Shannon let it go and kick their butts. You get even when you blackball them when we expand.

Wanna talk about some whiny fans?

Good lord..........Southern Miss last year played 3 games within a 12 day time period. Do you hear about their athletic director sending nasty emails to certain schools?

UCF has 3 weekday games in a row, capped off by Pitt. If you think ESPN didn't arrange this schedule, then you're just an idiot.

UCF actually wanted this game to be a SATURDAY game but Pitt and ESPN wanted ESPN coverage.........hence the Friday time slot.

But I guess it's more convienient to ***** about someone else.

Wilkie01 Wrote:Shannon let it go and kick their butts. You get even when you blackball them when we expand.

Yes, we know how much pull message board fans have.

Pitt will have an "extra" day of rest for their following game vs Rutgers.

Should Rutgers cancel that game...because Pitt will have an advantage?

Also...Pitt will have 2 extra days of rest before their season finale vs Louisville.

Should Louisville cancel their game against Pitt since the Panthers will have TWO extra days of rest?


KL

Shannon Panther Wrote:Apparently the athletic directors course in ethics is required of all UCF students based on the responses here. Let's get a few things straight.

1. The game was originally scheduled for Saturday.

2. UCF and ESPN wanted to move it to Friday. This was for UCF's benefit, not Pitt's.

3 Pitt agreed with the understanding (verbal or written, either is legally binding) that they would switch the game as long as there was no competetive advantage gained by UCF by doing so. Both parties agreed to this.

4. CUSA and/or UCF violated this agreement by scheduling the UCF Marshall game for a Wednesday night prior to the Pitt game. Giving UCF more prep time and rest prior to the game.

5. Jeff Long, Pitt's AD is PO'd because UCF reniged on the agreement.

6. The issue isn't whether Pitt should be able to beat UCF at a competetive disadvantage, it is about UCF honoring it's commitments. and they are not
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What Long should tell UCF and ESPN is, either pick UCF Marshall and Pitt will play UCF on Saturday, or move UCF Marshall to Saturday and Pitt will play on Thursday. What he will probably do is negotiate an extra game to be televised this year and play the game on Thursday.

UCF is making a bad name for themselves around the BE. First they screwed WVU last year, and I give you it was completely legal contractually but it put WVU in a bad spot, and now this with Pitt. If the AD's can't operate on a gentlemen's agreement, there is no way UCF gets any consideration for expansion in 2010.
Spin it any way you want to UCF fans, this is a breach of contract and no matter how you want to perfume the pig, you have met the enemy, and it is you.

UCF and Knight Fans are not losing sleep over not being invited to the BE. You all chose UCF as a candidate for your rumored split/expansion. lmfao

KnightLight Wrote:Pitt will have an "extra" day of rest for their following game vs Rutgers.

Should Rutgers cancel that game...because Pitt will have an advantage?

Also...Pitt will have 2 extra days of rest before their season finale vs Louisville.

Should Louisville cancel their game against Pitt since the Panthers will have TWO extra days of rest?


KL

None of those games were moved under the agreement that neither team would gain a competetive advantage. Even if the game was played on Saturday, UCF would have an advantage. That isn't the point. The agreement was the game could be moved if neither side gained a competetive advantage. After that agreement, CUSA scheduled UCF's game against Marshall for Wednesday, giving UCF the competetive advantage they agreed they would not have.

Rationalize away, but if there wasn't an agreemeent between the schools prior to, this isn't an issue. Pitt should tell them we'll see you on Saturday and be done with it.

Wilkie01 Wrote:Shannon let it go and kick their butts. You get even when you blackball them when we expand.

If this were one game, I'd agree with you. It is the 1st game of a 3 game series with the next 2 to be played in Pittsburgh. One is next year. Since they bailed on WVU at the last minute last year, and given the integrity issues surrounding this agreement, why would we believe they will honor the rest of this contract. Next July they'll be sending Pitt a check to buy out the game so they can play a bodybag game against an SEC or Big 10 team. Then Pitt will be scrambling to fill that slot. I would prefer to walk away now and be done with it. We have no problem scheduling teams other than Penn State who's ducking us.

Magic Knight Wrote:

Shannon Panther Wrote:Apparently the athletic directors course in ethics is required of all UCF students based on the responses here. Let's get a few things straight.

1. The game was originally scheduled for Saturday.

2. UCF and ESPN wanted to move it to Friday. This was for UCF's benefit, not Pitt's.

3 Pitt agreed with the understanding (verbal or written, either is legally binding) that they would switch the game as long as there was no competetive advantage gained by UCF by doing so. Both parties agreed to this.

4. CUSA and/or UCF violated this agreement by scheduling the UCF Marshall game for a Wednesday night prior to the Pitt game. Giving UCF more prep time and rest prior to the game.

5. Jeff Long, Pitt's AD is PO'd because UCF reniged on the agreement.

6. The issue isn't whether Pitt should be able to beat UCF at a competetive disadvantage, it is about UCF honoring it's commitments. and they are not
.
What Long should tell UCF and ESPN is, either pick UCF Marshall and Pitt will play UCF on Saturday, or move UCF Marshall to Saturday and Pitt will play on Thursday. What he will probably do is negotiate an extra game to be televised this year and play the game on Thursday.

UCF is making a bad name for themselves around the BE. First they screwed WVU last year, and I give you it was completely legal contractually but it put WVU in a bad spot, and now this with Pitt. If the AD's can't operate on a gentlemen's agreement, there is no way UCF gets any consideration for expansion in 2010.
Spin it any way you want to UCF fans, this is a breach of contract and no matter how you want to perfume the pig, you have met the enemy, and it is you.

UCF and Knight Fans are not losing sleep over not being invited to the BE. You all chose UCF as a candidate for your rumored split/expansion. lmfao

Sour grapes. The ROI and ROA is much higher in the Big East than CUSA. I'm pretty sure UCF isn't spending all that money to be the best team in CUSA.

jeeze... TV rules the world of college football... everyone that pays attention knows that. UCF would rather have the game sat afternoon if tv wasnt involved... its better for attendence. When ESPN and CUSA says do U want a national game ... any school... esp a non bcs says yes we need the publicity... thus UCF said yes... it was willing to switch.. we couldnt force Pitt which was already going to have 2 days less practice to switch. ESPN and BE says to Pitt do u want to switch..(they could have just said no) without even thinking they say yes... than later they notice the percieved schedule probs.. and get upset.. If pitt with all their built in advantages cant beat UCF they dont deserve to win.

Shannon Panther Wrote:

Magic Knight Wrote:

Shannon Panther Wrote:Apparently the athletic directors course in ethics is required of all UCF students based on the responses here. Let's get a few things straight.

1. The game was originally scheduled for Saturday.

2. UCF and ESPN wanted to move it to Friday. This was for UCF's benefit, not Pitt's.

3 Pitt agreed with the understanding (verbal or written, either is legally binding) that they would switch the game as long as there was no competetive advantage gained by UCF by doing so. Both parties agreed to this.

4. CUSA and/or UCF violated this agreement by scheduling the UCF Marshall game for a Wednesday night prior to the Pitt game. Giving UCF more prep time and rest prior to the game.

5. Jeff Long, Pitt's AD is PO'd because UCF reniged on the agreement.

6. The issue isn't whether Pitt should be able to beat UCF at a competetive disadvantage, it is about UCF honoring it's commitments. and they are not
.
What Long should tell UCF and ESPN is, either pick UCF Marshall and Pitt will play UCF on Saturday, or move UCF Marshall to Saturday and Pitt will play on Thursday. What he will probably do is negotiate an extra game to be televised this year and play the game on Thursday.

UCF is making a bad name for themselves around the BE. First they screwed WVU last year, and I give you it was completely legal contractually but it put WVU in a bad spot, and now this with Pitt. If the AD's can't operate on a gentlemen's agreement, there is no way UCF gets any consideration for expansion in 2010.
Spin it any way you want to UCF fans, this is a breach of contract and no matter how you want to perfume the pig, you have met the enemy, and it is you.

UCF and Knight Fans are not losing sleep over not being invited to the BE. You all chose UCF as a candidate for your rumored split/expansion. lmfao

Sour grapes. The ROI and ROA is much higher in the Big East than CUSA. I'm pretty sure UCF isn't spending all that money to be the best team in CUSA.

Have not been in the PAC 10 hurt BYU financially? Everybody know that the BE is still in chaos after the ACC Raid. That is why the BE needs to destroy CUSA by planning another raid. In a few years both CUSA AND be will be equal in football. Therefore giving the BE critics more ammo to bash the BE. lmfao

Quote:Everybody know that the BE is still in chaos after the ACC Raid. That is why the BE needs to destroy CUSA by planning another raid. In a few years both CUSA AND be will be equal in football. Therefore giving the BE critics more ammo to bash the BE.

Until you have someone as good as Louisville and West Virginia-(2 BCS Title Contenders) then C-USA is not in the same class as the Big East.

And even if we are still in chaos we are still meeting the old and new BCS Standards.

In chaos? I think it stabilized last season, due in no small part to the huge win by WVU in the Sugar Bowl.

Big East football is going to be just fine.

To get a competitive advantage by 2 days? We already have one as you guys have wanstedt as your coach. He gave everyone else a competitive advantage in the NFL and now has moved onto ruining a college team too.

I have an idea, how about we come out in some OHIO U uniforms. I bet that would give us a competitive advantage too.

Knights_of_UCF Wrote:To get a competitive advantage by 2 days? We already have one as you guys have wanstedt as your coach. He gave everyone else a competitive advantage in the NFL and now has moved onto ruining a college team too.

I have an idea, how about we come out in some OHIO U uniforms. I bet that would give us a competitive advantage too.

Pitt should ask if O'Leary would not coach for the game....Too much of a competitive advantage? Just kidding...

I have a solution! We get the Pitt players a personal massage at Southern Nights. That should ease the extra two days right away lmfao

A couple of things.

First, UCF does not need Pitt nad Pitt does not need UCF, so I hardly doubt either will care. I have no doubt that UCF is already working behind the scenes to find a replacement if Pitt jumps out.

I really don't understand the big deal. Its not like Dave Wanny can coach. Would it matter if he has three or ten extra days, he is probably the worst football coach in the country.

One other note, you all seem to think that UCF is just waiting back for the Big East to invite UCF. I can tell you that UCF has no interest in a football only invite. As for all sports, UCF is building something in Orlando the Big East would be very lucky to get. Our facilities will be 100 times better than anything USF could dream of.

Shannon Panther Wrote:

KNIGHTTIME Wrote:

Shannon Panther Wrote:

goodknightfl Wrote:

Shannon Panther Wrote:The obvious fix is to move the UCF Marshall game to Saturday and give ESPN a different CUSA game for that Wednesday. Either that or Pitt will negotiate another appearance on ESPN to compensate them. It looks like CUSA made the mistake though.

like it or not.....
espn is the driving force here... they want the UCF marshall game in mid week that would have been worked out between CUSA and ESPN.. probably with little or no knowledge of the agreement. Pitt is a BCS school... hell they should be able to play sat... and then play ucf an non bcs school on tuesday and still beat us...

That wasn't what was agreed on. We have breach of contract. The agreement was they could move the game only if neither team gained a competitive advantage. The Marshall UCF game was scheduled after the agreement with Pitt was made.

It stinks that this was moved to the smack board...

Anyway, we don't know what the agreement was. I'm pretty sure there was no written contract to not have a few extra days off. We are talking a two day difference....UCF plays many weekday games for exposure. The only reason why we moved the Pitt game to this year was because ESPN wanted to Televise the game. ESPN wanted Southern Miss against UCF too...Guess what? That is a Tuesday night game....I'm sure someone will be at some advantage or disadvantage the next week.

The reality of the situation is that Pitt needed a game and UCF helped them out and ESPN offered to Televise the game. I personally think it is crappy for Pitt to act this way of you ask me.

Pitt should tell UCF to go F*%$ themselves and find another opponent. UCF breached an oral contract. Spin it anyway you want to, according to the article UCF is in material breach of contract and Pitt owes them nothing. Pitt should give them just what they owe them.

I find it humorous that you think it is crappy of Pitt to insist that UCF honor their agreements. The game was scheduled for Saturday and ESPN wanted it moved to Friday. Pitt agreed as long as there was no competetive advantage gained by UCF. UCF agreed to these terms. UCF has breached these terms. Pitt should simply walk away and have nothing more to do with UCF, ever. After the hose job they laid on WVU last season and this crap, nobody from the BE, especially USF should have anything to do with UCF at all.

I hope the buy out for the return games for this is high. Given this level of integrity, I am not counting on UCF honoring the return game they owe us.

I agree. This is the perfect opportunity for Pitt to back out of the game and replace a tough UCF team with a cupcake 1-AA team that they might actually be able to beat. lmfao

Now its being reported that in 2007 Tennessee is probably going to buy out of the game with UCF. I can't believe that, those losers. How can they go back on a contract. I think the SEC should kick them out of the conference. Tennessee has not notified UCF yet, its not fair.

KnightLight Wrote:Pitt will have an "extra" day of rest for their following game vs Rutgers.

Should Rutgers cancel that game...because Pitt will have an advantage?

Also...Pitt will have 2 extra days of rest before their season finale vs Louisville.

Should Louisville cancel their game against Pitt since the Panthers will have TWO extra days of rest?

KL

This game has nothing to do with Rutger vs Pitt, nor UL vs Pitt. These games are independent of the agreement Pittsburgh reached Central Florida. The bottom line is you administration stood by and let this happen despite of your agreement.

Your administration continues to have no class. Then again, what else do you expect from a group that for years publicly begged and called out USF for a game, and after get their asses handed to them last Fall continues to call out USF, by calling them "cowgirls" in public.

Oh btw.....careful what you write on this board, there is a lurker amongst us.

Sir Galahad Wrote:A couple of things.

First, UCF does not need Pitt nad Pitt does not need UCF, so I hardly doubt either will care. I have no doubt that UCF is already working behind the scenes to find a replacement if Pitt jumps out.

I really don't understand the big deal. Its not like Dave Wanny can coach. Would it matter if he has three or ten extra days, he is probably the worst football coach in the country.

One other note, you all seem to think that UCF is just waiting back for the Big East to invite UCF. I can tell you that UCF has no interest in a football only invite. As for all sports, UCF is building something in Orlando the Big East would be very lucky to get. Our facilities will be 100 times better than anything USF could dream of.

Bullsh!t....


Steve Orsini would have jumpmed all over a big East football only bid back in 2003, and would have likely done the same if presented again. Do you need to pull out those links again?

Oh btw, careful fellas.....Sir Gally has a cool habit of running his mouth for a months (years) and then going into hiding when his team can't back up his smack talk on the field.