(01-13-2019 09:10 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:15 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 11:13 PM)elw4796 Wrote:  I'm just gonna throw this out there: the clock operator at the Rice UTEP game might need to work on his/her reaction time.

I am not sure what time of the game you are referring, but, with the exception of the last minute of the game, the refs turn on and off the clock.

https://twitter.com/every1plays/status/1...35713?s=20

The refs also have the ability to review this and correct the error but did not. Life in CUSA

The officials did review it. Was it late because the clock didn't start on time? Maybe, but not by more than a couple of tenths of a second. It reminded me of the Derek Fisher play when he made the shot in the western conference finals for the Lakers against the Spurs.

(01-12-2019 07:35 PM)usm99 Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 06:58 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  Eagz.

USM closes the last 2:30 of the game on a 10-2 run and get a 73-68 win at home vs UAB.

Going back to last year USM is 8-3 in home CUSA games but a miserable 1-11 in CUSA road games.

As we said last week, this Jekyll and Hyde USM team is not an upper tier C-USA BB team, but it is not a lower tier one either. Playing 6 games in a row ON THE ROAD (including first 3 C-USA games) made it look worse than it really was (not that it was exactly promising along the way either!).

I think USM can make a run come tournament time, but unless the road record improves, the Eagles will remain a middle tier Conference foe.

(01-13-2019 08:26 AM)Hilltopper2K Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:14 AM)ThunderingHerdFan Wrote:  Side note: WKU’s players could not have been more sportsmanlike. I gained all kinds of respect for them long before the final seconds. I had pretty well decided to post just that regardless of who won. They haven’t scratched the surface of what they can be. Right now they’re a collection of talent, not yet an all-around, cohesive team. They will take it to another level if they figure that out.

Could not have been more impressed with Bassey from that standpoint, either. Physical specimen who had a few very loud dunks and blocks, and I’m not sure he said a single word. Very businesslike. Enjoyed watching him play in person.

Classy post. And I agree. We are a young team and still a work in progress (even though the clock is ticking on figuring it out this season). But we have a VERY high ceiling and we are not close to hitting it yet. Nobody and I mean NOBODY will want to play us in March.

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WKU is arguably the best 8-8 team in the nation. We just can't put 40 minutes together every game for sundry reasons. This causes bad losses, Troy, Missouri State, and Indiana State. Also somewhat surprising wins, Arkansas, Wisconsin, WVU.
Most Topper fans would agree having Marek Nelson available to guard Kinsey would made a big difference and letting Bearden control the ball (0 TO's) compared to Banton (4 TO's).
Most of WKU's losses are from turnovers in crucial times and usually by freshmen, I think 10 out of 13 were by freshmen in the collapse against ODU. Charles can be a force on the inside but has a tendency for walking or losing the ball out of bounds at critical times.
When this team starts to mature, mostly freshmen and sophomores in key roles, they could be very good.

(01-13-2019 08:15 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 11:13 PM)elw4796 Wrote:  I'm just gonna throw this out there: the clock operator at the Rice UTEP game might need to work on his/her reaction time.

I am not sure what time of the game you are referring, but, with the exception of the last minute of the game, the refs turn on and off the clock.

Yes, in my reactionary state I completely forgot the rule.

(01-13-2019 10:01 AM)stanman505 Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 09:10 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:15 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 11:13 PM)elw4796 Wrote:  I'm just gonna throw this out there: the clock operator at the Rice UTEP game might need to work on his/her reaction time.

I am not sure what time of the game you are referring, but, with the exception of the last minute of the game, the refs turn on and off the clock.

https://twitter.com/every1plays/status/1...35713?s=20

The refs also have the ability to review this and correct the error but did not. Life in CUSA

The officials did review it. Was it late because the clock didn't start on time? Maybe, but not by more than a couple of tenths of a second. It reminded me of the Derek Fisher play when he made the shot in the western conference finals for the Lakers against the Spurs.

It wasn't as bad as I initially thought, but the refs did start the clock late. If you go frame by frame, they start the clock after he's gathered to two hands and pivoted to shoot instead of when it first touches his hand. It's a tough job that requires really quick reaction, but the ref is standing three feet away. Really shouldn't be making that type of mistake.

https://twitter.com/Eddie_Cru/status/108...7113772032

https://twitter.com/Eddie_Cru/status/108...9256033280

(01-13-2019 12:15 AM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  You might want to look around at some other attendance figures. It's embarrassing everywhere.

Just because UAB kinda sucks big time under Robert Ehsan and no one shows up to watch you doesn't mean everyone is doing awful. Ehsan was a HORRIBLE hire.

Not counting the Auburn game in Legacy Arena, UAB is averaging a whopping 2,841 per game.

(01-13-2019 10:31 AM)Franko Wrote:  WKU is arguably the best 8-8 team in the nation. We just can't put 40 minutes together every game for sundry reasons. This causes bad losses, Troy, Missouri State, and Indiana State. Also somewhat surprising wins, Arkansas, Wisconsin, WVU.

If you haven't noticed WVU sucks this year. They are now 8-8 and 0-4 in the B12.

(01-13-2019 10:01 AM)stanman505 Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 09:10 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:15 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 11:13 PM)elw4796 Wrote:  I'm just gonna throw this out there: the clock operator at the Rice UTEP game might need to work on his/her reaction time.

I am not sure what time of the game you are referring, but, with the exception of the last minute of the game, the refs turn on and off the clock.

https://twitter.com/every1plays/status/1...35713?s=20

The refs also have the ability to review this and correct the error but did not. Life in CUSA

The officials did review it. Was it late because the clock didn't start on time? Maybe, but not by more than a couple of tenths of a second. It reminded me of the Derek Fisher play when he made the shot in the western conference finals for the Lakers against the Spurs.

I seem to remember utep being on the short end of a last second call a couple of years ago so i feel for rice.

(01-13-2019 01:44 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 10:01 AM)stanman505 Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 09:10 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:15 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 11:13 PM)elw4796 Wrote:  I'm just gonna throw this out there: the clock operator at the Rice UTEP game might need to work on his/her reaction time.

I am not sure what time of the game you are referring, but, with the exception of the last minute of the game, the refs turn on and off the clock.

https://twitter.com/every1plays/status/1...35713?s=20

The refs also have the ability to review this and correct the error but did not. Life in CUSA

The officials did review it. Was it late because the clock didn't start on time? Maybe, but not by more than a couple of tenths of a second. It reminded me of the Derek Fisher play when he made the shot in the western conference finals for the Lakers against the Spurs.

I seem to remember utep being on the short end of a last second call a couple of years ago so i feel for rice.

Yeah but that was the correct call.

(01-13-2019 01:28 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  This schedule couldn't have been any worse for Western....one of the youngest teams in college basketball and no upper class leadership. To play the first 3 games on the road with 2 games vs preseason top 2 or 3 teams and both games played in a almost packed house.

This young team has not found a leader or the experience to overcome all of that. Marshall and ODU both have Sr leadership on their team...huge difference in close games. As we seen Marshall is 3-0 all wins coming on basically last second shots. ODU is 2-2 with both wins on come from behind or last second shots.

I think all Western, Marshall and ODU fans know the outcome of the Western game is most likely different if played anywhere but at Marshall and at ODU....

large home court crowds can pull a team through on come from behind wins

If this Western team finds that go to player and a leader no matter what the record you can put them right up at the top of CUSA. Losing is disappointing but its a loss to a team picked at the top of CUSA on their home court. Same goes for the ODU loss.

Only a few plays is making the difference from 3-0 to 0-3 for Marshall and Western...sometimes you lose a game instead of the other team winning it. Taking nothing away from Marshall I feel like Western loss this game.

get to play another one soon

Yeah, western certainly did lose. And we won. It was fantastic. We have been a 2nd half team all season. I felt fine down 11 at half, considering we played one of the worst halfs of basketball all season. I figured the game would come down to the final possession and it did. We happened to win.

Despite the current standings, Marshall, WKU, and UNT are probably still the best of the league right now. UNT, you're not ahead of us by much though. I'd include ODU up there as well, but I vaguely remember reading about how you guys lost one of your best players to an injury, and so that probably knocks you down a notch to our level. We'll see though. Conference schedule is still young.

(01-13-2019 10:31 AM)Franko Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:26 AM)Hilltopper2K Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:14 AM)ThunderingHerdFan Wrote:  Side note: WKU’s players could not have been more sportsmanlike. I gained all kinds of respect for them long before the final seconds. I had pretty well decided to post just that regardless of who won. They haven’t scratched the surface of what they can be. Right now they’re a collection of talent, not yet an all-around, cohesive team. They will take it to another level if they figure that out.

Could not have been more impressed with Bassey from that standpoint, either. Physical specimen who had a few very loud dunks and blocks, and I’m not sure he said a single word. Very businesslike. Enjoyed watching him play in person.

Classy post. And I agree. We are a young team and still a work in progress (even though the clock is ticking on figuring it out this season). But we have a VERY high ceiling and we are not close to hitting it yet. Nobody and I mean NOBODY will want to play us in March.

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WKU is arguably the best 8-8 team in the nation. We just can't put 40 minutes together every game for sundry reasons. This causes bad losses, Troy, Missouri State, and Indiana State. Also somewhat surprising wins, Arkansas, Wisconsin, WVU.
Most Topper fans would agree having Marek Nelson available to guard Kinsey would made a big difference and letting Bearden control the ball (0 TO's) compared to Banton (4 TO's).
Most of WKU's losses are from turnovers in crucial times and usually by freshmen, I think 10 out of 13 were by freshmen in the collapse against ODU. Charles can be a force on the inside but has a tendency for walking or losing the ball out of bounds at critical times.
When this team starts to mature, mostly freshmen and sophomores in key roles, they could be very good.

No one denies WKU has major talent.
The issue is Stansbury tries to win on talent alone and you can’t do that a majority of the time. Frankly, I think his recruiting tactics are borderline violations but that’s on he and the WKU administration. If he can actually coach the kids up and have them play as a team, you would likely roll through this league.

(01-13-2019 09:10 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:15 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 11:13 PM)elw4796 Wrote:  I'm just gonna throw this out there: the clock operator at the Rice UTEP game might need to work on his/her reaction time.

I am not sure what time of the game you are referring, but, with the exception of the last minute of the game, the refs turn on and off the clock.

https://twitter.com/every1plays/status/1...35713?s=20

The refs also have the ability to review this and correct the error but did not. Life in CUSA

Since it was in the last minute of the game, yes, it was the clockkeepers responsibilty to start the clock, and the refs usually go to the table to look at a replay to see if the shot had left the hand. Looks like they did not choose to do so.

To put a bow on the UTEP-Rice game, Rice is filing a formal inquiry into the end of the game. Appears that it took about 0.9-1.0 seconds from the time it hit Lathon's hand to release (he definitely got the shot off before the buzzer), which is why people are a bit peeved. Can't imagine anything will transpire from it (maybe one of those ref suspensions that just happened in the Sun Belt), though.

(01-13-2019 04:27 PM)elw4796 Wrote:  To put a bow on the UTEP-Rice game, Rice is filing a formal inquiry into the end of the game. Appears that it took about 0.9-1.0 seconds from the time it hit Lathon's hand to release (he definitely got the shot off before the buzzer), which is why people are a bit peeved. Can't imagine anything will transpire from it (maybe one of those ref suspensions that just happened in the Sun Belt), though.

You are probably right, and there would be several things to look at during the inquiry. Did the ref drop his hand at the proper time, and if they had a camera angle to see it, then they could look at the clockkeeper. 4 tenths of a second is pretty quick.....

(01-13-2019 04:27 PM)elw4796 Wrote:  To put a bow on the UTEP-Rice game, Rice is filing a formal inquiry into the end of the game. Appears that it took about 0.9-1.0 seconds from the time it hit Lathon's hand to release (he definitely got the shot off before the buzzer), which is why people are a bit peeved. Can't imagine anything will transpire from it (maybe one of those ref suspensions that just happened in the Sun Belt), though.

north texas officials could do the same with the travel on jackson's last second shot, but it doesn't change anything....teams still lost...move on to the next one

(01-13-2019 04:50 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 04:27 PM)elw4796 Wrote:  To put a bow on the UTEP-Rice game, Rice is filing a formal inquiry into the end of the game. Appears that it took about 0.9-1.0 seconds from the time it hit Lathon's hand to release (he definitely got the shot off before the buzzer), which is why people are a bit peeved. Can't imagine anything will transpire from it (maybe one of those ref suspensions that just happened in the Sun Belt), though.

north texas officials could do the same with the travel on jackson's last second shot, but it doesn't change anything....teams still lost...move on to the next one

Oh, absolutely. We were up 25-8 in the first half. Shouldn't have ever gotten to that point.

(01-13-2019 04:50 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 04:27 PM)elw4796 Wrote:  To put a bow on the UTEP-Rice game, Rice is filing a formal inquiry into the end of the game. Appears that it took about 0.9-1.0 seconds from the time it hit Lathon's hand to release (he definitely got the shot off before the buzzer), which is why people are a bit peeved. Can't imagine anything will transpire from it (maybe one of those ref suspensions that just happened in the Sun Belt), though.

north texas officials could do the same with the travel on jackson's last second shot, but it doesn't change anything....teams still lost...move on to the next one

Yeah I get it. Just that this one hurts extra.

UTEP had one win in FB (against us) and now just the one win in MBB.

Plus since a lot of folks on here like to gripe about inept CUSA officiating, maybe this protest will make the next lame call a little less likely.

Hopefully it will just motivate our team to keep playing better (and maybe mix in a little better defense on the inbound play)

(01-12-2019 09:03 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  That loss @UTSA is a crusher for UNT’s at-large chances.

It would have been a long shot anyway with the rankings of the CUSA field.

It is tough to go undefeated in a league where the teams and coaches are so familiar with one another, so it is expected to drop a couple. I just wish, as a league, we could find a way to get higher ranks before league play started.

As it is, UNT could have finished undefeated in CUSA and still probably would have had to win the conference tournament.

By the way, unless it has changed the last couple of years, there are no conference basketball officials. There is a large pot of them that are assigned to games. Not saying that the big games don’t get the best officials, but they are not labeled by conferences.

(01-13-2019 01:11 AM)Fatalisk Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 11:35 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  ODU vs FAU Attendance: 1,578
ODU vs FIU Attendance: 829

Both schools are a joke and don’t deserve any consideration to be in future conferences.

Embarrassing

Yea I have no interest in being in a conference with either of those schools.

So go independent, who the fook is holding you back?