(12-01-2014 07:17 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 07:14 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 07:07 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 06:57 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  SBC schools with the best chances of replacing UAB. In order:

1) Texas State -CUSA knows that the AAC covets the San Antonio market
and that UTSA would be a likely choice if the AAC needed a
replacement member. Texas State would keep south central
Texas in the CUSA footprint.

2) UL-L -Best overall athletic program in the SBC. They're located
in CUSA's western footprint, which is a plus. They also have
the support of La Tech (if that makes any difference).

3) GA State -Their addition to CUSA would bring Georgia into the CUSA
footprint. Good MBB program is attractive to CUSA East
members.

4) USA -The loss of UAB takes CUSA out of the state of Alabama. The
addition of USA would rectify that. Not much else there.

4) Ark St -Second best overall athletic program in the SBC. Their
addition to CUSA would add Arkansas to CUSA's footprint.

5) GA Sou -Dang good football program. Not so good olympic sports.
In a year or two, they'll be a front runner.

6) App St -Just like GA Southern, good football. Not so good olympic
sports. They too, will be much stronger in two years.

How about no, these lists mean nothing. Not only do you hold zero power to come up with this, UAB still is in CUSA, but half these schools or more do not want into CUSA.

Granted the list means nothing, but don't kid yourself . . . Any school offered would be GONE in a N.Y. Minute. . . . . Including us . . . As long as C USA is deemed a move up, they'll continue to be able to "cherry pick" whom they want in the SBC

This list is purely conjecture on my part. I did not mean to insinuate that I knew what I was talking about.

I understood your intent, and as you have us listed number one to go, I hope you're right . . . . (Would love to play all those Tejas schools year in and year out). The newbie intimated that half the schools on your list don't want to go, I say that notion's a crock . . . .

(12-01-2014 06:57 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  SBC schools with the best chances of replacing UAB. In order:

1) Texas State -CUSA knows that the AAC covets the San Antonio market
and that UTSA would be a likely choice if the AAC needed a
replacement member. Texas State would keep south central
Texas in the CUSA footprint.

2) UL-L -Best overall athletic program in the SBC. They're located
in CUSA's western footprint, which is a plus. They also have
the support of La Tech (if that makes any difference).

3) GA State -Their addition to CUSA would bring Georgia into the CUSA
footprint. Good MBB program is attractive to CUSA East
members.

4) USA -The loss of UAB takes CUSA out of the state of Alabama. The
addition of USA would rectify that. Not much else there.

4) Ark St -Second best overall athletic program in the SBC. Their
addition to CUSA would add Arkansas to CUSA's footprint.

5) GA Sou -Dang good football program. Not so good olympic sports.
In a year or two, they'll be a front runner.

6) App St -Just like GA Southern, good football. Not so good olympic
sports. They too, will be much stronger in two years.

Our baseball, softball, volleyball, cheerleading, soccer has been very solid for many years. Basketball is our achilles heel and it looks like our 2nd year head coach is cleaning that up nicely.

(12-01-2014 07:22 PM)I AM an Eagle! Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 06:57 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  SBC schools with the best chances of replacing UAB. In order:

1) Texas State -CUSA knows that the AAC covets the San Antonio market
and that UTSA would be a likely choice if the AAC needed a
replacement member. Texas State would keep south central
Texas in the CUSA footprint.

2) UL-L -Best overall athletic program in the SBC. They're located
in CUSA's western footprint, which is a plus. They also have
the support of La Tech (if that makes any difference).

3) GA State -Their addition to CUSA would bring Georgia into the CUSA
footprint. Good MBB program is attractive to CUSA East
members.

4) USA -The loss of UAB takes CUSA out of the state of Alabama. The
addition of USA would rectify that. Not much else there.

4) Ark St -Second best overall athletic program in the SBC. Their
addition to CUSA would add Arkansas to CUSA's footprint.

5) GA Sou -Dang good football program. Not so good olympic sports.
In a year or two, they'll be a front runner.

6) App St -Just like GA Southern, good football. Not so good olympic
sports. They too, will be much stronger in two years.

Our baseball, softball, volleyball, cheerleading, soccer has been very solid for many years. Basketball is our achilles heel and it looks like our 2nd year head coach is cleaning that up nicely.

Golf is perennially in the NCAA tourney as well.

(11-30-2014 08:43 PM)JSinLR Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 08:20 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 08:17 PM)cajunhawk2 Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 06:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 06:08 PM)cajunhawk2 Wrote:  Man if you really think this is why we want out...I feel sorry for you. We don't want to be associated with you...at all. I know that hurts your triple option hearts...but it's the truth. 1-AA callups are not who we wanna be conference mates with.

UTSA, ODU, and Charlotte would like to have a word with you.

So does the rest of the OLD Sunbelt.

WKU, FIU, FAU. All FCS Callups

You want to play in a league without Call Ups, you better get yourself into a P5 league.

Add MTSU and Marshall as recent move ups too.

Didn't north Texas play AA ball too?

That's the one thing that frustrates me with the Sun Belt fans: no pride in the conference.

While so many Sun Belt member fans are selling their souls for people to pay attention to them and their schools on the CUSA board, remind yourself how lucky you and your institution are to be in a conference that has helped you to grow. Is the Sun Belt the ideal conference for every single member? No, but would CUSA be ideal in every facet? No.

As an App State fan, I am more than happy with where we are. The closest school to App is a long ways away, but you don't see us complaining about it or looking for the door as soon as one cracks one. We are here to stick around. If we are called up one day, we'll make the best decision, but until that time comes, you won't see me or many of our fans trying to pimp ourselves out to any other conference just to get looks.

Take pride in what the Sun Belt has become, as people are taking note of the conference and its members, or continue to pimp yourself out to the vultures and hope they pick you so we can find your replacement as soon as possible. The choice is yours.

(12-01-2014 08:00 PM)rknj8993 Wrote:  That's the one thing that frustrates me with the Sun Belt fans: no pride in the conference.

While so many Sun Belt member fans are selling their souls for people to pay attention to them and their schools on the CUSA board, remind yourself how lucky you and your institution are to be in a conference that has helped you to grow. Is the Sun Belt the ideal conference for every single member? No, but would CUSA be ideal in every facet? No.

As an App State fan, I am more than happy with where we are. The closest school to App is a long ways away, but you don't see us complaining about it or looking for the door as soon as one cracks one. We are here to stick around. If we are called up one day, we'll make the best decision, but until that time comes, you won't see me or many of our fans trying to pimp ourselves out to any other conference just to get looks.

Take pride in what the Sun Belt has become, as people are taking note of the conference and its members, or continue to pimp yourself out to the vultures and hope they pick you so we can find your replacement as soon as possible. The choice is yours.

That's funny coming from a school that initially didn't want anything to do with the Sun Belt, and was holding out for a C USA bid . . . . . . I'm glad that you're NOW glad to be here though. . . .

(12-01-2014 07:17 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 07:14 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 07:07 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 06:57 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  SBC schools with the best chances of replacing UAB. In order:

1) Texas State -CUSA knows that the AAC covets the San Antonio market
and that UTSA would be a likely choice if the AAC needed a
replacement member. Texas State would keep south central
Texas in the CUSA footprint.

2) UL-L -Best overall athletic program in the SBC. They're located
in CUSA's western footprint, which is a plus. They also have
the support of La Tech (if that makes any difference).

3) GA State -Their addition to CUSA would bring Georgia into the CUSA
footprint. Good MBB program is attractive to CUSA East
members.

4) USA -The loss of UAB takes CUSA out of the state of Alabama. The
addition of USA would rectify that. Not much else there.

4) Ark St -Second best overall athletic program in the SBC. Their
addition to CUSA would add Arkansas to CUSA's footprint.

5) GA Sou -Dang good football program. Not so good olympic sports.
In a year or two, they'll be a front runner.

6) App St -Just like GA Southern, good football. Not so good olympic
sports. They too, will be much stronger in two years.

How about no, these lists mean nothing. Not only do you hold zero power to come up with this, UAB still is in CUSA, but half these schools or more do not want into CUSA.

Granted the list means nothing, but don't kid yourself . . . Any school offered would be GONE in a N.Y. Minute. . . . . Including us . . . As long as C USA is deemed a move up, they'll continue to be able to "cherry pick" whom they want in the SBC

This list is purely conjecture on my part. I did not mean to insinuate that I knew what I was talking about.

It was clear to me that you didn't, but he will learn.

(12-01-2014 08:14 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 08:00 PM)rknj8993 Wrote:  That's the one thing that frustrates me with the Sun Belt fans: no pride in the conference.

While so many Sun Belt member fans are selling their souls for people to pay attention to them and their schools on the CUSA board, remind yourself how lucky you and your institution are to be in a conference that has helped you to grow. Is the Sun Belt the ideal conference for every single member? No, but would CUSA be ideal in every facet? No.

As an App State fan, I am more than happy with where we are. The closest school to App is a long ways away, but you don't see us complaining about it or looking for the door as soon as one cracks one. We are here to stick around. If we are called up one day, we'll make the best decision, but until that time comes, you won't see me or many of our fans trying to pimp ourselves out to any other conference just to get looks.

Take pride in what the Sun Belt has become, as people are taking note of the conference and its members, or continue to pimp yourself out to the vultures and hope they pick you so we can find your replacement as soon as possible. The choice is yours.

That's funny coming from a school that initially didn't want anything to do with the Sun Belt, and was holding out for a C USA bid . . . . . . I'm glad that you're NOW glad to be here though. . . .

So, what we wanted in the past now effects the fact that we are proud members of the Sun Belt? We wanted the ACC way back in the day, but I guess we'll settle with the Sun Belt. Feel free to get off your high horse now.

(12-01-2014 08:18 PM)rknj8993 Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 08:14 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 08:00 PM)rknj8993 Wrote:  That's the one thing that frustrates me with the Sun Belt fans: no pride in the conference.

While so many Sun Belt member fans are selling their souls for people to pay attention to them and their schools on the CUSA board, remind yourself how lucky you and your institution are to be in a conference that has helped you to grow. Is the Sun Belt the ideal conference for every single member? No, but would CUSA be ideal in every facet? No.

As an App State fan, I am more than happy with where we are. The closest school to App is a long ways away, but you don't see us complaining about it or looking for the door as soon as one cracks one. We are here to stick around. If we are called up one day, we'll make the best decision, but until that time comes, you won't see me or many of our fans trying to pimp ourselves out to any other conference just to get looks.

Take pride in what the Sun Belt has become, as people are taking note of the conference and its members, or continue to pimp yourself out to the vultures and hope they pick you so we can find your replacement as soon as possible. The choice is yours.

That's funny coming from a school that initially didn't want anything to do with the Sun Belt, and was holding out for a C USA bid . . . . . . I'm glad that you're NOW glad to be here though. . . .

So, what we wanted in the past now effects the fact that we are proud members of the Sun Belt? We wanted the ACC way back in the day, but I guess we'll settle with the Sun Belt. Feel free to get off your high horse now.

Strike a nerve, did I? Son, this is TEXAS, we're fond of horses . . . High or otherwise .. . . . .

(12-01-2014 08:14 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 08:00 PM)rknj8993 Wrote:  That's the one thing that frustrates me with the Sun Belt fans: no pride in the conference.

While so many Sun Belt member fans are selling their souls for people to pay attention to them and their schools on the CUSA board, remind yourself how lucky you and your institution are to be in a conference that has helped you to grow. Is the Sun Belt the ideal conference for every single member? No, but would CUSA be ideal in every facet? No.

As an App State fan, I am more than happy with where we are. The closest school to App is a long ways away, but you don't see us complaining about it or looking for the door as soon as one cracks one. We are here to stick around. If we are called up one day, we'll make the best decision, but until that time comes, you won't see me or many of our fans trying to pimp ourselves out to any other conference just to get looks.

Take pride in what the Sun Belt has become, as people are taking note of the conference and its members, or continue to pimp yourself out to the vultures and hope they pick you so we can find your replacement as soon as possible. The choice is yours.

That's funny coming from a school that initially didn't want anything to do with the Sun Belt, and was holding out for a C USA bid . . . . . . I'm glad that you're NOW glad to be here though. . . .

I see why the Ga South posters don't like you. Our fans liked the SBC after we got into the expansion process. It took some time and you are right CUSA was our top destination due to renewing rivalries against Marshall and ECU. CUSA was set on finding teams in urban areas regardless of what support they had. ECU left for the AAC and we soon found the SBC was a logical choice once Ga Southern announced they wanted to move too. We like the SBC now that we are in it. I wish the schools who don't want to be here would go to CUSA or go back to FCS. Then we can call up more teams with like minded aspirations

(12-01-2014 08:21 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 08:14 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 08:00 PM)rknj8993 Wrote:  That's the one thing that frustrates me with the Sun Belt fans: no pride in the conference.

While so many Sun Belt member fans are selling their souls for people to pay attention to them and their schools on the CUSA board, remind yourself how lucky you and your institution are to be in a conference that has helped you to grow. Is the Sun Belt the ideal conference for every single member? No, but would CUSA be ideal in every facet? No.

As an App State fan, I am more than happy with where we are. The closest school to App is a long ways away, but you don't see us complaining about it or looking for the door as soon as one cracks one. We are here to stick around. If we are called up one day, we'll make the best decision, but until that time comes, you won't see me or many of our fans trying to pimp ourselves out to any other conference just to get looks.

Take pride in what the Sun Belt has become, as people are taking note of the conference and its members, or continue to pimp yourself out to the vultures and hope they pick you so we can find your replacement as soon as possible. The choice is yours.

That's funny coming from a school that initially didn't want anything to do with the Sun Belt, and was holding out for a C USA bid . . . . . . I'm glad that you're NOW glad to be here though. . . .

I see why the Ga South posters don't like you. Our fans liked the SBC after we got into the expansion process. It took some time and you are right CUSA was our top destination due to renewing rivalries against Marshall and ECU. CUSA was set on finding teams in urban areas regardless of what support they had. ECU left for the AAC and we soon found the SBC was a logical choice once Ga Southern announced they wanted to move too. We like the SBC now that we are in it just fine.

Glad to hear it. Welcome aboard!

I don't know if it was just drunk talk (we were drinking & watching football together at the time after all) but a friend of mine very high up in the athletic department at USA told me our university had zero interest in joining the new C-USA after the Sun Belt defections because of the extremely wide footprint, especially considering the Olympic sports. Of course, bear in mind this was months ago so it's possible this mindset may have changed with the latest developments.

He also told me NMSU had been begging for the SBC to accept them in all sports and the SBC turned down their request preferring them for football only for the same reason above (Olympic sports).

FWIW

(12-01-2014 08:24 PM)airtroop Wrote:  I don't know if it was just drunk talk (we were drinking & watching football together at the time after all) but a friend of mine very high up in the athletic department at USA told me our university had zero interest in joining the new C-USA after the Sun Belt defections because of the extremely wide footprint, especially considering the Olympic sports. Of course, bear in mind this was months ago so it's possible this mindset may have changed with the latest developments.

He also told me NMSU had been begging for the SBC to accept them in all sports and the SBC turned down their request preferring them for football only for the same reason above (Olympic sports).

FWIW

I'd love to have NMSU for all sports . . . . Their basketball is awesome, and their baseball's not too bad either . . .

(11-30-2014 06:10 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 06:08 PM)cajunhawk2 Wrote:  

(11-30-2014 05:45 PM)The Black Flag Wrote:  stAte and ULL fans are begging to get out of this conference now that there is a new sheriff in town.

(11-30-2014 06:05 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  [quote='chiefsfan' pid='11466393' dateline='1417388605']
[quote='The Black Flag' pid='11466251' dateline='1417387548']
stAte and ULL fans are begging to get out of this conference now that there is a new sheriff in town.

Man if you really think this is why we want out...I feel sorry for you. We don't want to be associated with you...at all. I know that hurts your triple option hearts...but it's the truth. 1-AA callups are not who we wanna be conference mates with.

UTSA, ODU, and Charlotte would like to have a word with you.

Post of the week!

(12-01-2014 08:00 PM)rknj8993 Wrote:  That's the one thing that frustrates me with the Sun Belt fans: no pride in the conference.

While so many Sun Belt member fans are selling their souls for people to pay attention to them and their schools on the CUSA board, remind yourself how lucky you and your institution are to be in a conference that has helped you to grow. Is the Sun Belt the ideal conference for every single member? No, but would CUSA be ideal in every facet? No.

As an App State fan, I am more than happy with where we are. The closest school to App is a long ways away, but you don't see us complaining about it or looking for the door as soon as one cracks one. We are here to stick around. If we are called up one day, we'll make the best decision, but until that time comes, you won't see me or many of our fans trying to pimp ourselves out to any other conference just to get looks.

Take pride in what the Sun Belt has become, as people are taking note of the conference and its members, or continue to pimp yourself out to the vultures and hope they pick you so we can find your replacement as soon as possible. The choice is yours.

There's one fan base of a plausible pick that you haven't seen pimpin'. 'Jus sayin'

For me, I don't see CUSA membership really changing the game all that much as far as our program goes. Sure, if a bid comes, I'm sure USA will look at it. But its not a slam dunk or going to transform USA into Houston or UCF overnight. USA in CUSA will face many of the same challenges that we face in the Sun Belt. The bigger problem that we ALL pretty much need to watch out for is the precedent that UAB dropping football might have on ALL of our programs. And that includes programs in the Sun Belt and CUSA. UAB's demise is not good news for ANY of us.

Instead of grasping at a shiny metal object, it would be nice if people stood back and understood that what is happening in Birmingham in 2014, might be repeated in Atlanta or Boca Raton or Moscow or Las Cruces or elsewhere in 2015 or 2016

(12-01-2014 08:26 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 08:24 PM)airtroop Wrote:  I don't know if it was just drunk talk (we were drinking & watching football together at the time after all) but a friend of mine very high up in the athletic department at USA told me our university had zero interest in joining the new C-USA after the Sun Belt defections because of the extremely wide footprint, especially considering the Olympic sports. Of course, bear in mind this was months ago so it's possible this mindset may have changed with the latest developments.

He also told me NMSU had been begging for the SBC to accept them in all sports and the SBC turned down their request preferring them for football only for the same reason above (Olympic sports).

FWIW

I'd love to have NMSU for all sports . . . . Their basketball is awesome, and their baseball's not too bad either . . .

Of course! Then there's golf, volleyball, chess, debate teams, softball, etc., etc., etc.

(12-01-2014 08:15 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 07:17 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 07:14 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 07:07 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  

(12-01-2014 06:57 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  SBC schools with the best chances of replacing UAB. In order:

1) Texas State -CUSA knows that the AAC covets the San Antonio market
and that UTSA would be a likely choice if the AAC needed a
replacement member. Texas State would keep south central
Texas in the CUSA footprint.

2) UL-L -Best overall athletic program in the SBC. They're located
in CUSA's western footprint, which is a plus. They also have
the support of La Tech (if that makes any difference).

3) GA State -Their addition to CUSA would bring Georgia into the CUSA
footprint. Good MBB program is attractive to CUSA East
members.

4) USA -The loss of UAB takes CUSA out of the state of Alabama. The
addition of USA would rectify that. Not much else there.

4) Ark St -Second best overall athletic program in the SBC. Their
addition to CUSA would add Arkansas to CUSA's footprint.

5) GA Sou -Dang good football program. Not so good olympic sports.
In a year or two, they'll be a front runner.

6) App St -Just like GA Southern, good football. Not so good olympic
sports. They too, will be much stronger in two years.

How about no, these lists mean nothing. Not only do you hold zero power to come up with this, UAB still is in CUSA, but half these schools or more do not want into CUSA.

Granted the list means nothing, but don't kid yourself . . . Any school offered would be GONE in a N.Y. Minute. . . . . Including us . . . As long as C USA is deemed a move up, they'll continue to be able to "cherry pick" whom they want in the SBC

This list is purely conjecture on my part. I did not mean to insinuate that I knew what I was talking about.

It was clear to me that you didn't, but he will learn.

Yeah, saying UL-L had the best overall athletic program in the SBC was pushing it a bit. Seriously, I was giving you guys props for the performances of your teams for the last 12 months. You had winning football and MBB teams (the sports that matter in conference realignment), and a heck of a baseball season. Good luck in the coming days. I think it'll be close between UL and Texas State.