(08-07-2016 08:36 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(08-07-2016 08:12 AM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  1st. We should not have lost to IU last season.... But we had just lost our star running back the week before in a horrible injury and was also without our #2 running back for that game and started a true freshman for that game. Also add that IU was a good team last season until they had some key injuries mid season that hurt them ...... Go back and look at they're scores for the first half of the year.
2nd. We had to play LSU at LSU in Death Valley at NIGHT in a MONSOON! That does not bold well for a passing team. Our game against LSU was a close game through the 3rd quarter until we had to get risky which didn't pay off. We lost both games, but both where very poor circumstances. GSU would have been blasted by WKU last year and that is a fact

Indiana's first 3 games
1-point win over FCS SIU that won 3 games last year...
14-point win over FIU...
7-point win over Wake Forest...
Those 3 teams combined had 5 FBS wins last year.

Honestly, late season I don't think you guys are any better than we were.

I can give you the benefit of the doubt against LSU, though somehow I think you'll take all of our losses at face value (e.g. Georgia State where our coach had one foot out the door and we practiced in our gym 2 days the entire week).

Yeah apparently nobody practiced for us the last 5 games.



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(08-07-2016 09:37 AM)panama Wrote:  Yeah apparently nobody practiced for us the last 5 games.



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I'm just reporting what I've heard first-hand from a player and more than one reliable source.

That was (I think) the largest margin of defeat ever at home. You didn't do it without help from Willie Quitz. Sorry if that hurts your ego.

(08-07-2016 09:35 AM)panama Wrote:  

(08-07-2016 08:30 AM)EagleNationRising Wrote:  

(08-07-2016 08:12 AM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(08-07-2016 07:24 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(08-07-2016 05:57 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  First of all, we'll have to wait and see what league finishes last among the G5 this year. Our champion last year DID finish ranked in the Top 25, which is something no SBC team has EVER managed to do. Until the Sun Belt Conference manages to have a team crack the Top 25 for the first time in history, I really can't take smack talk from you about conferences seriously. I think CUSA football will be just fine this year, with the top half of the conference totally outclassing the bottom half, much like every other conference in the nation.

You're going to brag about a team with a loss to freakin' Indiana and a non-competitive loss to LSU getting ranked?

If we're going to talk about ranked teams, the MAC has had more cumulative weeks in the top 25 than the current CUSA and they finished last year rated higher than CUSA as a conference. And the Sun Belt is 5-5 against them the last 2 years not counting our lame duck members.

1st. We should not have lost to IU last season.... But we had just lost our star running back the week before in a horrible injury and was also without our #2 running back for that game and started a true freshman for that game. Also add that IU was a good team last season until they had some key injuries mid season that hurt them ...... Go back and look at they're scores for the first half of the year.
2nd. We had to play LSU at LSU in Death Valley at NIGHT in a MONSOON! That does not bold well for a passing team. Our game against LSU was a close game through the 3rd quarter until we had to get risky which didn't pay off. We lost both games, but both where very poor circumstances. GSU would have been blasted by WKU last year and that is a fact

GSU...maybe...let's see the facts... GS...a bold statement for a passing team...BG probably thought the same thing...either way...I want to see your facts...

I am so lost...

VISITORS! GSU = Georgia State
GS = Georgia Southern

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To ease confusion, I relinquish the GSU to GaState on the Sunbelt board and take the GS. But for most every other CSN board, GSU is generally referencing GaSouthern.

(08-07-2016 09:18 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(08-07-2016 07:32 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  When a SBC is ranked he'll just move the finish line.

How can someone demand respect but not give for something your team has never done. LA Tech - never ranked, are you a hypocrite in everything you do?

LA Tech never ranked? Not so. We were last ranked in 2012, when we spent 6 weeks in the Top 25. We also cracked the Top 25 in 1999.

You clearly stated no SBC had finished a season ranked, I see the finish line placement has already changed for your argument, congrats...

(08-07-2016 09:56 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(08-07-2016 09:37 AM)panama Wrote:  Yeah apparently nobody practiced for us the last 5 games.



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I'm just reporting what I've heard first-hand from a player and more than one reliable source.

That was (I think) the largest margin of defeat ever at home. You didn't do it without help from Willie Quitz. Sorry if that hurts your ego.

Most improved rush defense in the nation. You were on bug on our windshield. Sorry if that hurts your ego.

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(08-07-2016 09:26 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  And just think, all this started because we told CUSA members we didn't want to join their crappy conference and their collective egos couldn't handle it.

*waits patiently for BRTransplants response*

I'm perfectly OK with you guys not wanting to join CUSA. I don't have any interest in joining the Sun Belt either, but that doesn't mean that I don't respect the Sun Belt Conference. You display complete disrespect for CUSA and there is no reason for you to do so. All G5 conferences face the same obstacles in the world of college sports. Some just think it matters who the tallest midget in the room is. I do not.

(08-07-2016 10:06 AM)panama Wrote:  Most improved rush defense in the nation. You were on bug on our windshield. Sorry if that hurts your ego.

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You went from dismal to mediocre. Nice job.

I'm willing to say you got better over the course of last year but you gave up 160 yards rushing to South Alabama and 200 to SJSU. Both of those are lesser rushing teams than we are, so I'm going to to with my hypothesis. Thanks for your input, though.

You were jolly stomped by mediocre then...will happen again

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(08-07-2016 10:05 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(08-07-2016 09:18 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(08-07-2016 07:32 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  When a SBC is ranked he'll just move the finish line.

How can someone demand respect but not give for something your team has never done. LA Tech - never ranked, are you a hypocrite in everything you do?

LA Tech never ranked? Not so. We were last ranked in 2012, when we spent 6 weeks in the Top 25. We also cracked the Top 25 in 1999.

You clearly stated no SBC had finished a season ranked, I see the finish line placement has already changed for your argument, congrats...

OK, I did say that. How's this? No SBC team has ever been ranked, period. Never. Not a single SBC team, for even a single week, has ever made it into the AP Top 25.

Half of the teams in CUSA have. LA Tech, Marshall, USM, UTEP, Rice, and WKU have spent weeks in the AP Top 25 Football Poll. UNT has also been ranked before, though not while they were in the SBC. The only reason I brought this fact up was to defend our conference from an unwarranted attack.

For the most part, I respect the programs in the SBC. I have no reason not to. And FWIW, I do expect one of App St, GA Southern, or Ark St to break this barrier very soon. When it happens, it will go a long way in improving the national perception of the SBC.

(08-07-2016 10:33 AM)panama Wrote:  You were jolly stomped by mediocre then...will happen again

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I'll defer to you and and call my bookie, then. Clearly your "scoreboard" analysis is better than mine of looking beyond one game and knowing what actually happened behind the scenes the week of that game.

(08-07-2016 10:40 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  For the most part, I respect the programs in the SBC. I have no reason not to. And FWIW, I do expect one of App St, GA Southern, or Ark St to break this barrier very soon. When it happens, it will go a long way in improving the national perception of the SBC.

CUSA people always like to tout having the perception advantage, yet also like to point out the thing about having had ranked teams and don't consider those two things might go together.

Going by what chiefsfan posted, the MAC is 23-22 against the Sun Belt over the last several years yet the MAC has a lot more cumulative weeks in the AP top 25 over that time.

(08-07-2016 10:54 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(08-07-2016 10:33 AM)panama Wrote:  You were jolly stomped by mediocre then...will happen again

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I'll defer to you and and call my bookie, then. Clearly your "scoreboard" analysis is better than mine of looking beyond one game and knowing what actually happened behind the scenes the week of that game.

(08-07-2016 10:40 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  For the most part, I respect the programs in the SBC. I have no reason not to. And FWIW, I do expect one of App St, GA Southern, or Ark St to break this barrier very soon. When it happens, it will go a long way in improving the national perception of the SBC.

CUSA people always like to tout having the perception advantage, yet also like to point out the thing about having had ranked teams and don't consider those two things might go together.

Going by what chiefsfan posted, the MAC is 23-22 against the Sun Belt over the last several years yet the MAC has a lot more cumulative weeks in the AP top 25 over that time.

Will leave you to ridiculous excuses. Cheers

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(08-07-2016 10:40 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(08-07-2016 10:05 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(08-07-2016 09:18 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(08-07-2016 07:32 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  When a SBC is ranked he'll just move the finish line.

How can someone demand respect but not give for something your team has never done. LA Tech - never ranked, are you a hypocrite in everything you do?

LA Tech never ranked? Not so. We were last ranked in 2012, when we spent 6 weeks in the Top 25. We also cracked the Top 25 in 1999.

You clearly stated no SBC had finished a season ranked, I see the finish line placement has already changed for your argument, congrats...

OK, I did say that. How's this? No SBC team has ever been ranked, period. Never. Not a single SBC team, for even a single week, has ever made it into the AP Top 25.

Half of the teams in CUSA have. LA Tech, Marshall, USM, UTEP, Rice, and WKU have spent weeks in the AP Top 25 Football Poll. UNT has also been ranked before, though not while they were in the SBC. The only reason I brought this fact up was to defend our conference from an unwarranted attack.

For the most part, I respect the programs in the SBC. I have no reason not to. And FWIW, I do expect one of App St, GA Southern, or Ark St to break this barrier very soon. When it happens, it will go a long way in improving the national perception of the SBC.

Okay, lets throw out UNT's ranking from the 1970's. That's silly to even include in an argument since College Football was an entirely different game then.

We also should probably throw out Rice's rankings for whenever they were in the SWC, because much like the SEC now, you didn't have to be a great team in the SWC to get ranked, just decent, simply because of the perception of the conference.

USM, Marshall, and WKU were all ranked during their time in CUSA, so they are okay. Tech was ranked during their time briefly in the WAC, but that team shot themselves in the foot and didn't play in a bowl game. I have no memory of UTEP's ranking, though I am sure they probably were at some point.

(08-07-2016 10:27 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(08-07-2016 09:26 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  And just think, all this started because we told CUSA members we didn't want to join their crappy conference and their collective egos couldn't handle it.

*waits patiently for BRTransplants response*

I'm perfectly OK with you guys not wanting to join CUSA. I don't have any interest in joining the Sun Belt either, but that doesn't mean that I don't respect the Sun Belt Conference. You display complete disrespect for CUSA and there is no reason for you to do so. All G5 conferences face the same obstacles in the world of college sports. Some just think it matters who the tallest midget in the room is. I do not.

I'll let you go ask Houston and Boise State what it's like being the tallest midget and then you can tell me if you think it matters or not.

Considering 5 of the 9 current Sunbelt schools have been only been fully FBS compliant (Bowl Eligible) 3 years or less and another coming on this year, it's impossible to compare the conferences. How about you CUSA guys let things settle out a few years before getting carried away with the egos.

(08-07-2016 03:12 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Considering 5 of the 9 current Sunbelt schools have been only been fully FBS compliant (Bowl Eligible) 3 years or less and another coming on this year, it's impossible to compare the conferences. How about you CUSA guys let things settle out a few years before getting carried away with the egos.

Dude,
Georgia State went to a bowl last year.
That is all you need to know about the Sun Belt.

Georgia State went to a bowl. Good lord, they lost to Charlotte.

(08-07-2016 07:32 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  When a SBC is ranked he'll just move the finish line.

How can someone demand respect but not give for something your team has never done. LA Tech - never ranked, are you a hypocrite in everything you do?

You must not have google, multiple times; last time was 4 years ago, Tech spent 5 weeks in the Top 25.

You cant take this stuff or yourself so seriously. Lighten up, we're talking smack about sports, I say bring it on!

When I see someone like this app poster say the Sunbelt is marginally better I really just have to laugh. Because the evidence is that the CUSA has dominated the Sunbelt conference in football and it is not even close.

9-1 since the current lineup
4th place beat undefeated Sunbelt Champs by 19 and broke NO bowl record with close to 700 yards of offense.

Tech alone had as many draft picks as the whole Sunbelt Conference.

Charlotte, who couldnt win a game in CUSA, beat a Sunbelt Bowl team on their home field.

The evidence is decisive and no the Sunbelt is not anywhere close to being marginally better than CUSA. Good luck this fall just not against CUSA or Tech!

(08-07-2016 03:21 PM)theboro Wrote:  

(08-07-2016 03:12 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Considering 5 of the 9 current Sunbelt schools have been only been fully FBS compliant (Bowl Eligible) 3 years or less and another coming on this year, it's impossible to compare the conferences. How about you CUSA guys let things settle out a few years before getting carried away with the egos.

Dude,
Georgia State went to a bowl last year.
That is all you need to know about the Sun Belt.

Georgia State went to a bowl. Good lord, they lost to Charlotte.

They also beat Georgia Southern. In 2014 we lost 4 of first 5 including Liberty. We've won 17 out of 19 since.

I've enjoyed reading/commenting on this thread. It's been quite amusing, but let's not kid ourselves. The entire reason this thread exists is because BOTH the Sunbelt and CUSA are at the bottom of the midget chain...neither conference is the tallest midget conference as a whole, and likely doesn't have the tallest of the midgets within it, so arguing about it really is irrelevant. Football season is upon us, so we get to do this all over again in about half a year!

I see this argument about CUSA's Latech beating ArkState and laugh because you can't use the transitive property when talking about a conference to conference comparison. That's the same as me saying something like..."LaTech lost to Marshall that lost to Ohio that got destroyed by Western Michigan AND Bowling Green, who BOTH got destroyed by GaSouthern"...All it means is during that game, LaTech was better than ArkState; Marshall was better than LaTech, GaSouthern was better than WMU/Bowling Green; Ohio > Marshall; etc. I wish I could say that you could judge things based on a full body of work between the SB and CUSA, but you can't really do that either. The SunBelt last year didn't play a full round robin nor did they have a conference championship game...which again...makes your argument inconclusive. So all that can really be said is that things change week in and week out. On a side note, it seems that App State can get games set up against CUSA, but GaSouthern can't...I'm gonna need you and your friends to get this set up.

(08-07-2016 05:26 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:   You must not have google, multiple times; last time was 4 years ago, Tech spent 5 weeks in the Top 25.

You cant take this stuff or yourself so seriously. Lighten up, we're talking smack about sports, I say bring it on!

When I see someone like this app poster say the Sunbelt is marginally better I really just have to laugh. Because the evidence is that the CUSA has dominated the Sunbelt conference in football and it is not even close.

9-1 since the current lineup
4th place beat undefeated Sunbelt Champs by 19 and broke NO bowl record with close to 700 yards of offense.

Tech alone had as many draft picks as the whole Sunbelt Conference.

Charlotte, who couldnt win a game in CUSA, beat a Sunbelt Bowl team on their home field.

The evidence is decisive and no the Sunbelt is not anywhere close to being marginally better than CUSA. Good luck this fall just not against CUSA or Tech!

Question: Is there a certain number of times your stupid arguments have to be shot down before it gets through to you, or do you just post here to try and ruffle feathers?

This thread will be the highlight of LA Techs season, so sad.