brista21 Wrote:

CyberBull Wrote:Glimpse of Voting for BE #9 :

USF - No, obvious reasons and UCF continue to take shots at USF; see "cowgirls" comment by O'Leary the other night...
Pitt - No, getting screwed in scheduling just like....see below...
WVU - No, see Pittsburg; UCF's last visit to WVU left a sour taste in their mouths due to players taking cheap shots and thugging it up...
UL - No, Tom Jurich was one of USF's most vocal supporters for admission to the BE; adding CFLA potentially undermines this growth; UL also heavily recruits Florida so I doubt he wants TWO teams to compete with

Syracuse - yes; was ready to admit UCF as football-only back in 2003

Cincy -- Leaning toward no; no real indication either way but UC's President is very close to USF's and have historically have voted the same back in their CDOA days...

UCONN -- ? wildcard
Rutgers -- ? another wildcard; they also recruit Florida heavily but usually for 3rd or 4th tier players. There are plenty of those around and they can sell recruits on playing in Florida at least once if not twice per year;


Overall it doesn't look good for UCF and if the BE decides it needs to add a bowl friendly program Memphis or ECU would fit the bill better than UCF

I tend to believe that Rutgers will vote with WVU as is common and vote no on UCF. ECU would probably garner our support as would Memphis.

As for RU recruiting 3rd or 4th tier players, that's starting to change and an absolute breakout season this year would virtually ensure getting the best NJ, NY, and even a few of the best Florida guys on the banks of the old Raritan.

To me it makes no sense to have a Florida team in a north-eastern conference.

KNIGHTTIME Wrote:To me it makes no sense to have a Florida team in a north-eastern conference.

Agreed. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see UCF in a bcs conference, but outside of setting the stage for a killer rivalry with USF, I really don't think the big east is much of a fit. We don't whine enough.

Quote:Is Pitt REALLY scared of UCF?

CLEARLY this must be the case, Pitt being upset has nothing to do with a miscommunication that led to UCF having 2 extra days to prepare for them despite part of the deal being that neither school have extra days to prepare.

Do you guys screw over other conferences all the time or just Big East teams?

Quote:I really don't think the big east is much of a fit. We don't whine enough.

It's funny watching fans of a school averaging under 30k football attendance and playing basketball in a high school gymnasium (no offense to H.S. gyms) turning down their make-believe invitations to BCS conferences.

nflsucks Wrote:

Quote:Is Pitt REALLY scared of UCF?

CLEARLY this must be the case, Pitt being upset has nothing to do with a miscommunication that led to UCF having 2 extra days to prepare for them despite part of the deal being that neither school have extra days to prepare.

Do you guys screw over other conferences all the time or just Big East teams?

Quote:I really don't think the big east is much of a fit. We don't whine enough.

It's funny watching fans of a school averaging under 30k football attendance and playing basketball in a high school gymnasium (no offense to H.S. gyms) turning down their make-believe invitations to BCS conferences.

You realize this is normal with weekday games? We have done this multiple times in the past...either having the advantage or disadvantage. Outside of the WVU deal, I can't remember us doing anything to any team. We are usually on the losing stick for those. Keep in mind we are overscheduled out until 2010 so anyone on our schedule has the possibility to be bumped.

I can't believe this would be such an issue??? Plenty of teams have an off week at some point and the other team only gets 7 days to prepare. That is just the way it is....Complain to ESPN or complain that Pitt should have put the language in the contract if they are concerned.

2nd point....We are building a new arena complex worth over $250 million dollars as we speak. It will match plenty of arenas already in the Big East for that matter.....

Wilkie01 Wrote:The real manly thing to do is quit crying like little sissy girls and just kick their asses on the field! Quit crying, its unmanly and is that a Yankee thing? People in the South would just make their point on game day by running up the score!

That would be my way to solve this. Let Tyler Palko have a green light all game long. I think with Pitt's receiving core they should be able to put a basketball type score on the board. A 70-14 beating is just what the Knights need to show them the Panthers feelings on the situation.

They haven't lived up to the letter of their agreement, which doesn't surprise me at all. But what Pitt should do is line up and beat the crap out of them. That would teach them a lesson they would carry through the entire season, and would not be soon forgotten.

This does tend to make UCF rather unattractive as a possible entry in the Big East. You want a school that will honor the letter of their contracts, and not one who fails to communicate.

Quote:We have done this multiple times in the past...either having the advantage or disadvantage.

Part of the deal was that neither team had an advantage. IT WAS PART OF THE DEAL.

Quote:This does tend to make UCF rather unattractive as a possible entry in the Big East.

They really are shooting themselves in the foot. UCF doesn't seem to be able to see things from the other perspective.

nflsucks Wrote:

Quote:This does tend to make UCF rather unattractive as a possible entry in the Big East.

They really are shooting themselves in the foot. UCF doesn't seem to be able to see things from the other perspective.

I had an instructor in college who said, "If you don't know the answer, it's in the book, but if you don't read the book it's not my problem."
UCF isn't reading the book. It's their problem.

KNIGHTTIME Wrote:

brista21 Wrote:

CyberBull Wrote:Glimpse of Voting for BE #9 :

USF - No, obvious reasons and UCF continue to take shots at USF; see "cowgirls" comment by O'Leary the other night...
Pitt - No, getting screwed in scheduling just like....see below...
WVU - No, see Pittsburg; UCF's last visit to WVU left a sour taste in their mouths due to players taking cheap shots and thugging it up...
UL - No, Tom Jurich was one of USF's most vocal supporters for admission to the BE; adding CFLA potentially undermines this growth; UL also heavily recruits Florida so I doubt he wants TWO teams to compete with

Syracuse - yes; was ready to admit UCF as football-only back in 2003

Cincy -- Leaning toward no; no real indication either way but UC's President is very close to USF's and have historically have voted the same back in their CDOA days...

UCONN -- ? wildcard
Rutgers -- ? another wildcard; they also recruit Florida heavily but usually for 3rd or 4th tier players. There are plenty of those around and they can sell recruits on playing in Florida at least once if not twice per year;


Overall it doesn't look good for UCF and if the BE decides it needs to add a bowl friendly program Memphis or ECU would fit the bill better than UCF

I tend to believe that Rutgers will vote with WVU as is common and vote no on UCF. ECU would probably garner our support as would Memphis.

As for RU recruiting 3rd or 4th tier players, that's starting to change and an absolute breakout season this year would virtually ensure getting the best NJ, NY, and even a few of the best Florida guys on the banks of the old Raritan.

To me it makes no sense to have a Florida team in a north-eastern conference.

KnightTime: How has having two teams in the State of Washington and two teams in Southern California and two teams in Arizona hurt the Pac10?

It's not about geography but more about schools having similar missions and forming a conference that is mutually beneficial. That was what got USF into the BE. USF is devotingmost of it's energies in becoming a Top 50 Public research institution and is well on it's way there. That mission is compatible with 7 out of the 8 football schools in the Big East. On the field the Florida market and growth of the of the program from nothing to a bowl eligible in less than 6 years made USF very attractive. The question is whether the BE wants TWO Florida based teams.

BTW...for the record I am not necessarily opposed to having UCF join the BE, but USF needs to protect it's investment and hard work over the years and make sure that UCF admission is done equitably for existing members, including USF.

rulethirty Wrote:

KNIGHTTIME Wrote:To me it makes no sense to have a Florida team in a north-eastern conference.

Agreed. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see UCF in a bcs conference, but outside of setting the stage for a killer rivalry with USF, I really don't think the big east is much of a fit. We don't whine enough.

Aren't you the same school that stomped their feet and whined that South Florida wouldn't play you?

brista21 Wrote:

CyberBull Wrote:Glimpse of Voting for BE #9 :

USF - No, obvious reasons and UCF continue to take shots at USF; see "cowgirls" comment by O'Leary the other night...
Pitt - No, getting screwed in scheduling just like....see below...
WVU - No, see Pittsburg; UCF's last visit to WVU left a sour taste in their mouths due to players taking cheap shots and thugging it up...
UL - No, Tom Jurich was one of USF's most vocal supporters for admission to the BE; adding CFLA potentially undermines this growth; UL also heavily recruits Florida so I doubt he wants TWO teams to compete with

Syracuse - yes; was ready to admit UCF as football-only back in 2003

Cincy -- Leaning toward no; no real indication either way but UC's President is very close to USF's and have historically have voted the same back in their CDOA days...

UCONN -- ? wildcard
Rutgers -- ? another wildcard; they also recruit Florida heavily but usually for 3rd or 4th tier players. There are plenty of those around and they can sell recruits on playing in Florida at least once if not twice per year;


Overall it doesn't look good for UCF and if the BE decides it needs to add a bowl friendly program Memphis or ECU would fit the bill better than UCF

I tend to believe that Rutgers will vote with WVU as is common and vote no on UCF. ECU would probably garner our support as would Memphis.

As for RU recruiting 3rd or 4th tier players, that's starting to change and an absolute breakout season this year would virtually ensure getting the best NJ, NY, and even a few of the best Florida guys on the banks of the old Raritan.

Rutgers or UCONN are clearly not interested in a 9th team from cusa.If a psu,ND or like school ever becomes available thats a different story.ucfla cleary has no interest in the BE for football only.

UCF is enjoying life in CUSA and do not care about kissing up to the BE and its teams.

tigersharktwo Wrote:

brista21 Wrote:

CyberBull Wrote:Glimpse of Voting for BE #9 :

USF - No, obvious reasons and UCF continue to take shots at USF; see "cowgirls" comment by O'Leary the other night...
Pitt - No, getting screwed in scheduling just like....see below...
WVU - No, see Pittsburg; UCF's last visit to WVU left a sour taste in their mouths due to players taking cheap shots and thugging it up...
UL - No, Tom Jurich was one of USF's most vocal supporters for admission to the BE; adding CFLA potentially undermines this growth; UL also heavily recruits Florida so I doubt he wants TWO teams to compete with

Syracuse - yes; was ready to admit UCF as football-only back in 2003

Cincy -- Leaning toward no; no real indication either way but UC's President is very close to USF's and have historically have voted the same back in their CDOA days...

UCONN -- ? wildcard
Rutgers -- ? another wildcard; they also recruit Florida heavily but usually for 3rd or 4th tier players. There are plenty of those around and they can sell recruits on playing in Florida at least once if not twice per year;


Overall it doesn't look good for UCF and if the BE decides it needs to add a bowl friendly program Memphis or ECU would fit the bill better than UCF

I tend to believe that Rutgers will vote with WVU as is common and vote no on UCF. ECU would probably garner our support as would Memphis.

As for RU recruiting 3rd or 4th tier players, that's starting to change and an absolute breakout season this year would virtually ensure getting the best NJ, NY, and even a few of the best Florida guys on the banks of the old Raritan.

Rutgers or UCONN are clearly not interested in a 9th team from cusa.If a psu,ND or like school ever becomes available thats a different story.ucfla cleary has no interest in the BE for football only.

Tigershark, who do you speak with at Rutgers about this. Word around campus is we're gonna have a ninth team from somewhere soon. Although the preference seems to be for Temple with Golden and D'Onofrio running the show.

Magic Knight Wrote: UCF is enjoying life in CUSA and do not care about kissing up to the BE and its teams.

Good stay in CDOA and enjoy your life lmfao

Magic Knight Wrote: UCF is enjoying life in CUSA and do not care about kissing up to the BE and its teams.

You're not only not kissing up, you're screwing them over. I certainly do hope you enjoy being a mid-major because at the rate you are p*ssing off Big East teams you will continue to be one for a long, long time.

Cubanbull Wrote:

Magic Knight Wrote: UCF is enjoying life in CUSA and do not care about kissing up to the BE and its teams.

Good stay in CDOA and enjoy your life lmfao

Leave CDOA for the Big Easy, great deal.

nflsucks Wrote:

Magic Knight Wrote: UCF is enjoying life in CUSA and do not care about kissing up to the BE and its teams.

You're not only not kissing up, you're screwing them over. I certainly do hope you enjoy being a mid-major because at the rate you are p*ssing off Big East teams you will continue to be one for a long, long time.

Hey, you all chose UCF as a candidate for your next round of expansion. lmfao

Magic Knight Wrote:

Cubanbull Wrote:

Magic Knight Wrote: UCF is enjoying life in CUSA and do not care about kissing up to the BE and its teams.

Good stay in CDOA and enjoy your life lmfao

Leave CDOA for the Big Easy, great deal.

Yeah 13 million deal almost what your total athletic budget is yearly. But go right ahead I hope your admistration has the same opinion you have.
But i remember your administration holding off on accepting the CUSA bid while they waited to see if BE would add the 9th football school.
Yes UCF was a candidate and so are ECU and Memphis but just because you are a candidate doesnt mean you are the best choice

Quote:Leave CDOA for the Big Easy, great deal.

Thank God you aren't in charge of the UCF Athletic Department, only a fool would pass up the money you'd get being in a BCS football conference (not to mention the basketball upgrade).

But I'm sure that the UCF fans would much rather receive significantly less money and watch Tulane, Tulsa, ECU, etc. than USF, Pitt, Louisville, and West Virginia.

Cubanbull Wrote:

Magic Knight Wrote:

Cubanbull Wrote:

Magic Knight Wrote: UCF is enjoying life in CUSA and do not care about kissing up to the BE and its teams.

Good stay in CDOA and enjoy your life lmfao

Leave CDOA for the Big Easy, great deal.

Yeah 13 million deal almost what your total athletic budget is yearly. But go right ahead I hope your admistration has the same opinion you have.
But i remember your administration holding off on accepting the CUSA bid while they waited to see if BE would add the 9th football school.
Yes UCF was a candidate and so are ECU and Memphis but just because you are a candidate doesnt mean you are the best choice

Majority of that BCS money goes toward paying OOC opponents to come play in BE stadiums. Did Florida A&M got the lion share of gate from USF? lmfao It seems the BE needs UCF more than UCF needs the BE. The only reason UCF is being mentioned as a rumored candidate for your split, is because UCF was the hottest team in CUSA and recieved alot of media attention. Nice way to show all the BE critics how desperate you all are. UAB goes undefeated in CUSA will they be considered a candidate too. lmfao

nflsucks Wrote:

Quote:Leave CDOA for the Big Easy, great deal.

Thank God you aren't in charge of the UCF Athletic Department, only a fool would pass up the money you'd get being in a BCS football conference (not to mention the basketball upgrade).

But I'm sure that the UCF fans would much rather receive significantly less money and watch Tulane, Tulsa, ECU, etc. than USF, Pitt, Louisville, and West Virginia.

BE's BCS Money is FOOL GOLD. Much of its goes toward scheduling OOC teams. It was funny watching Florida A &M get the lion share of the gate from USF.