They have agreed to three schools. The fourth is the issue.

(10-14-2021 09:52 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  They have agreed to three schools. The fourth is the issue.

UAB, Rice, Charlotte?

(10-14-2021 09:57 AM)shizzle787 Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:52 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  They have agreed to three schools. The fourth is the issue.

UAB, Rice, Charlotte?

I am not at liberty to say. Its not what many think. It boils down to financial commitment and facilities. When it all comes out you will be able to see the bread crumbs.

(10-14-2021 09:00 AM)shizzle787 Wrote:  It seems to me (like others have said) they are feeling out who to add and how many. My guess is that they will add 4. UAB seems like a lock. Charlotte is gaining steam. They need another Texas team for Navy (Rice). The holdup is probably who team #4 is. My guess is it is between Marshall, ODU, App State, and Buffalo. I have a feeling the AAC wants to avoid state directionals.

A conference with CENTRAL Florida, EAST Carolina, SOUTH Florida is concerned with "directional" names?

(10-14-2021 09:02 AM)ODU-Z8 Wrote:  It's also logistics.

Presidents probably need meetings with each other, and need meetings with their own AD's and Board of Directors, to hash out things.

For example, Marshall, whose name has bounced around a lot in realignment threads. I'm sure there is much internal discussion on whether it's a good move, if they can afford to and where that money will come from, and perhaps who else is coming with them to make the move worthwhile. Which means waiting on another school's decision, etc. Getting all the ducks in a row before anything official.

Meanwhile the AAC has to wait on Marshall (for example) to determine whether they want to, or whether they can, before they can relay that info to other schools or make their other decisions, based on what's best for what they're trying to achieve.

Look at the message boards, we have discussed this a lot amongst ourselves. The schools need to do it even moreso, honestly hahah armed with more reliable information but also more politics

We're also trying to hire a new University President and a new Athletic Director... not the best time for a conference change honestly

(10-14-2021 10:00 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:00 AM)shizzle787 Wrote:  It seems to me (like others have said) they are feeling out who to add and how many. My guess is that they will add 4. UAB seems like a lock. Charlotte is gaining steam. They need another Texas team for Navy (Rice). The holdup is probably who team #4 is. My guess is it is between Marshall, ODU, App State, and Buffalo. I have a feeling the AAC wants to avoid state directionals.

A conference with CENTRAL Florida, EAST Carolina, SOUTH Florida is concerned with "directional" names?

That's 3/11. USF was added in the Big East and UCF is leaving. Only 2/8 remaining schools are directionals.

(10-14-2021 10:00 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:57 AM)shizzle787 Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:52 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  They have agreed to three schools. The fourth is the issue.

UAB, Rice, Charlotte?

I am not at liberty to say. Its not what many think. It boils down to financial commitment and facilities. When it all comes out you will be able to see the bread crumbs.

LOL so it is those three.

It's obviously UAB, UNT, Charlotte, and ODU. In that order.

(10-14-2021 10:00 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:57 AM)shizzle787 Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:52 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  They have agreed to three schools. The fourth is the issue.

UAB, Rice, Charlotte?

I am not at liberty to say. Its not what many think. It boils down to financial commitment and facilities. When it all comes out you will be able to see the bread crumbs.

Means he doesn't know zilch.

(10-14-2021 10:03 AM)shizzle787 Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 10:00 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:00 AM)shizzle787 Wrote:  It seems to me (like others have said) they are feeling out who to add and how many. My guess is that they will add 4. UAB seems like a lock. Charlotte is gaining steam. They need another Texas team for Navy (Rice). The holdup is probably who team #4 is. My guess is it is between Marshall, ODU, App State, and Buffalo. I have a feeling the AAC wants to avoid state directionals.

A conference with CENTRAL Florida, EAST Carolina, SOUTH Florida is concerned with "directional" names?

That's 3/11. USF was added in the Big East and UCF is leaving. Only 2/8 remaining schools are directionals.

South FL
East Carolina
Southern Methodist

(10-14-2021 10:03 AM)shizzle787 Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 10:00 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:00 AM)shizzle787 Wrote:  It seems to me (like others have said) they are feeling out who to add and how many. My guess is that they will add 4. UAB seems like a lock. Charlotte is gaining steam. They need another Texas team for Navy (Rice). The holdup is probably who team #4 is. My guess is it is between Marshall, ODU, App State, and Buffalo. I have a feeling the AAC wants to avoid state directionals.

A conference with CENTRAL Florida, EAST Carolina, SOUTH Florida is concerned with "directional" names?

That's 3/11. USF was added in the Big East and UCF is leaving. Only 2/8 remaining schools are directionals.

University of South Florida, Southern Methodist University, East Carolina University will remain.

Again, why would the current Presidents say "directional" is an immediate disqualifier when nearly 40% of their membership are directional?

I suspect they are working with ESPN on models based on teams to see what gets them the best money.

(10-14-2021 10:00 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  It boils down to financial commitment and facilities. When it all comes out you will be able to see the bread crumbs.

Makes no sense.

Why would anyone go ALL IN financially to a conference that may look radically different before the start of the next football season?

(10-14-2021 08:38 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  We're all making the assumption that the AAC will eventually have to add teams. We all know there are teams willing to sell their school's presidents children to get into the conference. It's been over a month now since the Big XII bitchslapped the AAC and took who they wanted. Two weeks since the MWC bitchslapped the AAC and told them hands off!

So what is really going on over in AAC land? What is the hold up with inviting programs?

Schools balking at entry fees...AAC is a wounded animal not really negotiating from a position of strength. Although, Judy with her letter threw him a lifeline.

Believe the MAC had conversations with Marshall, JMU and UMass per a post on the MAC board. The president said the future of UMass football will be discussed at the end of the season and both the AD and HC have specifically mentioned the MAC and a need for a conference home and Walt Bell said a financial commitment to be in a conference. Don't expect any changes with the MAC, but everyone is being prudent. Will add, even though not very good, taking UConn-UMass adds a built in rivalry but has to be FB only as UConn is not leaving the Big East.

(10-14-2021 08:38 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  We're all making the assumption that the AAC will eventually have to add teams. We all know there are teams willing to sell their school's presidents children to get into the conference. It's been over a month now since the Big XII bitchslapped the AAC and took who they wanted. Two weeks since the MWC bitchslapped the AAC and told them hands off!

So what is really going on over in AAC land? What is the hold up with inviting programs?

Our President's daughter is currently attending Ole Miss, so we might just give her away, no charge!

(10-14-2021 09:30 AM)topper1296 Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:10 AM)freshtop Wrote:  My gut tells me it will be UAB and Rice to start. I think Buffalo will get a hard look as well, if ESPN agrees they add value. After that its a real crapshoot.

My guess is that Rice is hoping for the MWC since that seems to me a more stable conference than the AAC. I'm thinking the MWC takes 2 from CUSA in TX with Rice and UTSA/UNT (but not UTEP even though it makes the most sense from a location standpoint) and then the AAC takes 2 from CUSA with UAB being one of them. Then CUSA adds JMU and Liberty.

I’ll preface by saying I like both UAB/Charlotte and would prefer to keep them. But if we could land JMU and Liberty, at least from a football standpoint that has to be break even. JMU might be FCS but they’re a perennial power in those ranks and I think they’d transition quite well. Liberty has been good since they transitioned and seem to have all the money in the world.

(10-14-2021 10:12 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 10:03 AM)shizzle787 Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 10:00 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:00 AM)shizzle787 Wrote:  It seems to me (like others have said) they are feeling out who to add and how many. My guess is that they will add 4. UAB seems like a lock. Charlotte is gaining steam. They need another Texas team for Navy (Rice). The holdup is probably who team #4 is. My guess is it is between Marshall, ODU, App State, and Buffalo. I have a feeling the AAC wants to avoid state directionals.

A conference with CENTRAL Florida, EAST Carolina, SOUTH Florida is concerned with "directional" names?

That's 3/11. USF was added in the Big East and UCF is leaving. Only 2/8 remaining schools are directionals.

University of South Florida, Southern Methodist University, East Carolina University will remain.

Again, why would the current Presidents say "directional" is an immediate disqualifier when nearly 40% of their membership are directional?

Agreed on directional names. Still not sure how that rag institution with bad academics known as Southern Cal got into the PAC-12. #sarcasm

(10-14-2021 10:21 AM)Johns1124 Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 10:00 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  It boils down to financial commitment and facilities. When it all comes out you will be able to see the bread crumbs.

Makes no sense.

Why would anyone go ALL IN financially to a conference that may look radically different before the start of the next football season?

I don't think tbe AAC or any other conference will look radically different by next season. However, I do believe by 2024 the AAC will be CUSA 4.0 except under different leadership and with a similar team payout CUSA 2.0 had.

I also think the MWC will survive the loss of Boise and be better for it long term and the SBC will also become a stronger conference.

For now, I think Aresco is stuck between a rock and a hard place right now.

(10-14-2021 10:00 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:57 AM)shizzle787 Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:52 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  They have agreed to three schools. The fourth is the issue.

UAB, Rice, Charlotte?

I am not at liberty to say. Its not what many think. It boils down to financial commitment and facilities. When it all comes out you will be able to see the bread crumbs.

If thats the case I like ODU's chances as good as anyone other than UAB and UNT. Unless they want Liberty.