Bingo. Stadium expansion, Mulit-Event Center and Hotel being built soon… FBS is happening.

Since this is a WAC board, what’s the contingency plan if NMSU, Sam and Tarleton jump ship?

Here is my initial thought-
Shore up WAC FCS football by Inviting D2 move up WTAMU to join as an all sports member.
Go after UTA and UALR as non fb members to reclaim a bit of lost ground in basketball.

(10-23-2021 09:07 AM)OscarWildeCat Wrote:  Since this is a WAC board, what’s the contingency plan if NMSU, Sam and Tarleton jump ship?

Here is my initial thought-
Shore up WAC FCS football by Inviting D2 move up WTAMU to join as an all sports member.
Go after UTA and UALR as non fb members to reclaim a bit of lost ground in basketball.

Yeah sucks, kind of out of left field. Might have to take UIW or McNeese State because you have to. Can’t imagine Southern Utah is pleased right now. Nor SFA, ACU, and Lamar. Basketball takes a shot and that’s because without NMSU, there’s an even larger gap between GCU and the Texas schools.

(10-23-2021 01:48 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 09:07 AM)OscarWildeCat Wrote:  Since this is a WAC board, what’s the contingency plan if NMSU, Sam and Tarleton jump ship?

Here is my initial thought-
Shore up WAC FCS football by Inviting D2 move up WTAMU to join as an all sports member.
Go after UTA and UALR as non fb members to reclaim a bit of lost ground in basketball.

Yeah sucks, kind of out of left field. Might have to take UIW or McNeese State because you have to. Can’t imagine Southern Utah is pleased right now. Nor SFA, ACU, and Lamar. Basketball takes a shot and that’s because without NMSU, there’s an even larger gap between GCU and the Texas schools.

Yeah, you have to wonder what discussions are being had. IF this comes to pass, is it because the others decided that their FBS studies were not favorable?

(10-23-2021 02:25 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 01:48 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 09:07 AM)OscarWildeCat Wrote:  Since this is a WAC board, what’s the contingency plan if NMSU, Sam and Tarleton jump ship?

Here is my initial thought-
Shore up WAC FCS football by Inviting D2 move up WTAMU to join as an all sports member.
Go after UTA and UALR as non fb members to reclaim a bit of lost ground in basketball.

Yeah sucks, kind of out of left field. Might have to take UIW or McNeese State because you have to. Can’t imagine Southern Utah is pleased right now. Nor SFA, ACU, and Lamar. Basketball takes a shot and that’s because without NMSU, there’s an even larger gap between GCU and the Texas schools.

Yeah, you have to wonder what discussions are being had. IF this comes to pass, is it because the others decided that their FBS studies were not favorable?

Or are too far in the future.

(10-23-2021 02:32 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 02:25 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 01:48 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 09:07 AM)OscarWildeCat Wrote:  Since this is a WAC board, what’s the contingency plan if NMSU, Sam and Tarleton jump ship?

Here is my initial thought-
Shore up WAC FCS football by Inviting D2 move up WTAMU to join as an all sports member.
Go after UTA and UALR as non fb members to reclaim a bit of lost ground in basketball.

Yeah sucks, kind of out of left field. Might have to take UIW or McNeese State because you have to. Can’t imagine Southern Utah is pleased right now. Nor SFA, ACU, and Lamar. Basketball takes a shot and that’s because without NMSU, there’s an even larger gap between GCU and the Texas schools.

Yeah, you have to wonder what discussions are being had. IF this comes to pass, is it because the others decided that their FBS studies were not favorable?

Or are too far in the future.

Very true. Tarleton fans on this site have been calling this shot since the beginning. I assumed we had more time to actually complete our D1 transition and get the pieces in place (stadium expansion, arena, donors). However you have to strike when the iron is hot

(10-23-2021 02:40 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 02:32 PM)TexanFan Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 02:25 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 01:48 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 09:07 AM)OscarWildeCat Wrote:  Since this is a WAC board, what’s the contingency plan if NMSU, Sam and Tarleton jump ship?

Here is my initial thought-
Shore up WAC FCS football by Inviting D2 move up WTAMU to join as an all sports member.
Go after UTA and UALR as non fb members to reclaim a bit of lost ground in basketball.

Yeah sucks, kind of out of left field. Might have to take UIW or McNeese State because you have to. Can’t imagine Southern Utah is pleased right now. Nor SFA, ACU, and Lamar. Basketball takes a shot and that’s because without NMSU, there’s an even larger gap between GCU and the Texas schools.

Yeah, you have to wonder what discussions are being had. IF this comes to pass, is it because the others decided that their FBS studies were not favorable?

Or are too far in the future.

Very true. Tarleton fans on this site have been calling this shot since the beginning. I assumed we had more time to actually complete our D1 transition and get the pieces in place (stadium expansion, arena, donors). However you have to strike when the iron is hot

I believe it was one Tarleton fan who offered no real timetable or how it would come to fruition. It definitely wasn’t 9 teams leaving CUSA in a week and apparently deciding to focus around Texas for some replacements. Even delusional fans could have never predicted this. I guess Tarleton believes it’s better to go now than wait.

I don’t think anyone has actually done a study. Articles said everyone was going to do a joint one when SUU joined.

Realistically believe the ball is in the Sun Belt Conference’s hand. They need to do what they intend to do which comes this week (apparently) and then whatever is a afoot with the Conference USA and/or Mid American situations will be quick to work themselves out

(10-23-2021 08:14 AM)wisdomgymrat Wrote:  Bingo. Stadium expansion, Mulit-Event Center and Hotel being built soon… FBS is happening.

I agree with your overall take but at a quick glance its kinda hilarious that one would be like "y'all we're getting a hotel! FBS is imminent now!"

(10-23-2021 03:45 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 08:14 AM)wisdomgymrat Wrote:  Bingo. Stadium expansion, Mulit-Event Center and Hotel being built soon… FBS is happening.

I agree with your overall take but at a quick glance its kinda hilarious that one would be like "y'all we're getting a hotel! FBS is imminent now!"

Lol I gotta admit when I saw that I thought Tarleton fans were playing monopoly.

(10-23-2021 03:18 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 03:05 AM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 03:00 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 02:33 AM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:  This is very telling actually. With Tarleton's desire to go FBS, I think they will go to C-USA if the opportunity arises rather than waiting and hoping that the WAC goes FBS in the future. I do not think the UTAH schools have the desire or potential for FBS and the other Texas schools seem to want FCS more. The eastern teams in C=USA can go to the MAC or independent and C-USA can build a true Middle America type conference. IF Tarleton along with SHSU and McNeese join think about this footprint.

Tarleton
SHSU
UTEP
NMSU
LA TECH
MCNESSE

Lose Directional hillibillly Community Colleges of MTSU & WKU and add in the 4 Dakotas along with Montana and Idaho. A beautiful 12 team N-S league with TV Appeal.

Hillbilly community colleges? Okay. Meanwhile, on every other sports forum outside of this one, and in sports media broadcasting circles, beatwriters, journalists, and news anchors across the country are trying to figure out what in the hell is a Tarleton State and where exactly is it?

Google acceptance rate for Tarleton, WKU and MTSU... you are nothing more than a glorified communtiy college. You have a 97% acceptance rate, that = community college. Forest Gump could get into WKU and MTSU. How in the hell do you think the MAC would want you I do not know, but I hope they do take you because we do not want you!

First off, neither of those schools are "mine."

Secondly, the acceptance rate is irrelevant to brand in this case.

More people actually know those schools because they've beaten nationally-ranked Michigan State in the NCAA Tournament. They have beaten schools like Georgia Tech in football, who would make Tarleton look like Cumberland College.

I'd say if Judy thinks the little podunk school from Stephensomewhere, TX is so valuable, then she can take you guys and UTEP, and all the REAL 1-A schools east of Texas will continue in FBS without that that glorified 1-AA conference posturing as an FBS league.

Although, I'd much rather the league keep UTEP and add actual 1-A teams like New Mexico State that can add value to Conference USA.

I guess your clueless as to how bad Tarleton trounced NMSU in football. You are probably as clueless as to what Tarleton is building in Ft Worth.

(10-23-2021 02:33 AM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:  This is very telling actually. With Tarleton's desire to go FBS, I think they will go to C-USA if the opportunity arises rather than waiting and hoping that the WAC goes FBS in the future. I do not think the UTAH schools have the desire or potential for FBS and the other Texas schools seem to want FCS more. The eastern teams in C=USA can go to the MAC or independent and C-USA can build a true Middle America type conference. IF Tarleton along with SHSU and McNeese join think about this footprint.

Tarleton
SHSU
UTEP
NMSU
LA TECH
MCNESSE

Lose Directional hillibillly Community Colleges of MTSU & WKU and add in the 4 Dakotas along with Montana and Idaho. A beautiful 12 team N-S league with TV Appeal.

Wow...I came over here to introduce myself and see what the Tarleton Texans were like and I read this. It's a sports message board and smack is expected but I'm not sure the bolded part above is the approach I'd take to introduce myself to potential new conference mates if I were interested in moving to their conference. First impressions are everything.

Regardless, no....WKU is not a community college. Yes, we have the same minimum requirements for admittance that Tarleton does (ACT minimum is the same). Our admittance rate is higher because in Kentucky, if a Kentucky resident meets the minimum requirements for a public university, they are accepted. Obviously, WKU isn't in a major metro area so we don't get the volume of applicants you may, given your location near the Dallas/Ft Worth metro. WKU has several national ranked academic programs.....Photo Jounalism, Forensics, Business, etc. OK...I'm not going to go down the long list of academic accolades and prestigious accomplishments but I did feel the need to defend my school.

Also, hillbillies is a misnomer...or at least it doesn't completley apply to WKU. Bowling Green, Kentucky is a generally flat topographic area with some gently rolling hills. In fact, the city of Bowling Green has one big hill and that's where the University is located. It's a beautiful campus that's visible from great distance because the hill rises above the horizon. We're called the Hilltoppers because the residents of the city back in the early 1900's referred to the students who lived on the hilltop as Hilltoppers. The stereotype of hillbillies generally refers to people in the Appalachian area of eastern Kentucky. Bowling Green isn't in Appalachia.

There's your history and geography lesson for the day...

Now, as far as Tarleton's interest in CUSA, I did some research earlier today because I'd never heard of your university before it was mentioned yesterday in media releases. I was impressed with your history of athletic success at the D2 level, your stadium expansion and what appears to be a strong desire to move up and succeed. Ya'll may be a great candidate. Of course, I'm just an anonymous message board poster and don't make those decisions.

WKU has a long history of success in basketball and football and are always eager to compete with like minded schools. Hopefully ya'll are the same.

(10-23-2021 09:03 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 02:33 AM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:  This is very telling actually. With Tarleton's desire to go FBS, I think they will go to C-USA if the opportunity arises rather than waiting and hoping that the WAC goes FBS in the future. I do not think the UTAH schools have the desire or potential for FBS and the other Texas schools seem to want FCS more. The eastern teams in C=USA can go to the MAC or independent and C-USA can build a true Middle America type conference. IF Tarleton along with SHSU and McNeese join think about this footprint.

Tarleton
SHSU
UTEP
NMSU
LA TECH
MCNESSE

Lose Directional hillibillly Community Colleges of MTSU & WKU and add in the 4 Dakotas along with Montana and Idaho. A beautiful 12 team N-S league with TV Appeal.

Wow...I came over here to introduce myself and see what the Tarleton Texans were like and I read this. It's a sports message board and smack is expected but I'm not sure the bolded part above is the approach I'd take to introduce myself to potential new conference mates if I were interested in moving to their conference. First impressions are everything.

Regardless, no....WKU is not a community college. Yes, we have the same minimum requirements for admittance that Tarleton does (ACT minimum is the same). Our admittance rate is higher because in Kentucky, if a Kentucky resident meets the minimum requirements for a public university, they are accepted. Obviously, WKU isn't in a major metro area so we don't get the volume of applicants you may, given your location near the Dallas/Ft Worth metro. WKU has several national ranked academic programs.....Photo Jounalism, Forensics, Business, etc. OK...I'm not going to go down the long list of academic accolades and prestigious accomplishments but I did feel the need to defend my school.

Also, hillbillies is a misnomer...or at least it doesn't completley apply to WKU. Bowling Green, Kentucky is a generally flat topographic area with some gently rolling hills. In fact, the city of Bowling Green has one big hill and that's where the University is located. It's a beautiful campus that's visible from great distance because the hill rises above the horizon. We're called the Hilltoppers because the residents of the city back in the early 1900's referred to the students who lived on the hilltop as Hilltoppers. The stereotype of hillbillies generally refers to people in the Appalachian area of eastern Kentucky. Bowling Green isn't in Appalachia.

There's your history and geography lesson for the day...

Now, as far as Tarleton's interest in CUSA, I did some research earlier today because I'd never heard of your university before it was mentioned yesterday in media releases. I was impressed with your history of athletic success at the D2 level, your stadium expansion and what appears to be a strong desire to move up and succeed. Ya'll may be a great candidate. Of course, I'm just an anonymous message board poster and don't make those decisions.

WKU has a long history of success in basketball and football and are always eager to compete with like minded schools. Hopefully ya'll are the same.

If it makes you feel any better its really ironic a Tarleton fan would call another school "hillbilly". I have a bunch of cousins that went there and we're redneck af. To put if bluntly it's quite a bit hypocritical of them to call anyone a hillbilly, but thats what makes Stephenville fun tbh.

(10-23-2021 09:20 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  If it makes you feel any better its really ironic a Tarleton fan would call another school "hillbilly". I have a bunch of cousins that went there and we're redneck af. To put if bluntly it's quite a bit hypocritical of them to call anyone a hillbilly, but thats what makes Stephenville fun tbh.

Haha...see, now if he'd called us a bunch of rednecks, I wouldn't have an issue. We have plenty of those too...Heck, my family roots are as red as they get.

(10-23-2021 09:03 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 02:33 AM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:  This is very telling actually. With Tarleton's desire to go FBS, I think they will go to C-USA if the opportunity arises rather than waiting and hoping that the WAC goes FBS in the future. I do not think the UTAH schools have the desire or potential for FBS and the other Texas schools seem to want FCS more. The eastern teams in C=USA can go to the MAC or independent and C-USA can build a true Middle America type conference. IF Tarleton along with SHSU and McNeese join think about this footprint.

Tarleton
SHSU
UTEP
NMSU
LA TECH
MCNESSE

Lose Directional hillibillly Community Colleges of MTSU & WKU and add in the 4 Dakotas along with Montana and Idaho. A beautiful 12 team N-S league with TV Appeal.

Wow...I came over here to introduce myself and see what the Tarleton Texans were like and I read this. It's a sports message board and smack is expected but I'm not sure the bolded part above is the approach I'd take to introduce myself to potential new conference mates if I were interested in moving to their conference. First impressions are everything.

Regardless, no....WKU is not a community college. Yes, we have the same minimum requirements for admittance that Tarleton does (ACT minimum is the same). Our admittance rate is higher because in Kentucky, if a Kentucky resident meets the minimum requirements for a public university, they are accepted. Obviously, WKU isn't in a major metro area so we don't get the volume of applicants you may, given your location near the Dallas/Ft Worth metro. WKU has several national ranked academic programs.....Photo Jounalism, Forensics, Business, etc. OK...I'm not going to go down the long list of academic accolades and prestigious accomplishments but I did feel the need to defend my school.

Also, hillbillies is a misnomer...or at least it doesn't completley apply to WKU. Bowling Green, Kentucky is a generally flat topographic area with some gently rolling hills. In fact, the city of Bowling Green has one big hill and that's where the University is located. It's a beautiful campus that's visible from great distance because the hill rises above the horizon. We're called the Hilltoppers because the residents of the city back in the early 1900's referred to the students who lived on the hilltop as Hilltoppers. The stereotype of hillbillies generally refers to people in the Appalachian area of eastern Kentucky. Bowling Green isn't in Appalachia.

There's your history and geography lesson for the day...

Now, as far as Tarleton's interest in CUSA, I did some research earlier today because I'd never heard of your university before it was mentioned yesterday in media releases. I was impressed with your history of athletic success at the D2 level, your stadium expansion and what appears to be a strong desire to move up and succeed. Ya'll may be a great candidate. Of course, I'm just an anonymous message board poster and don't make those decisions.

WKU has a long history of success in basketball and football and are always eager to compete with like minded schools. Hopefully ya'll are the same.

Ok now that I know the name history I have one question. What on earth is your mascot trying to be?

(10-23-2021 09:29 PM)Vulpes88 Wrote:  Ok now that I know the name history I have one question. What on earth is your mascot trying to be?

A very common question. He's not a Hilltopper. He's just Big Red. He was created in the late 1970's by a student who wanted to create a mascot for the school. We really never had a mascot before that. There were some attempts at mascots throughout the decades but nothing ever caught on until Big Red came along. Obviously the fans always shouted...Go Big Red (our school color) during games so this student decided to make some kind of lovable, unique mascot to represent Big Red. He became an instant success...so much so that he won the national mascot award several times in the 80's and since. He's been on ESPN commercials numerous times. He's extremely popular with children.

(10-23-2021 09:27 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 09:20 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  If it makes you feel any better its really ironic a Tarleton fan would call another school "hillbilly". I have a bunch of cousins that went there and we're redneck af. To put if bluntly it's quite a bit hypocritical of them to call anyone a hillbilly, but thats what makes Stephenville fun tbh.

Haha...see, now if he'd called us a bunch of rednecks, I wouldn't have an issue. We have plenty of those too...Heck, my family roots are as red as they get.

Yeah I don't know where any TSU student or alum should be calling anyone countryfried when that along with the Purple Poo are what makes Tarleton what it is. H3ll, Agriculture use to be in the school's name. You have to overlook some of the more zealous types.

(10-23-2021 08:16 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 03:18 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 03:05 AM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 03:00 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 02:33 AM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:  This is very telling actually. With Tarleton's desire to go FBS, I think they will go to C-USA if the opportunity arises rather than waiting and hoping that the WAC goes FBS in the future. I do not think the UTAH schools have the desire or potential for FBS and the other Texas schools seem to want FCS more. The eastern teams in C=USA can go to the MAC or independent and C-USA can build a true Middle America type conference. IF Tarleton along with SHSU and McNeese join think about this footprint.

Tarleton
SHSU
UTEP
NMSU
LA TECH
MCNESSE

Lose Directional hillibillly Community Colleges of MTSU & WKU and add in the 4 Dakotas along with Montana and Idaho. A beautiful 12 team N-S league with TV Appeal.

Hillbilly community colleges? Okay. Meanwhile, on every other sports forum outside of this one, and in sports media broadcasting circles, beatwriters, journalists, and news anchors across the country are trying to figure out what in the hell is a Tarleton State and where exactly is it?

Google acceptance rate for Tarleton, WKU and MTSU... you are nothing more than a glorified communtiy college. You have a 97% acceptance rate, that = community college. Forest Gump could get into WKU and MTSU. How in the hell do you think the MAC would want you I do not know, but I hope they do take you because we do not want you!

First off, neither of those schools are "mine."

Secondly, the acceptance rate is irrelevant to brand in this case.

More people actually know those schools because they've beaten nationally-ranked Michigan State in the NCAA Tournament. They have beaten schools like Georgia Tech in football, who would make Tarleton look like Cumberland College.

I'd say if Judy thinks the little podunk school from Stephensomewhere, TX is so valuable, then she can take you guys and UTEP, and all the REAL 1-A schools east of Texas will continue in FBS without that that glorified 1-AA conference posturing as an FBS league.

Although, I'd much rather the league keep UTEP and add actual 1-A teams like New Mexico State that can add value to Conference USA.

I guess your clueless as to how bad Tarleton trounced NMSU in football. You are probably as clueless as to what Tarleton is building in Ft Worth.

I really don't care what a team that has played for conference championships did to a dilapidated program that hasn't a had a conference in years. It changes nothing. Also, Stephenville, Texas is not Fort Worth. Texas Christian is the only marketable program and brand in Fort Worth.

I don’t know why ACU isn’t interested in FBS.
I think they have a larger budget right?

(10-23-2021 10:45 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 08:16 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 03:18 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 03:05 AM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 03:00 AM)All4One Wrote:  Hillbilly community colleges? Okay. Meanwhile, on every other sports forum outside of this one, and in sports media broadcasting circles, beatwriters, journalists, and news anchors across the country are trying to figure out what in the hell is a Tarleton State and where exactly is it?

Google acceptance rate for Tarleton, WKU and MTSU... you are nothing more than a glorified communtiy college. You have a 97% acceptance rate, that = community college. Forest Gump could get into WKU and MTSU. How in the hell do you think the MAC would want you I do not know, but I hope they do take you because we do not want you!

First off, neither of those schools are "mine."

Secondly, the acceptance rate is irrelevant to brand in this case.

More people actually know those schools because they've beaten nationally-ranked Michigan State in the NCAA Tournament. They have beaten schools like Georgia Tech in football, who would make Tarleton look like Cumberland College.

I'd say if Judy thinks the little podunk school from Stephensomewhere, TX is so valuable, then she can take you guys and UTEP, and all the REAL 1-A schools east of Texas will continue in FBS without that that glorified 1-AA conference posturing as an FBS league.

Although, I'd much rather the league keep UTEP and add actual 1-A teams like New Mexico State that can add value to Conference USA.

I guess your clueless as to how bad Tarleton trounced NMSU in football. You are probably as clueless as to what Tarleton is building in Ft Worth.

I really don't care what a team that has played for conference championships did to a dilapidated program that hasn't a had a conference in years. It changes nothing. Also, Stephenville, Texas is not Fort Worth. Texas Christian is the only marketable program and brand in Fort Worth.

Not true. As more and more students choose Tarleton as a public school and more affordable over the more expensive private school TCU you will see. I think you are also clueless as to who is the driving force behind the emergence of Tarleton. You are also clueless about the PUF access that the school has access to. Tarrant County JC has one of the largest enrollments in the state over 50,000 that can easily transfer over to Tarleton after the first two years. Economics 101, or did you miss that class?