(01-15-2016 11:59 AM)Rolling Wave Wrote:  Hey Memphis, Cincinnati and Houston fans, please again tell us how many beds you have on campus and how big your **ck* are!

I haven't seen a Cincinnati fan in here popping off...but thanks!

Patience is the key

(01-15-2016 12:50 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 11:59 AM)Rolling Wave Wrote:  Hey Memphis, Cincinnati and Houston fans, please again tell us how many beds you have on campus and how big your **ck* are!

I haven't seen a Cincinnati fan in here popping off...but thanks!

This, and at least for myself I am just dispelling misinformation be it pure ignorance or arrogance.....

I know all of us are a longshot to be "allowed" in the club. Just wont let my school be represented by less than the facts.....

Supposedly Memphis and Cincy are working together to get in the Big 12 but who knows if the other isn't backstabbing the other to prop themselves up.

(01-15-2016 12:56 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  Supposedly Memphis and Cincy are working together to get in the Big 12 but who knows if the other isn't backstabbing the other to prop themselves up.

Remember when Memphis hired Mike Tranghese?

I think this move is as good as that one.

(01-15-2016 01:01 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 12:56 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  Supposedly Memphis and Cincy are working together to get in the Big 12 but who knows if the other isn't backstabbing the other to prop themselves up.

Remember when Memphis hired Mike Tranghese?

I think this move is as good as that one.

Different leadership in charge buddy. Parrish did say it on good authority that is what both schools are doing. It must be common knowledge if he said it publicly.

It will be interesting how this all plays out though

(01-15-2016 11:59 AM)Rolling Wave Wrote:  Hey Memphis, Cincinnati and Houston fans, please again tell us how many beds you have on campus and how big your **ck* are!

This conference has some pretty good teams in it, that bring a lot to the table.... both in Football and Basketball...but when you have a Team that ranks 248 in the RPI and has a 3-9 record in Football...well when the quality teams have to play that school in just doesn't get people excited....even when you beat that 248th ranked team it brings your teams RPI down and when you beat them in Football in does nothing to enhance your profile.....if we could only get rid of the bottom dwellers...this conference actual is pretty good...

Maybe they should try not being blown out in their first playoff game?

(01-15-2016 12:46 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 12:18 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  We averaged close or over 40k every year since 2007...not exactly all height of the program. This year was bad obviously. I do like Houston. I just had to add a comment to the bigger program that can't be backed up. Moving along...

I agree that UCF will be just fine attendance wise but your numbers have to be called into question if these photos (and I watched the whole game) is indicative of what the announced 28,350 looks like.

Don't get me wrong I know every school, UH included, has and does pad numbers but don't act like they (the numbers) are always beyond reasonable doubt.... And yes I know you were terrible this year but this was your homecoming.

Just being honest.

Tickets sold man...yeah and many quit showing up after the 1st 2 games. No real surprise. .not only lost 13 straight but wasn't competitive in most of them. Trust me I watch plenty of houston basketball and know about fudging.

Our list of 40k+ games since 2007 is pretty long. We had over 50k for the first c-Usa championship at the citrus bowl.

this kind of thread brings out the worst in people

(01-15-2016 12:26 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 12:18 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 10:33 AM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 10:09 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 09:31 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  Whether it happens or not, dissecting this statement: “We’ll look at the fan base, we’ll look at the size of their programs, we’ll look at the academics of the institutions. We’ll look at them comprehensively as to which is the best fit. And also we’ll consider geography to a certain degree.”

I think Houston and Cincy are the two that on all criteria. Houston's only hitch possibly being the fan base, but in the Big12 I think that is a non issue. UCONN is Houston's competition IMO, with geography being the biggest hurdle. Also, I'm going to assume that if BYU were in the mix, their coach would not have ditched them for UVA... Also do not think BSU is in the mix either as they'll look east and to the AAC...

USF misses on program size and fan base
UCF misses on program size and academics
ECU see UCF
Memphis misses on academics
Temple misses on fan base
Tulane missed on fan base and program size

What the hell does program size mean? Over the last 7 years or so we average more fans. Last year was probably the only year flipped in Houston's favor. Our budget is higher and academics I believe rate higher. In basketball both programs draw flies, but Houston draws ASUN level crowds.

Argument needs to be market size for Houston and coming off a big win. You guys had a great year but calm down. In average years you draw -30k. In most years ucf is pushing close to 40k fans.

Lol okay. You auto add 12k students per football game and say your pushing 40k....okay. And you were only "pushing 40k" during the height of the program and next year when Houston takes its leap, UCF will be easily behind.

We averaged close or over 40k every year since 2007...not exactly all height of the program. This year was bad obviously. I do like Houston. I just had to add a comment to the bigger program that can't be backed up. Moving along...

Right, I like UCF as well but since we are engaged in a pissing match....such a massive fan base sold 5k tickets for the fiesta bowl. Lol. UH had 20k in ATL. Our investment dwarfs anything UCF has put into athletics. That matters

We had well over 12k which nobody could drive and purchase $800 plane tickets. I purchased tickets on stubhub...8 of them. We had 15k in another country for crying out loud. Houston to atlanta is drivable. Big difference.

Go back to 2007 and do a comparison for football and basketball. Ucf has a larger fanbase. No real argument.

I don't want to get into a pissing argument, just want to add comments to the bigger program. I'm thankful for the Houston year by the way. Great for everyone.

(01-15-2016 12:27 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 12:00 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  Houston's (as well as SMU and Tulsa) hopes and dreams came crashing down when Boren said he wants a conference network. Houston does not provide TV value for a conference network structured like the BIG and SEC's. The ACC, PAC, or BIG seem more likely for Houston in the network age.

Not really, "If" they rolled the LHN into the B12 network maybe but if they don't it clearly doesn't. It's all speculation....

People forget to realize that Texas is the fastest growing population in the country and specifically the Houston metro area. Yes, the B12 has a presence here (with or without the LHN) but that is diminishing due to the SEC.

What does the conference more good? (And this is not a shot at any of the schools or states just pure numbers) To further secure (I'll concede not increase but secure) a Houston market projected to be 14+ million by 2050 or entire states with projected populations of 3.8 million, 7.4 million, and 11.6 million respectively. Florida schools coming in at 1.7 million and 1.8 million.

Its (in theory) again about securing one of (if not the most) fertile TV markets in the future.

What you stated is exactly why they will get left behind by the Big12, but will likely be extremely attractive for 3 other conferences.

(01-15-2016 09:16 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 12:25 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Meanwhile, Ohio State just signed an apparel contract worth as much as the Big 1's base media disburment per year...hooray for income inequality hitting every facet of US life!

In this analogy, the B1G and the SEC are the crooked execs who will never get called out for their salaries and bonuses, the Big 12 is the middle class, we are the group that holds a job, has some manageable debt and a job good enough to pay our bills...and Conference USA is the dude getting his trailer hauled away by Cash Advance.

#1 Ohio State is a valuable brand for apparel contracts. What the hell does that have to do with inequality. Do you want to share your apparel contracts with the MAC ohio schools? They have 95% of Ohio buying their logos.

#2. The SEC and Big 10 simply have more value so of course they get more money. TCU while good isn't a popular brand....same with the rest outside of Texas and Oklahoma.

#3. Most in the c-USA got a raise from sunbelt and recent fcs days. Many just started football and have zero fanbase. They are now getting playoff money and really just fcs teams.

Take life by the balls and don't expect the government to take care of you because it certainly doesn't ever make it down when the government starts the wealth distribution.

I think you miss the point of my post, but that's fine, I'm confusing sometimes. OSU's apparel contract is a "rich get richer" situation and show just how much the Big 12 has fallen. The Big 12, like the Middle Class is receding, that is all I meant. The C-USA comment was for humorous purposes, which I figured was quite evident, but I apologize that it may have been misunderstood...

Nothing wrong with little brother status. I have two of them.

#littlebrotherlivesmatter

(01-15-2016 11:59 AM)Rolling Wave Wrote:  Hey Memphis, Cincinnati and Houston fans, please again tell us how many beds you have on campus and how big your **ck* are!

I can't think of a time when a Cincinnati fan has mentioned the number of beds on campus, particularly since I don't think any of us really know, plus the surrounding neighborhood is loaded with student housing within walking distance.

I can tell you for certain that our **ck* are much bigger than yours.

(01-15-2016 11:56 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 09:33 AM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 09:31 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  Whether it happens or not, dissecting this statement: “We’ll look at the fan base, we’ll look at the size of their programs, we’ll look at the academics of the institutions. We’ll look at them comprehensively as to which is the best fit. And also we’ll consider geography to a certain degree.”

I think Houston and Cincy are the two that on all criteria. Houston's only hitch possibly being the fan base, but in the Big12 I think that is a non issue. UCONN is Houston's competition IMO, with geography being the biggest hurdle. Also, I'm going to assume that if BYU were in the mix, their coach would not have ditched them for UVA... Also do not think BSU is in the mix either as they'll look east and to the AAC...

USF misses on program size and fan base
UCF misses on program size and academics
ECU see UCF
Memphis misses on academics
Temple misses on fan base
Tulane missed on fan base and program size

Wait a second... You say UCF misses on academics but USF doesn't? They're every so slightly higher ranked academically, but certainly not enough to move the needle.

...and BOTH are higher ranked than Houston which you say is fine academically.

Ive said this in many posts and it isnt a slight on UCF. UCF is a fine school. Its Tier 1, it has a good reputation and a person will get a quality education there....but no, you arent near USF.

US News Rankings arent a good indicator at all. Its very slighted toward the schools in the major conferences and includes garbage that shouldnt be included. Its nice to be top 100 but they arent a true measure of academic ranking.

Universally amongst schools, Research is considered to be a leading indicator of strength. Another is endowment, patents, number of professors in the academy... stuff like that.
All of those are not subject to bias and opinion, which US News does.

Like I said, UCF is a good school but you dont touch the level of research we do. Were top 10 in the nation for patents. Our endowment is 4 times your size and we have more professors within the academy than you. All independent indicators, USF is well ahead of UCF.

This doesnt make UCF a bad school. USF was started as a research university. UCF wasnt. Thats the main reason of the difference. UCF has done a great job of catching up but saying that the US News ranking means were really close just simply isnt true.

With all that said, I dont think either of us goes to the Big 12 without the other. We just make sense as a package... and it would be very smart. I do hope that the Big 12 goes big... many of us would do well there.

UCF freshman on average have higher SAT and ACT scores, just sayin.

(01-15-2016 01:58 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 11:59 AM)Rolling Wave Wrote:  Hey Memphis, Cincinnati and Houston fans, please again tell us how many beds you have on campus and how big your **ck* are!

I can't think of a time when a Cincinnati fan has mentioned the number of beds on campus, particularly since I don't think any of us really know, plus the surrounding neighborhood is loaded with student housing within walking distance.

I can tell you for certain that our **ck* are much bigger than yours.

I was looking at my dick today and compared to Tulane dicks much bigger.

Feb. 4 won't come fast enough to see what is going to happen to the Big 12

(01-15-2016 02:07 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Feb. 4 won't come fast enough to see what is going to happen to the Big 12

I doubt there will be much to see.