(01-15-2019 08:50 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 08:41 AM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  Kind of Marshall. While also talking about pity. Marshall has real fans, not counting 15,000 empty seats into their 18,734 attendance figures every week for football. Same with basketball. Eilliams said it in the post game, that he looked up and saw all our fans, and told West how blessed they are to play here. Elmore said the same and talked about traveling to alot of other arenas that are nonwhere near the atmosphere that the Cam is. We also travel well as a fan base, and even during the mediocrity that Doc has bestowed upon our football program, we still travel and show up. Of course, also history thats been mentioned already. Marshall is the flagship program of cusa. That doesn't mean we will win it, there are other good programs here, but Marshall is the one most people would know outside of the conference, with Southern Miss right there as well. Aftee that, it falls off a cliff.

Humble too.

It's going to be funny when FAU brings them back to reality this Thursday.

(01-15-2019 07:30 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 06:57 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 09:09 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  https://youtu.be/84RYunRQHfI

That’s pretty shameful but hey if having the worst officiating in the country gets CUSA the #1 in The ESPN top 10 then we’ll take it in the butt for the good of the conference.

.96 seconds was the actual time elapsed in that play.

0.1 showing after Rice’s game winner. They reviewed and but it back to 1.5

Rice deflected the next inbounds and the clock expired. They reviewed and put back 0.5

Final play took 0.96, clock started at least 0.5 late. Didn’t review, or if they did WTF were they looking at?

Even the UTEP announcer was thinking “no way” as he skeptically repeated “we’ll see...”

Well executed play at the end by the Miners but it wouldn't be a bad thing imo if UTEP offered to reverse the result. Were there seconds lost here and there throughout the game? Should UTEP have had 3 more seconds at the end or no time at all? The time at the end was certainly mismanaged by the officials.

It’s obvious the officials started the clock late but at the same time the RICE players should play defense until the final whistle. #2 from RICE lost his man and that’s why Lathon was wide open to make the shot. The entire last sequence feels as if RICE was waiting for the clock to run out instead of playing disciplined defense.

Also I think it’s worth repeating that UTEP completed a comeback from down 17 points early. I know three-point shooting for both teams can be streaky, but that’s impressive enough to battle back from that deficit. Even against little old Rice. Two of our three conference losses now were double-digit comebacks. (And one of our wins was, too).

The league is supposed to issue a statement today on the formal review, I’ve heard.

(01-15-2019 09:02 AM)deb025 Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 08:50 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 08:41 AM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  Kind of Marshall. While also talking about pity. Marshall has real fans, not counting 15,000 empty seats into their 18,734 attendance figures every week for football. Same with basketball. Eilliams said it in the post game, that he looked up and saw all our fans, and told West how blessed they are to play here. Elmore said the same and talked about traveling to alot of other arenas that are nonwhere near the atmosphere that the Cam is. We also travel well as a fan base, and even during the mediocrity that Doc has bestowed upon our football program, we still travel and show up. Of course, also history thats been mentioned already. Marshall is the flagship program of cusa. That doesn't mean we will win it, there are other good programs here, but Marshall is the one most people would know outside of the conference, with Southern Miss right there as well. Aftee that, it falls off a cliff.

Humble too.

It's going to be funny when FAU brings them back to reality this Thursday.

Dreamin buddy. Next two games are the easiest we have had in quite a while, and they are decent teams, but i doubt we lose either one. It's amazing though, how much better our east teams are than west, in basketball.

(01-15-2019 09:02 AM)deb025 Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 08:50 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 08:41 AM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  Kind of Marshall. While also talking about pity. Marshall has real fans, not counting 15,000 empty seats into their 18,734 attendance figures every week for football. Same with basketball. Eilliams said it in the post game, that he looked up and saw all our fans, and told West how blessed they are to play here. Elmore said the same and talked about traveling to alot of other arenas that are nonwhere near the atmosphere that the Cam is. We also travel well as a fan base, and even during the mediocrity that Doc has bestowed upon our football program, we still travel and show up. Of course, also history thats been mentioned already. Marshall is the flagship program of cusa. That doesn't mean we will win it, there are other good programs here, but Marshall is the one most people would know outside of the conference, with Southern Miss right there as well. Aftee that, it falls off a cliff.

Humble too.

It's going to be funny when FAU brings them back to reality this Thursday.

This is the second thread in which you’ve said that exact thing. Do you need that much attention?

What’s going to be funny is all of the crow you’re going to choke down if we beat FAU at our place. And should we lose, you’re acting as if FAU is some garbage basketball team. They have just as good if not better resume than LaTech right now so I fail to see where we would be “brought back to reality”. If they beat us, it will be by the better team that night. It happens.

(01-15-2019 07:30 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 06:57 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 09:09 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  https://youtu.be/84RYunRQHfI

That’s pretty shameful but hey if having the worst officiating in the country gets CUSA the #1 in The ESPN top 10 then we’ll take it in the butt for the good of the conference.

.96 seconds was the actual time elapsed in that play.

0.1 showing after Rice’s game winner. They reviewed and but it back to 1.5

Rice deflected the next inbounds and the clock expired. They reviewed and put back 0.5

Final play took 0.96, clock started at least 0.5 late. Didn’t review, or if they did WTF were they looking at?

Even the UTEP announcer was thinking “no way” as he skeptically repeated “we’ll see...”

Well executed play at the end by the Miners but it wouldn't be a bad thing imo if UTEP offered to reverse the result. Were there seconds lost here and there throughout the game? Should UTEP have had 3 more seconds at the end or no time at all? The time at the end was certainly mismanaged by the officials.

Yeah, i just watched that. That was terribly bad. Great play, but that is a 1.5 second type of play, at 0.5 you have to tip or catch and release instantly, he caught it, turnes around and then got a shot off. Awful.

(01-15-2019 10:54 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 09:02 AM)deb025 Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 08:50 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 08:41 AM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  Kind of Marshall. While also talking about pity. Marshall has real fans, not counting 15,000 empty seats into their 18,734 attendance figures every week for football. Same with basketball. Eilliams said it in the post game, that he looked up and saw all our fans, and told West how blessed they are to play here. Elmore said the same and talked about traveling to alot of other arenas that are nonwhere near the atmosphere that the Cam is. We also travel well as a fan base, and even during the mediocrity that Doc has bestowed upon our football program, we still travel and show up. Of course, also history thats been mentioned already. Marshall is the flagship program of cusa. That doesn't mean we will win it, there are other good programs here, but Marshall is the one most people would know outside of the conference, with Southern Miss right there as well. Aftee that, it falls off a cliff.

Humble too.

It's going to be funny when FAU brings them back to reality this Thursday.

This is the second thread in which you’ve said that exact thing. Do you need that much attention?

What’s going to be funny is all of the crow you’re going to choke down if we beat FAU at our place. And should we lose, you’re acting as if FAU is some garbage basketball team. They have just as good if not better resume than LaTech right now so I fail to see where we would be “brought back to reality”. If they beat us, it will be by the better team that night. It happens.

I agree, FAU is right there with La Tech. Time will tell who is better but FAU has a much tougher schedule in conference

https://twitter.com/markbermanfox26/stat...25377?s=21

(01-15-2019 08:50 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 08:41 AM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  Kind of Marshall. While also talking about pity. Marshall has real fans, not counting 15,000 empty seats into their 18,734 attendance figures every week for football. Same with basketball. Eilliams said it in the post game, that he looked up and saw all our fans, and told West how blessed they are to play here. Elmore said the same and talked about traveling to alot of other arenas that are nonwhere near the atmosphere that the Cam is. We also travel well as a fan base, and even during the mediocrity that Doc has bestowed upon our football program, we still travel and show up. Of course, also history thats been mentioned already. Marshall is the flagship program of cusa. That doesn't mean we will win it, there are other good programs here, but Marshall is the one most people would know outside of the conference, with Southern Miss right there as well. Aftee that, it falls off a cliff.

Humble too.

(01-15-2019 03:00 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  https://twitter.com/markbermanfox26/stat...25377?s=21

Quote:"We determined the clock did not start on time..All video replay processes will be reviewed to ensure the best possible information is available to our officials on site"

Sucks for Rice but knew the outcome wouldn't change. You set a dangerous precedent changing the outcome of games from the commissioners office.

I timed the first out of bounds play on my phone and from the time the deflection happens to the time the ball hits the floor out of bounds I got anywhere from 1.48 - 1.88 seconds watching it about 10 times. There is no way both plays took place within the span of 1.5 seconds and I would agree that the game should have ended after the first in bounds pass was deflected or at a minimum put UTEP in the position to where they had to by rule tip the ball in. It is embarrassing that this officiating crew got both of the reviews wrong and it cost Rice a win.

I agree with JCMiner that Rice should've played better defense but that doesn't excuse the refs for getting right what they are paid to do.

(01-15-2019 03:14 PM)dragon2owl Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 03:00 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  https://twitter.com/markbermanfox26/stat...25377?s=21

Quote:"We determined the clock did not start on time..All video replay processes will be reviewed to ensure the best possible information is available to our officials on site"

Sorry guys I know it stings. If it makes you feel any better you won in my eyes.

(01-15-2019 03:39 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 03:14 PM)dragon2owl Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 03:00 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  https://twitter.com/markbermanfox26/stat...25377?s=21

Quote:"We determined the clock did not start on time..All video replay processes will be reviewed to ensure the best possible information is available to our officials on site"

Sorry guys I know it stings. If it makes you feel any better you won in my eyes.

We might get a rematch in the lower pod later in the season! Would’ve been nice to get a win in El Paso for the first time in 8 years though.

The officials we get as a conference are pure garbage. The home games I watch at Rice usually leave me with the belief we should take the best area HS refs instead of what we have to take as a bottom tier conference.

(01-15-2019 03:38 PM)cdsniner Wrote:  Sucks for Rice but knew the outcome wouldn't change. You set a dangerous precedent changing the outcome of games from the commissioners office.

I timed the first out of bounds play on my phone and from the time the deflection happens to the time the ball hits the floor out of bounds I got anywhere from 1.48 - 1.88 seconds watching it about 10 times. There is no way both plays took place within the span of 1.5 seconds and I would agree that the game should have ended after the first in bounds pass was deflected or at a minimum put UTEP in the position to where they had to by rule tip the ball in. It is embarrassing that this officiating crew got both of the reviews wrong and it cost Rice a win.

I agree with JCMiner that Rice should've played better defense but that doesn't excuse the refs for getting right what they are paid to do.

Everyone keeps saying this BUT...put yourself in the HC's shoes. He knows they don't have enough time to do anything but tip the ball in off the in bounds pass. He probably told his guys they didn't have enough time to get a shot off. Defend any potential tip ins and otherwise don't foul.

(01-15-2019 04:17 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 03:38 PM)cdsniner Wrote:  Sucks for Rice but knew the outcome wouldn't change. You set a dangerous precedent changing the outcome of games from the commissioners office.

I timed the first out of bounds play on my phone and from the time the deflection happens to the time the ball hits the floor out of bounds I got anywhere from 1.48 - 1.88 seconds watching it about 10 times. There is no way both plays took place within the span of 1.5 seconds and I would agree that the game should have ended after the first in bounds pass was deflected or at a minimum put UTEP in the position to where they had to by rule tip the ball in. It is embarrassing that this officiating crew got both of the reviews wrong and it cost Rice a win.

I agree with JCMiner that Rice should've played better defense but that doesn't excuse the refs for getting right what they are paid to do.

Everyone keeps saying this BUT...put yourself in the HC's shoes. He knows they don't have enough time to do anything but tip the ball in off the in bounds pass. He probably told his guys they didn't have enough time to get a shot off. Defend any potential tip ins and otherwise don't foul.

Yea you don’t want to foul (that lost us a game at Texas Tech 2 years ago). My guess is Pera said “let them catch any ball moving away from the basket”. That was enough for the win.

What city is Marshall in ? What's the pop

(01-15-2019 04:41 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  What city is Marshall in ? What's the pop

Huntington, WV.

Population of around 50k but the metro area is closer to 400k. Huntington is the central hub for the entire region/metro area.

2018-19 Nielson Rankings list us at the #70 TV market in the country just behind Omaha.... El Paso, TX is #85.

(01-15-2019 05:19 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 04:41 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  What city is Marshall in ? What's the pop

Huntington, WV.

Population of around 50k but the metro area is closer to 400k. Huntington is the central hub for the entire region/metro area.

2018-19 Nielson Rankings list us at the #70 TV market in the country just behind Omaha.... El Paso, TX is #85.

Sad thing is we were #59 a few years ago.

(01-15-2019 05:53 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 05:19 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 04:41 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  What city is Marshall in ? What's the pop

Huntington, WV.

Population of around 50k but the metro area is closer to 400k. Huntington is the central hub for the entire region/metro area.

2018-19 Nielson Rankings list us at the #70 TV market in the country just behind Omaha.... El Paso, TX is #85.

Sad thing is we were #59 a few years ago.

Maybe less WVians are sitting on their asses watching TV....nah lol

(01-14-2019 08:07 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 05:31 PM)MagNTX Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 09:03 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  That loss @UTSA is a crusher for UNT’s at-large chances.

It would have been a long shot anyway with the rankings of the CUSA field.

It is tough to go undefeated in a league where the teams and coaches are so familiar with one another, so it is expected to drop a couple. I just wish, as a league, we could find a way to get higher ranks before league play started.

As it is, UNT could have finished undefeated in CUSA and still probably would have had to win the conference tournament.

Maybe look at yourself in the mirror and ask why does my school North Texas play such soft non conference schedule year in year out.....3 Div. II opponents non conf. does nothing to help anyone out....

It did more than losing to bad opponents. Obviously, the NET scores of UNT are going to help the NET scores for the rest of the conference. Losing to anyone but the very best in the country appears to do more harm than good.