#11 Ajou Ajou WR from Clemson signs with USF

(12-15-2021 09:41 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  #11 Ajou Ajou WR from Clemson signs with USF

Monster addition. He is very talented and still growing/learning.

USF still with the number one transfer class in the country according to 247.

https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Footba...mRankings/

That’s a thing?

Lol

Feel like transfer season is just about to start now that we have Early Signing Day completed.

Now teams know where there gaps are and will start digging into the transfer portal.

(12-15-2021 01:21 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  That’s a thing?

Lol

Yeah, it really is.

That transfer portal is a big deal.

(12-15-2021 01:36 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Feel like transfer season is just about to start now that we have Early Signing Day completed.

Now teams know where there gaps are and will start digging into the transfer portal.

USF still has room for 8 more in this class whether they are freshmen or transfers

(12-15-2021 04:18 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(12-15-2021 01:36 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Feel like transfer season is just about to start now that we have Early Signing Day completed.

Now teams know where there gaps are and will start digging into the transfer portal.

USF still has room for 8 more in this class whether they are freshmen or transfers

Sounds about right, according to our HC Gus we are looking to sign 10 more in this class.

I like it. Great way to get things back on track fast, plus USF's HS recruit average is middle of the road in the AAC -- which, honestly, isn't bad at all considering 3 schools are Big 12 bound and USF doesn't have a lot of recent success to recruit on.

lol, I mean, Mike Lofton rode the bench for 2 years at UCF on the 3rd string.

No one has seen him play a football game for 2 years, yet he's graded out by 247 as higher than many other transfers on usf's class from elsewhere. How exactly are these "evaluations" being done?

(12-16-2021 01:27 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  lol, I mean, Mike Lofton rode the bench for 2 years at UCF on the 3rd string.

No one has seen him play a football game for 2 years, yet he's graded out by 247 as higher than many other transfers on usf's class from elsewhere. How exactly are these "evaluations" being done?

The same way all the others are done. An eye test by whoever is grading them. How do they know those HS kids that are getting high four stars or three stars will do anything in college? All of those kids are getting a higher rating than .8300 that this kid is getting.

We return our entire offensive line, so he will have to beat them out to start, if he does great, if he doesn’t well he has a few years to improve.

Is funny how fans on this board try to put down what other schools get while praising their recruits that haven’t played a down in college. By the way I’m pretty sure you guys were praising landing him from HS.

At the end of the day a recruiting class will be judged years later by accomplishments on the field not by rankings by experts before the6 even play a down.

USF got #12 today Defensive end Jatorian Hansford 6’4 258 from Mizzou

So I was totally unfamiliar with transfer rankings so I looked at 247 to see what this was about and it seems like about 40% of the players in the portal have not made any kind of commitment yet. At least of the top 100 players. So does it not seem a bit premature to be broadcasting rankings? Seems like usf is filling much needed holes with quality players and that is the thing to be stressing. I don't seen any other posts or tweets about portal rankings from other schools, so it just seemed a bit odd to be flexing publically about the ranking.

(12-16-2021 03:20 PM)Noise Penalty Wrote:  So I was totally unfamiliar with transfer rankings so I looked at 247 to see what this was about and it seems like about 40% of the players in the portal have not made any kind of commitment yet. At least of the top 100 players. So does it not seem a bit premature to be broadcasting rankings? Seems like usf is filling much needed holes with quality players and that is the thing to be stressing. I don't seen any other posts or tweets about portal rankings from other schools, so it just seemed a bit odd to be flexing publically about the ranking.

Do I have to point you to any of the 100+ threads about any and all things UCF on this site? Can USF not have any threads without UCF fans turning them into **** shows. Perhaps the USF fans were just using the ratings to show they were getting quality players. Yet, here comes a UCF fan to swear that ratings don't matter with anything USF. I means seriously, WTF is wrong with you people.

(12-16-2021 03:20 PM)Noise Penalty Wrote:  So I was totally unfamiliar with transfer rankings so I looked at 247 to see what this was about and it seems like about 40% of the players in the portal have not made any kind of commitment yet. At least of the top 100 players. So does it not seem a bit premature to be broadcasting rankings? Seems like usf is filling much needed holes with quality players and that is the thing to be stressing. I don't seen any other posts or tweets about portal rankings from other schools, so it just seemed a bit odd to be flexing publically about the ranking.

LOL and this bothers you because?

(12-16-2021 02:18 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(12-16-2021 01:27 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  lol, I mean, Mike Lofton rode the bench for 2 years at UCF on the 3rd string.

No one has seen him play a football game for 2 years, yet he's graded out by 247 as higher than many other transfers on usf's class from elsewhere. How exactly are these "evaluations" being done?

The same way all the others are done. An eye test by whoever is grading them. How do they know those HS kids that are getting high four stars or three stars will do anything in college? All of those kids are getting a higher rating than .8300

We return our entire offensive line, so he will have to beat them out to start, if he does great, if he doesn’t well he has a few years to improve.

Is funny how fans on this board try to put down what other schools get while praising their recruits that haven’t played a down in college. By the way I’m pretty sure you guys were praising landing him from HS.

At the end of the day a recruiting class will be judged years later by accomplishments on the field not by rankings by experts before the6 even play a down.

Not trying to put down USF, but he does ask a very good question. I don't put much faith in star ratings anyway, but at least with high school players you have current game tape. But for some of these transfers that rode the bench at their previous school, you have no game tape to evaluate them on and I doubt the guys that are rating them are sneaking into closed practices - so what could they possibly be using to evaluate them?

(12-16-2021 03:35 PM)RobUCF Wrote:  

(12-16-2021 02:18 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(12-16-2021 01:27 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  lol, I mean, Mike Lofton rode the bench for 2 years at UCF on the 3rd string.

No one has seen him play a football game for 2 years, yet he's graded out by 247 as higher than many other transfers on usf's class from elsewhere. How exactly are these "evaluations" being done?

The same way all the others are done. An eye test by whoever is grading them. How do they know those HS kids that are getting high four stars or three stars will do anything in college? All of those kids are getting a higher rating than .8300

We return our entire offensive line, so he will have to beat them out to start, if he does great, if he doesn’t well he has a few years to improve.

Is funny how fans on this board try to put down what other schools get while praising their recruits that haven’t played a down in college. By the way I’m pretty sure you guys were praising landing him from HS.

At the end of the day a recruiting class will be judged years later by accomplishments on the field not by rankings by experts before the6 even play a down.

Not trying to put down USF, but he does ask a very good question. I don't put much faith in star ratings anyway, but at least with high school players you have current game tape. But for some of these transfers that rode the bench at their previous school, you have no game tape to evaluate them on and I doubt the guys that are rating them are sneaking into closed practices - so what could they possibly be using to evaluate them?

My point is that he as well as many from your school have zero problems using rankings by the same site, the same evaluators to praise the high ranking of your class this year, but then start to Knick pick about ours.

Here is a hint if he is being badly evaluated, so are many others in your class and maybe your class ranking is as bogus as this kids ranking and our transfer ranking.

I have no problem with that, I have said it before that these rankings are more for fans and will be determined on the field.

What I have a problem with is someone ok with their rankings but then finding faults in others. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

(12-16-2021 03:39 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(12-16-2021 03:35 PM)RobUCF Wrote:  

(12-16-2021 02:18 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(12-16-2021 01:27 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  lol, I mean, Mike Lofton rode the bench for 2 years at UCF on the 3rd string.

No one has seen him play a football game for 2 years, yet he's graded out by 247 as higher than many other transfers on usf's class from elsewhere. How exactly are these "evaluations" being done?

The same way all the others are done. An eye test by whoever is grading them. How do they know those HS kids that are getting high four stars or three stars will do anything in college? All of those kids are getting a higher rating than .8300

We return our entire offensive line, so he will have to beat them out to start, if he does great, if he doesn’t well he has a few years to improve.

Is funny how fans on this board try to put down what other schools get while praising their recruits that haven’t played a down in college. By the way I’m pretty sure you guys were praising landing him from HS.

At the end of the day a recruiting class will be judged years later by accomplishments on the field not by rankings by experts before the6 even play a down.

Not trying to put down USF, but he does ask a very good question. I don't put much faith in star ratings anyway, but at least with high school players you have current game tape. But for some of these transfers that rode the bench at their previous school, you have no game tape to evaluate them on and I doubt the guys that are rating them are sneaking into closed practices - so what could they possibly be using to evaluate them?

My point is that he as well as many from your school have zero problems using rankings by the same site, the same evaluators to praise the high ranking of your class this year, but then start to Knick pick about ours.

Here is a hint if he is being badly evaluated, so are many others in your class and maybe your class ranking is as a bogus as this kids ranking and our transfer ranking.

I have no problem with that I have said it before that these rankings are more for fans and will be determined on the field.

What I have a problem with is someone ok with their rankings but then finding faults in others. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

I think he just raised his question. It's not the same. Ranking HS players based on footage from this year and a long history of scouting and ranking HS players over multiple decades is way different than ranking transfers that in some cases haven't been seen taking any snap in public other than a spring game in multiple years. To his point specifically, nobody has seen Lofton take a meaningful snap since his senior year of HS. How could his ranking possibly have gone up since then without any real playing time?

(12-16-2021 03:50 PM)MagicKnightmare Wrote:  

(12-16-2021 03:39 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(12-16-2021 03:35 PM)RobUCF Wrote:  

(12-16-2021 02:18 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(12-16-2021 01:27 PM)The Knight Time Wrote:  lol, I mean, Mike Lofton rode the bench for 2 years at UCF on the 3rd string.

No one has seen him play a football game for 2 years, yet he's graded out by 247 as higher than many other transfers on usf's class from elsewhere. How exactly are these "evaluations" being done?

The same way all the others are done. An eye test by whoever is grading them. How do they know those HS kids that are getting high four stars or three stars will do anything in college? All of those kids are getting a higher rating than .8300

We return our entire offensive line, so he will have to beat them out to start, if he does great, if he doesn’t well he has a few years to improve.

Is funny how fans on this board try to put down what other schools get while praising their recruits that haven’t played a down in college. By the way I’m pretty sure you guys were praising landing him from HS.

At the end of the day a recruiting class will be judged years later by accomplishments on the field not by rankings by experts before the6 even play a down.

Not trying to put down USF, but he does ask a very good question. I don't put much faith in star ratings anyway, but at least with high school players you have current game tape. But for some of these transfers that rode the bench at their previous school, you have no game tape to evaluate them on and I doubt the guys that are rating them are sneaking into closed practices - so what could they possibly be using to evaluate them?

My point is that he as well as many from your school have zero problems using rankings by the same site, the same evaluators to praise the high ranking of your class this year, but then start to Knick pick about ours.

Here is a hint if he is being badly evaluated, so are many others in your class and maybe your class ranking is as a bogus as this kids ranking and our transfer ranking.

I have no problem with that I have said it before that these rankings are more for fans and will be determined on the field.

What I have a problem with is someone ok with their rankings but then finding faults in others. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

I think he just raised his question. It's not the same. Ranking HS players based on footage from this year and a long history of scouting and ranking HS players over multiple decades is way different than ranking transfers that in some cases haven't been seen taking any snap in public other than a spring game in multiple years. To his point specifically, nobody has seen Lofton take a meaningful snap since his senior year of HS. How could his ranking possibly have gone up since then without any real playing time?

His ranking did not go up is lower than it was in HS. In fact most transfers rankings are way below what the avg three stars from HS are getting.

Don’t get all hanged up about rankings, some kids will develop others will not. Lofton’s value will be determined by what he does on the field in next three years not the stupid transfer ranking.

In fact there are others transferring in that got lower rankings that I think will have more impact next year

This thread is meaningless.

Recruiting rankings are meaningless.

College Sports at the end of the day are meaningless.

Sports in general, too.

Life is meaningless.



That said, there’s still coffee.

Good fraking morning everybody!!!


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