(05-08-2014 08:07 AM)Eagles Cliff Wrote:  It will be interesting to see this play out. It's a good idea, but the folks in South Georgia need to watch the money on this one. I saw a $300 million figure thrown out there. GA State Athletics are already 86% subsidized and other schools have to jump through hoops and bow three times to get $30 million for faculty support.

It's a great idea and would be great for GAST, but not with public funds.

Again, the Athletic budget and it being subsidized has nothing to do with the project. The $300 million figure is for the total project. Much of it is private development including the retail and the student housing. Regarding the stadiums portions I would be shocked if we get much if any help from the state. Although if I am Becker and Reed I am making a preservationist pitch anyway. You never know. If we get no it will be up to the GSU Foundation to figure this out.

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(05-08-2014 08:19 AM)panama Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 08:07 AM)Eagles Cliff Wrote:  It will be interesting to see this play out. It's a good idea, but the folks in South Georgia need to watch the money on this one. I saw a $300 million figure thrown out there. GA State Athletics are already 86% subsidized and other schools have to jump through hoops and bow three times to get $30 million for faculty support.

It's a great idea and would be great for GAST, but not with public funds.

Again, the Athletic budget and it being subsidized has nothing to do with the project. The $300 million figure is for the total project. Much of it is private development including the retail and the student housing. Regarding the stadiums portions I would be shocked if we get much if any help from the state. Although if I am Becker and Reed I am making a preservationist pitch anyway. You never know. If we get no it will be up to the GSU Foundation to figure this out.

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I would be shocked if we don't get state help. Everyone down there realizes that this is a once-in-forever opportunity for the school that they have already determined to be the third jewel in the BOR crown. It is redevelopment right across the street from the Gold Dome - and it includes "Hank Aaron Field" (we all know that will be the name). Throw that in and no legislator or admin is going to have the political capital to stand up against it.

(05-08-2014 08:36 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  I would be shocked if we don't get state help. Everyone down there realizes that this is a once-in-forever opportunity for the school that they have already determined to be the third jewel in the BOR crown. It is redevelopment right across the street from the Gold Dome - and it includes "Hank Aaron Field" (we all know that will be the name). Throw that in and no legislator or admin is going to have the political capital to stand up against it.

Could we get a Dale Murphy Drive around there somewhere too?

(05-07-2014 03:31 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Sounds as if you would have a track around your football stadium if you get it.

Where do you hear/see that?

This is not the exact olympic stadium footprint - the east side would be moved inward, so there would not be a track (we don't have a track team anyway).

(05-08-2014 09:04 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 03:31 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Sounds as if you would have a track around your football stadium if you get it.

Where do you hear/see that?

This is not the exact olympic stadium footprint - the east side would be moved inward, so there would not be a track (we don't have a track team anyway).

We have Women's track and field.

And as per the first AJC Article(http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/college/g...t/nfq8R/):
"The stadium’s proposed design would also allow it to host soccer and track and field."

(05-08-2014 09:19 AM)Tuscon Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 09:04 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 03:31 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Sounds as if you would have a track around your football stadium if you get it.

Where do you hear/see that?

This is not the exact olympic stadium footprint - the east side would be moved inward, so there would not be a track (we don't have a track team anyway).

We have Women's track and field.

And as per the first AJC Article(http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/college/g...t/nfq8R/):
"The stadium’s proposed design would also allow it to host soccer and track and field."

Um no...do not screw this up Becker. THey need to purchase the Georgia Archives site and DDS north of this property and do it there.

(05-08-2014 08:39 AM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 08:36 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  I would be shocked if we don't get state help. Everyone down there realizes that this is a once-in-forever opportunity for the school that they have already determined to be the third jewel in the BOR crown. It is redevelopment right across the street from the Gold Dome - and it includes "Hank Aaron Field" (we all know that will be the name). Throw that in and no legislator or admin is going to have the political capital to stand up against it.

Could we get a Dale Murphy Drive around there somewhere too?

Really? I was a huge Murph fan but come on.

(05-08-2014 10:17 AM)panama Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 09:19 AM)Tuscon Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 09:04 AM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 03:31 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Sounds as if you would have a track around your football stadium if you get it.

Where do you hear/see that?

This is not the exact olympic stadium footprint - the east side would be moved inward, so there would not be a track (we don't have a track team anyway).

We have Women's track and field.

And as per the first AJC Article(http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/college/g...t/nfq8R/):
"The stadium’s proposed design would also allow it to host soccer and track and field."

Um no...do not screw this up Becker. THey need to purchase the Georgia Archives site and DDS north of this property and do it there.

Indeed, a track around the stadium is amateurish and would be an eyesore.

Very nice proposal. Glad to see yall jumping at the opportunity. Re-purposing the Ted is great for football, but I think using the Hank Aaron wall is REALLY awesome. Telling kids they could hit a home run over a piece of history is just about as cool as it gets.

I'm curious to see how the funds play out after the BoR gave us such a hard time. Best of luck to you guys.

While the state by itself might not just hand us money, i would imagine the city will be a big player in this project. While this is primarily a campus expansion, it is also an urban renewal and preservation project. There are already things the government could do to chip in (i.e., create a TAD in the area) that could go toward some of it. Having the mayors backing would be a huge boon. Also, the private portion of the project will most likely get some government support also, with some of it being subsidized for affordable housing, and getting some portion of a TAD also.

At any rate, i think no matter what project was chosen to go at the site, it would have to be something that the mayor backed and supported. I think this'll still be the case with GSU.

(05-08-2014 11:08 AM)itsmeagain Wrote:  While the state by itself might not just hand us money, i would imagine the city will be a big player in this project. While this is primarily a campus expansion, it is also an urban renewal and preservation project. There are already things the government could do to chip in (i.e., create a TAD in the area) that could go toward some of it. Having the mayors backing would be a huge boon. Also, the private portion of the project will most likely get some government support also, with some of it being subsidized for affordable housing, and getting some portion of a TAD also.

At any rate, i think no matter what project was chosen to go at the site, it would have to be something that the mayor backed and supported. I think this'll still be the case with GSU.

Mayor Reed already said that the City will not be paying for any of it. State University, state funds. I am sure state taxes would help pay for it. So thanks in advance Georgia Southern fans!

The city and county can help by reducing the purchase praise to near zero. That would help a lot.

(05-08-2014 11:12 AM)GaStateChris Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 11:08 AM)itsmeagain Wrote:  While the state by itself might not just hand us money, i would imagine the city will be a big player in this project. While this is primarily a campus expansion, it is also an urban renewal and preservation project. There are already things the government could do to chip in (i.e., create a TAD in the area) that could go toward some of it. Having the mayors backing would be a huge boon. Also, the private portion of the project will most likely get some government support also, with some of it being subsidized for affordable housing, and getting some portion of a TAD also.

At any rate, i think no matter what project was chosen to go at the site, it would have to be something that the mayor backed and supported. I think this'll still be the case with GSU.

Mayor Reed already said that the City will not be paying for any of it. State University, state funds. I am sure state taxes would help pay for it. So thanks in advance Georgia Southern fans!

This repurposing of the Ted screams naming rights, it shouldn't be any problem. If Turner, or Blank, or Marcus want that honor or you name the corporation, Coke, Delta, Home Depot, whoever, I'm sure they'll come up with the stadium money.


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(05-08-2014 11:32 AM)DawggoneEagle Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 11:12 AM)GaStateChris Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 11:08 AM)itsmeagain Wrote:  While the state by itself might not just hand us money, i would imagine the city will be a big player in this project. While this is primarily a campus expansion, it is also an urban renewal and preservation project. There are already things the government could do to chip in (i.e., create a TAD in the area) that could go toward some of it. Having the mayors backing would be a huge boon. Also, the private portion of the project will most likely get some government support also, with some of it being subsidized for affordable housing, and getting some portion of a TAD also.

At any rate, i think no matter what project was chosen to go at the site, it would have to be something that the mayor backed and supported. I think this'll still be the case with GSU.

Mayor Reed already said that the City will not be paying for any of it. State University, state funds. I am sure state taxes would help pay for it. So thanks in advance Georgia Southern fans!

This repurposing of the Ted screams naming rights, it shouldn't be any problem. If Turner, or Blank, or Marcus want that honor or you name the corporation, Coke, Delta, Home Depot, whoever, I'm sure they'll come up with the stadium money.


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That will defray the costs of re-purposing the stadium and I am sure there is no shortage of Atlanta companies who would write a check.

especially being so close to the interstate. That is prime advertising location. Could be some serious coin. again good luck. 2018 could see a new Braves, Falcons, and GSU stadium in ATL. Going to be nice when it's all done.

(05-07-2014 03:51 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 03:50 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 03:43 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 03:39 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 03:37 PM)panama Wrote:  Its is an NFL class facility. Its a great facility. There were 3 options presented in 2009 and we took the best one just as we are intending to do now.

the Dome is a great facility. But all the "dome" debates involved state fans ranting and raving how it is so great, and so much better than what Southern provides, and our argument was that the game day environment was way better, and you guys disagreed. Now a school official is basically backing our side of that.

It is quite humorous.

The ranting and raving as you put it has ALWAYS been in response to trolling about how horrible GSU and the Dome are for being in a black gay ghetto city...ALWAYS...like now. Nothing occurs in a vacuum and we dont just randonmly start lauding the Dome. Back on topic.

My stance has always been that the Dome is a horrible environment for a college football game. I don't recall ever going down the "black gay ghetto city" path....so I'm not sure what you're getting at there.

Then you just started posting yesterday and likely dont have a gsufans login. Carry on.

Back on topic.

You did at one time, and lets not link to your fans posts on our boards back in the day before you got humbled, in case you are getting on your high horse.

On topic, this would be a huge deal for GSU. With so few options for non vertical growth this opportunity will likely never come around again. I dont like the way the stadium looks at all but probably not the final product. I say it is 50/50 on this, GSU gonna have to outbid some big developers that have plenty of under the table cash to give ole Kasim and the city council. The BOR would likely be in control of the bids which would limit ATL control over it.

Penn State is gonna love it.

(05-08-2014 11:12 AM)GaStateChris Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 11:08 AM)itsmeagain Wrote:  While the state by itself might not just hand us money, i would imagine the city will be a big player in this project. While this is primarily a campus expansion, it is also an urban renewal and preservation project. There are already things the government could do to chip in (i.e., create a TAD in the area) that could go toward some of it. Having the mayors backing would be a huge boon. Also, the private portion of the project will most likely get some government support also, with some of it being subsidized for affordable housing, and getting some portion of a TAD also.

At any rate, i think no matter what project was chosen to go at the site, it would have to be something that the mayor backed and supported. I think this'll still be the case with GSU.

Mayor Reed already said that the City will not be paying for any of it. State University, state funds. I am sure state taxes would help pay for it. So thanks in advance Georgia Southern fans!

Well if it is like our expansion the athletic facilities will have to be paid for by GaSt either with even higher athletic fees which are some of the highest in the state already or donations. The dorms and educational buildings would likely be the only thing funded by the state like at every school.

(05-08-2014 12:55 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 11:12 AM)GaStateChris Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 11:08 AM)itsmeagain Wrote:  While the state by itself might not just hand us money, i would imagine the city will be a big player in this project. While this is primarily a campus expansion, it is also an urban renewal and preservation project. There are already things the government could do to chip in (i.e., create a TAD in the area) that could go toward some of it. Having the mayors backing would be a huge boon. Also, the private portion of the project will most likely get some government support also, with some of it being subsidized for affordable housing, and getting some portion of a TAD also.

At any rate, i think no matter what project was chosen to go at the site, it would have to be something that the mayor backed and supported. I think this'll still be the case with GSU.

Mayor Reed already said that the City will not be paying for any of it. State University, state funds. I am sure state taxes would help pay for it. So thanks in advance Georgia Southern fans!

Well if it is like our expansion the athletic facilities will have to be paid for by GaSt either with even higher athletic fees which are some of the highest in the state already or donations. The dorms and educational buildings would likely be the only thing funded by the state like at every school.

It has already been stated multiple times: No student fee increase. The student housing is private.

(05-08-2014 12:55 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 11:12 AM)GaStateChris Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 11:08 AM)itsmeagain Wrote:  While the state by itself might not just hand us money, i would imagine the city will be a big player in this project. While this is primarily a campus expansion, it is also an urban renewal and preservation project. There are already things the government could do to chip in (i.e., create a TAD in the area) that could go toward some of it. Having the mayors backing would be a huge boon. Also, the private portion of the project will most likely get some government support also, with some of it being subsidized for affordable housing, and getting some portion of a TAD also.

At any rate, i think no matter what project was chosen to go at the site, it would have to be something that the mayor backed and supported. I think this'll still be the case with GSU.

Mayor Reed already said that the City will not be paying for any of it. State University, state funds. I am sure state taxes would help pay for it. So thanks in advance Georgia Southern fans!

Well if it is like our expansion the athletic facilities will have to be paid for by GaSt either with even higher athletic fees which are some of the highest in the state already or donations. The dorms and educational buildings would likely be the only thing funded by the state like at every school.

That's not correct. We were able to use some university funds for football practice facility because the marching band houses their equipment and practices there. There are ways around it, like I said. All about the sales pitch.

President Becker already said there will be no fee increase.


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