https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/spo...rado-state

MWC commissioner claims he's heard the loss of 3 drops AAC value to mid 40s. That would be a little over $5 million a school.

This is amid the speculation that Air Force and Colorado St. are talking with the AAC.

(09-20-2021 07:01 PM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/spo...rado-state

MWC commissioner claims he's heard the loss of 3 drops AAC value to mid 40s. That would be a little over $5 million a school.

This is amid the speculation that Air Force and Colorado St. are talking with the AAC.

It's also a very safe assumption he's throwing out the lowest number he's heard. Considering the tone of that article he's certainly not throwing out the ceiling of AAC TV numbers. The fact that his lowball number in his spinning interview he threw out there is less than what the MWC makes by his own admission is a pretty bad sign.

(09-20-2021 07:01 PM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/spo...rado-state

MWC commissioner claims he's heard the loss of 3 drops AAC value to mid 40s. That would be a little over $5 million a school.

This is amid the speculation that Air Force and Colorado St. are talking with the AAC.

Lulz, my man is in full panic mode.

That's still a pretty good deal. If accurate that would put the AAC still well ahead of everyone else.

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(09-20-2021 07:10 PM)mlb Wrote:  That's still a pretty good deal. If accurate that would put the AAC still well ahead of everyone else.

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Not well ahead, but slightly ahead, and makes me feel much better that my concerns about the deal being slashed to 2-3 million a year aren't likely rooted in any reality. If he thought that was possible you best believe he'd be throwing that out there that the MWC could be making more money than the AAC after this.

(09-20-2021 07:13 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 07:10 PM)mlb Wrote:  That's still a pretty good deal. If accurate that would put the AAC still well ahead of everyone else.

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Not well ahead, but slightly ahead, and makes me feel much better that my concerns about the deal being slashed to 2-3 million a year aren't likely rooted in any reality. If he thought that was possible you best believe he'd be throwing that out there that the MWC could be making more money than the AAC after this.

I thought the MWC is about $3m per. Am I wrong?

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That sounds lowball to me.

IMO, Cincy/Houston/UCF are just not that much more valuable than other AAC schools. It's not like we're losing Texas, Oklahoma and Notre Dame. They're just Houston, Cincy and UCF.

So I suspect some spinning is going on here to protect the MW.

(09-20-2021 07:01 PM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/spo...rado-state

MWC commissioner claims he's heard the loss of 3 drops AAC value to mid 40s. That would be a little over $5 million a school.

This is amid the speculation that Air Force and Colorado St. are talking with the AAC.

Yeah 5.6ish? Not terrible considering we were down to 2 for a few years when we had to build credibility back up. What's the current payout, 6.5 or something? Don't get me wrong, it would stink, but losing ~1m on a 60m budget isn't a huge deal.

I'm sure that gross number would be adjusted if we insert more content, at least to keep the same per team amount.

(09-20-2021 07:15 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 07:13 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 07:10 PM)mlb Wrote:  That's still a pretty good deal. If accurate that would put the AAC still well ahead of everyone else.

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Not well ahead, but slightly ahead, and makes me feel much better that my concerns about the deal being slashed to 2-3 million a year aren't likely rooted in any reality. If he thought that was possible you best believe he'd be throwing that out there that the MWC could be making more money than the AAC after this.

I thought the MWC is about $3m per. Am I wrong?

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It's about $4M annually per school.

MWC > AAC

(09-20-2021 07:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  That sounds lowball to me.

IMO, Cincy/Houston/UCF are just not that much more valuable than other AAC schools. It's not like we're losing Texas, Oklahoma and Notre Dame. They're just Houston, Cincy and UCF.

So I suspect some spinning is going on here to protect the MW.

Those brands lost are still much better than any potential adds such as UAB, AFA and Colorado St.

Those brands are also much better than Memphis, SMU and USF. Clearly.

The only spin I see is from your end.

(09-20-2021 07:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  That sounds lowball to me.

IMO, Cincy/Houston/UCF are just not that much more valuable than other AAC schools. It's not like we're losing Texas, Oklahoma and Notre Dame. They're just Houston, Cincy and UCF.

So I suspect some spinning is going on here to protect the MW.

Sorry, UCF, Houston and Cincy are three of the four best teams in the AAC. That is a huge hit. It would be for any conference. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

(09-20-2021 08:20 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 07:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  That sounds lowball to me.

IMO, Cincy/Houston/UCF are just not that much more valuable than other AAC schools. It's not like we're losing Texas, Oklahoma and Notre Dame. They're just Houston, Cincy and UCF.

So I suspect some spinning is going on here to protect the MW.

Sorry, UCF, Houston and Cincy are three of the four best teams in the AAC. That is a huge hit. It would be for any conference. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

I guess maybe I'm in the spin zone too, but seems kind of self-fulfilling. If the Big 12 had picked up Houston, SMU, and USF, people would be calling those three the best brands and would be pointing out "how much population you're losing" or something dumb.

(09-20-2021 08:26 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 08:20 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 07:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  That sounds lowball to me.

IMO, Cincy/Houston/UCF are just not that much more valuable than other AAC schools. It's not like we're losing Texas, Oklahoma and Notre Dame. They're just Houston, Cincy and UCF.

So I suspect some spinning is going on here to protect the MW.

Sorry, UCF, Houston and Cincy are three of the four best teams in the AAC. That is a huge hit. It would be for any conference. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

I guess maybe I'm in the spin zone too, but seems kind of self-fulfilling. If the Big 12 had picked up Houston, SMU, and USF, people would be calling those three the best brands and would be pointing out "how much population you're losing" or something dumb.

I’m pretty sure we would all be scratching our heads and asking why SMU over Cincy and why USF over UCF. And I prefer USF as an institution, but man did they squander a huge opportunity.

(09-20-2021 08:26 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 08:20 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 07:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  That sounds lowball to me.

IMO, Cincy/Houston/UCF are just not that much more valuable than other AAC schools. It's not like we're losing Texas, Oklahoma and Notre Dame. They're just Houston, Cincy and UCF.

So I suspect some spinning is going on here to protect the MW.

Sorry, UCF, Houston and Cincy are three of the four best teams in the AAC. That is a huge hit. It would be for any conference. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

I guess maybe I'm in the spin zone too, but seems kind of self-fulfilling. If the Big 12 had picked up Houston, SMU, and USF, people would be calling those three the best brands and would be pointing out "how much population you're losing" or something dumb.

That didnt happen. Its a pointless “would, coulda, shoulda”.

(09-20-2021 07:52 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 07:15 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 07:13 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 07:10 PM)mlb Wrote:  That's still a pretty good deal. If accurate that would put the AAC still well ahead of everyone else.

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Not well ahead, but slightly ahead, and makes me feel much better that my concerns about the deal being slashed to 2-3 million a year aren't likely rooted in any reality. If he thought that was possible you best believe he'd be throwing that out there that the MWC could be making more money than the AAC after this.

I thought the MWC is about $3m per. Am I wrong?

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It's about $4M annually per school.

I keep seeing that figure and don’t know where it comes from. It’s been reported in the media that the MWC’s five year deal with CBS and Fox is worth $270 million, and all but about $2 million of that is split just 11 ways since Hawaii has a separate five-year PPV deal with Spectrum worth about $16 million. So doing the math, $268 million divided by five is $54 million per year, divided by 11 schools is $4.9 million per school. Boise State gets a larger cut (an extra $1.8 million per year) but even after accounting for that the remaining members should be receiving $4.5-$4.7 million per year. Perhaps they’re getting just $4 million now since they’re in the first year of the contract but if so it will escalate to over $5 million by the fifth year.

(09-20-2021 08:34 PM)PicksUp Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 08:26 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 08:20 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 07:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  That sounds lowball to me.

IMO, Cincy/Houston/UCF are just not that much more valuable than other AAC schools. It's not like we're losing Texas, Oklahoma and Notre Dame. They're just Houston, Cincy and UCF.

So I suspect some spinning is going on here to protect the MW.

Sorry, UCF, Houston and Cincy are three of the four best teams in the AAC. That is a huge hit. It would be for any conference. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

I guess maybe I'm in the spin zone too, but seems kind of self-fulfilling. If the Big 12 had picked up Houston, SMU, and USF, people would be calling those three the best brands and would be pointing out "how much population you're losing" or something dumb.

That didnt happen. Its a pointless “would, coulda, shoulda”.

I'm more saying that any three teams picked would be the most valuable and we'd be so much less valuable without those three.

(09-20-2021 08:55 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 07:52 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 07:15 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 07:13 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(09-20-2021 07:10 PM)mlb Wrote:  That's still a pretty good deal. If accurate that would put the AAC still well ahead of everyone else.

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Not well ahead, but slightly ahead, and makes me feel much better that my concerns about the deal being slashed to 2-3 million a year aren't likely rooted in any reality. If he thought that was possible you best believe he'd be throwing that out there that the MWC could be making more money than the AAC after this.

I thought the MWC is about $3m per. Am I wrong?

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It's about $4M annually per school.

I keep seeing that figure and don’t know where it comes from. It’s been reported in the media that the MWC’s five year deal with CBS and Fox is worth $270 million, and all but about $2 million of that is split just 11 ways since Hawaii has a separate five-year PPV deal with Spectrum worth about $16 million. So doing the math, $268 million divided by five is $54 million per year, divided by 11 schools is $4.9 million per school. Boise State gets a larger cut (an extra $1.8 million per year) but even after accounting for that the remaining members should be receiving $4.5-$4.7 million per year. Perhaps they’re getting just $4 million now since they’re in the first year of the contract but if so it will escalate to over $5 million by the fifth year.

Maybe it's not apples to apples. Maybe MWC fans are comparing their total conference distributions to AAC media payouts?

(09-20-2021 07:01 PM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/spo...rado-state

MWC commissioner claims he's heard the loss of 3 drops AAC value to mid 40s. That would be a little over $5 million a school.

This is amid the speculation that Air Force and Colorado St. are talking with the AAC.

Also, can we just stop to appreciate the Aresco move Thompson just made? Literally held a press conference to say that he doesn't hold press conferences to say what he's up to. Then takes a shot, including a friggin number, at the AAC deal that hasn't been re-negotiated yet. Top notch! +1

(09-20-2021 07:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  That sounds lowball to me.

IMO, Cincy/Houston/UCF are just not that much more valuable than other AAC schools. It's not like we're losing Texas, Oklahoma and Notre Dame. They're just Houston, Cincy and UCF.

So I suspect some spinning is going on here to protect the MW.

The question is whether it's 40's for 8 teams or for 10-12 teams. It's not so much that those three are more valuable than the remaining AAC teams, but that they are much more valuable than anyone available to replace them.