(10-21-2018 07:07 AM)Banter Wrote: Good programs don't just shuffle around QB's all the time.
Alabama, OSU, Clemson haven't had any issues with playing the QB shuffle game mid season or hell even before national title games. I saw some things yesterday that looked a little more than just freshman jitters.
(10-21-2018 07:07 AM)Banter Wrote: Good programs don't just shuffle around QB's all the time.
Alabama, OSU, Clemson haven't had any issues with playing the QB shuffle game mid season or hell even before national title games. I saw some things yesterday that looked a little more than just freshman jitters.
I was going to say. We literally saw the best program in college football history change qbs in the national championship
(10-21-2018 08:03 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote: I like Ridder in the game because my theory is that we will win games where we don't make the stupid "Hayden Moore" type turnovers we used to count on.
Then Ridder went and made one himself to start the game (as did our kickoff returner).
Just avoid putting the ball on the ground and we win every game.
+1. It's particularly critical on the road to limit the turnovers for obvious reasons. We do not give them the ball in the red zone twice in first two possessions and they likely do not score until the end of the game. It's been an issue for us, and we've reverted back to making more errors the past few times out which has to be nipped in the bud. Both bad turnovers as well as you have to protect the football. In spite of faltering at the end, the defensive as well as the punter were yeoman efforts yesterday. Punter really made up for Ridder's issues throwing the ball. The other big issue to be addressed is if Cole is a reliable D1 kicker. Seems to have the leg, but you're not competing for championships or top 25 rankings without a solid kicker. Got to make the majority of your kicks from 30 to 45 yds. Another issue we've had lately with Gantz's injury plauge. My big issue with the rule off of the fg is the play on the field should take priority, not the tv broadcast. You can't replay plays because the tv did not get back on time. Just a bad joke.
(10-20-2018 07:12 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: Coach post game comments. Definitely the most somber I've seen him...
He knows they had no business losing that game. When you work hard and give one up like that it hurts. This game next week will be interesting given it's on the road. I'm real curious to see how they respond.
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The only thing that I am truly mad about is that in the 4th I think when they were up 17 to 10 and they were with in field goal range on 4 and 4 they go for it instead of trying the field goal. I understand that they had missing some but those where longer I think and you have to show confidence in your kicker for him to have some. They run the ball on 4th and 4 and don't make it. That was the game right there.
(10-21-2018 09:13 AM)Nobones Wrote: The only thing that I am truly mad about is that in the 4th I think when they were up 17 to 10 and they were with in field goal range on 4 and 4 they go for it instead of trying the field goal. I understand that they had missing some but those where longer I think and you have to show confidence in your kicker for him to have some. They run the ball on 4th and 4 and don't make it. That was the game right there.
It was 4th and 1.
But everyone in the building knew what play was coming.
We played like a young team today, we made a lot of mistakes, and beat ourselves at least as much as Temple beat us.
It is a fool's errand to point to any one mistake, there were many. (Dropped interception in the end zone, fumbles, missed field goals, penalties - especially the unsportsman like conduct, etc.)
My biggest issue right now is with the passing game. The WR's had only 6 receptions the entire game. The longest reception was 15 yards (1 by Jackson, 1 by Geddis). While our running game is good, it is not going to overcome that lack of production.
I thought that Temple was stacking the box on first and second down, dropping into coverage on 3rd and long.
My open question is what is the problem with the passing game. Are the WR's getting open? (My memory is not of many passes missing open WR's.) Is the QB not finding open WR's? Is the O line giving the QB enough time for routes to open? It is hard to tell from watching on TV. I would live to find a good analysis of this portion of the game. Anyone have any insight?
(10-21-2018 07:07 AM)Banter Wrote: Good programs don't just shuffle around QB's all the time.
Alabama, OSU, Clemson haven't had any issues with playing the QB shuffle game mid season or hell even before national title games. I saw some things yesterday that looked a little more than just freshman jitters.
It probably helps that those programs have multiple big time QB prospects to shuffle around.
I'm saying this somewhat tongue in cheek but no one was complaining that UC was overrated in the AP Top 25 before the Temple game. No one was calling for Moore or Bryant before the Temple game. We lose in OT on the road where making just one field goal (of the three missed ones) seals the win in regulation and now it's we're overrated, didn't deserve to be in the Top 25 to start with, Ridder needs a blow/rotation with Moore, etc., etc. This Cincinnati fan base is something man. Hell, sports fans in general are a rare breed no matter who is rooted for. So, now we play two back-to-back sub .500 teams with a shot to go 8-1 on the season. We suck. Just throw in the towel now.
(10-21-2018 01:57 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: I'm saying this somewhat tongue in cheek but no one was complaining that UC was overrated in the AP Top 25 before the Temple game. No one was calling for Moore or Bryant before the Temple game. We lose in OT on the road where making just one field goal (of the three missed ones) seals the win in regulation and now it's we're overrated, didn't deserve to be in the Top 25 to start with, Ridder needs a blow/rotation with Moore, etc., etc. This Cincinnati fan base is something man. Hell, sports fans in general are a rare breed no matter who is rooted for. So, now we play two back-to-back sub .500 teams with a shot to go 8-1 on the season. We suck. Just throw in the towel now.
I hate to say this but i am more concerned with SMU and Navy than USF. SMU has played a really difficult schedule and has a senior QB. Navy’s style of play still scares me. Can’t let one become two or three over next few weeks.
Horrible game yesterday mismanaged in so many different aspects. Young team and I think it’ll be a great learning experience.
Positives:
1) Defense is more stout than I even thought
2) Have some legitimate DBs for the first time in forever!
3) Run game was strong again
Negatives:
1) Coaches managed the game poorly IMO
2) Players overconfident and they made uncalled for mistakes and penalties. Gotta be confident but in control.
3) Ridder played like a freshman
(10-21-2018 01:57 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: I'm saying this somewhat tongue in cheek but no one was complaining that UC was overrated in the AP Top 25 before the Temple game. No one was calling for Moore or Bryant before the Temple game. We lose in OT on the road where making just one field goal (of the three missed ones) seals the win in regulation and now it's we're overrated, didn't deserve to be in the Top 25 to start with, Ridder needs a blow/rotation with Moore, etc., etc. This Cincinnati fan base is something man. Hell, sports fans in general are a rare breed no matter who is rooted for. So, now we play two back-to-back sub .500 teams with a shot to go 8-1 on the season. We suck. Just throw in the towel now.
I hate to say this but i am more concerned with SMU and Navy than USF. SMU has played a really difficult schedule and has a senior QB. Navy’s style of play still scares me. Can’t let one become two or three over next few weeks.
True. I didn't mean to infer that those teams should be taken lightly or chalk them up to an "auto" win but if you look at our remaining five games on the schedule it is a realistic expectation that we finish 3-2 with playing 3 games at home.
(10-21-2018 01:57 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: I'm saying this somewhat tongue in cheek but no one was complaining that UC was overrated in the AP Top 25 before the Temple game. No one was calling for Moore or Bryant before the Temple game. We lose in OT on the road where making just one field goal (of the three missed ones) seals the win in regulation and now it's we're overrated, didn't deserve to be in the Top 25 to start with, Ridder needs a blow/rotation with Moore, etc., etc. This Cincinnati fan base is something man. Hell, sports fans in general are a rare breed no matter who is rooted for. So, now we play two back-to-back sub .500 teams with a shot to go 8-1 on the season. We suck. Just throw in the towel now.
No one was complaining. Plenty of people said they didn't believe uc was one of the 25 best teams. I was one of them.
Nobody says we suck either. We have strengths, we have flaws. We're ahead of schedule on the rebuild but also not as good as our bad schedule made us seem. Win these next two and there is still an opportunity for a really special season despite all that.
(10-21-2018 09:13 AM)Nobones Wrote: The only thing that I am truly mad about is that in the 4th I think when they were up 17 to 10 and they were with in field goal range on 4 and 4 they go for it instead of trying the field goal. I understand that they had missing some but those where longer I think and you have to show confidence in your kicker for him to have some. They run the ball on 4th and 4 and don't make it. That was the game right there.
It was 4th and 1.
But everyone in the building knew what play was coming.
We were at a birthday party with no tv so we were having updates on a phone with gametracker it had said 4 and 4 I think at the 16. Makes it a little better that it was 4 and 1. But still should have kicked it if it was at the 16.
(10-21-2018 01:57 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: I'm saying this somewhat tongue in cheek but no one was complaining that UC was overrated in the AP Top 25 before the Temple game. No one was calling for Moore or Bryant before the Temple game. We lose in OT on the road where making just one field goal (of the three missed ones) seals the win in regulation and now it's we're overrated, didn't deserve to be in the Top 25 to start with, Ridder needs a blow/rotation with Moore, etc., etc. This Cincinnati fan base is something man. Hell, sports fans in general are a rare breed no matter who is rooted for. So, now we play two back-to-back sub .500 teams with a shot to go 8-1 on the season. We suck. Just throw in the towel now.
I hate to say this but i am more concerned with SMU and Navy than USF. SMU has played a really difficult schedule and has a senior QB. Navy’s style of play still scares me. Can’t let one become two or three over next few weeks.
True. I didn't mean to infer that those teams should be taken lightly or chalk them up to an "auto" win but if you look at our remaining five games on the schedule it is a realistic expectation that we finish 3-2 with playing 3 games at home.
The field goal that was called back. I didn't look At the replay, but you have to wonder how all of that came about if they were still in a TV timeout. Were there not refs in place who allowed the play to go forward? I'm sure the refs under the field goal posts called it good. My guess is that the refs were more at fault than our team. Therefore, the refs essentially iced our kicker.
(10-22-2018 12:21 AM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote: The field goal that was called back. I didn't look At the replay, but you have to wonder how all of that came about if they were still in a TV timeout. Were there not refs in place who allowed the play to go forward? I'm sure the refs under the field goal posts called it good. My guess is that the refs were more at fault than our team. Therefore, the refs essentially iced our kicker.
The game and play clock ran... meaning they not only spotted the ball, but signaled to run the play clock and game. I have literally no idea how that happened without the refs doing it.
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