(12-17-2017 12:29 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote: And then there was the occasion a year or two back where there was a ruptured water main that turned Pauley into a huge, indoor swimming pool and necessitated the removal and replacement of the floor just before Basketball season due to warping...
(EDIT... It was three years ago, just after the aforementioned renovation was completed.)
(12-17-2017 12:56 PM)UCinNKY Wrote: Still not sure why we are starting Justin Jenifer; the kids tries his heart out, and doesn't turn the ball over but he's about as offensively skilled as I am. I understand he puts us in good spots to score the ball, but I am worried that 4 points a game at that spot won't be good enough, especially against high powered squads. All in all, this was a great win and I was extremely proud with how we played.
JJ one of best in nation in putting players in spots to just catch shoot. He's pretty useless though if we just go dump it inside all game, I think Mick needs let both his PG just play stop worrying so much about this player or that player getting his stats.
(12-17-2017 12:56 PM)UCinNKY Wrote: Still not sure why we are starting Justin Jenifer; the kids tries his heart out, and doesn't turn the ball over but he's about as offensively skilled as I am. I understand he puts us in good spots to score the ball, but I am worried that 4 points a game at that spot won't be good enough, especially against high powered squads. All in all, this was a great win and I was extremely proud with how we played.
You answered your own question.
Until the other guy learns to protect the ball, move the ball, and improves on D with a man in front of him, this is the rotation.
Pretty much. I'm glad we have both of them, it really cushioned the loss of Caupain.
You might think we're suspect at the point, but it would be even more so with just Justin Jenifer and nobody else.
Cane Broome is pretty much a smaller SG trying to transition to a point role. He's not so different from Farad Cobb.
Though I think Broome is more a lot more polished on the offensive end.
I'm just biased toward Broome because at least he'll drive to the rim. JJ with stand at the top of the key, dribble a few times, and then pass. Or as seen yesterday, brick a 3 and airball a 6 footer. JJ needs to be play like Devan Downey did, play bigger than your size.
(12-17-2017 12:29 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote: And then there was the occasion a year or two back where there was a ruptured water main that turned Pauley into a huge, indoor swimming pool and necessitated the removal and replacement of the floor just before Basketball season due to warping...
(EDIT... It was three years ago, just after the aforementioned renovation was completed.)
(12-16-2017 04:55 PM)Bearcat01 Wrote: I'll fire my coach if he doubled clark or washington in post. teams blessing us by doing this
Gary I agree with because he's such a good passer that you're better off taking your chances. Kyle's a good passer but is not as quick to give it up. I'd fire doubles at him regularly. Plus were a good but not great shooting team
You double the low post because a contested 2 from the low block is probably slightly better then a wide open trey on avg. College BBall shooting is not the NBA. if my choice is letting Gary go 1 v. 1 on the low block or doubling to let JJ, Cane or Kyle taking a wide open trey, i'll take option B all day every day. i would generally do that for Kyle as well except he's essentially a one handed player. i would fire my coach if he couldn't figure out a way to get Kyle, who is generally a black hole on the low block anyways, to go right for every shot.
If im coaching against us im letting gary use 6-7sec every time trying back me down. kyle money 1v1 in post. gary be tired as hell after the struggle to score, reason why dude misses TONS of lay ups. We should NEVER pass ball to Clark in post against quality teams. whoever been scouting us so far is horrible.
Uh, he's the best passer in the post, he will find the open shot, he scores, leading rebounder esp offensive, FT % way up, opponents can't handle him...
WHAT game are u watching? He will make some AA teams,,(maybe just because he doesn't get the exposure),Lay off my man Clark with your high school criticism...
(12-16-2017 04:55 PM)Bearcat01 Wrote: I'll fire my coach if he doubled clark or washington in post. teams blessing us by doing this
Gary I agree with because he's such a good passer that you're better off taking your chances. Kyle's a good passer but is not as quick to give it up. I'd fire doubles at him regularly. Plus were a good but not great shooting team
You double the low post because a contested 2 from the low block is probably slightly better then a wide open trey on avg. College BBall shooting is not the NBA. if my choice is letting Gary go 1 v. 1 on the low block or doubling to let JJ, Cane or Kyle taking a wide open trey, i'll take option B all day every day. i would generally do that for Kyle as well except he's essentially a one handed player. i would fire my coach if he couldn't figure out a way to get Kyle, who is generally a black hole on the low block anyways, to go right for every shot.
If im coaching against us im letting gary use 6-7sec every time trying back me down. kyle money 1v1 in post. gary be tired as hell after the struggle to score, reason why dude misses TONS of lay ups. We should NEVER pass ball to Clark in post against quality teams. whoever been scouting us so far is horrible.
Uh, he's the best passer in the post, he will find the open shot, he scores, leading rebounder esp offensive, FT % way up, opponents can't handle him...
WHAT game are u watching? He will make some AA teams,,(maybe just because he doesn't get the exposure),Lay off my man Clark with your high school criticism...
(12-17-2017 12:56 PM)UCinNKY Wrote: Still not sure why we are starting Justin Jenifer; the kids tries his heart out, and doesn't turn the ball over but he's about as offensively skilled as I am. I understand he puts us in good spots to score the ball, but I am worried that 4 points a game at that spot won't be good enough, especially against high powered squads. All in all, this was a great win and I was extremely proud with how we played.
JJ one of best in nation in putting players in spots to just catch shoot. He's pretty useless though if we just go dump it inside all game, I think Mick needs let both his PG just play stop worrying so much about this player or that player getting his stats.
What part of inside-out basketball don’t you understand? You dump it inside to collapse the defense then pass it back out for the open shot. Worked quite well yesterday- just need out guards who are so awesome according to you- to hit the open shots which they did at a decent clip yesterday. We aren’t the Golden State Warriors ffs.
(12-17-2017 08:55 AM)Bearcat01 Wrote: I'll still run teams to death using 4 guard lineups at least 10-15 min a game. I'll rather have moore and williams scoring over brooks or scott defense. Even when our back up bigs come in game our guards STILL pass it into post. Dumbest coaching ever!!!
Hey BULLDOG, how you doing this year.......
He would do a lot better if he could learn to use conjunctions.
(12-17-2017 12:56 PM)UCinNKY Wrote: Still not sure why we are starting Justin Jenifer; the kids tries his heart out, and doesn't turn the ball over but he's about as offensively skilled as I am. I understand he puts us in good spots to score the ball, but I am worried that 4 points a game at that spot won't be good enough, especially against high powered squads. All in all, this was a great win and I was extremely proud with how we played.
JJ one of best in nation in putting players in spots to just catch shoot. He's pretty useless though if we just go dump it inside all game, I think Mick needs let both his PG just play stop worrying so much about this player or that player getting his stats.
I like JJ, but he is not one of the best in the nation in any category.
(12-16-2017 04:55 PM)Bearcat01 Wrote: I'll fire my coach if he doubled clark or washington in post. teams blessing us by doing this
Gary I agree with because he's such a good passer that you're better off taking your chances. Kyle's a good passer but is not as quick to give it up. I'd fire doubles at him regularly. Plus were a good but not great shooting team
You double the low post because a contested 2 from the low block is probably slightly better then a wide open trey on avg. College BBall shooting is not the NBA. if my choice is letting Gary go 1 v. 1 on the low block or doubling to let JJ, Cane or Kyle taking a wide open trey, i'll take option B all day every day. i would generally do that for Kyle as well except he's essentially a one handed player. i would fire my coach if he couldn't figure out a way to get Kyle, who is generally a black hole on the low block anyways, to go right for every shot.
If im coaching against us im letting gary use 6-7sec every time trying back me down. kyle money 1v1 in post. gary be tired as hell after the struggle to score, reason why dude misses TONS of lay ups. We should NEVER pass ball to Clark in post against quality teams. whoever been scouting us so far is horrible.
Uh, he's the best passer in the post, he will find the open shot, he scores, leading rebounder esp offensive, FT % way up, opponents can't handle him...
WHAT game are u watching? He will make some AA teams,,(maybe just because he doesn't get the exposure),Lay off my man Clark with your high school criticism...
clark should avg over 5ast until teams stop doubling him if he was good passer. All them other things me and you both agree on. I just aint seen us get one good look off one of clark passes.
(12-17-2017 12:56 PM)UCinNKY Wrote: Still not sure why we are starting Justin Jenifer; the kids tries his heart out, and doesn't turn the ball over but he's about as offensively skilled as I am. I understand he puts us in good spots to score the ball, but I am worried that 4 points a game at that spot won't be good enough, especially against high powered squads. All in all, this was a great win and I was extremely proud with how we played.
JJ one of best in nation in putting players in spots to just catch shoot. He's pretty useless though if we just go dump it inside all game, I think Mick needs let both his PG just play stop worrying so much about this player or that player getting his stats.
I like JJ, but he is not one of the best in the nation in any category.
at putting the ball in guys shooting pockets and passing to spots nobody comes close. watch him next game when he passes, he doesnt pass ball to player he passes to spot where player can have best chance to score. something average eye wouldn't see
(12-16-2017 05:00 PM)RealDeal Wrote: Gary I agree with because he's such a good passer that you're better off taking your chances. Kyle's a good passer but is not as quick to give it up. I'd fire doubles at him regularly. Plus were a good but not great shooting team
You double the low post because a contested 2 from the low block is probably slightly better then a wide open trey on avg. College BBall shooting is not the NBA. if my choice is letting Gary go 1 v. 1 on the low block or doubling to let JJ, Cane or Kyle taking a wide open trey, i'll take option B all day every day. i would generally do that for Kyle as well except he's essentially a one handed player. i would fire my coach if he couldn't figure out a way to get Kyle, who is generally a black hole on the low block anyways, to go right for every shot.
If im coaching against us im letting gary use 6-7sec every time trying back me down. kyle money 1v1 in post. gary be tired as hell after the struggle to score, reason why dude misses TONS of lay ups. We should NEVER pass ball to Clark in post against quality teams. whoever been scouting us so far is horrible.
Uh, he's the best passer in the post, he will find the open shot, he scores, leading rebounder esp offensive, FT % way up, opponents can't handle him...
WHAT game are u watching? He will make some AA teams,,(maybe just because he doesn't get the exposure),Lay off my man Clark with your high school criticism...
clark should avg over 5ast until teams stop doubling him if he was good passer. All them other things me and you both agree on. I just aint seen us get one good look off one of clark passes.
Gary got doubled Saturday later in the second half when UCLA was making their run and he was able to fight through it and muscle a bounce pass to Jake at the top of the key for a wide open three. That may literally be the last time he was doubled and we got a good look off of it.
Also, a lot of the assists that happen when you pass out of a post double are hockey assists and don't show up in a basketball boxscore (aka points off the second pass out of a post double).
(This post was last modified: 12-18-2017 08:53 AM by DownOnRohs.)
(12-17-2017 12:56 PM)UCinNKY Wrote: Still not sure why we are starting Justin Jenifer; the kids tries his heart out, and doesn't turn the ball over but he's about as offensively skilled as I am. I understand he puts us in good spots to score the ball, but I am worried that 4 points a game at that spot won't be good enough, especially against high powered squads. All in all, this was a great win and I was extremely proud with how we played.
JJ one of best in nation in putting players in spots to just catch shoot. He's pretty useless though if we just go dump it inside all game, I think Mick needs let both his PG just play stop worrying so much about this player or that player getting his stats.
I like JJ, but he is not one of the best in the nation in any category.
at putting the ball in guys shooting pockets and passing to spots nobody comes close. watch him next game when he passes, he doesnt pass ball to player he passes to spot where player can have best chance to score. something average eye wouldn't see
Yea Taylor this convo is for the advanced thinkers...not you and your average eye!
(12-17-2017 12:56 PM)UCinNKY Wrote: Still not sure why we are starting Justin Jenifer; the kids tries his heart out, and doesn't turn the ball over but he's about as offensively skilled as I am. I understand he puts us in good spots to score the ball, but I am worried that 4 points a game at that spot won't be good enough, especially against high powered squads. All in all, this was a great win and I was extremely proud with how we played.
JJ one of best in nation in putting players in spots to just catch shoot. He's pretty useless though if we just go dump it inside all game, I think Mick needs let both his PG just play stop worrying so much about this player or that player getting his stats.
I like JJ, but he is not one of the best in the nation in any category.
at putting the ball in guys shooting pockets and passing to spots nobody comes close. watch him next game when he passes, he doesnt pass ball to player he passes to spot where player can have best chance to score. something average eye wouldn't see
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