This is the most entertaining thread in a long while. Like all great books, a powerful yet content beginning, tragic middle ripe with anger and disbelief, and a suspenseful ending where we're all waiting to see if the hero (CG if you will) can muster the strength to oppress the aggressors with his ban powers and regain civility to Hawksland.

(12-17-2015 01:33 PM)Tribal Wrote:  This is the most entertaining thread in a long while. Like all great books, a powerful yet content beginning, tragic middle ripe with anger and disbelief, and a suspenseful ending where we're all waiting to see if the hero (CG if you will) can muster the strength to oppress the aggressors with his ban powers and regain civility to Hawksland.

It's been pretty civil even with them predicting they would beat us by 18 points or whatever on our homecourt like they had that kind of vastly superior talent as well as the disrespecting us like we are some "lousy" program that has had 1 sub 230 season in about 8 years like they have had, or that this was some top 25 team losing to a 300 RPI one like a decade ago.

The line was about even. Truth is that was likely their best chance for a few years too for a with Tyson and Barkley only sophmores/freshman. Lebo even seems to have a good handle on how to deal with this "system" or press they were warning me about.

(12-17-2015 03:24 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  Truth is that was likely their best chance for a few years too for a with Tyson and Barkley only sophmores/freshman. Lebo even seems to have a good handle on how to deal with this "system".

Right, because history has shown us that you get the better of us all the time. SMH, i've heard the same song and dance from you before about talent, turning the corner etc etc. And, the end result is the same old mediocre below .500 output. I'm not worried about beating you next year just as i wasn't when our crappy teams did it the last several years. it took 8 on 5 to get it done this year and it likely won't next. Maybe next year you will actually man up and make a prediction.

(12-17-2015 03:32 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 03:24 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  Truth is that was likely their best chance for a few years too for a with Tyson and Barkley only sophmores/freshman. Lebo even seems to have a good handle on how to deal with this "system".

Right, becuase history has shown us that you get the better of us all the time. SMH i've heard the same song and dance from you before about talent, turning the corner etc etc. And, the end result is the same old mediocre below .500 output. I'm not worried about beating you next year just as i wasn't when our crappy teams did it the last several years. it took 8 on 5 to get it done this year and it likely won't next. Maybe next year you will actually man up and make a prediction.

We haven't played very much the last 8 or so years. We've had the better team pretty much all those years even though you call us a "lousy" program it's you guys that have like 1 top 230 season in that time frame. We aren't great but we haven't been that. What happened even 5 years ago doesn't matter at this point. Those coaches are gone and Lebo seems to have already figured out Keats and has young talent.

(12-17-2015 03:37 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 03:32 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 03:24 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  Truth is that was likely their best chance for a few years too for a with Tyson and Barkley only sophmores/freshman. Lebo even seems to have a good handle on how to deal with this "system".

Right, because history has shown us that you get the better of us all the time. SMH i've heard the same song and dance from you before about talent, turning the corner etc etc. And, the end result is the same old mediocre below .500 output. I'm not worried about beating you next year just as i wasn't when our crappy teams did it the last several years. it took 8 on 5 to get it done this year and it likely won't next. Maybe next year you will actually man up and make a prediction.

Those coaches are gone and Lebo seems to have already out coached Keats and has young talent.

You are correct, it doesn't, They are now 1-1 head to head. Just wanted to point out that even in our down years we still beat you H2H. Like 3 years ago when we were dead last and beat you in G'craphole. And Keatts has plenty of young talent too.

Also our talent hasn't been the issue.

Kemp, Richmond, Tyson, Barkley Sherrod, Paul etc are as great players, best I've seen here. We've had like 4 guys get NBA workouts and Richmond sign an NBA contract. The issue is actually playing these all conference guys enough which Lebo has failed to do for years at a time and underachieving. He is still doing with Barkley this year off the bench. Barkley actually played last night 33 minutes and we won. Shocker. Probably is he won't every game and we still want start the guy though or play him where he could actually get a breather. He played all 33 minutes last night without a break because he started on the bench which is stupid crap I have a problem with. Other than that he's been a good coach and has got good talent here.

(12-17-2015 03:40 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 03:37 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 03:32 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 03:24 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  Truth is that was likely their best chance for a few years too for a with Tyson and Barkley only sophmores/freshman. Lebo even seems to have a good handle on how to deal with this "system".

Right, because history has shown us that you get the better of us all the time. SMH i've heard the same song and dance from you before about talent, turning the corner etc etc. And, the end result is the same old mediocre below .500 output. I'm not worried about beating you next year just as i wasn't when our crappy teams did it the last several years. it took 8 on 5 to get it done this year and it likely won't next. Maybe next year you will actually man up and make a prediction.

Those coaches are gone and Lebo seems to have already out coached Keats and has young talent.

You are correct, it doesn't, They are now 1-1 head to head. Just wanted to point out that even in our down years we still beat you H2H. Like 3 years ago when we were dead last and beat you in G'craphole. And Keatts has plenty of young talent too.

It's beyond that. Lebo seemed to figure out Keats last night and this pressing. This is your "system" I was told pre game. What are you going to completely change it and settle into a set up zone? Our guys aren't going anywhere for a while even White who had 20 and 7 last night is back next year.

(12-17-2015 03:48 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 03:40 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 03:37 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 03:32 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 03:24 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  Truth is that was likely their best chance for a few years too for a with Tyson and Barkley only sophmores/freshman. Lebo even seems to have a good handle on how to deal with this "system".

Right, because history has shown us that you get the better of us all the time. SMH i've heard the same song and dance from you before about talent, turning the corner etc etc. And, the end result is the same old mediocre below .500 output. I'm not worried about beating you next year just as i wasn't when our crappy teams did it the last several years. it took 8 on 5 to get it done this year and it likely won't next. Maybe next year you will actually man up and make a prediction.

Those coaches are gone and Lebo seems to have already out coached Keats and has young talent.

You are correct, it doesn't, They are now 1-1 head to head. Just wanted to point out that even in our down years we still beat you H2H. Like 3 years ago when we were dead last and beat you in G'craphole. And Keatts has plenty of young talent too.

It's beyond that. Lebo seemed to figure out Keats last night and this pressing. This is your system, what are you going to change it and settle into a zone? Our guys aren't going anywhere for a while even White who had 20 and 7 last night is back next year.

That's fine, I've seen him adjust before, I'm sure he will for next time.

(12-16-2015 09:09 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Win the conference or bust . You just can't lose to scrub teams like this . Pathetic

That "scrub team" has a more talented roster, better athletes, and plays in a MUCH better conference against teams VASTLY superior to anything the CAA could ever produce. You played a tough game against a better, more battle-tested team.

No offense, but considering the type of conference schedule we have to play, and the caliber team we have to face week in and week out, I wish we'd schedule teams a bit stronger than UNCW to get us ready for UCONN, Memphis, Cincy, Temple, SMU, etc. It's the whole "If we win, we were supposed to, if we lose, fire everybody" thing.

Reality has set in. You've been passed in basketball by yet ANOTHER North Carolina school.

(12-17-2015 04:04 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Reality has set in. You've been passed in basketball by yet ANOTHER North Carolina school.

We will see where you end up at the end of the season, you are just as delusion as jonesin. Seems to be a common theme with ECU guys. You never passed us even when we sucked. You caught a break, we played horrible, 8-5 and still almost beat you.
BTW, never posted on an ECU board and have no interest too.

(12-17-2015 04:13 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 04:04 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Reality has set in. You've been passed in basketball by yet ANOTHER North Carolina school.

We will see where you end up at the end of the season, you are just as delusion as jonesin. Seems to be a common theme with ECU guys. You never passed us even when we sucked. You caught a break, we played horrible, 8-5 and still almost beat you.
CG lock this POS trolls since the trolls can't seem to stay away. BTW, never posted on an ECU board and have no interest too.

Take me out of that. I've been out on Lebo for a couple years. I have little faith Lebo will actually start Barkley and play him 33 minutes a game like he did last night and he's a difference maker. He'll probably play him 20 minutes in a few games from now that we'll lose close. That's our MO to under use our biggest talents. I don't really see it changing. Just glad he used him last night. If he does though all bets are off cause we are a different team.

(12-16-2015 09:15 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  Make that 2-23 from 3, and NOW it's ballgame. Good night everyone.

(12-17-2015 04:13 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(12-17-2015 04:04 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Reality has set in. You've been passed in basketball by yet ANOTHER North Carolina school.

We will see where you end up at the end of the season, you are just as delusion as jonesin. Seems to be a common theme with ECU guys. You never passed us even when we sucked. You caught a break, we played horrible, 8-5 and still almost beat you.
CG lock this POS trolls since the trolls can't seem to stay away. BTW, never posted on an ECU board and have no interest too.

I have no issue tipping my hat to ECU for the win last night. We didn't make adjustments where needed, especially given our shooting woes early this season. I'd caution the rational ECU fans to pump the breaks on passing UNCW until actually accomplishing something.

I appreciate Jonesing's civility throughout the thread.

(12-17-2015 04:31 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  ECU fans to pump the breaks on passing UNCW until actually accomplishing something.

I appreciate Jonesing's civility throughout the thread.

But that would require use of simple logic, something most seem to not have. I do agree, Jonesin has been civil for the most part. And for the first time i can ever remember didn't immediately post after the game.

No need to lock the thread at this time. It's post game banter and civil considering the participants.

(12-17-2015 04:31 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  I have no issue tipping my hat to ECU for the win last night. We didn't make adjustments where needed, especially given our shooting woes early this season. I'd caution the rational ECU fans to pump the breaks on passing UNCW until actually accomplishing something.

I appreciate Jonesing's civility throughout the thread.

you nailed it. they beat us b/c we refused to adjust. that is on us. we make adjustments and drive more, as talley was trying to do, instead of jacking up 3s, as ponder was doing, we win that game.

Ponder has played really poorly lately. He was in way over his head against Georgetown, and was just as unproductive at ECU.

We are really feeling the loss of Jarvis Haywood. His size and scoring from the 2 spot were being planned for since he transferred, which would have taken Ponders place.

As much as not hitting the 3, or not adjusting for the zone, the fouls are the top problem right now. We simply cannot overcome the discrepancy in FT attempts, DQ's, players having to sit, and players trying to stay on the court in foul trouble. 25 fouls per game is not sustainable for a winning team.

This entire conversation is why you don't play ECU. It is not a true rivalry game and UNCW would be wise to drop it and move on. UNCW has a budding rivalry with COC and should push that as hard as possible. Just no upside to this game at all. I know Bass is an ECU guy and some of the posters here see ECU as a big game and the fact is those days are long gone. I saw a little film of the game and it was not exactly a overflow crowd.

Tough loss guys.

The sad part for EZU is that there are more Posts on this board by EZU fans than on the scout and rivals boards combined. Am I missing another board?

Just don't understand the ECU and Greenville hate. We have an old rivalry w/ UNCW. ECU hasn't been that bad in basketball the past few years. We beat Cincy & Memphis last year and look to be moving in the right direction. We're in a tough competitive conference.

Even before the game there were plenty of cheap shots at ECU as an institution. ECU is one of 7 NC universities that's listed as a top tier national university (top 200) per USNWR (Duke, WF, UNC, NCSU, UNCG, ECU & UNCC). Why all the vitriol?

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreview...rsity-2923

Yea-ECU is right there with Duke and Wake. If you dig deep enough maybe you find out it is really more like a Ivy League school and should think about joining the elite.