There is not a single Conference USA, MAC, or Sunbelt team that adds enough value to not dilute, so anybody who is offering up a team from one of them... please stop. It wont happen. Were not gonna add some team just to get to 12, so we can reduce our payouts.


Please before posting more stupid choices, please look at these numbers:

The ENTIRE MAC CONFERENCE gets just under $8 million a year. The ENTIRE freaking conference. The AAC is getting over $7 million PER TEAM. (assuming Uconns part is equally divided)

The ENTIRE SUNBELT CONFERENCE and CONFERENCE USA makes under $5-6 million a year. Even if 1 of their teams was worth $7 million, then the rest of the conference would have to have a negative value.

So NO to Buffalo. NO to App State .... No to Georgia Southern or State, NO to any of the teams in those conferences.

(09-22-2019 01:06 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  There is not a single Conference USA, MAC, or Sunbelt team that adds enough value to not dilute, so anybody who is offering up a team from one of them... please stop. It wont happen. Were not gonna add some team just to get to 12, so we can reduce our payouts.


Please before posting more stupid choices, please look at these numbers:

The ENTIRE MAC CONFERENCE gets just under $8 million a year. The ENTIRE freaking conference. The AAC is getting over $7 million PER TEAM. (assuming Uconns part is equally divided)

The ENTIRE SUNBELT CONFERENCE and CONFERENCE USA makes under $5-6 million a year. Even if 1 of their teams was worth $7 million, then the rest of the conference would have to have a negative value.

So NO to Buffalo. NO to App State .... No to Georgia Southern or State, NO to any of the teams in those conferences.

getting the waiver to stay at 11 will most likely work for a couple years...but it's kicking the can...in 3 years we'll have to make a decision unless the rules are changed. IMHO teams like UAB and Buffalo are on notice 'get your house in order and do it quick'

(09-22-2019 01:12 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-22-2019 01:06 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  There is not a single Conference USA, MAC, or Sunbelt team that adds enough value to not dilute, so anybody who is offering up a team from one of them... please stop. It wont happen. Were not gonna add some team just to get to 12, so we can reduce our payouts.


Please before posting more stupid choices, please look at these numbers:

The ENTIRE MAC CONFERENCE gets just under $8 million a year. The ENTIRE freaking conference. The AAC is getting over $7 million PER TEAM. (assuming Uconns part is equally divided)

The ENTIRE SUNBELT CONFERENCE and CONFERENCE USA makes under $5-6 million a year. Even if 1 of their teams was worth $7 million, then the rest of the conference would have to have a negative value.

So NO to Buffalo. NO to App State .... No to Georgia Southern or State, NO to any of the teams in those conferences.

getting the waiver to stay at 11 will most likely work for a couple years...but it's kicking the can...in 3 years we'll have to make a decision unless the rules are changed. IMHO teams like UAB and Buffalo are on notice 'get your house in order and do it quick'

Those schools cant fix their issues in that short of time. NOBODY cares about Buffalo. Their fan base would take the #1 spot for apathy in this conference.
I love UAB but again, no market, no value and no long term success in anything. Not gonna happen.

What I can see is in a few years when the AAC gets a look in, we could go up even more and either BYU will be done with independence by then, or maybe Army comes around.

Otherwise its MWC teams or nothing... and even then, its a small group that we would add.

I personally think at some point ESPN will take 4 teams and put them into the AAC and then stop bidding on the MWC entirely.

UAB has a good market, they're opening a new football stadium, they have good basketball tradition, good facilities, and really solid academics.

in 3 years UAB could be ready...esp if they keep winning 8-11 games per year in football.

(09-22-2019 01:22 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  UAB has a good market, they're opening a new football stadium, they have good basketball tradition, good facilities, and really solid academics.

in 3 years UAB could be ready...esp if they keep winning 8-11 games per year in football.

If UAB ever joins this league I hope Houston is long gone.

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(09-22-2019 01:22 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  UAB has a good market, they're opening a new football stadium, they have good basketball tradition, good facilities, and really solid academics.

in 3 years UAB could be ready...esp if they keep winning 8-11 games per year in football.

Birmingham is the 43rd largest market ( and that is including Tuskaloosa in that number) and they run a distant 3rd in that market. They were shut down and are doing ok now, but they arent worth $7 million a year. NOt even close.

If they were, then the entire CUSA has a negative net worth except for them.

Boise State doesnt make $7 million a year and yet we want to add Birmingham which is making under $500K a year? Winning 8-10 games in a low end conference doesnt prove anything.

I respect that you like them and that they have potential but from a valuation approach, they just dont make sense.

(09-22-2019 12:30 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(09-22-2019 12:24 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-22-2019 11:37 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(09-22-2019 11:31 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-22-2019 11:16 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  For college sports, especially FBS, ODU is in a huge market. And unlike UH and SMU, they have no other major sports competition, let alone FBS competition.

They get $400K a year for their media rights for that HUGE market. Do see how that going to be additive to the the AAC deal.

While I don't really think ODU is ready to be in the AAC, it's not their fault CUSA is horrible. That's the CUSA media deal giving them $400k, and shouldn't be used as a gauge as to whether they're valuable or not.

I agree that some teams in CUSA may contribute more to the value of their deal than others---but it defies logic to believe that any single current CUSA team could be worth more than the entire CUSA deal. In other words---if the entire CUSA deal is worth 5.6 million---how in the hell can ODU be worth 7 million by itself (or anywhere close for that matter)?

They aren't because they aren't ready yet, but maybe in 10 years they could be. Remember they haven't been FBS for very long.

Perhaps---but in 10 years I suspect all the current AAC schools will be worth much more than they are now. Its going to be very difficult for ODU to ever catch up given their late start.

(09-22-2019 01:47 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(09-22-2019 01:22 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  UAB has a good market, they're opening a new football stadium, they have good basketball tradition, good facilities, and really solid academics.

in 3 years UAB could be ready...esp if they keep winning 8-11 games per year in football.

If UAB ever joins this league I hope Houston is long gone.

they won 11 football games last season to go along with back to back 20 win basketball campaigns...I hope they keep getting better because I think they have a LOT of potential.

The AAC is a city conference. App doesn’t fit the mold. You guys walk around all namby pamby on your “sidewalks” with your “plumbing” and “electricity”.

Weird stuff goes on up in the NC mountains. Illegal liquor. Questionable sibling relationships. 10 win seasons and dominating bowl performances. Y’all don’t want none of that in your big city conference anyways. We kinda belong in the #funbelt.

(09-22-2019 11:16 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 09:22 AM)panama Wrote:  

(06-23-2019 09:15 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  I’m a little less concerned with tv market. With things headed the streaming (or OTA national) route, it’s more the size of your fan base than what big city your empty stadium sits in.

If I had it my way (and I don’t), I would want a team that:

A. Has the resources to not miss a beat when spending competition ramps up. ECU has had growing pains here. This would potentially rule out teams like USM.

B. Has a halfway decent performance history. To continue pushing the P6 campaign, I think adding teams that have been well established as punching bags like Rice and Charlotte could hurt the cause.

My first pick is BYU without question. They have an enormous following, and have zero problem scheduling teams that bolster our SOS every year. Really hope ESPN helps make this one happen.

Boise would help us lock in the NY6 as a default. I feel like they are always the committee’s backup choice if we end up with a 2-loss champ. Don’t really know enough about their fan base though. If they have a good following, see above.

ODU is in a huge market, but it’s mostly saturated with VT and ECU fans. Plus, I like always having the leg up on recruiting the tidewater area.





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1) streaming doesn't negate market. The people in that market are just connecting a different way to watch.

2) ODU is not in a huge market. Houston and SMU are in a huge market.

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For college sports, especially FBS, ODU is in a huge market. And unlike UH and SMU, they have no other major sports competition, let alone FBS competition.

Norfolk.is.not.a.huge.market.

And the point of a truly huge market is there are so many people that you need a truly small part of it. 30k is less than 0.5% of Atlanta for instance. UH and SMU are don't just fine because they are winning.

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(09-22-2019 01:06 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  There is not a single Conference USA, MAC, or Sunbelt team that adds enough value to not dilute, so anybody who is offering up a team from one of them... please stop. It wont happen. Were not gonna add some team just to get to 12, so we can reduce our payouts.


Please before posting more stupid choices, please look at these numbers:

The ENTIRE MAC CONFERENCE gets just under $8 million a year. The ENTIRE freaking conference. The AAC is getting over $7 million PER TEAM. (assuming Uconns part is equally divided)

The ENTIRE SUNBELT CONFERENCE and CONFERENCE USA makes under $5-6 million a year. Even if 1 of their teams was worth $7 million, then the rest of the conference would have to have a negative value.

So NO to Buffalo. NO to App State .... No to Georgia Southern or State, NO to any of the teams in those conferences.

That's not how any of this works.

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(09-22-2019 12:24 PM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:  Voted for = other.

After yesterday, Buffalo is on my list.

Lol... also not how this works ...

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Add Colorado State. New facilities, big potential, good fanbase. It also opens the door to more western expansion in the future with AFA, SDSU, UNM, UNLV, Boise, etc

(09-22-2019 01:51 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  Add us, you cowards!

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(09-22-2019 02:13 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(09-22-2019 01:51 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  Add us, you cowards!

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Plz bby I'll send you oatmeal cookies.

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(09-22-2019 01:16 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(09-22-2019 01:12 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(09-22-2019 01:06 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  There is not a single Conference USA, MAC, or Sunbelt team that adds enough value to not dilute, so anybody who is offering up a team from one of them... please stop. It wont happen. Were not gonna add some team just to get to 12, so we can reduce our payouts.


Please before posting more stupid choices, please look at these numbers:

The ENTIRE MAC CONFERENCE gets just under $8 million a year. The ENTIRE freaking conference. The AAC is getting over $7 million PER TEAM. (assuming Uconns part is equally divided)

The ENTIRE SUNBELT CONFERENCE and CONFERENCE USA makes under $5-6 million a year. Even if 1 of their teams was worth $7 million, then the rest of the conference would have to have a negative value.

So NO to Buffalo. NO to App State .... No to Georgia Southern or State, NO to any of the teams in those conferences.

getting the waiver to stay at 11 will most likely work for a couple years...but it's kicking the can...in 3 years we'll have to make a decision unless the rules are changed. IMHO teams like UAB and Buffalo are on notice 'get your house in order and do it quick'

Those schools cant fix their issues in that short of time. NOBODY cares about Buffalo. Their fan base would take the #1 spot for apathy in this conference.
I love UAB but again, no market, no value and no long term success in anything. Not gonna happen.

What I can see is in a few years when the AAC gets a look in, we could go up even more and either BYU will be done with independence by then, or maybe Army comes around.

Otherwise its MWC teams or nothing... and even then, its a small group that we would add.

I personally think at some point ESPN will take 4 teams and put them into the AAC and then stop bidding on the MWC entirely.

No mw schools want to join the aac.

(09-22-2019 02:14 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(09-22-2019 02:13 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(09-22-2019 01:51 PM)Stay Cool Wrote:  Add us, you cowards!

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Mike Aresco's mail box is full

Plz bby I'll send you oatmeal cookies.

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Good seeing you around here, Stay Cool

(09-22-2019 02:18 PM)Coogever Wrote:  No mw schools want to join the aac.

Hmmmmm

(09-22-2019 02:04 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  Add Colorado State. New facilities, big potential, good fanbase. It also opens the door to more western expansion in the future with AFA, SDSU, UNM, UNLV, Boise, etc

Enough with the Western Pipe Dreams


Lol

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