There's a serious question as to whether the AAC members would prefer to add Boise, or Air Force or SDSU, given the fact that Boise might be inclined to view the AAC as a stepping stone to the P5 by 2026.
How realistic the idea is that Boise could get an invitation from the Big-12 as an all-sports member is somewhat debatable, however.
There is virtually 0 chance of Boise going to the P5. That being said, I don't see any MWC moving with the new deal. Add to that the only way Boise works for AAC is FB only, and $$$ does not add up.
That may indeed be the case.
However, if it is, it would limit the AAC's options to either adding a non-MWC FB team or staying with 11 FB programs and dealing with the consequences.
Sticking with 11 may not seem so bad right now, but it may start to next season, if or when there is a decline in AAC viewership due to the loss of UConn (MBB, WBB, in particular).
Beyond that, concerns about the future of the conference may be expected to escalate year after year, as the possibility of conference realignments in 2025-2026 draws nigh.
According to the original terms of the 12-year agreement, it has apparently been reported, the deal with ESPN would cease to apply if more than one remaining AAC member should follow UConn's lead and switch conferences.
Given that situation, and zero interest from MWC schools, the AAC may become more amenable to the idea of inviting a non-MWC team, such as Buffalo, within 2-3 years.
Adding a school is the most likely outcome if the NCAA does not permanently approve an 11 team league while playing a CCG.
jedclampett Wrote:Given that situation, and zero interest from MWC schools, the AAC may become more amenable to the idea of inviting a non-MWC team, such as Buffalo, within 2-3 years.
I think that is not only possible, but likely probable.
(This post was last modified: 01-12-2020 09:39 AM by goodknightfl.)
(01-11-2020 07:52 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: Alright ESPN, do your thing and get Boise State to the AAC.
I am with you i want the best available football program added to the AAC but lets be real, Boise burn their big east/AAC bridge long ago, I doubt we'll ever see Boise in the AAC.
ESPN cutting us all a bigger check will go a long way towards forgiveness
It certainly could, but would ESPN be prepared to boost the AAC members' payouts before the end of the 12-month contract deal?
If not, the AAC members might well prefer to add AF or SDSU FB, since they come a lot closer to matching the academic and overall profile of the conference.
The AAC would be content with the same money per school if it is the same before or after UConn left.
(This post was last modified: 01-12-2020 06:38 PM by sierrajip.)
There's a serious question as to whether the AAC members would prefer to add Boise, or Air Force or SDSU, given the fact that Boise might be inclined to view the AAC as a stepping stone to the P5 by 2026.
How realistic the idea is that Boise could get an invitation from the Big-12 as an all-sports member is somewhat debatable, however.
There is virtually 0 chance of Boise going to the P5. That being said, I don't see any MWC moving with the new deal. Add to that the only way Boise works for AAC is FB only, and $$$ does not add up.
That may indeed be the case.
However, if it is, it would limit the AAC's options to either adding a non-MWC FB team or staying with 11 FB programs and dealing with the consequences.
Sticking with 11 may not seem so bad right now, but it may start to next season, if or when there is a decline in AAC viewership due to the loss of UConn (MBB, WBB, in particular).
Beyond that, concerns about the future of the conference may be expected to escalate year after year, as the possibility of conference realignments in 2025-2026 draws nigh.
According to the original terms of the 12-year agreement, it has apparently been reported, the deal with ESPN would cease to apply if more than one remaining AAC member should follow UConn's lead and switch conferences.
Given that situation, and zero interest from MWC schools, the AAC may become more amenable to the idea of inviting a non-MWC team, such as Buffalo, within 2-3 years.
Pretty sure that “losing two teams” and triggering a renegotiation refers to the 12 schools that signed the original 2019 agreement. So adding a 12th team that wasn’t there in 2019 won’t matter with respect to your concerns of triggering a renegotiation.
New contract removes all motivation for BSU & other MWC schools to move to the AAC. While BSU & the MWC are significantly behind the AAC, they are close enough in TV revenue to have little motivation to move to the AAC.
(01-13-2020 11:37 AM)Pirate1 Wrote: How ESPN would it be if they picked the plums out of the MWC, placed them the AAC and sent the rest to Fox... problem solved.
I could see that. Solves the western time zone issue for ESPN not having inventory. They only have to pay for 1-3 of them. Kills off the good inventory that fox would have broadcast.
(01-13-2020 12:35 PM)Atlanta Wrote: New contract removes all motivation for BSU & other MWC schools to move to the AAC. While BSU & the MWC are significantly behind the AAC, they are close enough in TV revenue to have little motivation to move to the AAC.
Not sure....$3 million, more exposure with ESPN, AAC constantly in the ny6, and ABC games.
The TV $ keeps the AAC gap small but the geography will widen gap more. When you have to get on a plane to recruit you will have a hard time keeping up with those who can drive.
(01-11-2020 08:45 PM)sfink16 Wrote: So Boise is the tallest midget of the MWC and gets more money as a result of it. What happens if they go to the Pac 12 or Big 12 and become just another member, no longer the best team of the conference? Those close wins over the MWC teams may turn into losses in any A5 conference, making BSU an also-ran. If they go to the AAC, they may find themselves with more losses their too.
There's a serious question as to whether the AAC members would prefer to add Boise, or Air Force or SDSU, given the fact that Boise might be inclined to view the AAC as a stepping stone to the P5 by 2026.
Yeah, but raise your hand if.....wait no....raise your hand if your team DOESN'T view the AAC as a stepping stone to the P5.
(01-11-2020 07:52 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote: Alright ESPN, do your thing and get Boise State to the AAC.
I am with you i want the best available football program added to the AAC but lets be real, Boise burn their big east/AAC bridge long ago, I doubt we'll ever see Boise in the AAC.
ESPN cutting us all a bigger check will go a long way towards forgiveness
Guess if we get a nice check UConn will be welcomed back with open arms as well. Long live the ConFLiCT
(This post was last modified: 01-13-2020 01:22 PM by GoOwls111.)
There's a serious question as to whether the AAC members would prefer to add Boise, or Air Force or SDSU, given the fact that Boise might be inclined to view the AAC as a stepping stone to the P5 by 2026.
How realistic the idea is that Boise could get an invitation from the Big-12 as an all-sports member is somewhat debatable, however.
There is virtually 0 chance of Boise going to the P5. That being said, I don't see any MWC moving with the new deal. Add to that the only way Boise works for AAC is FB only, and $$$ does not add up.
That may indeed be the case.
However, if it is, it would limit the AAC's options to either adding a non-MWC FB team or staying with 11 FB programs and dealing with the consequences.
Sticking with 11 may not seem so bad right now, but it may start to next season, if or when there is a decline in AAC viewership due to the loss of UConn (MBB, WBB, in particular).
Beyond that, concerns about the future of the conference may be expected to escalate year after year, as the possibility of conference realignments in 2025-2026 draws nigh.
According to the original terms of the 12-year agreement, it has apparently been reported, the deal with ESPN would cease to apply if more than one remaining AAC member should follow UConn's lead and switch conferences.
Given that situation, and zero interest from MWC schools, the AAC may become more amenable to the idea of inviting a non-MWC team, such as Buffalo, within 2-3 years.
Adding a school is the most likely outcome if the NCAA does not permanently approve an 11 team league while playing a CCG.
Any Conference can play a CCG with a minimum of 10 teams, the NCAA has rules on how to do that.
Playing with 11 Members is no different than playing with 10, 12, 13, 14 and whatever... Just follow the rules.
There's a serious question as to whether the AAC members would prefer to add Boise, or Air Force or SDSU, given the fact that Boise might be inclined to view the AAC as a stepping stone to the P5 by 2026.
How realistic the idea is that Boise could get an invitation from the Big-12 as an all-sports member is somewhat debatable, however.
There is virtually 0 chance of Boise going to the P5. That being said, I don't see any MWC moving with the new deal. Add to that the only way Boise works for AAC is FB only, and $$$ does not add up.
That may indeed be the case.
However, if it is, it would limit the AAC's options to either adding a non-MWC FB team or staying with 11 FB programs and dealing with the consequences.
Sticking with 11 may not seem so bad right now, but it may start to next season, if or when there is a decline in AAC viewership due to the loss of UConn (MBB, WBB, in particular).
Beyond that, concerns about the future of the conference may be expected to escalate year after year, as the possibility of conference realignments in 2025-2026 draws nigh.
According to the original terms of the 12-year agreement, it has apparently been reported, the deal with ESPN would cease to apply if more than one remaining AAC member should follow UConn's lead and switch conferences.
Given that situation, and zero interest from MWC schools, the AAC may become more amenable to the idea of inviting a non-MWC team, such as Buffalo, within 2-3 years.
Pretty sure that “losing two teams” and triggering a renegotiation refers to the 12 schools that signed the original 2019 agreement. So adding a 12th team that wasn’t there in 2019 won’t matter with respect to your concerns of triggering a renegotiation.
Oh good, then ESPiN is forced to look in and renegotiate if, for augment sake, Tulsa leaves... Money grab for the AAC.
(01-11-2020 10:06 PM)jedclampett Wrote: There's a serious question as to whether the AAC members would prefer to add Boise, or Air Force or SDSU, given the fact that Boise might be inclined to view the AAC as a stepping stone to the P5 by 2026.
How realistic the idea is that Boise could get an invitation from the Big-12 as an all-sports member is somewhat debatable, however.
There is virtually 0 chance of Boise going to the P5. That being said, I don't see any MWC moving with the new deal. Add to that the only way Boise works for AAC is FB only, and $$$ does not add up.
That may indeed be the case.
However, if it is, it would limit the AAC's options to either adding a non-MWC FB team or staying with 11 FB programs and dealing with the consequences.
Sticking with 11 may not seem so bad right now, but it may start to next season, if or when there is a decline in AAC viewership due to the loss of UConn (MBB, WBB, in particular).
Beyond that, concerns about the future of the conference may be expected to escalate year after year, as the possibility of conference realignments in 2025-2026 draws nigh.
According to the original terms of the 12-year agreement, it has apparently been reported, the deal with ESPN would cease to apply if more than one remaining AAC member should follow UConn's lead and switch conferences.
Given that situation, and zero interest from MWC schools, the AAC may become more amenable to the idea of inviting a non-MWC team, such as Buffalo, within 2-3 years.
Adding a school is the most likely outcome if the NCAA does not permanently approve an 11 team league while playing a CCG.
Any Conference can play a CCG with a minimum of 10 teams, the NCAA has rules on how to do that.
Playing with 11 Members is no different than playing with 10, 12, 13, 14 and whatever... Just follow the rules.
(01-13-2020 12:35 PM)Atlanta Wrote: New contract removes all motivation for BSU & other MWC schools to move to the AAC. While BSU & the MWC are significantly behind the AAC, they are close enough in TV revenue to have little motivation to move to the AAC.
Sure it does... The Mountain West schools should be happy making half of what the AAC makes... But none of the members of the AAC should ever be happy making half of the ACC, PAC, or Big XII?
Very sound logic... I don't believe for a second that any of the MW members are happy including BSU, and the rest of the league is definitely not happy with the BSU arrangement.
(01-12-2020 01:21 AM)goodknightfl Wrote: There is virtually 0 chance of Boise going to the P5. That being said, I don't see any MWC moving with the new deal. Add to that the only way Boise works for AAC is FB only, and $$$ does not add up.
That may indeed be the case.
However, if it is, it would limit the AAC's options to either adding a non-MWC FB team or staying with 11 FB programs and dealing with the consequences.
Sticking with 11 may not seem so bad right now, but it may start to next season, if or when there is a decline in AAC viewership due to the loss of UConn (MBB, WBB, in particular).
Beyond that, concerns about the future of the conference may be expected to escalate year after year, as the possibility of conference realignments in 2025-2026 draws nigh.
According to the original terms of the 12-year agreement, it has apparently been reported, the deal with ESPN would cease to apply if more than one remaining AAC member should follow UConn's lead and switch conferences.
Given that situation, and zero interest from MWC schools, the AAC may become more amenable to the idea of inviting a non-MWC team, such as Buffalo, within 2-3 years.
Adding a school is the most likely outcome if the NCAA does not permanently approve an 11 team league while playing a CCG.
Any Conference can play a CCG with a minimum of 10 teams, the NCAA has rules on how to do that.
Playing with 11 Members is no different than playing with 10, 12, 13, 14 and whatever... Just follow the rules.
Why can't some folks understand this?
Logically I can't explain that, but I will take an educated guess... The same reason that so many people believe everything that Nancy Pelosi and CNN say is the truth...
(This post was last modified: 01-13-2020 01:50 PM by GoOwls111.)
A Boise TV station weighs in on the MWC deal. No mention of AAC.
I don't see Boise leaving the MWC as I don't see a P5 bid coming. I think negotiating the MWC, Boise and Hawaii is a bit much for all involved. Boise does help raise the profile of the MWC, so I think they will still find a way to appease them.
I do wonder without ESPN's pull, what will Boise's scheduling look like? They are the ones that line up the marquee match ups like FSU etc. The more P5 teams you beat, the less they all like to play you.
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