(09-16-2019 06:42 AM)UTerry Wrote:  I thought it would have been longer.....
but maybe they'll do that when they replace the upper deck...…

YES SIR !!

Unless the east side of the stadium is replaced, it needs a broadcast facility that can shoot the west side.Give the Glass Bowl and team its best look for
broadcast. The NE Corner of the GB can be particularly annoying. Really understates attendance.

UT is replacing east side upper deck? When will this happen?

(09-16-2019 09:58 AM)Michigan Rocket Wrote:  UT is replacing east side upper deck? When will this happen?

Hopefully soon !!
Maybe with an 8-10,000 seat deck that will stretch from corner to corner with suites at the concourse level...That will get us to 30,000, which is about all we really need... Wrapping it all the way around would get us to 40,000 and would justify a conference upgrade which will probably never happen ...

Is it a done deal or just wishful thinking?

(09-16-2019 09:58 AM)Michigan Rocket Wrote:  UT is replacing east side upper deck? When will this happen?

Unless the east side of the stadium is replaced, it needs a broadcast facility that can shoot the west side.Give the Glass Bowl and team its best look for
broadcast. The NE Corner of the GB can be particularly annoying. Really understates attendance.

I don't believe the upper deck will ever be replaced or expanded. We can't fill the seats we have and until we do on a regular basis, it won't happen. Ohio is graduating fewer high school seniors every year which also means fewer students.

As far as shooting the west side for TV, you can get relatively inexpensive HD cameras that would be mounted on a pole at the top of the east stands. Using cable or wifi, the picture would be sent to the press tower.

(09-16-2019 09:58 AM)Michigan Rocket Wrote:  UT is replacing east side upper deck? When will this happen?

Not counting on it that is why I advocate shooting cams from East to West. Why feature the visiting team's sideline and visitor seating for telecast and streaming audiences?

(09-16-2019 10:32 AM)Michigan Rocket Wrote:  Is it a done deal or just wishful thinking?

Wishful thinking. After spending how many millions redoing the concourse area (Which is still nothing special after spending all that money) and putting in the LED ribbon boards, I doubt there is anything planned.

But I wish they would redo the upper east side stands. Move it forward so the first few rows of the upper deck are over top the last few rows of the lower level. That would make the upper deck feel like your sitting on top of the field. And add some more suites and/or club seats in the upper deck. Maybe the 5/3 Field - make the first 5-10 rows club seats, then some suites, then regular seats.

(09-16-2019 10:36 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  

(09-16-2019 09:58 AM)Michigan Rocket Wrote:  UT is replacing east side upper deck? When will this happen?

Unless the east side of the stadium is replaced, it needs a broadcast facility that can shoot the west side.Give the Glass Bowl and team its best look for
broadcast. The NE Corner of the GB can be particularly annoying. Really understates attendance.

I don't believe the upper deck will ever be replaced or expanded. We can't fill the seats we have and until we do on a regular basis, it won't happen. Ohio is graduating fewer high school seniors every year which also means fewer students.

As far as shooting the west side for TV, you can get relatively inexpensive HD cameras that would be mounted on a pole at the top of the east stands. Using cable or wifi, the picture would be sent to the press tower.

Ever...really? We're a Division I FBS University. If we're not investing in facilities every so often, we don't stand a chance. The east side upper deck needs to be renovated. Love the idea of putting a new upper deck over top of the last few rows of lower deck. Plus add a media facility where ESPN cameras can showcase the press box side.

(09-16-2019 10:36 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  I don't believe the upper deck will ever be replaced or expanded. We can't fill the seats we have and until we do on a regular basis, it won't happen. Ohio is graduating fewer high school seniors every year which also means fewer students.

Agree. After just refurbishing the east side it will be a long time before they ever replace the bleachers. It will be at least another 50 years before it turns into the Doyt with chunks of concrete falling off. By then ESPN will have all of our games at 5:30a and we won't need east side bleachers.

Quote:As far as shooting the west side for TV, you can get relatively inexpensive HD cameras that would be mounted on a pole at the top of the east stands. Using cable or wifi, the picture would be sent to the press tower.

And then they could hang big flat screen monitor panels on the west wall and turn the broadcaster's seats 180 to face them.

(07-25-2019 03:26 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  It's installed. Guess they forgot to plug it in.

Like I said, replace this old 6000 seat deck with a new one (8-10,000) seat like what Akron’s Infocision has on their visitors side. It extends over the lower bowl and has all the light standards behind the deck. The GB in some ways takes a backseat to what Akron has, and with their poor support they sure don’t deserve that state of the art stadium. The Glass Bowl IMO, is still
best overall with history/design/atmosphere ...

(09-16-2019 10:45 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  

(09-16-2019 10:36 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  

(09-16-2019 09:58 AM)Michigan Rocket Wrote:  UT is replacing east side upper deck? When will this happen?

Unless the east side of the stadium is replaced, it needs a broadcast facility that can shoot the west side.Give the Glass Bowl and team its best look for
broadcast. The NE Corner of the GB can be particularly annoying. Really understates attendance.

I don't believe the upper deck will ever be replaced or expanded. We can't fill the seats we have and until we do on a regular basis, it won't happen. Ohio is graduating fewer high school seniors every year which also means fewer students.

As far as shooting the west side for TV, you can get relatively inexpensive HD cameras that would be mounted on a pole at the top of the east stands. Using cable or wifi, the picture would be sent to the press tower.

Ever...really? We're a Division I FBS University. If we're not investing in facilities every so often, we don't stand a chance. The east side upper deck needs to be renovated. Love the idea of putting a new upper deck over top of the last few rows of lower deck. Plus add a media facility where ESPN cameras can showcase the press box side.

Until GB is sold out on a regular basis, I doubt we would ever see replacement and expansion of the east side. Why increase to 30,000-40,000 when we can't average more than 25,000 a game in a season? Perfect conditions last Saturday for a season opening home game sells 25,000-a good size crowd but that's the best we can do? HC game last year against BGSU didn't even draw 25,000??? Clearly that's the peak we can expect from the Toledo area in the GB, and that is among top in the MAC. But until we sell out regularly (and recent history suggests that's not going to happen any time soon), expanding GB or moving to a better conference simply is not happening. We are what we are in terms of local support for Rockets football. I would rather replace every one of those stupid metal benches with actual stadium seating before ever expanding the capacity in the GB.

(09-17-2019 08:42 AM)PaulJ Wrote:  

(09-16-2019 10:45 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  

(09-16-2019 10:36 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  

(09-16-2019 09:58 AM)Michigan Rocket Wrote:  UT is replacing east side upper deck? When will this happen?

Unless the east side of the stadium is replaced, it needs a broadcast facility that can shoot the west side.Give the Glass Bowl and team its best look for
broadcast. The NE Corner of the GB can be particularly annoying. Really understates attendance.

I don't believe the upper deck will ever be replaced or expanded. We can't fill the seats we have and until we do on a regular basis, it won't happen. Ohio is graduating fewer high school seniors every year which also means fewer students.

As far as shooting the west side for TV, you can get relatively inexpensive HD cameras that would be mounted on a pole at the top of the east stands. Using cable or wifi, the picture would be sent to the press tower.

Ever...really? We're a Division I FBS University. If we're not investing in facilities every so often, we don't stand a chance. The east side upper deck needs to be renovated. Love the idea of putting a new upper deck over top of the last few rows of lower deck. Plus add a media facility where ESPN cameras can showcase the press box side.

Until GB is sold out on a regular basis, I doubt we would ever see replacement and expansion of the east side. Why increase to 30,000-40,000 when we can't average more than 25,000 a game in a season? Perfect conditions last Saturday for a season opening home game sells 25,000-a good size crowd but that's the best we can do? HC game last year against BGSU didn't even draw 25,000??? Clearly that's the peak we can expect from the Toledo area in the GB, and that is among top in the MAC. But until we sell out regularly (and recent history suggests that's not going to happen any time soon), expanding GB or moving to a better conference simply is not happening. We are what we are in terms of local support for Rockets football. I would rather replace every one of those stupid metal benches with actual stadium seating before ever expanding the capacity in the GB.

^^^
Small time thinking rears it’s ugly head again...
Chair backs would be nice but would drop capacity down to 22-24,000...
FCS level... Is that what the University of Toledo aspires to become ??

(09-17-2019 09:22 AM)FMRocket Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 08:42 AM)PaulJ Wrote:  

(09-16-2019 10:45 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  

(09-16-2019 10:36 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  

(09-16-2019 09:58 AM)Michigan Rocket Wrote:  UT is replacing east side upper deck? When will this happen?

Unless the east side of the stadium is replaced, it needs a broadcast facility that can shoot the west side.Give the Glass Bowl and team its best look for
broadcast. The NE Corner of the GB can be particularly annoying. Really understates attendance.

I don't believe the upper deck will ever be replaced or expanded. We can't fill the seats we have and until we do on a regular basis, it won't happen. Ohio is graduating fewer high school seniors every year which also means fewer students.

As far as shooting the west side for TV, you can get relatively inexpensive HD cameras that would be mounted on a pole at the top of the east stands. Using cable or wifi, the picture would be sent to the press tower.

Ever...really? We're a Division I FBS University. If we're not investing in facilities every so often, we don't stand a chance. The east side upper deck needs to be renovated. Love the idea of putting a new upper deck over top of the last few rows of lower deck. Plus add a media facility where ESPN cameras can showcase the press box side.

Until GB is sold out on a regular basis, I doubt we would ever see replacement and expansion of the east side. Why increase to 30,000-40,000 when we can't average more than 25,000 a game in a season? Perfect conditions last Saturday for a season opening home game sells 25,000-a good size crowd but that's the best we can do? HC game last year against BGSU didn't even draw 25,000??? Clearly that's the peak we can expect from the Toledo area in the GB, and that is among top in the MAC. But until we sell out regularly (and recent history suggests that's not going to happen any time soon), expanding GB or moving to a better conference simply is not happening. We are what we are in terms of local support for Rockets football. I would rather replace every one of those stupid metal benches with actual stadium seating before ever expanding the capacity in the GB.

^^^
Small time thinking rears it’s ugly head again...
Chair backs would be nice but would drop capacity down to 22-24,000...
FCS level... Is that what the University of Toledo aspires to become ??

Its not small time thinking, its reality...show me a few of seasons of 25,000 per game average and sell outs and then lets talk about investing $20 million +++ to expand GB. In meantime let's invest in improving the game experience for those fans who actually attend.

(09-16-2019 08:48 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Unless the east side of the stadium is replaced, it needs a broadcast facility that can shoot the west side.Give the Glass Bowl and team its best look for
broadcast. The NE Corner of the GB can be particularly annoying. Really understates attendance.

All kidding aside, I think this is a tremendous idea. UT is sacrificing fan experience for national exposure, so why are we exposing huge areas of empty seats to those viewers who are supposed to be so valuable?

Yes, there would be a cost to construct a booth over there, but it wouldn't need to be a huge, plush press box like on the east side. Plus the camera gear could be pushed over to that side. I think it would be an investment to show our best side on national TV.

(09-17-2019 11:16 AM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  

(09-16-2019 08:48 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Unless the east side of the stadium is replaced, it needs a broadcast facility that can shoot the west side.Give the Glass Bowl and team its best look for
broadcast. The NE Corner of the GB can be particularly annoying. Really understates attendance.

All kidding aside, I think this is a tremendous idea. UT is sacrificing fan experience for national exposure, so why are we exposing huge areas of empty seats to those viewers who are supposed to be so valuable?

Yes, there would be a cost to construct a booth over there, but it wouldn't need to be a huge, plush press box like on the east side. Plus the camera gear could be pushed over to that side. I think it would be an investment to show our best side on national TV.

Huge areas? Only 900 seats were empty Saturday!!

... Well for the 2nd quarter.

Our stadium looks good on TV. They do enough endzone establishing shots to showcase the press tower and home crowd. The light polls would really be annoying from an East side upper deck shot.

(09-16-2019 09:58 AM)Michigan Rocket Wrote:  UT is replacing east side upper deck? When will this happen?

in 2075

(09-17-2019 01:09 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 11:16 AM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  

(09-16-2019 08:48 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Unless the east side of the stadium is replaced, it needs a broadcast facility that can shoot the west side.Give the Glass Bowl and team its best look for
broadcast. The NE Corner of the GB can be particularly annoying. Really understates attendance.

All kidding aside, I think this is a tremendous idea. UT is sacrificing fan experience for national exposure, so why are we exposing huge areas of empty seats to those viewers who are supposed to be so valuable?

Yes, there would be a cost to construct a booth over there, but it wouldn't need to be a huge, plush press box like on the east side. Plus the camera gear could be pushed over to that side. I think it would be an investment to show our best side on national TV.

Huge areas? Only 900 seats were empty Saturday!!

... Well for the 2nd quarter.

Our stadium looks good on TV. They do enough endzone establishing shots to showcase the press tower and home crowd. The light polls would really be annoying from an East side upper deck shot.

only 900 empty seats?? Attendance was 25,361 with "official" GB capacity of 26,038? And yet UMiami game last year had official attendance of 28,117??? So what is a good size or near full GB actual number?? Frankly more game with 28,000+ would be great, much better in terms of talking about future plans with GB or league than your first home game of season at 25,000.

And does anyone watching CFB on TV, UT fans or not, really going to turn off game if a view of the stadium shows a thin crowd?? I get from a national promotional perspective its not a great view, but does that impact TV ratings??? I do agree the stadium looks good on TV, better than many others, and always room for improvement for the views that viewers see but I don't think its that bad of a look.

(09-17-2019 02:37 PM)PaulJ Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 01:09 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 11:16 AM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  

(09-16-2019 08:48 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Unless the east side of the stadium is replaced, it needs a broadcast facility that can shoot the west side.Give the Glass Bowl and team its best look for
broadcast. The NE Corner of the GB can be particularly annoying. Really understates attendance.

All kidding aside, I think this is a tremendous idea. UT is sacrificing fan experience for national exposure, so why are we exposing huge areas of empty seats to those viewers who are supposed to be so valuable?

Yes, there would be a cost to construct a booth over there, but it wouldn't need to be a huge, plush press box like on the east side. Plus the camera gear could be pushed over to that side. I think it would be an investment to show our best side on national TV.

Huge areas? Only 900 seats were empty Saturday!!

... Well for the 2nd quarter.

Our stadium looks good on TV. They do enough endzone establishing shots to showcase the press tower and home crowd. The light polls would really be annoying from an East side upper deck shot.

only 900 empty seats?? Attendance was 25,361 with "official" GB capacity of 26,038? And yet UMiami game last year had official attendance of 28,117??? So what is a good size or near full GB actual number?? Frankly more game with 28,000+ would be great, much better in terms of talking about future plans with GB or league than your first home game of season at 25,000.

And does anyone watching CFB on TV, UT fans or not, really going to turn off game if a view of the stadium shows a thin crowd?? I get from a national promotional perspective its not a great view, but does that impact TV ratings??? I do agree the stadium looks good on TV, better than many others, and always room for improvement for the views that viewers see but I don't think its that bad of a look.

Very good point. I'm not sure why capacity is listed at 26thousand whatever. That actual capacity fluctuates based on student overflow.

Nationally midweek, is really only when attendance gets put on the spot light. Occasionally a big program like UCLA with dwindling early season attendance can be a headline. Georgia State at Turner field is a bad look for ESPN2. As Kent State vs. anyone is in November ha.

We are not the program to be worried as we will probably have 20,000 for NIU in November while they had 12,000 for their home opener vs. in State school ISU.

A mini press box on the other side isnt the worst idea for a cool vantage point.

if the "temporary" upper deck was replaced and moved closer to the field, wouldn't that increase the fan experience????

If an indoor/outdoor suites (like at 5/3 Field) were added along the top of the new upper deck, wouldn't that increase the fan experience????

If the up to date lights were moved behind the east upper deck, wouldn't that increase the fan experience????

If a new longer ribbon board were added to the new and improved bigger upper deck, wouldn't that increase the fan experience?????

If the fan experience was increased, wouldn't that bring in spectators????