(01-17-2017 02:52 PM)JTApps1 Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 02:21 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Good decision to put the Charlotte game first. App fans do you expect you will have completed stadium expansion by 2025?

We should know more very soon. We keep hearing a facility plan is going to be announced, but nobody seems to know when that is. I have wondered if we were waiting until after this announcement to use it to help the fund raising campaign.

This has been going on since the last facility upgrades were completed.

(01-17-2017 03:21 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  2 for 1. That's about right.

Apps keeps the gate and a home game in 2021 with the game in Charlotte. Closer to a 2-2 deal as App is likely to bring just as many fans to Charlotte as they would to Boone.

(01-13-2017 02:28 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(01-13-2017 12:56 PM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 10:23 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  The AAC has sent 2 teams to the Access Bowl, out of 3 years... winning both.

I have no intention or desire to get involved in the back-and-forth of this thread, but I wanted to point out...in case it hasn't been noted yet...that this isn't correct.

That's correct. In 2013, Central Florida did not get an access bowl bid. Rather, the won the then-brand new AAC's final automatic bid to the BCS, which had for the previous 15 years gone to the Big East champion. The first CFP Access Bowl entrant was Boise State for the 2014 season. That was when there was a three way tie for the ACA title between Memphis, Cincinnati, and UFC. None of them went to a New Year's Six bowl. In 2015, Houston got the AAC's only access bowl bid so far. For the 2016 season, Western Michigan got the access bowl bid.

While you are "technically" correct on a technicality, the fact remains that UCF won a BCS bowl in the final year of BCS and EVEN IF the AAC/Big East did NOT have an automatic bid, UCF still would have been chosen for a BCS bid and would have been the BCS buster due to finishing 15th in final BCS rankings. In other words, take away the AAC's auto bid in the final year, and UCF still gets in as the lone non power team. So, in reality, the auto bid meant nothing that year.

The fact remains, that since 2013 (the first year of the newly constructed AAC), the AAC has played in 2 major (BCS/NY6) bowls, the MWC 1, and the MAC 1. The AAC has won 2 major bowls, MWC 1, and no one else has won.

Those are the facts.

Looking forward to it App fans.

(01-17-2017 03:33 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 03:21 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  2 for 1. That's about right.

Apps keeps the gate and a home game in 2021 with the game in Charlotte. Closer to a 2-2 deal as App is likely to bring just as many fans to Charlotte as they would to Boone.

I found the most details in the W-S Journal article:
http://www.journalnow.com/sports/asu/app...7e10e.html

And pasted from that:
"Based on a preexisting deal between the city and the Carolina Panthers, Charlotte can serve as a rent-free host for the App State-ECU game in Bank of America Stadium.

The series is structured to resemble East Carolina and Appalachian State having two home games apiece, except that the Mountaineers are taking one of their games to Charlotte. There are incentives for ECU to sell tickets for the game in an NFL stadium with more than 75,000 seats - or roughly three times the capacity of App State's Kidd Brewer Stadium - but the Mountaineers will receive a high percentage of revenue from ticket sales.

That revenue will be beneficial to Appalachian State on a 2021 schedule that doesn't include a hefty payout from a one-time “money” game at an SEC school or another Power Five program. ......."

This is likely good for both schools in that App gets ticket revenue as if it is 7 home games for 2021 and ECU gets a huge ticket allotment to sell effectively giving ECU something like a 7th home (or at least an in-state) game as well. Both schools have large alumni bases in Charlotte area and all the other population centers in NC are an easy drive to Charlotte. Here's to hoping for a packed BofA stadium full of hyped-up fans in 2021.

(01-17-2017 03:16 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 02:21 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Good decision to put the Charlotte game first. App fans do you expect you will have completed stadium expansion by 2025?

Plan (likely) includes relocating the track, a tear down & rebuild of our field house in the north endzone, addition of club seats in that endzone, and additional seating along both sidelines. I'd be willing to guess all in, this would bring our official capacity to 28-29k, maybe more depending on exactly what they do. Actual capacity should be 33-35k.

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Good to hear. A lot of silly angst among ECU fans about playing a game in Boone but it will be fun and by 2025 you guys will have been FBS for a full decade. I'd have had an issue if we had like agreed to go to Boone within the first couple of years you were up or something but by 2025 you guys are going to be a firmly established FBS program.

(01-17-2017 05:50 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 03:16 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 02:21 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Good decision to put the Charlotte game first. App fans do you expect you will have completed stadium expansion by 2025?

Plan (likely) includes relocating the track, a tear down & rebuild of our field house in the north endzone, addition of club seats in that endzone, and additional seating along both sidelines. I'd be willing to guess all in, this would bring our official capacity to 28-29k, maybe more depending on exactly what they do. Actual capacity should be 33-35k.

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Good to hear. A lot of silly angst among ECU fans about playing a game in Boone but it will be fun and by 2025 you guys will have been FBS for a full decade. I'd have had an issue if we had like agreed to go to Boone within the first couple of years you were up or something but by 2025 you guys are going to be a firmly established FBS program.

I understand the sentiment but two 10 win seasons in the first two full years of FBS should remove any prerequisites for a school like ECU to play in Boone; especially when ECU is finishing seasons ranked below 100 in Massey and Sagarin ratings. If Marshall, Wake Forest, and Miami agreed to an even series early in App State's FBS tenure, so can ECU.

(01-17-2017 04:26 PM)OldApp79 Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 03:33 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 03:21 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  2 for 1. That's about right.

Apps keeps the gate and a home game in 2021 with the game in Charlotte. Closer to a 2-2 deal as App is likely to bring just as many fans to Charlotte as they would to Boone.

I found the most details in the W-S Journal article:
http://www.journalnow.com/sports/asu/app...7e10e.html

And pasted from that:
"Based on a preexisting deal between the city and the Carolina Panthers, Charlotte can serve as a rent-free host for the App State-ECU game in Bank of America Stadium.

The series is structured to resemble East Carolina and Appalachian State having two home games apiece, except that the Mountaineers are taking one of their games to Charlotte. There are incentives for ECU to sell tickets for the game in an NFL stadium with more than 75,000 seats - or roughly three times the capacity of App State's Kidd Brewer Stadium - but the Mountaineers will receive a high percentage of revenue from ticket sales.

That revenue will be beneficial to Appalachian State on a 2021 schedule that doesn't include a hefty payout from a one-time “money” game at an SEC school or another Power Five program. ......."

This is likely good for both schools in that App gets ticket revenue as if it is 7 home games for 2021 and ECU gets a huge ticket allotment to sell effectively giving ECU something like a 7th home (or at least an in-state) game as well. Both schools have large alumni bases in Charlotte area and all the other population centers in NC are an easy drive to Charlotte. Here's to hoping for a packed BofA stadium full of hyped-up fans in 2021.

As an ECU alumni and App fan, I find attendance to this game to be mandatory for anyone living within a reasonable distance. Charlotte isn't a destination city and the week leading up to the game can certainly serve as a Bowl atmosphere (without the inherent festivities provided by the city) considering the location of the game.

(01-17-2017 06:17 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 05:50 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 03:16 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 02:21 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Good decision to put the Charlotte game first. App fans do you expect you will have completed stadium expansion by 2025?

Plan (likely) includes relocating the track, a tear down & rebuild of our field house in the north endzone, addition of club seats in that endzone, and additional seating along both sidelines. I'd be willing to guess all in, this would bring our official capacity to 28-29k, maybe more depending on exactly what they do. Actual capacity should be 33-35k.

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Good to hear. A lot of silly angst among ECU fans about playing a game in Boone but it will be fun and by 2025 you guys will have been FBS for a full decade. I'd have had an issue if we had like agreed to go to Boone within the first couple of years you were up or something but by 2025 you guys are going to be a firmly established FBS program.

I understand the sentiment but two 10 win seasons in the first two full years of FBS should remove any prerequisites for a school like ECU to play in Boone; especially when ECU is finishing seasons ranked below 100 in Massey and Sagarin ratings. If Marshall, Wake Forest, and Miami agreed to an even series early in App State's FBS tenure, so can ECU.

Has nothing to do with the quality of your football team. Like I said by the time ECU ends up going to App you are going to be a firmly established FBS program and I'd expect you'll have your stadium expanded enough to match the ticket allotment we'll give to you. I think that would be a concern right now. We usually allot 5k to visitors/band of the regional P5's we play, and my guess is we'd allot you the same amount and probably have it as a demand that you match that for games we play in Boone. At your current capacity that would probably be a tough ask and might not even be possible. I have little doubt by 2025 this won't be an issue.

(01-17-2017 06:40 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 06:17 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 05:50 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 03:16 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 02:21 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Good decision to put the Charlotte game first. App fans do you expect you will have completed stadium expansion by 2025?

Plan (likely) includes relocating the track, a tear down & rebuild of our field house in the north endzone, addition of club seats in that endzone, and additional seating along both sidelines. I'd be willing to guess all in, this would bring our official capacity to 28-29k, maybe more depending on exactly what they do. Actual capacity should be 33-35k.

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

Good to hear. A lot of silly angst among ECU fans about playing a game in Boone but it will be fun and by 2025 you guys will have been FBS for a full decade. I'd have had an issue if we had like agreed to go to Boone within the first couple of years you were up or something but by 2025 you guys are going to be a firmly established FBS program.

I understand the sentiment but two 10 win seasons in the first two full years of FBS should remove any prerequisites for a school like ECU to play in Boone; especially when ECU is finishing seasons ranked below 100 in Massey and Sagarin ratings. If Marshall, Wake Forest, and Miami agreed to an even series early in App State's FBS tenure, so can ECU.

Has nothing to do with the quality of your football team. Like I said by the time ECU ends up going to App you are going to be a firmly established FBS program and I'd expect you'll have your stadium expanded enough to match the ticket allotment we'll give to you. I think that would be a concern right now. We usually allot 5k to visitors/band of the regional P5's we play, and my guess is we'd allot you the same amount and probably have it as a demand that you match that for games we play in Boone. At your current capacity that would probably be a tough ask and might not even be possible. I have little doubt by 2025 this won't be an issue.

man, we hope they have the stadium done, but our administration, for whatever reason, will not publically acknowledge or disprove any future plans to expand/improve the stadium, we are dying to just to hear something, anything from the school.

(01-17-2017 07:56 PM)moehler Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 06:40 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 06:17 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 05:50 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 03:16 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Plan (likely) includes relocating the track, a tear down & rebuild of our field house in the north endzone, addition of club seats in that endzone, and additional seating along both sidelines. I'd be willing to guess all in, this would bring our official capacity to 28-29k, maybe more depending on exactly what they do. Actual capacity should be 33-35k.

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

Good to hear. A lot of silly angst among ECU fans about playing a game in Boone but it will be fun and by 2025 you guys will have been FBS for a full decade. I'd have had an issue if we had like agreed to go to Boone within the first couple of years you were up or something but by 2025 you guys are going to be a firmly established FBS program.

I understand the sentiment but two 10 win seasons in the first two full years of FBS should remove any prerequisites for a school like ECU to play in Boone; especially when ECU is finishing seasons ranked below 100 in Massey and Sagarin ratings. If Marshall, Wake Forest, and Miami agreed to an even series early in App State's FBS tenure, so can ECU.

Has nothing to do with the quality of your football team. Like I said by the time ECU ends up going to App you are going to be a firmly established FBS program and I'd expect you'll have your stadium expanded enough to match the ticket allotment we'll give to you. I think that would be a concern right now. We usually allot 5k to visitors/band of the regional P5's we play, and my guess is we'd allot you the same amount and probably have it as a demand that you match that for games we play in Boone. At your current capacity that would probably be a tough ask and might not even be possible. I have little doubt by 2025 this won't be an issue.

man, we hope they have the stadium done, but our administration, for whatever reason, will not publically acknowledge or disprove any future plans to expand/improve the stadium, we are dying to just to hear something, anything from the school.

2025 is a long way off. I would be extremely disappointed and shocked if you have not completed an expansion by then.

(01-17-2017 08:40 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 07:56 PM)moehler Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 06:40 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 06:17 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 05:50 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Good to hear. A lot of silly angst among ECU fans about playing a game in Boone but it will be fun and by 2025 you guys will have been FBS for a full decade. I'd have had an issue if we had like agreed to go to Boone within the first couple of years you were up or something but by 2025 you guys are going to be a firmly established FBS program.

I understand the sentiment but two 10 win seasons in the first two full years of FBS should remove any prerequisites for a school like ECU to play in Boone; especially when ECU is finishing seasons ranked below 100 in Massey and Sagarin ratings. If Marshall, Wake Forest, and Miami agreed to an even series early in App State's FBS tenure, so can ECU.

Has nothing to do with the quality of your football team. Like I said by the time ECU ends up going to App you are going to be a firmly established FBS program and I'd expect you'll have your stadium expanded enough to match the ticket allotment we'll give to you. I think that would be a concern right now. We usually allot 5k to visitors/band of the regional P5's we play, and my guess is we'd allot you the same amount and probably have it as a demand that you match that for games we play in Boone. At your current capacity that would probably be a tough ask and might not even be possible. I have little doubt by 2025 this won't be an issue.

man, we hope they have the stadium done, but our administration, for whatever reason, will not publically acknowledge or disprove any future plans to expand/improve the stadium, we are dying to just to hear something, anything from the school.

2025 is a long way off. I would be extremely disappointed and shocked if you have not completed an expansion by then.

So would I. Expect another important announcement prior to the facilities plan.

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(01-17-2017 05:50 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 03:16 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 02:21 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Good decision to put the Charlotte game first. App fans do you expect you will have completed stadium expansion by 2025?

Plan (likely) includes relocating the track, a tear down & rebuild of our field house in the north endzone, addition of club seats in that endzone, and additional seating along both sidelines. I'd be willing to guess all in, this would bring our official capacity to 28-29k, maybe more depending on exactly what they do. Actual capacity should be 33-35k.

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

Good to hear. A lot of silly angst among ECU fans about playing a game in Boone but it will be fun and by 2025 you guys will have been FBS for a full decade. I'd have had an issue if we had like agreed to go to Boone within the first couple of years you were up or something but by 2025 you guys are going to be a firmly established FBS program.

I completely understand. Our official capacity right now is 24k but we routinely put 28-30 in there with GA standing room (grass hill), but it's distinctly possible that adding numbered seats only shifts the numbers. So instead of 24k/6k official/GA it could shift to 28k/2k. All depends on how the expansion is actually built. And we won't know until an official plan comes out.

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Congrats on the series and it's LOOOONG overdue.

(01-17-2017 05:50 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 03:16 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 02:21 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Good decision to put the Charlotte game first. App fans do you expect you will have completed stadium expansion by 2025?

Plan (likely) includes relocating the track, a tear down & rebuild of our field house in the north endzone, addition of club seats in that endzone, and additional seating along both sidelines. I'd be willing to guess all in, this would bring our official capacity to 28-29k, maybe more depending on exactly what they do. Actual capacity should be 33-35k.

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

Good to hear. A lot of silly angst among ECU fans about playing a game in Boone but it will be fun and by 2025 you guys will have been FBS for a full decade. I'd have had an issue if we had like agreed to go to Boone within the first couple of years you were up or something but by 2025 you guys are going to be a firmly established FBS program.

G5 AAC ECU has a problem playing in Boone within our first few years in FBS, but P5 ACC Miami and Wake don't? 😕

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(01-18-2017 11:18 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 05:50 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 03:16 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 02:21 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Good decision to put the Charlotte game first. App fans do you expect you will have completed stadium expansion by 2025?

Plan (likely) includes relocating the track, a tear down & rebuild of our field house in the north endzone, addition of club seats in that endzone, and additional seating along both sidelines. I'd be willing to guess all in, this would bring our official capacity to 28-29k, maybe more depending on exactly what they do. Actual capacity should be 33-35k.

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

Good to hear. A lot of silly angst among ECU fans about playing a game in Boone but it will be fun and by 2025 you guys will have been FBS for a full decade. I'd have had an issue if we had like agreed to go to Boone within the first couple of years you were up or something but by 2025 you guys are going to be a firmly established FBS program.

I completely understand. Our official capacity right now is 24k but we routinely put 28-30 in there with GA standing room (grass hill), but it's distinctly possible that adding numbered seats only shifts the numbers. So instead of 24k/6k official/GA it could shift to 28k/2k. All depends on how the expansion is actually built. And we won't know until an official plan comes out.

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

Miami was announced at the limit the Fire Marshal set however I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if there were more. Big games will attract crowds to Boone and that has been the case really since 2006 it seems. The 24,000 for a playoff game in 2007 was an NCAA record for FCS and likely still is as well as the attendance for the 2007 National Championship game.

An hour drive to Charlotte should be nothing. As it stands now, ECU is the king of the state in football as UNC and NC State have not been able to beat them. (despite having a 3-9 record). Hopefully that is still true in 2021 when this game is played.

(01-18-2017 12:56 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 05:50 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 03:16 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 02:21 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Good decision to put the Charlotte game first. App fans do you expect you will have completed stadium expansion by 2025?

Plan (likely) includes relocating the track, a tear down & rebuild of our field house in the north endzone, addition of club seats in that endzone, and additional seating along both sidelines. I'd be willing to guess all in, this would bring our official capacity to 28-29k, maybe more depending on exactly what they do. Actual capacity should be 33-35k.

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

Good to hear. A lot of silly angst among ECU fans about playing a game in Boone but it will be fun and by 2025 you guys will have been FBS for a full decade. I'd have had an issue if we had like agreed to go to Boone within the first couple of years you were up or something but by 2025 you guys are going to be a firmly established FBS program.

G5 AAC ECU has a problem playing in Boone within our first few years in FBS, but P5 ACC Miami and Wake don't? ?

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No one in the administration has these issues. Only the ECU fans who thought they were moving to the Big East, but really moved into C-USA 2.0.

(01-18-2017 01:56 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-18-2017 12:56 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 05:50 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 03:16 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 02:21 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Good decision to put the Charlotte game first. App fans do you expect you will have completed stadium expansion by 2025?

Plan (likely) includes relocating the track, a tear down & rebuild of our field house in the north endzone, addition of club seats in that endzone, and additional seating along both sidelines. I'd be willing to guess all in, this would bring our official capacity to 28-29k, maybe more depending on exactly what they do. Actual capacity should be 33-35k.

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Good to hear. A lot of silly angst among ECU fans about playing a game in Boone but it will be fun and by 2025 you guys will have been FBS for a full decade. I'd have had an issue if we had like agreed to go to Boone within the first couple of years you were up or something but by 2025 you guys are going to be a firmly established FBS program.

G5 AAC ECU has a problem playing in Boone within our first few years in FBS, but P5 ACC Miami and Wake don't? ?

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No one in the administration has these issues. Only the ECU fans who thought they were moving to the Big East, but really moved into C-USA 2.0.

Did they really think they were going to the Big East? At the time of their invitation, Syracuse, Pitt, WVU, Rutgers, and Louisville had already committed to going elsewhere. Boise and SDSU had not yet backed out, but TCU had.

(01-18-2017 12:56 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 05:50 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 03:16 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 02:21 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Good decision to put the Charlotte game first. App fans do you expect you will have completed stadium expansion by 2025?

Plan (likely) includes relocating the track, a tear down & rebuild of our field house in the north endzone, addition of club seats in that endzone, and additional seating along both sidelines. I'd be willing to guess all in, this would bring our official capacity to 28-29k, maybe more depending on exactly what they do. Actual capacity should be 33-35k.

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

Good to hear. A lot of silly angst among ECU fans about playing a game in Boone but it will be fun and by 2025 you guys will have been FBS for a full decade. I'd have had an issue if we had like agreed to go to Boone within the first couple of years you were up or something but by 2025 you guys are going to be a firmly established FBS program.

G5 AAC ECU has a problem playing in Boone within our first few years in FBS, but P5 ACC Miami and Wake don't? ?

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Do you think either of those 2 want or care about the allotment of tickets you were able to offer them? You are taking this as a shot at your program and it's not. This is just about logistics there's probably no way that at your current capacity you'd be able to offer the visitor allotment we would want/need to play that game. By 2025 I doubt that's a problem. If I'm wrong though tell me do you think it would be possible with your current stadium configuration to reserve 4 to 5k seats as our allotment?

(01-18-2017 04:56 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-18-2017 12:56 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 05:50 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 03:16 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(01-17-2017 02:21 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Good decision to put the Charlotte game first. App fans do you expect you will have completed stadium expansion by 2025?

Plan (likely) includes relocating the track, a tear down & rebuild of our field house in the north endzone, addition of club seats in that endzone, and additional seating along both sidelines. I'd be willing to guess all in, this would bring our official capacity to 28-29k, maybe more depending on exactly what they do. Actual capacity should be 33-35k.

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

Good to hear. A lot of silly angst among ECU fans about playing a game in Boone but it will be fun and by 2025 you guys will have been FBS for a full decade. I'd have had an issue if we had like agreed to go to Boone within the first couple of years you were up or something but by 2025 you guys are going to be a firmly established FBS program.

G5 AAC ECU has a problem playing in Boone within our first few years in FBS, but P5 ACC Miami and Wake don't? ?

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Do you think either of those 2 want or care about the allotment of tickets you were able to offer them? You are taking this as a shot at your program and it's not. This is just about logistics there's probably no way that at your current capacity you'd be able to offer the visitor allotment we would want/need to play that game. By 2025 I doubt that's a problem. If I'm wrong though tell me do you think it would be possible with your current stadium configuration to reserve 4 to 5k seats as our allotment?

Don't get me wrong here. It is expressly because we can't accommodate a fan base like ECU's that I have been very aggressive calling for expansion (and elimination of the track & bank) for many years. But that isn't the vibe being put out by a lot of ECU fans and your comment. I'm hearing more along the lines that App hasn't paid sufficient dues in order to host someone like ECU. No question ECU is far ahead of App in stadium size, attendance and fund raising. But the two programs are a lot closer on the field than most ECU fans will admit. It's quite clear a large portion of ECU folks thinks little brother App needs to show more respect to big brother ECU. I wonder if App had a 35K SEAT stadium would your comment have been different? If not you are being more than just a tad hypocritical considering it would be equal to or larger than 5 stadiums ECU has played in over the past several years.