(05-06-2015 10:03 AM)Libertygrad01 Wrote:  Many of you get hung up on field performances and national championships. What had Ga State ever accomplished on the field or Charlotte or FIU? Nothing, but that didn't stop them from being able to move to FBS football. Here's the rub with us Liberty fans. We've done everything possible to move to FBS. The Carr report stated we were the most ready school to make the jump that they had ever evaluated. Our facilities would match those of many SB, MAC or CUSA schools. We're now the only FCS school that's going to provide cost of attendance to every athlete. I'm not sure it would take Liberty actually going the route of litigation, but probably Liberty's team of attorneys sitting down with the NCAA's team of attorneys and all parties agreeing that the current set up violates anti-trust laws. The problem comes in scheduling the needed home games. This could all be avoided with an invite. . If I were in charge I would tell the football playing schools of the SB that a generous donation of $2,000,000 will be given to every school that votes yes.

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First off, FIU and Charlotte provide the #16 and #24 (respectively) TV markets. Lynchburg is #67.

And you're crazy if you think your football facilities match ours. Your stadium seats 19,200 and I guess you've missed all of the press regarding our new IPF.

Regarding olympic sports: Our soccer and softball facilities are top shelf. I'll grant you that our baseball () stadium sucks, but we play conference games at Appalachian Power Park (minor league). The Henderson Center is dated as well, another that I will grant you.

^^^^MY MISTAKE BRO!!!! I read "any", not "many"...

(05-06-2015 10:03 AM)Libertygrad01 Wrote:  Many of you get hung up on field performances and national championships. What had Ga State ever accomplished on the field or Charlotte or FIU? Nothing, but that didn't stop them from being able to move to FBS football. Here's the rub with us Liberty fans. We've done everything possible to move to FBS. The Carr report stated we were the most ready school to make the jump that they had ever evaluated. Our facilities would match those of many SB, MAC or CUSA schools. We're now the only FCS school that's going to provide cost of attendance to every athlete. I'm not sure it would take Liberty actually going the route of litigation, but probably Liberty's team of attorneys sitting down with the NCAA's team of attorneys and all parties agreeing that the current set up violates anti-trust laws. The problem comes in scheduling the needed home games. This could all be avoided with an invite. . If I were in charge I would tell the football playing schools of the SB that a generous donation of $2,000,000 will be given to every school that votes yes.

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The mentioned "generous donation" would be a bad move. Economic stability of all schools should be a priority. The ability of any team to "buy in" to any conference is a recipe that will bite all in the backside. Invites should come from meeting equal standards without financial consideration other than stability.

(05-06-2015 11:01 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 10:03 AM)Libertygrad01 Wrote:  Many of you get hung up on field performances and national championships. What had Ga State ever accomplished on the field or Charlotte or FIU? Nothing, but that didn't stop them from being able to move to FBS football. Here's the rub with us Liberty fans. We've done everything possible to move to FBS. The Carr report stated we were the most ready school to make the jump that they had ever evaluated. Our facilities would match those of many SB, MAC or CUSA schools. We're now the only FCS school that's going to provide cost of attendance to every athlete. I'm not sure it would take Liberty actually going the route of litigation, but probably Liberty's team of attorneys sitting down with the NCAA's team of attorneys and all parties agreeing that the current set up violates anti-trust laws. The problem comes in scheduling the needed home games. This could all be avoided with an invite. . If I were in charge I would tell the football playing schools of the SB that a generous donation of $2,000,000 will be given to every school that votes yes.

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The mentioned "generous donation" would be a bad move. Economic stability of all schools should be a priority. The ability of any team to "buy in" to any conference is a recipe that will bite all in the backside. Invites should come from meeting equal standards without financial consideration other than stability.

Why is it so bad for a school to buy their way into a conference? It is basically what the P5 schools are doing with demographics, markets, and branding. At least a school will be committed if they are financially invested in the conference.

(05-06-2015 12:32 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 11:01 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 10:03 AM)Libertygrad01 Wrote:  Many of you get hung up on field performances and national championships. What had Ga State ever accomplished on the field or Charlotte or FIU? Nothing, but that didn't stop them from being able to move to FBS football. Here's the rub with us Liberty fans. We've done everything possible to move to FBS. The Carr report stated we were the most ready school to make the jump that they had ever evaluated. Our facilities would match those of many SB, MAC or CUSA schools. We're now the only FCS school that's going to provide cost of attendance to every athlete. I'm not sure it would take Liberty actually going the route of litigation, but probably Liberty's team of attorneys sitting down with the NCAA's team of attorneys and all parties agreeing that the current set up violates anti-trust laws. The problem comes in scheduling the needed home games. This could all be avoided with an invite. . If I were in charge I would tell the football playing schools of the SB that a generous donation of $2,000,000 will be given to every school that votes yes.

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The mentioned "generous donation" would be a bad move. Economic stability of all schools should be a priority. The ability of any team to "buy in" to any conference is a recipe that will bite all in the backside. Invites should come from meeting equal standards without financial consideration other than stability.

Why is it so bad for a school to buy their way into a conference? It is basically what the P5 schools are doing with demographics, markets, and branding. At least a school will be committed if they are financially invested in the conference.

You will most likely be hated by the other member schools' administrations is why. I'm sure the attitude would be, "Liberty just thinks that whenever they have a problem that all they have to do is throw money at the conference and they'll get their way."

It just sends a bad message and sets a bad precedent IMHO.

^^^ That's the reason I don't see litigation as a viable option for Liberty either.

(05-06-2015 01:13 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 12:32 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 11:01 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 10:03 AM)Libertygrad01 Wrote:  Many of you get hung up on field performances and national championships. What had Ga State ever accomplished on the field or Charlotte or FIU? Nothing, but that didn't stop them from being able to move to FBS football. Here's the rub with us Liberty fans. We've done everything possible to move to FBS. The Carr report stated we were the most ready school to make the jump that they had ever evaluated. Our facilities would match those of many SB, MAC or CUSA schools. We're now the only FCS school that's going to provide cost of attendance to every athlete. I'm not sure it would take Liberty actually going the route of litigation, but probably Liberty's team of attorneys sitting down with the NCAA's team of attorneys and all parties agreeing that the current set up violates anti-trust laws. The problem comes in scheduling the needed home games. This could all be avoided with an invite. . If I were in charge I would tell the football playing schools of the SB that a generous donation of $2,000,000 will be given to every school that votes yes.

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The mentioned "generous donation" would be a bad move. Economic stability of all schools should be a priority. The ability of any team to "buy in" to any conference is a recipe that will bite all in the backside. Invites should come from meeting equal standards without financial consideration other than stability.

Why is it so bad for a school to buy their way into a conference? It is basically what the P5 schools are doing with demographics, markets, and branding. At least a school will be committed if they are financially invested in the conference.

You will most likely be hated by the other member schools' administrations is why. I'm sure the attitude would be, "Liberty just thinks that whenever they have a problem that all they have to do is throw money at the conference and they'll get their way."

It just sends a bad message and sets a bad precedent IMHO.

First of all, I was only talking about buying into the conference as an entrance fee, not paying a fee every time Liberty (or whoever) wanted to change the rules to be more favorable to themselves.

Second of all, if a school wanted to do this, it seems you should be mad at the schools accepting the offers.

(05-06-2015 12:32 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 11:01 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 10:03 AM)Libertygrad01 Wrote:  Many of you get hung up on field performances and national championships. What had Ga State ever accomplished on the field or Charlotte or FIU? Nothing, but that didn't stop them from being able to move to FBS football. Here's the rub with us Liberty fans. We've done everything possible to move to FBS. The Carr report stated we were the most ready school to make the jump that they had ever evaluated. Our facilities would match those of many SB, MAC or CUSA schools. We're now the only FCS school that's going to provide cost of attendance to every athlete. I'm not sure it would take Liberty actually going the route of litigation, but probably Liberty's team of attorneys sitting down with the NCAA's team of attorneys and all parties agreeing that the current set up violates anti-trust laws. The problem comes in scheduling the needed home games. This could all be avoided with an invite. . If I were in charge I would tell the football playing schools of the SB that a generous donation of $2,000,000 will be given to every school that votes yes.

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The mentioned "generous donation" would be a bad move. Economic stability of all schools should be a priority. The ability of any team to "buy in" to any conference is a recipe that will bite all in the backside. Invites should come from meeting equal standards without financial consideration other than stability.

Why is it so bad for a school to buy their way into a conference? It is basically what the P5 schools are doing with demographics, markets, and branding. At least a school will be committed if they are financially invested in the conference.

Anytime there is an organization, structure or group where one party has a monetary advantage, it creates an uneven playing field. That would create the fear, that has been expressed many times on this board, that Liberty will use it's cash to hire away coaches and throw money at the program to excel. It's not so much the actuality of the funding but more the perception and fear and uneasiness that it would cause. It would create a constant, underlying threat to the member schools. LU would be looked at as a cash cow.

The one exception could be if LU offered a one time "investment" into the conference to benefit itself and all other members in creating and/or advancing a network for the conference sharing it's media and network expertise. That could be an acceptable offer. Buying in purely with cash is a bad idea.

The best is to have the program be accepted on it's own merit meeting the standards and receiving an invite. If a negotiation is achieved by a financial investment in the conference where all members benefit, and not just cash to the members, that could be a benefit in considering the school.

Cash is king in most professions. It won't be king if flaunted or used to buy it's way in.

(05-06-2015 01:13 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 12:32 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 11:01 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 10:03 AM)Libertygrad01 Wrote:  Many of you get hung up on field performances and national championships. What had Ga State ever accomplished on the field or Charlotte or FIU? Nothing, but that didn't stop them from being able to move to FBS football. Here's the rub with us Liberty fans. We've done everything possible to move to FBS. The Carr report stated we were the most ready school to make the jump that they had ever evaluated. Our facilities would match those of many SB, MAC or CUSA schools. We're now the only FCS school that's going to provide cost of attendance to every athlete. I'm not sure it would take Liberty actually going the route of litigation, but probably Liberty's team of attorneys sitting down with the NCAA's team of attorneys and all parties agreeing that the current set up violates anti-trust laws. The problem comes in scheduling the needed home games. This could all be avoided with an invite. . If I were in charge I would tell the football playing schools of the SB that a generous donation of $2,000,000 will be given to every school that votes yes.

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The mentioned "generous donation" would be a bad move. Economic stability of all schools should be a priority. The ability of any team to "buy in" to any conference is a recipe that will bite all in the backside. Invites should come from meeting equal standards without financial consideration other than stability.

Why is it so bad for a school to buy their way into a conference? It is basically what the P5 schools are doing with demographics, markets, and branding. At least a school will be committed if they are financially invested in the conference.

You will most likely be hated by the other member schools' administrations is why. I'm sure the attitude would be, "Liberty just thinks that whenever they have a problem that all they have to do is throw money at the conference and they'll get their way."

It just sends a bad message and sets a bad precedent IMHO.

Agree.

(05-06-2015 01:27 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  ^^^ That's the reason I don't see litigation as a viable option for Liberty either.

A challenge will only be considered if LU goes years without an invite. A true last resort.

(05-06-2015 02:51 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 12:32 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 11:01 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 10:03 AM)Libertygrad01 Wrote:  Many of you get hung up on field performances and national championships. What had Ga State ever accomplished on the field or Charlotte or FIU? Nothing, but that didn't stop them from being able to move to FBS football. Here's the rub with us Liberty fans. We've done everything possible to move to FBS. The Carr report stated we were the most ready school to make the jump that they had ever evaluated. Our facilities would match those of many SB, MAC or CUSA schools. We're now the only FCS school that's going to provide cost of attendance to every athlete. I'm not sure it would take Liberty actually going the route of litigation, but probably Liberty's team of attorneys sitting down with the NCAA's team of attorneys and all parties agreeing that the current set up violates anti-trust laws. The problem comes in scheduling the needed home games. This could all be avoided with an invite. . If I were in charge I would tell the football playing schools of the SB that a generous donation of $2,000,000 will be given to every school that votes yes.

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The mentioned "generous donation" would be a bad move. Economic stability of all schools should be a priority. The ability of any team to "buy in" to any conference is a recipe that will bite all in the backside. Invites should come from meeting equal standards without financial consideration other than stability.

Why is it so bad for a school to buy their way into a conference? It is basically what the P5 schools are doing with demographics, markets, and branding. At least a school will be committed if they are financially invested in the conference.

Anytime there is an organization, structure or group where one party has a monetary advantage, it creates an uneven playing field. That would create the fear, that has been expressed many times on this board, that Liberty will use it's cash to hire away coaches and throw money at the program to excel. It's not so much the actuality of the funding but more the perception and fear and uneasiness that it would cause. It would create a constant, underlying threat to the member schools. LU would be looked at as a cash cow.

The one exception could be if LU offered a one time "investment" into the conference to benefit itself and all other members in creating and/or advancing a network for the conference sharing it's media and network expertise. That could be an acceptable offer. Buying in purely with cash is a bad idea.

The best is to have the program be accepted on it's own merit meeting the standards and receiving an invite. If a negotiation is achieved by a financial investment in the conference where all members benefit, and not just cash to the members, that could be a benefit in considering the school.

Cash is king in most professions. It won't be king if flaunted or used to buy it's way in.

No guarantee Liberty would become an SBC member but I'm sure they could easily buy USA's vote were they to finance a state-of-the-art on campus stadium

(05-06-2015 02:51 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 12:32 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 11:01 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 10:03 AM)Libertygrad01 Wrote:  Many of you get hung up on field performances and national championships. What had Ga State ever accomplished on the field or Charlotte or FIU? Nothing, but that didn't stop them from being able to move to FBS football. Here's the rub with us Liberty fans. We've done everything possible to move to FBS. The Carr report stated we were the most ready school to make the jump that they had ever evaluated. Our facilities would match those of many SB, MAC or CUSA schools. We're now the only FCS school that's going to provide cost of attendance to every athlete. I'm not sure it would take Liberty actually going the route of litigation, but probably Liberty's team of attorneys sitting down with the NCAA's team of attorneys and all parties agreeing that the current set up violates anti-trust laws. The problem comes in scheduling the needed home games. This could all be avoided with an invite. . If I were in charge I would tell the football playing schools of the SB that a generous donation of $2,000,000 will be given to every school that votes yes.

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The mentioned "generous donation" would be a bad move. Economic stability of all schools should be a priority. The ability of any team to "buy in" to any conference is a recipe that will bite all in the backside. Invites should come from meeting equal standards without financial consideration other than stability.

Why is it so bad for a school to buy their way into a conference? It is basically what the P5 schools are doing with demographics, markets, and branding. At least a school will be committed if they are financially invested in the conference.

Anytime there is an organization, structure or group where one party has a monetary advantage, it creates an uneven playing field. That would create the fear, that has been expressed many times on this board, that Liberty will use it's cash to hire away coaches and throw money at the program to excel. It's not so much the actuality of the funding but more the perception and fear and uneasiness that it would cause. It would create a constant, underlying threat to the member schools. LU would be looked at as a cash cow.

The one exception could be if LU offered a one time "investment" into the conference to benefit itself and all other members in creating and/or advancing a network for the conference sharing it's media and network expertise. That could be an acceptable offer. Buying in purely with cash is a bad idea.

The best is to have the program be accepted on it's own merit meeting the standards and receiving an invite. If a negotiation is achieved by a financial investment in the conference where all members benefit, and not just cash to the members, that could be a benefit in considering the school.

Cash is king in most professions. It won't be king if flaunted or used to buy it's way in.

A "one time investment" is exactly the thing you are arguing against but whatever. Agree to disagree.

(05-06-2015 08:21 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 02:51 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 12:32 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 11:01 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 10:03 AM)Libertygrad01 Wrote:  Many of you get hung up on field performances and national championships. What had Ga State ever accomplished on the field or Charlotte or FIU? Nothing, but that didn't stop them from being able to move to FBS football. Here's the rub with us Liberty fans. We've done everything possible to move to FBS. The Carr report stated we were the most ready school to make the jump that they had ever evaluated. Our facilities would match those of many SB, MAC or CUSA schools. We're now the only FCS school that's going to provide cost of attendance to every athlete. I'm not sure it would take Liberty actually going the route of litigation, but probably Liberty's team of attorneys sitting down with the NCAA's team of attorneys and all parties agreeing that the current set up violates anti-trust laws. The problem comes in scheduling the needed home games. This could all be avoided with an invite. . If I were in charge I would tell the football playing schools of the SB that a generous donation of $2,000,000 will be given to every school that votes yes.

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The mentioned "generous donation" would be a bad move. Economic stability of all schools should be a priority. The ability of any team to "buy in" to any conference is a recipe that will bite all in the backside. Invites should come from meeting equal standards without financial consideration other than stability.

Why is it so bad for a school to buy their way into a conference? It is basically what the P5 schools are doing with demographics, markets, and branding. At least a school will be committed if they are financially invested in the conference.

Anytime there is an organization, structure or group where one party has a monetary advantage, it creates an uneven playing field. That would create the fear, that has been expressed many times on this board, that Liberty will use it's cash to hire away coaches and throw money at the program to excel. It's not so much the actuality of the funding but more the perception and fear and uneasiness that it would cause. It would create a constant, underlying threat to the member schools. LU would be looked at as a cash cow.

The one exception could be if LU offered a one time "investment" into the conference to benefit itself and all other members in creating and/or advancing a network for the conference sharing it's media and network expertise. That could be an acceptable offer. Buying in purely with cash is a bad idea.

The best is to have the program be accepted on it's own merit meeting the standards and receiving an invite. If a negotiation is achieved by a financial investment in the conference where all members benefit, and not just cash to the members, that could be a benefit in considering the school.

Cash is king in most professions. It won't be king if flaunted or used to buy it's way in.

A "one time investment" is exactly the thing you are arguing against but whatever. Agree to disagree.

It's not the same. Giving cash is different than making improvements that benefit everyone. As others have stated here, it's a risky move and one that I hope Liberty does not make.

(05-06-2015 08:21 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  A "one time investment" is exactly the thing you are arguing against but whatever. Agree to disagree.

It's semantics, and how it is "phrased" or "donated".

You didn't buy the vote, you made an investment in the conference you are joining. I just don't see Liberty doing that either, as it confirms what some folks have been saying... Liberty has to buy their way in, they won't be accepted on their own.

(05-06-2015 08:26 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 08:21 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 02:51 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 12:32 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 11:01 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  The mentioned "generous donation" would be a bad move. Economic stability of all schools should be a priority. The ability of any team to "buy in" to any conference is a recipe that will bite all in the backside. Invites should come from meeting equal standards without financial consideration other than stability.

Why is it so bad for a school to buy their way into a conference? It is basically what the P5 schools are doing with demographics, markets, and branding. At least a school will be committed if they are financially invested in the conference.

Anytime there is an organization, structure or group where one party has a monetary advantage, it creates an uneven playing field. That would create the fear, that has been expressed many times on this board, that Liberty will use it's cash to hire away coaches and throw money at the program to excel. It's not so much the actuality of the funding but more the perception and fear and uneasiness that it would cause. It would create a constant, underlying threat to the member schools. LU would be looked at as a cash cow.

The one exception could be if LU offered a one time "investment" into the conference to benefit itself and all other members in creating and/or advancing a network for the conference sharing it's media and network expertise. That could be an acceptable offer. Buying in purely with cash is a bad idea.

The best is to have the program be accepted on it's own merit meeting the standards and receiving an invite. If a negotiation is achieved by a financial investment in the conference where all members benefit, and not just cash to the members, that could be a benefit in considering the school.

Cash is king in most professions. It won't be king if flaunted or used to buy it's way in.

A "one time investment" is exactly the thing you are arguing against but whatever. Agree to disagree.

It's not the same. Giving cash is different than making improvements that benefit everyone. As others have stated here, it's a risky move and one that I hope Liberty does not make.

Agree to disagree.

Question: How is the COA treated for partial scholly's? Do walk-on's receive anything? Is there a standard amount or does each institution have to come up with their own value subject to certain guidelines?

Liberty shouldn't have to bribe. The first thing they should do is agree to adhere to the same FOIA type standards on transparency that all the public schools have to adhere to. Second thing is to agree to limit athletic budget to the neighborhood of the highest of the public schools. A lot of my objections would go away.

(05-07-2015 09:58 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  Liberty shouldn't have to bribe. The first thing they should do is agree to adhere to the same FOIA type standards on transparency that all the public schools have to adhere to. Second thing is to agree to limit athletic budget to the neighborhood of the highest of the public schools. A lot of my objections would go away.

While I certainly understand your thoughts, but from a big picture, what is the difference in how they proceed in a conference with a lot of public universities versus the way Duke, Vanderbilt, Stanford, Northwestern, and Rice go about business in their respective conferences.

For me the concerning issue is the way the average student gets accepted into Liberty. I have no issue with the education a student receives from LU, but when anyone who applies can be accepted, there is a trickle down effect to the entire system.

I realize their mission is to be able to give an affordable education to all who are willing to accept the challenge, but this agenda allows for very little balance between the privates and the public schools. Those elite privates I mentioned above have such strict criteria a student must meet for acceptance that the gains they have from being less regulated is balanced out against the public institutions' transparency issues.

I have very little issue with the money they make from their online program, but once again, I have never heard of anyone not being accepted into it for lack of academic qualifications prior to acceptance.

I'm sure my observations will be challenged. Being very honest, I hope they are refuted because I have an age 13 daughter who currently only knows JMU, Radford, and Liberty and Liberty is the only one of the 3 who offers the program in which she is currently interested. Though, being only 13 her ambitions are very much subject to change.

(05-07-2015 09:58 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  Liberty shouldn't have to bribe. The first thing they should do is agree to adhere to the same FOIA type standards on transparency that all the public schools have to adhere to. Second thing is to agree to limit athletic budget to the neighborhood of the highest of the public schools. A lot of my objections would go away.

If the trepidation of LU outspending conference members in athletic budgets is the issue for yea or nay, then yea it is. It gets a little tricky when any one team has a financial advantage over the others. Hence my thought in having the requirement to make an investment in media to help develop the league's exposure. Everyone gains.

(05-07-2015 10:28 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(05-07-2015 09:58 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  Liberty shouldn't have to bribe. The first thing they should do is agree to adhere to the same FOIA type standards on transparency that all the public schools have to adhere to. Second thing is to agree to limit athletic budget to the neighborhood of the highest of the public schools. A lot of my objections would go away.

While I certainly understand your thoughts, but from a big picture, what is the difference in how they proceed in a conference with a lot of public universities versus the way Duke, Vanderbilt, Stanford, Northwestern, and Rice go about business in their respective conferences.

For me the concerning issue is the way the average student gets accepted into Liberty. I have no issue with the education a student receives from LU, but when anyone who applies can be accepted, there is a trickle down effect to the entire system.

I realize their mission is to be able to give an affordable education to all who are willing to accept the challenge, but this agenda allows for very little balance between the privates and the public schools. Those elite privates I mentioned above have such strict criteria a student must meet for acceptance that the gains they have from being less regulated is balanced out against the public institutions' transparency issues.

I have very little issue with the money they make from their online program, but once again, I have never heard of anyone not being accepted into it for lack of academic qualifications prior to acceptance.

I'm sure my observations will be challenged. Being very honest, I hope they are refuted because I have an age 13 daughter who currently only knows JMU, Radford, and Liberty and Liberty is the only one of the 3 who offers the program in which she is currently interested. Though, being only 13 her ambitions are very much subject to change.

LU should be required to meet the same rules, regs, and comparable educational standards of any conference member schools. I am not an administrative educator to expand on the specifics but the standards need to be comparable.