(07-26-2019 08:45 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  I want a Citronauts shirt

This.

(07-26-2019 09:36 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  I will go to my grave saying you should be the U of Florida at Orlando.

The UFO Citronauts. A license to print money.

UCF, hire this guy for your marketing NOW!

(07-27-2019 08:58 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Don't worry. There is a movement on the ground to go back to FTU.

Uh huh
Uh huh

(Places single finger on chin)

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I’d like to subscribe to your newsletter...

(07-27-2019 09:53 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 08:45 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  I want a Citronauts shirt

This.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

A thousand times this.

Wasn’t USF the University of Tampa at one point?

Was there a mascot change there, too?

(07-26-2019 09:03 PM)vick mike Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 08:45 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  The goal was to diversify into a comprehensive university and not be limited as a tech school. If we had stayed Florida Tech, we'd probably be 1/3 of the size we are today and look a lot more like Louisiana Tech than the Carnegie Research I we are.

Georgia Tech
Virginia Tech
Just sayin

This made me think. For me Virginia Tech kind of came out of nowhere in the football scene then one day I realized they were the team the host of the college scoreboard show would call VPI and whose score came right after the Slippery Rock game. The college football landscape has certainly changed since I was young. Other than a couple of traditional big names ABC used to treat everyone pretty much the same on the show they had after the game of the week.

(07-27-2019 11:18 AM)SMUleopold Wrote:  Wasn’t USF the University of Tampa at one point?

Was there a mascot change there, too?

No. USF has always been U of South Florida, and U of Tampa has (almost) always been U of Tampa.

(07-27-2019 08:36 AM)zoocrew Wrote:  

(07-27-2019 12:07 AM)Shox Wrote:  Had you kept the Florida Tech name and stayed on the same trajectory with the same football program you have today, there is a 100% chance that you would either be in the ACC or Big XII right now. Marketing and perception matter. You may get to the P5 someday but you will have to go the long ways around.

Crazy but probably true.

Waiting for the SEC to pick up “Louisiana” and Florida A&M any minute now.


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F Tech. Solid name.

Central isn’t a direction but carry on.

(07-26-2019 09:50 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 09:03 PM)vick mike Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 08:45 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  The goal was to diversify into a comprehensive university and not be limited as a tech school. If we had stayed Florida Tech, we'd probably be 1/3 of the size we are today and look a lot more like Louisiana Tech than the Carnegie Research I we are.

Georgia Tech
Virginia Tech
Just sayin

The Legislature was never investing in FTU/UCF, or really any of our universities except UF/FSU, that would enable us to reach the quality of those universities. Florida's universities have built into very strong institutions through enrollment size (tuition dollars and economies of scale). Had FTU remained a smaller campus, it would be much more like Louisiana Tech or Tennessee Tech. Only UCF's size, achieved through offering comprehensive programs, has enabled us to build to what we are today.

While we could have kept the Tech name and still offered comprehensive programs, the leadership at the time felt the Tech name was limiting. Too bad, because I definitely agree that we'd be better off with the Tech name right now.

USF's push for more recognition under genshaft helped too. USF academically is every bit the equal of FSU despite a weaker student profile.

It most certainly has helped UCF and will lift the rest of the state schools going forward.

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(07-27-2019 02:02 PM)bullsbucsfan426 Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 09:50 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 09:03 PM)vick mike Wrote:  

(07-26-2019 08:45 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  The goal was to diversify into a comprehensive university and not be limited as a tech school. If we had stayed Florida Tech, we'd probably be 1/3 of the size we are today and look a lot more like Louisiana Tech than the Carnegie Research I we are.

Georgia Tech
Virginia Tech
Just sayin

The Legislature was never investing in FTU/UCF, or really any of our universities except UF/FSU, that would enable us to reach the quality of those universities. Florida's universities have built into very strong institutions through enrollment size (tuition dollars and economies of scale). Had FTU remained a smaller campus, it would be much more like Louisiana Tech or Tennessee Tech. Only UCF's size, achieved through offering comprehensive programs, has enabled us to build to what we are today.

While we could have kept the Tech name and still offered comprehensive programs, the leadership at the time felt the Tech name was limiting. Too bad, because I definitely agree that we'd be better off with the Tech name right now.

USF's push for more recognition under genshaft helped too. USF academically is every bit the equal of FSU despite a weaker student profile.

It most certainly has helped UCF and will lift the rest of the state schools going forward.

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I don't really feel like starting a pissing match, but no, USF is not equal to FSU. FSU does as much research as USF while getting basically nothing from its med school. USF lives and dies by the medical school and having had one for so much longer than FSU and UCF. FSU is much broader and deeper across almost every department except medicine and engineering. If FSU had a full research medical school and its own engineering school, it would be an AAU school.

They built Disney in Orlando and they felt UCF invited more Business/Hospitality students than Florida Tech.

Diversification

(07-27-2019 12:45 PM)Knightshift Wrote:  

(07-27-2019 11:18 AM)SMUleopold Wrote:  Wasn’t USF the University of Tampa at one point?

Was there a mascot change there, too?

No. USF has always been U of South Florida, and U of Tampa has (almost) always been U of Tampa.

yes we used to be the Golden Brahamans before changing to Bulls

Florida Tech is now taken. My grad school alma mater thanks the Orlando based University for its bequest.

I don’t see any problem with the name University of Central Florida. After all, this type of naming convention hasn’t hurt the University of Southern Florida*.

*name verified by Susan Herbst

(07-26-2019 09:55 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Norvell made them

Well done. BC take notes.

(07-27-2019 07:16 PM)UCF_SystemsEng Wrote:  Florida Tech is now taken. My grad school alma mater thanks the Orlando based University for its bequest.

FTU is still available.

(07-27-2019 01:06 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(07-27-2019 08:36 AM)zoocrew Wrote:  

(07-27-2019 12:07 AM)Shox Wrote:  Had you kept the Florida Tech name and stayed on the same trajectory with the same football program you have today, there is a 100% chance that you would either be in the ACC or Big XII right now. Marketing and perception matter. You may get to the P5 someday but you will have to go the long ways around.

Crazy but probably true.

Waiting for the SEC to pick up “Louisiana” and Florida A&M any minute now.


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I think you missed their point.

I feel bad for Middle Tennessee State it’s probably the worst FBS name.