(10-23-2014 06:01 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 12:34 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 12:31 PM)ApexRedWolf Wrote:  Speaking of defense....Cajuns you aint the Iron Curtain ....you gave up 600yds and 40pts.

A win is a win, but it's not all sunshine and roses with your defensive unit either.

They got a lot to work on as well.

Both teams gave up huge play after huge play. The thing is, we didn't claim to have the steel curtain coming into last nights game.

You can't blame us for touting our defense against the run before that game. We had excellent rush defense numbers, against seemingly good competition. Compounded by our belief before the season that our line was a problem area and not seeing any problems...until that game.

stAte was giving up close to 115 yards a game rushing heading into the game against UL. Nothing to really brag about.

(10-23-2014 03:35 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 03:24 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 06:28 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  ... but only because we already have Michael Gordon so McGuire wouldn't upgrade us as much there.

Injuries suck.

Still?

What does this even mean?

Do you still think Mcguire would not be an upgrade?

(10-23-2014 08:36 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 03:35 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 03:24 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 06:28 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  ... but only because we already have Michael Gordon so McGuire wouldn't upgrade us as much there.

Injuries suck.

Still?

What does this even mean?

Do you still think Mcguire would not be an upgrade?

Can we have him and our RB?

See reference time and time again to Louisiana Linemen sizes.
How big are the starting linemen? If they are that much bigger
than stAte's that must be something.

Quave LT 6'5 295.. Williams G 6'3 315... Johnson C 6'2 295 Quave G 6'4 324 Anderson RT 6'4 295

(10-23-2014 08:36 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 03:35 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 03:24 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 06:28 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  ... but only because we already have Michael Gordon so McGuire wouldn't upgrade us as much there.

Injuries suck.

Still?

What does this even mean?

Do you still think Mcguire would not be an upgrade?

I never said he wasn't, but no, he wouldn't be an upgrade over Michael Gordon. Probably a wash. Both average around 10 ypc and are pretty much the same guy. I do wish we had a big back and had returned more than one starter on the OL so we could run inside more but we don't have that this year.

(10-24-2014 08:16 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Quave LT 6'5 295.. Williams G 6'3 315... Johnson C 6'2 295 Quave G 6'4 324 Anderson RT 6'4 295

UL's line is big, but not that big. However, ASU's line is light by any major college standard.

DE 6'2" 224 lbs.
NG 6'3" 234 lbs.
DT 6'4" 268 lbs.
DE 6'3" 252 lbs.

(10-24-2014 08:33 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 08:36 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 03:35 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 03:24 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(10-16-2014 06:28 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  ... but only because we already have Michael Gordon so McGuire wouldn't upgrade us as much there.

Injuries suck.

Still?

What does this even mean?

Do you still think Mcguire would not be an upgrade?

I never said he wasn't, but no, he wouldn't be an upgrade over Michael Gordon. Probably a wash. Both average around 10 ypc and are pretty much the same guy. I do wish we had a big back and had returned more than one starter on the OL so we could run inside more but we don't have that this year.

Except McGuire averages 10 YPC with Alonzo Harris...also led nation in YPC last year as true freshman. Gordon is a great back but McGuire is a special talent. One of the best athletes from Louisiana in a long time. If HUD doesn't stay on him even when everyone thought he was a junior academically...we probably never get him to campus.

(10-24-2014 09:06 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 08:16 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Quave LT 6'5 295.. Williams G 6'3 315... Johnson C 6'2 295 Quave G 6'4 324 Anderson RT 6'4 295

UL's line is big, but not that big. However, ASU's line is light by any major college standard.

DE 6'2" 224 lbs.
NG 6'3" 234 lbs.
DT 6'4" 268 lbs.
DE 6'3" 252 lbs.

We are not huge but we are athletic. Most schools at our level that get guys that size aren't very athletic. M. Quave was a TE in high school and a damn good basketball player. They all have good footwork. D. Quave will be playing on Sundays next year.

(10-24-2014 09:13 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 08:33 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 08:36 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 03:35 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 03:24 PM)ragin4u Wrote:  Still?

What does this even mean?

Do you still think Mcguire would not be an upgrade?

I never said he wasn't, but no, he wouldn't be an upgrade over Michael Gordon. Probably a wash. Both average around 10 ypc and are pretty much the same guy. I do wish we had a big back and had returned more than one starter on the OL so we could run inside more but we don't have that this year.

Except McGuire averages 10 YPC with Alonzo Harris...also led nation in YPC last year as true freshman. Gordon is a great back but McGuire is a special talent. One of the best athletes from Louisiana in a long time. If HUD doesn't stay on him even when everyone thought he was a junior academically...we probably never get him to campus.

McGuire is very good but having Harris actually enhances his production. His big runs came when we had to try and shore up our DL by bringing in DBs in the box leaving the outside vulnerable. When we had Oku the last two years we were able to use Rocky Hayes and others to do the same thing. Gordon gets those yards despite our lack of a power running game inside.

Both very good players and hard to argue that one guy averaging 9.4 is better than a guy averaging 9.3. Gordon missed most of our first 4 games.

(10-24-2014 09:06 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 08:16 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Quave LT 6'5 295.. Williams G 6'3 315... Johnson C 6'2 295 Quave G 6'4 324 Anderson RT 6'4 295

UL's line is big, but not that big. However, ASU's line is light by any major college standard.

DE 6'2" 224 lbs.
NG 6'3" 234 lbs.
DT 6'4" 268 lbs.
DE 6'3" 252 lbs.

That's what happens when you have 5 different coaches in a 5 year period, each with their own ideas how to run the team. We had 1 scholarship Lineman starting Spring Ball this year. Rest are Freshman and JUCO guys, or walk-on's.

(10-24-2014 09:41 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 09:06 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 08:16 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Quave LT 6'5 295.. Williams G 6'3 315... Johnson C 6'2 295 Quave G 6'4 324 Anderson RT 6'4 295

UL's line is big, but not that big. However, ASU's line is light by any major college standard.

DE 6'2" 224 lbs.
NG 6'3" 234 lbs.
DT 6'4" 268 lbs.
DE 6'3" 252 lbs.

That's what happens when you have 5 different coaches in a 5 year period, each with their own ideas how to run the team. We had 1 scholarship Lineman starting Spring Ball this year. Rest are Freshman and JUCO guys, or walk-on's.

Those freshman and juco guys are on scholarship right? There are a whole lot more excuses coming out if arkansas now than 4 days ago.

(10-24-2014 09:47 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 09:41 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 09:06 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 08:16 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Quave LT 6'5 295.. Williams G 6'3 315... Johnson C 6'2 295 Quave G 6'4 324 Anderson RT 6'4 295

UL's line is big, but not that big. However, ASU's line is light by any major college standard.

DE 6'2" 224 lbs.
NG 6'3" 234 lbs.
DT 6'4" 268 lbs.
DE 6'3" 252 lbs.

That's what happens when you have 5 different coaches in a 5 year period, each with their own ideas how to run the team. We had 1 scholarship Lineman starting Spring Ball this year. Rest are Freshman and JUCO guys, or walk-on's.

Those freshman and juco guys are on scholarship right? There are a whole lot more excuses coming out if arkansas now than 4 days ago.

He was just stating a fact. Our true freshmen just weren't strong enough to handle a big experienced OL. Congrats.

(10-24-2014 09:47 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 09:41 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 09:06 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 08:16 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Quave LT 6'5 295.. Williams G 6'3 315... Johnson C 6'2 295 Quave G 6'4 324 Anderson RT 6'4 295

UL's line is big, but not that big. However, ASU's line is light by any major college standard.

DE 6'2" 224 lbs.
NG 6'3" 234 lbs.
DT 6'4" 268 lbs.
DE 6'3" 252 lbs.

That's what happens when you have 5 different coaches in a 5 year period, each with their own ideas how to run the team. We had 1 scholarship Lineman starting Spring Ball this year. Rest are Freshman and JUCO guys, or walk-on's.

Those freshman and juco guys are on scholarship right? There are a whole lot more excuses coming out if arkansas now than 4 days ago.

Not that many, but Chief is a professional at it!

(10-24-2014 09:54 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 09:47 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 09:41 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 09:06 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 08:16 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Quave LT 6'5 295.. Williams G 6'3 315... Johnson C 6'2 295 Quave G 6'4 324 Anderson RT 6'4 295

UL's line is big, but not that big. However, ASU's line is light by any major college standard.

DE 6'2" 224 lbs.
NG 6'3" 234 lbs.
DT 6'4" 268 lbs.
DE 6'3" 252 lbs.

That's what happens when you have 5 different coaches in a 5 year period, each with their own ideas how to run the team. We had 1 scholarship Lineman starting Spring Ball this year. Rest are Freshman and JUCO guys, or walk-on's.

Those freshman and juco guys are on scholarship right? There are a whole lot more excuses coming out if arkansas now than 4 days ago.

He was just stating a fact. Our true freshmen just weren't strong enough to handle a big experienced OL. Congrats.

Was he stating facts when he mentioned how slow the Cajuns looked in some of his post and how fast the Arky State defense was with superior athletes? Facts seem to change after games or at least references to certain facts.

(10-24-2014 09:54 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 09:47 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 09:41 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 09:06 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 08:16 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Quave LT 6'5 295.. Williams G 6'3 315... Johnson C 6'2 295 Quave G 6'4 324 Anderson RT 6'4 295

UL's line is big, but not that big. However, ASU's line is light by any major college standard.

DE 6'2" 224 lbs.
NG 6'3" 234 lbs.
DT 6'4" 268 lbs.
DE 6'3" 252 lbs.

That's what happens when you have 5 different coaches in a 5 year period, each with their own ideas how to run the team. We had 1 scholarship Lineman starting Spring Ball this year. Rest are Freshman and JUCO guys, or walk-on's.

Those freshman and juco guys are on scholarship right? There are a whole lot more excuses coming out if arkansas now than 4 days ago.

He was just stating a fact. Our true freshmen just weren't strong enough to handle a big experienced OL. Congrats.

The story changed a lot, last week we were average team who beat up on a bad TXST, we would see what it was like to face a superior defense. Now, we dominated that supposed superior defense it's not because we were good but that the defense was actually inferior...nothing to do with us. I get it stAte list the game, we didn't win it. Each coach still recruited DL, where did they all go? They quit? Kicked off?

(10-24-2014 10:10 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  The story changed a lot, last week we were average team who beat up on a bad TXST, we would see what it was like to face a superior defense. Now, we dominated that supposed superior defense it's not because we were good but that the defense was actually inferior...nothing to do with us.

I've said it on numerous boards now, including this one.

ULL whipped our ass in the trenches and won the football game.

Citing youth and inexperience as the reason why that occurred isn't a slight to ULL. It's the truth. ULL's lines were better, stronger and more experienced than stAte's. It's something stAte needs to work to improve.

Now... what else needs to be said to allay your bruised, offended ego?

(10-24-2014 10:36 AM)asuwon Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 10:10 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  The story changed a lot, last week we were average team who beat up on a bad TXST, we would see what it was like to face a superior defense. Now, we dominated that supposed superior defense it's not because we were good but that the defense was actually inferior...nothing to do with us.

I've said it on numerous boards now, including this one.

ULL whipped our ass in the trenches and won the football game.

Citing youth and inexperience as the reason why that occurred isn't a slight to ULL. It's the truth. ULL's lines were better, stronger and more experienced than stAte's. It's something stAte needs to work to improve.

Now... what else needs to be said to allay your bruised, offended ego?

Can you post a link to where I was talking to you above?
Link?

(10-24-2014 10:38 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 10:36 AM)asuwon Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 10:10 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  The story changed a lot, last week we were average team who beat up on a bad TXST, we would see what it was like to face a superior defense. Now, we dominated that supposed superior defense it's not because we were good but that the defense was actually inferior...nothing to do with us.

I've said it on numerous boards now, including this one.

ULL whipped our ass in the trenches and won the football game.

Citing youth and inexperience as the reason why that occurred isn't a slight to ULL. It's the truth. ULL's lines were better, stronger and more experienced than stAte's. It's something stAte needs to work to improve.

Now... what else needs to be said to allay your bruised, offended ego?

Can you post a link to where I was talking to you above?
Link?

I've never seen a fan base so unable to enjoy a big win, for perceived feelings of being slighted, than ULL.

You guys won. You were better on the field than stAte. Enjoy it! Congrats!

I look forward to the game next year. I had a good time in Lafayette this week. I hope you're able to make it to Jonesboro next year.

(10-24-2014 10:10 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 09:54 AM)Crump1 Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 09:47 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 09:41 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 09:06 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  UL's line is big, but not that big. However, ASU's line is light by any major college standard.

DE 6'2" 224 lbs.
NG 6'3" 234 lbs.
DT 6'4" 268 lbs.
DE 6'3" 252 lbs.

That's what happens when you have 5 different coaches in a 5 year period, each with their own ideas how to run the team. We had 1 scholarship Lineman starting Spring Ball this year. Rest are Freshman and JUCO guys, or walk-on's.

Those freshman and juco guys are on scholarship right? There are a whole lot more excuses coming out if arkansas now than 4 days ago.

He was just stating a fact. Our true freshmen just weren't strong enough to handle a big experienced OL. Congrats.

The story changed a lot, last week we were average team who beat up on a bad TXST, we would see what it was like to face a superior defense. Now, we dominated that supposed superior defense it's not because we were good but that the defense was actually inferior...nothing to do with us. I get it stAte list the game, we didn't win it. Each coach still recruited DL, where did they all go? They quit? Kicked off?

Freeze and Harsin recruited one DT each and one of those never qualified. Malzahn recruited a handful and one is left thanks to being granted an extra year. He is the only guy we have back after Markel Owens was murdered last spring.

We hired young exceptional OCs and it paid off but there is a cost as well sometimes. It still beats the alternative path we were on before we went with our coaching search formula.