Side Show Joe
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RE: The 2020 Realignment Wars are Over...
(05-31-2020 07:09 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote: (05-31-2020 06:45 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote: (05-30-2020 10:57 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote: (05-30-2020 10:03 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote: (05-30-2020 09:28 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote: Fairly direct??? Common Joe, you're better than that. You didn't even come close to answering the question. Instead you tried your best to sidestep and tap dance around actually giving a direct answer. Try again ... here's the original question:
What is this rebellion you speak of, and what programs have "adamantly promoted the rebellion"?
That "what programs" part is where you would "directly" list them (by school name). It's your comments, your thoughts, and fans of the programs that you are asking if they are gonna "swallow their pride". Throw down the gauntlet on them if you are going to do that. Don't hide in the bushes and take vague pot shots at them. Tell us what schools you were talking about. Don't leave it up to us to guess at who you were talking about. Inquiring minds want to know. Actually be direct this time instead of just saying you were.
FYI - We all know now that the "rebellion" portion of the original question is programs that were "openly commenting in favor of scrapping of C-USA in favor of regional conferences". I copied that from your prior post, but you failed to identify any of those "programs" which was the second (and main) part of the question.
Since you need things spelled out for you.... ODU, the pilotonline, and any fans that took the realignment position.
2020
https://www.pilotonline.com/sports/colle...story.html
2018
https://www.pilotonline.com/sports/colum...8d137.html
2017
https://www.pilotonline.com/sports/colum...abcf2.html
The 2020 Realignment War is over, because bowl ties have been announced and actual AD's are commenting on how no realignment talks are taking place. Perhaps there will be another realignment war around 2025, but if those wanting to split C-USA can't do it in the current climate, then I doubt they can force the issue later.
I just want some insight into if ODU has a plan B, because all the reports indicate the Monarchs are not happy in C-USA.
It's not so much that I needed anything spelled out for me as it was that I don't like to assume things, especially when responding to something someone stated when they weren't specific about the details.
College "programs" are run by the college administrations, not by fans or beat writers for the local newspaper. For the most part, the fans are just along for the ride, and newspapers are in the business of selling copy.
I didn't see in the links you furnished where anyone that is employed by ODU has stated that ODU needed or wanted to leave C-USA. What I did see was an outside study (funded by ODU) that came back and stated that ODU had to tighten it's athletic budget and it listed the reasons why. The report also stated that Wrestling needed to be cut (and it was shortly thereafter cut). None of that is hardly earth shattering news if you have been paying attention to the numerous schools from various conferences around the country that have been cutting the number of games they will play, cutting multiple sports, cutting salaries, etc. in order to make payroll.
It is interesting that the most recent pilot article that quotes ODU Athletic Director Wood Selig talking about the schools in C-USA cutting costs (which you conveniently left out) stated the following:
Selig and the ADs from Rice, Texas El Paso, Louisiana Tech and Middle Tennessee State, along with a senior women’s administrator from Charlotte and a faculty athletic representative from Texas San Antonio, form the seven-person Future Planning Committee, which has been meeting virtually for about six weeks.
The committee is faced with the task of reducing expenses for C-USA member schools and the league itself in light of the coronavirus pandemic and its shutdown effect on college sports. It meets for the final time Tuesday afternoon, after which it will make formal recommendations to league ADs.
On May 22, the ADs will conclude their discussions, with the goal of sending final recommendations through the conference offices to the league’s 14 university presidents sometime in early June.
The committee, with research assistance from the league office and member schools’ chief financial officers, has discussed a three-pronged approach to trimming expenses, some of them more extreme than others.
The three cost-cutting initiatives the committee has examined:
• A change in regular-season scheduling for all sports, to include fewer games or more efficient travel with fewer flights. Divisional play based upon an east-west format within the expansive league has also been considered.
• A change in championship formats. The committee has discussed the possibility of reducing the number of participants in each sport’s conference tournament, as well as the cost of running a championship and the costs for schools to participate. Also considered are whether locations could be changed or events condensed by a day.
• Helping the conference cut expenses by holding more online meetings, as well as examining expenses for officials and other support provided by C-USA. Also, the conference could have consortiums, or “scheduling alliances,” with geographically adjacent leagues like the Sun Belt, the Atlantic 10 and the American Athletic Conference.
Selig said the committee has not discussed the possibility of any of C-USA’s members seeking a new conference affiliation, choosing instead to tweak the framework of the existing league.
https://www.pilotonline.com/sports/vp-sp...story.html
Whatever... Everyone on this board knows Harry Minimum is a "senior executive writer" for ODU athletics, and he wrote the first two articles I posted back when he was a hack for the pilotonline. Minimum's articles have helped to promote instability within C-USA. Why would ODU's athletic department bring in a writer that had recently published these negative articles about C-USA, if they did not support the same position?
https://odusports.com/staff-directory/harry-minium/265
You don't have connections in Norfolk? You can't find out about ODU's plan B? I guess there is no plan B.
Slow joe, you just disrespected an ODU elder son.
You call me "Slow", but I'm disrespectful....
Anyway, you didn't answer the questions... Why would ODU's athletic department bring in Minimum after he wrote those negative articles about C-USA, if they didn't agree with his position? Is their a plan B, and do you know about it?
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