(04-29-2021 09:48 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 09:09 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 07:11 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 06:21 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 05:25 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  I would think it would benefit you all greatly to play a local FBs team every single year (forgive me if this is what you currently do... I know you’ve played WVU recently). Someone close like us or Ohio, or Miami (OH), WKU, etc. Won’t that give you quality points in the polls even if it is a loss (and I’m not saying any would be)? Or has the system changed?

That’s basically what’s been happening. Last fall JMU was scheduled to play UNC before COVID cancelled the season. In recent years (before the most recent WVU) JMU played NCST and Maryland. VT hasn’t scheduled JMU since we beat them. The farthest out of the region FBS opponents were Akron and SMU, and a WVU game was played at FedEx stadium (JMU has played WVU three times in the last16 years). JMU could play Marshall but your $$$ probably isn’t enough to interest our AD.

I dunno. I can’t imagine Akron would pay more than we would. Plus, it would be a game that I feel would generate a bunch of interest and I’d bet you all would bring a slew of fans.

My thinking is that if there ever is to be a realignment, I would get familiar with the territory so to speak and develop relationships with potential future conference opponents so that when a spot does open up, the whole East division (whether it’s the SBC or CUSA or whomever) says, “JMU? Yeah, we’re familiar with them. They’d be a good add.” Perhaps I’m off base with that as I don’t pretend to know how your admin thinks...

You think Marshall would pay JMU $400,000 (or more)? I I seriously doubt it.

And yes, you’re off-base. Beating VT, SMU and being competitive against P5 teams like WVU and Maryland does more for JMU’s athletic budget and national profile then playing regional G5 programs.

That was eleven years ago (VT), SMU was six years ago. You can’t hang your hat on that anymore. And yes, you played WVU close, but what FBS people (and WVU fans and the media/national perspective) think is, “Meh, it was the first game of the year. They’ll get the kinks worked out.”

Fine, you can play all the P5 teams you want and even be competitive... and reap a huge payday...but if you don’t beat them what good does that do you in the CAA? You have a HUUUGE castle in a sandbox.

If you want the money, then great... go get it. It’s there. You will always find someone to pay you an exorbitant amount of money...but they aren’t your peers. That’s all I’m saying.

I do understand your side and please don’t think I am criticizing JMU in any way. Hell, I would like to share a conference with you all. That’s just my opinion on how to get there.

But hey, if either of us were any good at making this happen, we wouldn’t be here on a message board.. lol

Peace man. No ill will intended at all. I have respect for JMU.

Well we also beat soundly ECU around 3 years ago, so it fits both your regional G5 and a more recent FBS win.

(04-29-2021 09:48 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 09:09 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 07:11 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 06:21 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 05:25 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  I would think it would benefit you all greatly to play a local FBs team every single year (forgive me if this is what you currently do... I know you’ve played WVU recently). Someone close like us or Ohio, or Miami (OH), WKU, etc. Won’t that give you quality points in the polls even if it is a loss (and I’m not saying any would be)? Or has the system changed?

That’s basically what’s been happening. Last fall JMU was scheduled to play UNC before COVID cancelled the season. In recent years (before the most recent WVU) JMU played NCST and Maryland. VT hasn’t scheduled JMU since we beat them. The farthest out of the region FBS opponents were Akron and SMU, and a WVU game was played at FedEx stadium (JMU has played WVU three times in the last16 years). JMU could play Marshall but your $$$ probably isn’t enough to interest our AD.

I dunno. I can’t imagine Akron would pay more than we would. Plus, it would be a game that I feel would generate a bunch of interest and I’d bet you all would bring a slew of fans.

My thinking is that if there ever is to be a realignment, I would get familiar with the territory so to speak and develop relationships with potential future conference opponents so that when a spot does open up, the whole East division (whether it’s the SBC or CUSA or whomever) says, “JMU? Yeah, we’re familiar with them. They’d be a good add.” Perhaps I’m off base with that as I don’t pretend to know how your admin thinks...

You think Marshall would pay JMU $400,000 (or more)? I I seriously doubt it.

And yes, you’re off-base. Beating VT, SMU and being competitive against P5 teams like WVU and Maryland does more for JMU’s athletic budget and national profile then playing regional G5 programs.

That was eleven years ago (VT), SMU was six years ago. You can’t hang your hat on that anymore. And yes, you played WVU close, but what FBS people (and WVU fans and the media/national perspective) think is, “Meh, it was the first game of the year. They’ll get the kinks worked out.”

Fine, you can play all the P5 teams you want and even be competitive... and reap a huge payday...but if you don’t beat them what good does that do you in the CAA? You have a HUUUGE castle in a sandbox.

If you want the money, then great... go get it. It’s there. You will always find someone to pay you an exorbitant amount of money...but they aren’t your peers. That’s all I’m saying.

I do understand your side and please don’t think I am criticizing JMU in any way. Hell, I would like to share a conference with you all. That’s just my opinion on how to get there.

But hey, if either of us were any good at making this happen, we wouldn’t be here on a message board.. lol

Peace man. No ill will intended at all. I have respect for JMU.

All true, the fact remains JMU finds getting a FBS game very difficult to schedule. Not saying they are skeerd, but they won’t schedule us.

(04-29-2021 05:25 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  I would think it would benefit you all greatly to play a local FBs team every single year (forgive me if this is what you currently do... I know you’ve played WVU recently). Someone close like us or Ohio, or Miami (OH), WKU, etc. Won’t that give you quality points in the polls even if it is a loss (and I’m not saying any would be)? Or has the system changed?

What novel concept. Has never been suggested on here before.

(04-29-2021 04:41 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 04:00 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Out of the blue bump here, as I know there's also talk of @ Weber on 9/18 travel plans on the 2021-2028 schedule thread. I know this is close to 5 months away, but for those who plan on going, HEADS UP, get ready for rental car sticker shock. I just heard about this a couple of days ago, so I looked at rental car prices for 12 days out west in Sept (Tues, 9/7-Sunday, 9/19) and was like WTF? Prices are basically tripled.. INSANE. Examples:

SUVs (small-mid size):
-ACE: $90+ a day (I believe off airport, won't work for my late flight).
-"Surprise Agency" (ie Priceline) $100+ a day.
-Name brand rental car company: $150-$225 a day (For 12 days I saw $1,800+ to $2,700+).

Compacts/subcompacts:
-"Surprise Agency" (ie Priceline) About $90 a day.
-Name brand rental car company: About $130 a day.

Was using Kayak. Obviously with different dates, different number of days, different search engines, might come up with different results. Just be prepared to pay WAY more than usual. This explains it.
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/n...72284.html
Going to wait a couple months, hoping prices come down.

Yep, COVID forced a mass rental car liquidation.

Try Turo...never tried it, but have heard good things.

Yeah I saw that. Its ‘different’ that’s for sure.

(04-29-2021 09:48 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 09:09 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 07:11 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 06:21 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 05:25 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  I would think it would benefit you all greatly to play a local FBs team every single year (forgive me if this is what you currently do... I know you’ve played WVU recently). Someone close like us or Ohio, or Miami (OH), WKU, etc. Won’t that give you quality points in the polls even if it is a loss (and I’m not saying any would be)? Or has the system changed?

That’s basically what’s been happening. Last fall JMU was scheduled to play UNC before COVID cancelled the season. In recent years (before the most recent WVU) JMU played NCST and Maryland. VT hasn’t scheduled JMU since we beat them. The farthest out of the region FBS opponents were Akron and SMU, and a WVU game was played at FedEx stadium (JMU has played WVU three times in the last16 years). JMU could play Marshall but your $$$ probably isn’t enough to interest our AD.

I dunno. I can’t imagine Akron would pay more than we would. Plus, it would be a game that I feel would generate a bunch of interest and I’d bet you all would bring a slew of fans.

My thinking is that if there ever is to be a realignment, I would get familiar with the territory so to speak and develop relationships with potential future conference opponents so that when a spot does open up, the whole East division (whether it’s the SBC or CUSA or whomever) says, “JMU? Yeah, we’re familiar with them. They’d be a good add.” Perhaps I’m off base with that as I don’t pretend to know how your admin thinks...

You think Marshall would pay JMU $400,000 (or more)? I I seriously doubt it.

And yes, you’re off-base. Beating VT, SMU and being competitive against P5 teams like WVU and Maryland does more for JMU’s athletic budget and national profile then playing regional G5 programs.

That was eleven years ago (VT), SMU was six years ago. You can’t hang your hat on that anymore. And yes, you played WVU close, but what FBS people (and WVU fans and the media/national perspective) think is, “Meh, it was the first game of the year. They’ll get the kinks worked out.”

Fine, you can play all the P5 teams you want and even be competitive... and reap a huge payday...but if you don’t beat them what good does that do you in the CAA? You have a HUUUGE castle in a sandbox.

If you want the money, then great... go get it. It’s there. You will always find someone to pay you an exorbitant amount of money...but they aren’t your peers. That’s all I’m saying.

I do understand your side and please don’t think I am criticizing JMU in any way. Hell, I would like to share a conference with you all. That’s just my opinion on how to get there.

But hey, if either of us were any good at making this happen, we wouldn’t be here on a message board.. lol

Peace man. No ill will intended at all. I have respect for JMU.

You’re looking through the wrong end of the telescope. JMU fans don’t necessarily care what P5 fans think of JMU. The point of playing P5s is that JMU fans enjoy our teams playing and competing against the P5s and the money they provide our athletic department. Beating them is a bonus and becomes part of JMU’s heritage and legacy.

By the way, how many times has Marshall played WVU in the last 16 years? Have any of those games been at your home stadium? Just curious. Has Marshall ever hosted a ESPN Game Day? I really don’t know.

If there is a future opportunity that develops where Marshall and JMU are in the same FB conference at some point in time nothing would make most JMU fans happier, including me. Especially if ODU is part of the same conference. All good possibilities to look forward to. In the meantime if Marshall had the $$$ to buy a home FB game against JMU I’m sure we would find the teams scheduled.

(04-29-2021 10:45 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 09:48 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 09:09 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 07:11 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 06:21 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  That’s basically what’s been happening. Last fall JMU was scheduled to play UNC before COVID cancelled the season. In recent years (before the most recent WVU) JMU played NCST and Maryland. VT hasn’t scheduled JMU since we beat them. The farthest out of the region FBS opponents were Akron and SMU, and a WVU game was played at FedEx stadium (JMU has played WVU three times in the last16 years). JMU could play Marshall but your $$$ probably isn’t enough to interest our AD.

I dunno. I can’t imagine Akron would pay more than we would. Plus, it would be a game that I feel would generate a bunch of interest and I’d bet you all would bring a slew of fans.

My thinking is that if there ever is to be a realignment, I would get familiar with the territory so to speak and develop relationships with potential future conference opponents so that when a spot does open up, the whole East division (whether it’s the SBC or CUSA or whomever) says, “JMU? Yeah, we’re familiar with them. They’d be a good add.” Perhaps I’m off base with that as I don’t pretend to know how your admin thinks...

You think Marshall would pay JMU $400,000 (or more)? I I seriously doubt it.

And yes, you’re off-base. Beating VT, SMU and being competitive against P5 teams like WVU and Maryland does more for JMU’s athletic budget and national profile then playing regional G5 programs.

That was eleven years ago (VT), SMU was six years ago. You can’t hang your hat on that anymore. And yes, you played WVU close, but what FBS people (and WVU fans and the media/national perspective) think is, “Meh, it was the first game of the year. They’ll get the kinks worked out.”

Fine, you can play all the P5 teams you want and even be competitive... and reap a huge payday...but if you don’t beat them what good does that do you in the CAA? You have a HUUUGE castle in a sandbox.

If you want the money, then great... go get it. It’s there. You will always find someone to pay you an exorbitant amount of money...but they aren’t your peers. That’s all I’m saying.

I do understand your side and please don’t think I am criticizing JMU in any way. Hell, I would like to share a conference with you all. That’s just my opinion on how to get there.

But hey, if either of us were any good at making this happen, we wouldn’t be here on a message board.. lol

Peace man. No ill will intended at all. I have respect for JMU.

You’re looking through the wrong end of the telescope. JMU fans don’t necessarily care what P5 fans think of JMU. The point of playing P5s is that JMU fans enjoy our teams playing and competing against the P5s and the money they provide our athletic department. Beating them is a bonus and becomes part of JMU’s heritage and legacy.

By the way, how many times has Marshall played WVU in the last 16 years? Have any of those games been at your home stadium? Just curious. Has Marshall ever hosted a ESPN Game Day? I really don’t know.

If there is a future opportunity that develops where Marshall and JMU are in the same FB conference at some point in time nothing would make most JMU fans happier, including me. Especially if ODU is part of the same conference. All good possibilities to look forward to. In the meantime if Marshall had the $$$ to buy a home FB game against JMU I’m sure we would find the teams scheduled.

And all I’m saying is that if you are content with a big paycheck, playing an occasional FBS team you beat and then playing in a conference most of you hate being in, then awesome. You’re farting through silk.

I think it’s great you had a Gameday. We don’t care about WVU, so that is a moot point. We have our history as you do. Your budget is nearly twice ours with many fewer scholarships. Why are you still in the CAA? I’m not making this a Marshall/JMU pissing match. I’m impugning your admin for sitting on their hands when you could be competing with schools more aligned with your position.

But to answer your question, in the time frame you have referenced (2010), we have had WVU, Kansas State, Purdue, #5 Louisville, a ranked Cincinnati, NC State, and a ranked Appalachian State in our back yard. If not for COVID, we’d have had Boise and Pitt at home. You have to go on the road for ALL of those if you were to play them...

The question seems to be which you rather? A big paycheck? Or having those teams roll into Harrisonburg? Stay in your hotels, eat at your restaurants? Fill the stadium until its sides split?

Hell, I’d be your biggest cheerleader for getting into CUSA. And, We play Navy and have ECU at home this year and go to Notre Dame soon.

In our heyday, we had Corso in the press box against Toledo and Lou Holtz did one of our games prime time. Times evolve. When we were 1-AA, the money wasn’t there for ESPN to spend a ton of money on 1AA. I’m glad it has changed. The best FCS teams should get exposure, but it was an afterthought tv wise then. You all deserve the accolades you get.

All I’m saying is that I hope you all can find a way to move up because you’ll get much farther beating FBs teams weekly than an occasional one (or being competitive with them) one or two games a year. I don’t think you really disagree with that, do you?

Again, I am for you guys...please don’t take anything I said as a slight.

(04-29-2021 11:21 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 10:45 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 09:48 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 09:09 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(04-29-2021 07:11 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  I dunno. I can’t imagine Akron would pay more than we would. Plus, it would be a game that I feel would generate a bunch of interest and I’d bet you all would bring a slew of fans.

My thinking is that if there ever is to be a realignment, I would get familiar with the territory so to speak and develop relationships with potential future conference opponents so that when a spot does open up, the whole East division (whether it’s the SBC or CUSA or whomever) says, “JMU? Yeah, we’re familiar with them. They’d be a good add.” Perhaps I’m off base with that as I don’t pretend to know how your admin thinks...

You think Marshall would pay JMU $400,000 (or more)? I I seriously doubt it.

And yes, you’re off-base. Beating VT, SMU and being competitive against P5 teams like WVU and Maryland does more for JMU’s athletic budget and national profile then playing regional G5 programs.

That was eleven years ago (VT), SMU was six years ago. You can’t hang your hat on that anymore. And yes, you played WVU close, but what FBS people (and WVU fans and the media/national perspective) think is, “Meh, it was the first game of the year. They’ll get the kinks worked out.”

Fine, you can play all the P5 teams you want and even be competitive... and reap a huge payday...but if you don’t beat them what good does that do you in the CAA? You have a HUUUGE castle in a sandbox.

If you want the money, then great... go get it. It’s there. You will always find someone to pay you an exorbitant amount of money...but they aren’t your peers. That’s all I’m saying.

I do understand your side and please don’t think I am criticizing JMU in any way. Hell, I would like to share a conference with you all. That’s just my opinion on how to get there.

But hey, if either of us were any good at making this happen, we wouldn’t be here on a message board.. lol

Peace man. No ill will intended at all. I have respect for JMU.

You’re looking through the wrong end of the telescope. JMU fans don’t necessarily care what P5 fans think of JMU. The point of playing P5s is that JMU fans enjoy our teams playing and competing against the P5s and the money they provide our athletic department. Beating them is a bonus and becomes part of JMU’s heritage and legacy.

By the way, how many times has Marshall played WVU in the last 16 years? Have any of those games been at your home stadium? Just curious. Has Marshall ever hosted a ESPN Game Day? I really don’t know.

If there is a future opportunity that develops where Marshall and JMU are in the same FB conference at some point in time nothing would make most JMU fans happier, including me. Especially if ODU is part of the same conference. All good possibilities to look forward to. In the meantime if Marshall had the $$$ to buy a home FB game against JMU I’m sure we would find the teams scheduled.

And all I’m saying is that if you are content with a big paycheck, playing an occasional FBS team you beat and then playing in a conference most of you hate being in, then awesome. You’re farting through silk.

I think it’s great you had a Gameday. We don’t care about WVU, so that is a moot point. We have our history as you do. Your budget is nearly twice ours with many fewer scholarships. Why are you still in the CAA? I’m not making this a Marshall/JMU pissing match. I’m impugning your admin for sitting on their hands when you could be competing with schools more aligned with your position.

But to answer your question, in the time frame you have referenced (2010), we have had WVU, Kansas State, Purdue, #5 Louisville, a ranked Cincinnati, NC State, and a ranked Appalachian State in our back yard. If not for COVID, we’d have had Boise and Pitt at home. You have to go on the road for ALL of those if you were to play them...

The question seems to be which you rather? A big paycheck? Or having those teams roll into Harrisonburg? Stay in your hotels, eat at your restaurants? Fill the stadium until its sides split?

Hell, I’d be your biggest cheerleader for getting into CUSA. And, We play Navy and have ECU at home this year and go to Notre Dame soon.

In our heyday, we had Corso in the press box against Toledo and Lou Holtz did one of our games prime time. Times evolve. When we were 1-AA, the money wasn’t there for ESPN to spend a ton of money on 1AA. I’m glad it has changed. The best FCS teams should get exposure, but it was an afterthought tv wise then. You all deserve the accolades you get.

All I’m saying is that I hope you all can find a way to move up because you’ll get much farther beating FBs teams weekly than an occasional one (or being competitive with them) one or two games a year. I don’t think you really disagree with that, do you?

Again, I am for you guys...please don’t take anything I said as a slight.

Sure thing.

Write back when there’s an opening in CUSA offered to JMU. Write back when CUSA starts receiving more TV money...enough that CUSA will share with JMU to cover at least part of the estimated $5 million necessary to pay for JMU’s extra FBS scholarships, FB COA, higher coaching salaries and travel. Write back when CUSA bowl tie-ins can promise more than the opportunity to play another G5. Write back when CUSA regularly earns more than one MBB invite to the NCAAT. Write back when CUSA Olympic sports perform better than the opportunities presently available in the CAA.

Write back when Marshall offers JMU enough money to play in your stadium, instead of Morgantown. That would be a fun game.

You see, JMU sees it’s varsity athletic program holistically. It’s not only about FB, or MBB for that matter., at JMU.

Eventually, as I shared my thoughts earlier, being in the same conference with Marshall (and ODU) would be fantastic. It just makes too much sense...both from a competitive perspective and from one where travel costs are contained. I do think it will happen. When? Who knows.

I fully understand the frustration and impatience. Something has to happen. The G5’s are bleeding money, and FCS teams will start dropping like flies. Perhaps the pandemic induced squeeze on budgets and/or upcoming media negotiations will provide the push needed to bring about the change. Until then I don’t see JMU moving,