(10-20-2018 05:54 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote: The made FG called off after the center ref put the ball in play in the end cost UC this game.
If a commercial was running so what? The officiating crew doesn't answer to the TV crew.
The center official put the ball in play not UC, not Temple.
Both teams were at the line, the center ref put the ball in play and UC kicked and made the FG.
UC should ask for an explanation from the AAC.
Always Against Cincinnati won’t have an explanation. The conference despises us.
That said, we were the vastly superior team and we just played like crap and blew it. Temple did nothing to beat us, we messed up. They didn’t win, we lost. Hopefully our freshman QB won’t look like a freshman next week because he sure did this week.
(This post was last modified: 10-20-2018 07:55 PM by Dannyboy.)
(10-20-2018 05:54 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote: The made FG called off after the center ref put the ball in play in the end cost UC this game.
If a commercial was running so what? The officiating crew doesn't answer to the TV crew.
The center official put the ball in play not UC, not Temple.
Both teams were at the line, the center ref put the ball in play and UC kicked and made the FG.
UC should ask for an explanation from the AAC.
Always Against Cincinnati won’t have an explanation. The conference despises us.
That said, we were the vastly superior team and we just played like crap and blew it. Temple did nothing to beat us, we messed up. They didn’t win, we lost. Hopefully our freshman QB won’t look like a freshman next week because he sure did this week.
Definitely a bullsh*t call, no doubt about it. Refresh my memory, why does the conference hate us?
(10-20-2018 05:54 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote: The made FG called off after the center ref put the ball in play in the end cost UC this game.
If a commercial was running so what? The officiating crew doesn't answer to the TV crew.
The center official put the ball in play not UC, not Temple.
Both teams were at the line, the center ref put the ball in play and UC kicked and made the FG.
UC should ask for an explanation from the AAC.
Always Against Cincinnati won’t have an explanation. The conference despises us.
That said, we were the vastly superior team and we just played like crap and blew it. Temple did nothing to beat us, we messed up. They didn’t win, we lost. Hopefully our freshman QB won’t look like a freshman next week because he sure did this week.
Definitely a bullsh*t call, no doubt about it. Refresh my memory, why does the conference hate us?
Because UC has made no bones about not wanting to be in "the American" and, by-and-large our fans have not been among the "American fanboys."
I need to let it go but one last point. We had 200 yards rushing to Temple's 80 yards. Repeat. 200 yards rushing against 80. With that stat alone you have to figure you win the game most of the time. Our best receiver was the backup TE Labelle - 3 REC 27 YDS followed by Deguara - 3 REC 25 YDS. If I'm Coach, I sit down with Denbrock, Phillips, and Guidugli and get everyone on the same page and FIGURE out how to help our frosh QB be successful when the running game gives you an effort like today. I wasn't at the game to see what was happening with route running [beyond the tv screen]. Can we not flare a running back out in the flat once in a while? Can we run a slant or a quick hitter with a three step drop? How many times did Ridder hang on to the ball too long making reads - four and five one thousand "ticks" I counted often. I remember this happening with Hayden over the last few years and even Kiel. I get that you have to try and make some medium to longer range passes once in a while to soften the DEE but Ridder needed to build some rhythm and confidence. Are we not strong enough talent-wise at the wide out spots? Temple has big time receivers as a group and that was evident today. It's just mind boggling that with 200 yards rushing we can't pass for more than 84 yards. I suspect just not a good day from coaching and adjustments in part. I'm not going to throw Ridder under the bus but obviously his play today did not help either.
(10-20-2018 09:08 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: Can we run a slant or a quick hitter with a three step drop?
No. An emphatic no. They tried it 3 or 4 times and it went nowhere.
A slant? I don't remember one. I remember a couple of screens that were executed poorly.
I guess I don't know my play names well enough. Seriously. I thought it was the quick pass to the receiver running toward the middle. UC tried that 3-4 times and it never worked.
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(10-20-2018 09:08 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: Can we run a slant or a quick hitter with a three step drop?
No. An emphatic no. They tried it 3 or 4 times and it went nowhere.
A slant? I don't remember one. I remember a couple of screens that were executed poorly.
I guess I don't know my play names well enough. Seriously. I thought it was the quick pass to the receiver running toward the middle. UC tried that 3-4 times and it never worked.
Yeah, that's a tunnel or inside screen...those plays will typically only work once a game, and definitely not against a team with linebackers and safeties like Temple has.
(10-20-2018 09:08 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: Can we run a slant or a quick hitter with a three step drop?
No. An emphatic no. They tried it 3 or 4 times and it went nowhere.
A slant? I don't remember one. I remember a couple of screens that were executed poorly.
I guess I don't know my play names well enough. Seriously. I thought it was the quick pass to the receiver running toward the middle. UC tried that 3-4 times and it never worked.
I could be wrong in my memory but I thought they ran some screens set up behind/near/just beyond the line of scrimmage. A slant pass is typically at least 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage and you hope to hit the receiver in stride. I don't remember that but it didn't work whatever they ran.
Listened but didn't see any video of today. I was at UCLA and our wr couldn't get any separation in that game. Sounds like today must have been similar. Home games I've seen UC passing game doesn't pose a threat to the middle of the field and very seldom see combination routes to the inside or outside. Pretty vanilla passing game from my observation.
Not a whole lot of imagination in the offensive scheme.
(10-20-2018 02:39 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote: SMU isn’t going to be a gimme. Should we have played Moore?
I would have. Ridder was lost and uncomfortable all day. Even when he had all day to throw.
Who knows if the result would have changed, but I agree with you guys that I'd have liked to see Hayden get at least a series or two in Q4 or OT to see if he could help shake things up.
But I'd still start Ridder next week to see if he's back on track. If he's still struggling after a few drives, then give Hayden and maybe even Ben a few shots.
(This post was last modified: 10-21-2018 02:55 AM by Bearhawkeye.)
Its amazing how quickly you all are turning on a RS Freshman QB that EVERYONE wanted as the starter over Moore. Ridder had a bad game, but he is likely the future of the program. This was a team many thought would be 6-6 and many of you are saying that this is the worst loss in a long time...What kind of hyperbolic bull**** is that? Do we not remember the last two years?
Moore is not the answer, and likely would not have changed anything last night. People don't even know what Ben Bryant is and you want a true freshman to come into the game against one of the better defenses we will play all season... cmon. We wont see Bryant again this season unless it is garbage time.
Good programs don't just shuffle around QB's all the time.
(This post was last modified: 10-21-2018 07:07 AM by Banter.)
(10-21-2018 07:07 AM)Banter Wrote: Its amazing how quickly you all are turning on a RS Freshman QB that EVERYONE wanted as the starter over Moore. Ridder had a bad game, but he is likely the future of the program. This was a team many thought would be 6-6 and many of you are saying that this is the worst loss in a long time...What kind of hyperbolic bull**** is that? Do we not remember the last two years?
Moore is not the answer, and likely would not have changed anything last night. People don't even know what Ben Bryant is and you want a true freshman to come into the game against one of the better defenses we will play all season... cmon. We wont see Bryant again this season unless it is garbage time.
Good programs don't just shuffle around QB's all the time.
Not sure anyone turned on him. The point is he's redshirt freshman who was awful yesterday. Nobody is saying he sucks and we should revoke his scholarship. He's young and took advantage of a run against bad defenses but isn't there yet. No knock on him.
(10-21-2018 07:07 AM)Banter Wrote: Its amazing how quickly you all are turning on a RS Freshman QB that EVERYONE wanted as the starter over Moore. Ridder had a bad game, but he is likely the future of the program. This was a team many thought would be 6-6 and many of you are saying that this is the worst loss in a long time...What kind of hyperbolic bull**** is that? Do we not remember the last two years?
Moore is not the answer, and likely would not have changed anything last night. People don't even know what Ben Bryant is and you want a true freshman to come into the game against one of the better defenses we will play all season... cmon. We wont see Bryant again this season unless it is garbage time.
Good programs don't just shuffle around QB's all the time.
You've been on this website long enough to know it's not amazing at all
At any rate, I don't think it's unreasonable that if Ridder is struggling and it just isn't his day, it might not be a bad idea to put Hayden in to see what he can do. Certainly worked against UCLA in the reverse.
I like Ridder in the game because my theory is that we will win games where we don't make the stupid "Hayden Moore" type turnovers we used to count on.
Then Ridder went and made one himself to start the game (as did our kickoff returner).
Just avoid putting the ball on the ground and we win every game.
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