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RE: Temple game thread
(10-22-2018 06:03 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(10-22-2018 12:21 AM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  The field goal that was called back. I didn't look At the replay, but you have to wonder how all of that came about if they were still in a TV timeout. Were there not refs in place who allowed the play to go forward? I'm sure the refs under the field goal posts called it good. My guess is that the refs were more at fault than our team. Therefore, the refs essentially iced our kicker.

The game and play clock ran... meaning they not only spotted the ball, but signaled to run the play clock and game. I have literally no idea how that happened without the refs doing it.

I thought there was a guy called the red hat who stood on the field and signaled when the TV timeout was up and play could resume.
 
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RE: Temple game thread
I always like to sleep on a loss like this before commenting in the heat of the moment. The last couple of pages of postings here are pretty thoughtful in terms of the big picture. My two cents on this game (and worth every penny of it):

- Ridder just had a bad outing. Most here have been singing his praises for leading the 'Cats to 6-0. I think he gets back to his winning ways @ SMU. If not, maybe we see Hayden Moore some on Saturday. The bench may be a learning experience for Ridder for a few series or a quarter if he hasn't returned to form early on in Dallas.
- What cost us the game? Any number of valid reasons have been stated here. For me though, I never thought 17-10 could hold up. The defense was superb in the second half but you just can't expect to pitch a shutout for three quarters on the road. I always watch believing you're one broken play away from being on the wrong end of the score. So it really came down to the offense's inability to get a few first downs--or even another score that would have consumed more of the clock and sealed the deal.
- Polls. It was a great run for a young team and a program trying to regain national stature. The increase in publicity is exponential with the way the top 25 teams are covered. Recruits likely noticed that. Still, I'm hoping this loss may take some pressure off a very young team that no longer is protecting an undefeated record and ranking. I agree with the post that SMU now becomes a critical game in how this team focuses and handles expectations the rest of the season. I like our chances with USF and ECU at home for eight wins; Navy still worries me and UCF is the best team we'll see. But as time expired Saturday, in a loss that should have been a win, my perspective remained: we are bowl eligible; 6-1 and ahead of schedule on the rebuild. Much to remain excited about with big home games in November and it's hard to imagine earning less than 8 or 9 wins which would be special. Go 'Cats!
 
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RE: Temple game thread
(10-22-2018 06:22 AM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  
(10-22-2018 06:03 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(10-22-2018 12:21 AM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  The field goal that was called back. I didn't look At the replay, but you have to wonder how all of that came about if they were still in a TV timeout. Were there not refs in place who allowed the play to go forward? I'm sure the refs under the field goal posts called it good. My guess is that the refs were more at fault than our team. Therefore, the refs essentially iced our kicker.

The game and play clock ran... meaning they not only spotted the ball, but signaled to run the play clock and game. I have literally no idea how that happened without the refs doing it.

I thought there was a guy called the red hat who stood on the field and signaled when the TV timeout was up and play could resume.

Yep, he works with the broadcast team, and the only way they would've set the ball or run the play clock is if he gave the signal...which he did, because the broadcast was back on.
 
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RE: Temple game thread
(10-22-2018 06:50 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  I always like to sleep on a loss like this before commenting in the heat of the moment. The last couple of pages of postings here are pretty thoughtful in terms of the big picture. My two cents on this game (and worth every penny of it):

- Ridder just had a bad outing. Most here have been singing his praises for leading the 'Cats to 6-0. I think he gets back to his winning ways @ SMU. If not, maybe we see Hayden Moore some on Saturday. The bench may be a learning experience for Ridder for a few series or a quarter if he hasn't returned to form early on in Dallas.
- What cost us the game? Any number of valid reasons have been stated here. For me though, I never thought 17-10 could hold up. The defense was superb in the second half but you just can't expect to pitch a shutout for three quarters on the road. I always watch believing you're one broken play away from being on the wrong end of the score. So it really came down to the offense's inability to get a few first downs--or even another score that would have consumed more of the clock and sealed the deal.
- Polls. It was a great run for a young team and a program trying to regain national stature. The increase in publicity is exponential with the way the top 25 teams are covered. Recruits likely noticed that. Still, I'm hoping this loss may take some pressure off a very young team that no longer is protecting an undefeated record and ranking. I agree with the post that SMU now becomes a critical game in how this team focuses and handles expectations the rest of the season. I like our chances with USF and ECU at home for eight wins; Navy still worries me and UCF is the best team we'll see. But as time expired Saturday, in a loss that should have been a win, my perspective remained: we are bowl eligible; 6-1 and ahead of schedule on the rebuild. Much to remain excited about with big home games in November and it's hard to imagine earning less than 8 or 9 wins which would be special. Go 'Cats!

I agree 100%. We all knew that everything had to basically go our way to come out with a win at Temple (who has our number for the past couple of years...strange, but they are also one of our closer conference mates).

The kicking game was disappointing as it would've made the difference. However, the offense was just not up to par for the day.

Moving forward, I am personally excited about this upcoming game at SMU (I'll be there! Finally, another game in Texas!) - but my question is what has to happen to make a race in the East? Do we need Temple to lose on of their remaining games and a game against a west team and we run the table? Are there any shots at winning the East? What has to happen?
 
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RE: Temple game thread
UC win out Temple loses two is easiest scenario.

Basically the next two for Temple are most likely at UCF and at Houston.
 
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Two days after the game and I still don't feel any better about it. Just kept thinking 17-10 would not be enough and that the D eventually would let one slip through after all the changes of possession that 2nd half. After McClelland's TD run (6 mins in the 3rd qtr.) here is a breakdown of our drives:

• 1st & 10 at TEM 35
(5:09 - 3rd) Desmond Ridder run for 4 yds to the Temp 31
• 2nd & 6 at TEM 31
(5:09 - 3rd) Michael Warren II run for 2 yds to the Temp 29
• 3rd & 4 at TEM 29
(5:09 - 3rd) Michael Warren II run for 2 yds to the Temp 27
• 4th & 2 at TEM 27
(5:09 - 3rd) Tavion Thomas run for no gain to the Temp 27

• 1st & 10 at CIN 25
(1:53 - 3rd) Desmond Ridder pass incomplete to Rashad Medaris
• 2nd & 10 at CIN 25
(1:53 - 3rd) Michael Warren II run for no gain to the Cincy 25
• 3rd & 10 at CIN 25
(1:53 - 3rd) Desmond Ridder pass complete to Rashad Medaris for 6 yds to the Cincy 31
• 4th & 4 at CIN 31
(1:53 - 3rd) James Smith punt for 52 yds, fair catch by Isaiah Wright at the Temp 17

• 1st & 10 at CIN 10
(12:24 - 4th) Desmond Ridder run for 4 yds to the Cincy 14
• 2nd & 6 at CIN 14
(12:24 - 4th) Desmond Ridder pass incomplete to Jayshon Jackson
• 3rd & 6 at CIN 14
(12:24 - 4th) Desmond Ridder run for 2 yds to the Cincy 16
• 4th & 4 at CIN 16
(12:24 - 4th) James Smith punt for 72 yds, downed at the Temp 12

• 1st & 10 at CIN 8
(6:12 - 4th) Michael Warren II run for 2 yds to the Cincy 10
• 2nd & 8 at CIN 10
(6:12 - 4th) Desmond Ridder run for 2 yds to the Cincy 12
• 3rd & 6 at CIN 12
(6:12 - 4th) Desmond Ridder pass incomplete to Josiah Deguara
• 4th & 6 at CIN 12
(6:12 - 4th) James Smith punt for 54 yds, downed at the Temp 34

• 1st & 10 at CIN 24
(4:12 - 4th) Michael Warren II run for 4 yds to the Cincy 28
• 2nd & 6 at CIN 28
(4:12 - 4th) Michael Warren II run for no gain to the Cincy 28
• 3rd & 6 at CIN 28
(4:12 - 4th) Desmond Ridder pass incomplete to Rashad Medaris
• 4th & 6 at CIN 28
(4:12 - 4th) James Smith punt for 47 yds , Isaiah Wright returns for no gain to the Temp 25

• 1st & 10 at CIN 27
(0:46 - 4th) CINCINNATI Penalty, delay of game (-5 Yards) to the Cincy 22
• 1st & 15 at CIN 22
(0:46 - 4th) Desmond Ridder pass complete to Kahlil Lewis for 7 yds to the Cincy 29
• 2nd & 8 at CIN 29
(0:46 - 4th) Desmond Ridder pass incomplete to Kahlil Lewis, broken up by Dan Archibong
• 3rd & 8 at CIN 29
(0:46 - 4th) Michael Warren II run for 8 yds to the Cincy 37 for a 1ST down
• 1st & 10 at CIN 37
(0:46 - 4th) TEAM pass incomplete
• 2nd & 10 at CIN 37
(0:46 - 4th) Desmond Ridder sacked by Dan Archibong and Michael Dogbe for a loss of 7 yards to the Cincy 30

So no more McClelland and only Thomas for the 4th down attempt (and McClelland seemed to have a hot hand, I like that he gives us a perimeter threat). No first downs except Warren's right before the end of regulation when Temple was playing prevent. Still frustrated.....
 
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Good God James Smith did everything he possibly could the last 20 minutes. Punts of 52, 72, 54 and 47 yards with ZERO return yards. But you can't punt to win...UC needed something from their QB to put the game away and just couldn't get it.
 
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(10-22-2018 11:09 AM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  UC win out Temple loses two is easiest scenario.

Basically the next two for Temple are most likely at UCF and at Houston.

Winning the East was always likely going to come down to:
1. Winning against Navy, SMU and ECU.
2. At least Splitting with Temple / USF
3. Stealing the game at UCF

That is still in play. Need to take care of business the next two weeks to set up a potential special finish.
 
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(10-22-2018 02:46 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Good God James Smith did everything he possibly could the last 20 minutes. Punts of 52, 72, 54 and 47 yards with ZERO return yards. But you can't punt to win...UC needed something from their QB to put the game away and just couldn't get it.

I know! Mentioned this in another thread - if we had won, he probably deserved the game ball along with Warren. James Smith is a stud (can a punter be a stud?)!
 
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(10-22-2018 03:23 PM)bearcatdp Wrote:  
(10-22-2018 02:46 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Good God James Smith did everything he possibly could the last 20 minutes. Punts of 52, 72, 54 and 47 yards with ZERO return yards. But you can't punt to win...UC needed something from their QB to put the game away and just couldn't get it.

I know! Mentioned this in another thread - if we had won, he probably deserved the game ball along with Warren. James Smith is a stud (can a punter be a stud?)!

best punting performance since Kevin Huber against Rutgers in 2008? Huber punted 9 times that day at a 46.4 yard clip and only gave up 5 total return yards. Seemed to swing field position all game.
http://www.espn.co.uk/college-football/b...=282852132

Honestly, Smith the last twenty minutes might have been better.
 
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It seems like the AAC has it out for the Bearcats, but this time they really shot themselves in the foot. Poor officiating always presents a chance for lesser teams to pull out a win against teams that you'd rather have representing the conference. Now, instead of three Top 20 teams, they'll have to make do with two Top 25 teams and lesser exposure for the conference in a contract year. The Bearcats should have pulled this out for sure, but three points (and the other seven) are a huge deal on the road. It would behoove the conference to figure out what the hell happened on Saturday and prevent it from happening again.
 
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