The way I see it, as the AAC becomes stronger than it was last year, it presents quite a dilemma to the P5 and the CFP committee.

Say an AAC team were to make it into the CFP. Obviously, making the CFP isn't going to happen to a team having a single "fluke winning season", it would have to get there through sustained winning at high level which is linked to strong quality recruiting. Those two things would present a hard case for inclusion into the CFP, so say they get in.

So what happens if this non-P5 team wins the national championship? I talking about long term, not just a one time feel good cinderella story.

I think the P5 would move quickly to remove this possibility from losing the national championship from happening to them again. The P5 would mitigate that risk by either shutting the door completely to the non-P5 teams by just not ever ranking them higher than #5 - which risks putting the legitimacy of the national championship in doubt if it's blatantly obvious - or they would poach the team(s) to bring them into the fold, thus keeping the prestige of winning the national championship within the P5.

It makes me wonder which conference would get to poach the teams, if there's a pecking order, or if it becomes a bidding war, and what dominoes that would cause.

(01-15-2016 10:22 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 10:19 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 12:56 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  Supposedly Memphis and Cincy are working together to get in the Big 12 but who knows if the other isn't backstabbing the other to prop themselves up.

Interesting. Source?

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Two years ago. Cincy dropped em

Lol troll on

(01-18-2016 05:37 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  I don't see expansion happening real soon at all. Texas doesn't need anyone joining... when people talk about Big 12 expansion I always ask one question. "What's in it for Texas". If the answer is nothing... then the answer to who they add is "nobody".

This.

(01-18-2016 08:45 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(01-18-2016 05:37 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  I don't see expansion happening real soon at all. Texas doesn't need anyone joining... when people talk about Big 12 expansion I always ask one question. "What's in it for Texas". If the answer is nothing... then the answer to who they add is "nobody".

This.

How about this answer then... they throw OK/WV/others a bone so they fall right back into place and get bullied around for another decade. Any good dictator has to have a feel for when an uprising is coming and do what it takes to settle people down in the short term.

(01-16-2016 02:20 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 09:31 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  Whether it happens or not, dissecting this statement: “We’ll look at the fan base, we’ll look at the size of their programs, we’ll look at the academics of the institutions. We’ll look at them comprehensively as to which is the best fit. And also we’ll consider geography to a certain degree.”

I think Houston and Cincy are the two that on all criteria. Houston's only hitch possibly being the fan base, but in the Big12 I think that is a non issue. UCONN is Houston's competition IMO, with geography being the biggest hurdle. Also, I'm going to assume that if BYU were in the mix, their coach would not have ditched them for UVA... Also do not think BSU is in the mix either as they'll look east and to the AAC...

USF misses on program size and fan base
UCF misses on program size and academics
ECU see UCF
Memphis misses on academics
Temple misses on fan base
Tulane missed on fan base and program size

You are so off base. Ucf and usfs academics are ranked higher than three existing big 12 members. Ucfs program size, value, and budget are comparable and the brand value is actually higher than cincy.

and you didn't read through the thread.

(01-19-2016 12:14 PM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 02:20 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 09:31 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  Whether it happens or not, dissecting this statement: “We’ll look at the fan base, we’ll look at the size of their programs, we’ll look at the academics of the institutions. We’ll look at them comprehensively as to which is the best fit. And also we’ll consider geography to a certain degree.”

I think Houston and Cincy are the two that on all criteria. Houston's only hitch possibly being the fan base, but in the Big12 I think that is a non issue. UCONN is Houston's competition IMO, with geography being the biggest hurdle. Also, I'm going to assume that if BYU were in the mix, their coach would not have ditched them for UVA... Also do not think BSU is in the mix either as they'll look east and to the AAC...

USF misses on program size and fan base
UCF misses on program size and academics
ECU see UCF
Memphis misses on academics
Temple misses on fan base
Tulane missed on fan base and program size

You are so off base. Ucf and usfs academics are ranked higher than three existing big 12 members. Ucfs program size, value, and budget are comparable and the brand value is actually higher than cincy.

and you didn't read through the thread.

I did. What did I miss

(01-19-2016 10:21 AM)uccheese Wrote:  

(01-18-2016 08:45 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(01-18-2016 05:37 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  I don't see expansion happening real soon at all. Texas doesn't need anyone joining... when people talk about Big 12 expansion I always ask one question. "What's in it for Texas". If the answer is nothing... then the answer to who they add is "nobody".

This.

How about this answer then... they throw OK/WV/others a bone so they fall right back into place and get bullied around for another decade. Any good dictator has to have a feel for when an uprising is coming and do what it takes to settle people down in the short term.

Texas couldnt care less what WVU feels. Lets be totally honest, those mountaineers lucked into a winning lotto ticket and will keep their hillbilly mouths closed as long as Texas tells them to. WVU has NO power in the Big 12. The ACC doesnt want them, Big 10 wont touch them and the SEC doesnt need them. This is their only life raft and its run by Texas.

Oklahoma is a different beast. If OU really presses for expansion, then it can cause an issue.... but that issue already exists. OU doesnt like the LHN and the preferential treatment that Texas gets. Yes, they are saying they want expansion BUT they dont. They want to have a reason to make the move that they really want to make, which is petition the Big 10 for an invite (which wont happen) or possibly escape on their own to the SEC.
OU would love to screw Texas and if it means being in the SEC and playing A&M instead of Texas each year, then so be it.

Oklahoma is saber rattling. There is no upside for them in expansion. Baylor or TCU may get left out of the playoff because there isnt a 12 team championship game, but notice that crap didnt happen to OU... and it wont.

Texas cares about Texas

(01-19-2016 06:42 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 12:14 PM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 02:20 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 09:31 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  Whether it happens or not, dissecting this statement: “We’ll look at the fan base, we’ll look at the size of their programs, we’ll look at the academics of the institutions. We’ll look at them comprehensively as to which is the best fit. And also we’ll consider geography to a certain degree.”

I think Houston and Cincy are the two that on all criteria. Houston's only hitch possibly being the fan base, but in the Big12 I think that is a non issue. UCONN is Houston's competition IMO, with geography being the biggest hurdle. Also, I'm going to assume that if BYU were in the mix, their coach would not have ditched them for UVA... Also do not think BSU is in the mix either as they'll look east and to the AAC...

USF misses on program size and fan base
UCF misses on program size and academics
ECU see UCF
Memphis misses on academics
Temple misses on fan base
Tulane missed on fan base and program size

You are so off base. Ucf and usfs academics are ranked higher than three existing big 12 members. Ucfs program size, value, and budget are comparable and the brand value is actually higher than cincy.

and you didn't read through the thread.

I did. What did I miss

Post #54 bromigo!

(01-20-2016 02:25 PM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 06:42 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(01-19-2016 12:14 PM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 02:20 PM)Knightbengal Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 09:31 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  Whether it happens or not, dissecting this statement: “We’ll look at the fan base, we’ll look at the size of their programs, we’ll look at the academics of the institutions. We’ll look at them comprehensively as to which is the best fit. And also we’ll consider geography to a certain degree.”

I think Houston and Cincy are the two that on all criteria. Houston's only hitch possibly being the fan base, but in the Big12 I think that is a non issue. UCONN is Houston's competition IMO, with geography being the biggest hurdle. Also, I'm going to assume that if BYU were in the mix, their coach would not have ditched them for UVA... Also do not think BSU is in the mix either as they'll look east and to the AAC...

USF misses on program size and fan base
UCF misses on program size and academics
ECU see UCF
Memphis misses on academics
Temple misses on fan base
Tulane missed on fan base and program size

You are so off base. Ucf and usfs academics are ranked higher than three existing big 12 members. Ucfs program size, value, and budget are comparable and the brand value is actually higher than cincy.

and you didn't read through the thread.

I did. What did I miss

Post #54 bromigo!

Got it thanks