(12-23-2021 06:37 PM)bucfan81 Wrote:  

(12-23-2021 06:27 PM)BUC21 Wrote:  From the press conference it almost seems like a good ole boy hire on Carter's part.

Let us just hope the it works out and he becomes a great coach. That is all we can do as we have a championship team that will return about 90% of the players next year. Go Bucs and lets hope for the best!

I would bet 90% is a high number and you always have to look at what is being lost.

(12-23-2021 08:02 PM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  

(12-23-2021 06:37 PM)bucfan81 Wrote:  

(12-23-2021 06:27 PM)BUC21 Wrote:  From the press conference it almost seems like a good ole boy hire on Carter's part.

Let us just hope the it works out and he becomes a great coach. That is all we can do as we have a championship team that will return about 90% of the players next year. Go Bucs and lets hope for the best!

I would bet 90% is a high number and you always have to look at what is being lost.

Yes that is a guess but my point was that most players are underclassmen. More that half the team was freshmen or red-shirt freshmen. A few players are being lost but most are coming back. Of course with the new coach, who knows? If we couple good recruiting with smart transfers this team should be able to go even further next year. The running back tandem of Saylors and Irby will be first rate. I am hoping Coach can get enough current coaches to stay to win another championship next year. One word we should never hear from him is "rebuild". This foundation of a team is laid out and we just need to move it to the next level.

Moving to next level? Bucs had a miracle season. Very much like the 2018 season. The Bucs are not dominating the SoCon. Thankfully they are setting winning records and winning championships but they are literally winning by the thinnest of margins. I may be off a little but I think the numbers were, of the last 20 conference games and the playoff game against Kennesaw, Bucs margin of victory was less than 7 points. Game after game, the football bounced in crazy ways that snatched victory from defeat. Bucs could have easily lost 5 games this year. To move to the next level, I presume you mean FCS Championship level. To get there, Bucs have to go through the MVC, Big Sky and CAA. SoCon doesn't, at this time, have any team capable of doing that. Those conferences are on a much higher level of competition.

(12-23-2021 09:47 PM)Buc76 Wrote:  Moving to next level? Bucs had a miracle season. Very much like the 2018 season. The Bucs are not dominating the SoCon. Thankfully they are setting winning records and winning championships but they are literally winning by the thinnest of margins. I may be off a little but I think the numbers were, of the last 20 conference games and the playoff game against Kennesaw, Bucs margin of victory was less than 7 points. Game after game, the football bounced in crazy ways that snatched victory from defeat. Bucs could have easily lost 5 games this year. To move to the next level, I presume you mean FCS Championship level. To get there, Bucs have to go through the MVC, Big Sky and CAA. SoCon doesn't, at this time, have any team capable of doing that. Those conferences are on a much higher level of competition.

This, the Buc's won but they were not the dominant team in the conference.
A bounce this way or that and people would have been calling for Sanders head.
Just all the bounces went ETSU's way

(12-23-2021 09:47 PM)Buc76 Wrote:  Moving to next level? Bucs had a miracle season. Very much like the 2018 season. The Bucs are not dominating the SoCon. Thankfully they are setting winning records and winning championships but they are literally winning by the thinnest of margins. I may be off a little but I think the numbers were, of the last 20 conference games and the playoff game against Kennesaw, Bucs margin of victory was less than 7 points. Game after game, the football bounced in crazy ways that snatched victory from defeat. Bucs could have easily lost 5 games this year. To move to the next level, I presume you mean FCS Championship level. To get there, Bucs have to go through the MVC, Big Sky and CAA. SoCon doesn't, at this time, have any team capable of doing that. Those conferences are on a much higher level of competition.

OK maybe the next two levels.

(12-23-2021 10:00 PM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  

(12-23-2021 09:47 PM)Buc76 Wrote:  Moving to next level? Bucs had a miracle season. Very much like the 2018 season. The Bucs are not dominating the SoCon. Thankfully they are setting winning records and winning championships but they are literally winning by the thinnest of margins. I may be off a little but I think the numbers were, of the last 20 conference games and the playoff game against Kennesaw, Bucs margin of victory was less than 7 points. Game after game, the football bounced in crazy ways that snatched victory from defeat. Bucs could have easily lost 5 games this year. To move to the next level, I presume you mean FCS Championship level. To get there, Bucs have to go through the MVC, Big Sky and CAA. SoCon doesn't, at this time, have any team capable of doing that. Those conferences are on a much higher level of competition.

This, the Buc's won but they were not the dominant team in the conference.
A bounce this way or that and people would have been calling for Sanders head.
Just all the bounces went ETSU's way

Bucs need to keep recruiting better and move up to the dominating level. We are a lot closer than we were 5 years ago.

I haven't read all the threads above about Quarles, but at first glance I don't like the hire.

Your thoughts align with many, many Buc fans.

Quarles hire didn't check a single requirement for a FCS head coach, but it checked Scott Carters requirement[/align] and that's all that mattered.

(12-23-2021 07:22 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(12-23-2021 07:19 PM)etsuBucsFan1988 Wrote:  This is going to be an interesting thread to revisit a few years from now.

Can someone pull up the talk going on here when Sanders was hired?

Sanders hiring thread:

https://www.csnbbs.com/thread-837481.html

(12-24-2021 03:30 AM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote:  

(12-23-2021 07:22 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(12-23-2021 07:19 PM)etsuBucsFan1988 Wrote:  This is going to be an interesting thread to revisit a few years from now.

Can someone pull up the talk going on here when Sanders was hired?

Sanders hiring thread:

https://www.csnbbs.com/thread-837481.html

Ha! I stopped at “He’s Derek Dooley without the head coaching experience.”

We fans act like we know we everything, and history should persuade us that we don’t.

(12-24-2021 12:49 AM)Buc76 Wrote:  Your thoughts align with many, many Buc fans.

Quarles hire didn't check a single requirement for a FCS head coach, but it checked Scott Carters requirement[/align] and that's all that mattered.

I don’t know enough of the specifics to make a call about this guy’s qualifications. I was for Billy Taylor to be named the same day Sanders announced his retirement to keep this party going. Per a number of comments here, if this is a bad hire then Scott Carter was a bad hire.

(12-24-2021 07:50 AM)prosec34 Wrote:  

(12-24-2021 03:30 AM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote:  

(12-23-2021 07:22 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(12-23-2021 07:19 PM)etsuBucsFan1988 Wrote:  This is going to be an interesting thread to revisit a few years from now.

Can someone pull up the talk going on here when Sanders was hired?

Sanders hiring thread:

https://www.csnbbs.com/thread-837481.html

Ha! I stopped at “He’s Derek Dooley without the head coaching experience.”

We fans act like we know we everything, and history should persuade us that we don’t.

Buccaneerlover was a true Sanders hater. He’s since disappeared. I was hoping he might be lurking and would weigh in on this hire.

OK, I get it. High school and college football are obviously two entirely different animals. But, how was the Maryville High School program RESTOCKED year in and year out? Players had four years of eligibility as well. Did star players/families move into that district to help keep the program stocked? How many of his Maryville players received college athletic scholarships upon graduation over his 18 years? Why did Furman hire him as associate head coach — they usually hire quality people across their athletics? At 54 years old, if he elevates this program into a powerhouse, even moves it to FBS ball — will he stay put and retire here?


Maryville High School head football coach for 18 years
His teams made 15 trips to the BlueCross Bowl State Championships
Captured 11 TSSAA State Championships
Record of 250 wins and only 16 losses
From 2004 – 2008 his teams held a 74-game winning streak and won 4 consecutive state championships
From 2013 – 2015 his teams won 44 games in a row
Coached 8 teams to an undefeated season
Lost only 9 of his last 249 games
Twice selected to coach in the U. S. Army All-American Bowl
Seven-time State Coach of the Year selection
Tennessee Titans Coach of the Year in 2005
PrepXtra Coach of the Year in 2005 and 2013
Inducted into the Tennessee Sports Hall of Fame in 2018
Left Maryville after the 2016 season to become Associate Head Coach and Offensive Coordinator at his alma mater, Furman University.

Maryville has been much like Alcoa in that people would move into the district to send their “talented” kid to the school. So they’ve benefitted from such things.

But it wasn’t that way for Maryville prior to Quarels joining the staff. I lived in Blount County in the 90s while I went to UT, and the Rebels weren’t anything special then. They got crazy good as soon as I came back home. And they stayed great. Quarels can lay claim to building and maintaining a great program. No, it ain’t like he did it on the college level, but we’re not in the running for a coach with such a resume.

This could turn out to be a home run of a hire. More likely, it’s not. You just never know. But based on him proving himself as a good head coach at a high level of high school, at least we have that evidence. And he seems to be a good man whom parents would find is a worthy supervisor of their children. He has the respect of Tennessee high school coaches, so right there he’s liable to recruit well in-state. At least I hope. I’m fully content to give him my confidence.

(12-24-2021 08:32 AM)MTBuc Wrote:  

(12-24-2021 07:50 AM)prosec34 Wrote:  

(12-24-2021 03:30 AM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote:  

(12-23-2021 07:22 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(12-23-2021 07:19 PM)etsuBucsFan1988 Wrote:  This is going to be an interesting thread to revisit a few years from now.

Can someone pull up the talk going on here when Sanders was hired?

Sanders hiring thread:

https://www.csnbbs.com/thread-837481.html

Ha! I stopped at “He’s Derek Dooley without the head coaching experience.”

We fans act like we know we everything, and history should persuade us that we don’t.

Buccaneerlover was a true Sanders hater. He’s since disappeared. I was hoping he might be lurking and would weigh in on this hire.

Yikes! If GQ is as successful, and others on here follow suit, then we may not have any bodies on here in the future

(12-23-2021 07:54 PM)MTBuc Wrote:  

(12-23-2021 07:20 PM)Buc76 Wrote:  This was definitely a Scott Carter hire. Dr Noland made it clear that in his many discussions, Carter continually came back to Quarles evertime. Carter also said in his introductory remarks, how he looked up to Quarles for years and now had a chance to work with him.

IMO, Carter was intent on hiring Quarles day one. The national search and name dropping was nothing but an obligatory smoke screen.

Quarles even said in the press conference that he wasn’t looking for this. Scott pursued him. I think you’re completely accurate here.

Forbes said the same thing

(12-24-2021 11:39 AM)etsuBucsFan1988 Wrote:  

(12-23-2021 07:54 PM)MTBuc Wrote:  

(12-23-2021 07:20 PM)Buc76 Wrote:  This was definitely a Scott Carter hire. Dr Noland made it clear that in his many discussions, Carter continually came back to Quarles evertime. Carter also said in his introductory remarks, how he looked up to Quarles for years and now had a chance to work with him.

IMO, Carter was intent on hiring Quarles day one. The national search and name dropping was nothing but an obligatory smoke screen.

Quarles even said in the press conference that he wasn’t looking for this. Scott pursued him. I think you’re completely accurate here.

Forbes said the same thing

We all understand why Forbes was pursued by why in the world was Quarles pursued?

Scott Carter didn't persue Forbes, Dr Sander and Dr Noland went after Forbes.

(12-26-2021 12:20 AM)Buc76 Wrote:  Scott Carter didn't persue Forbes, Dr Sander and Dr Noland went after Forbes.

True.

(12-26-2021 11:03 AM)bucfan81 Wrote:  

(12-26-2021 12:20 AM)Buc76 Wrote:  Scott Carter didn't persue Forbes, Dr Sander and Dr Noland went after Forbes.

True.

https://www.newportplaintalk.com/sports/...ef9cf.html