(07-27-2014 08:39 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-27-2014 04:49 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(07-26-2014 05:11 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-26-2014 05:05 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  Going to a bowl game with 6 wins is not going to get anyone a big promotion unless your dad was a legendary coach and utk is hiring again ...


look at the records of coaches that are hired from 1,000,000 non-BCS jobs to BCS $2 - $3 million jobs, they are conference champs and 10 win coaches; not coaches going to 2 straight bowls with a 6 and 8 win seasons .. Tommy West thought he was going to parlay an 8 win season to a SEC job and he did not even come close to getting the bottom of the barrel job.

I don't think just one will get him a promotion, either, but back to back bowls might, considering the program was arguably the worst in FBS when he got here.

look at the coaches that get the next step jobs.. they win 10 games or more before they get the big-time offers... the coach at UL-Layfayette has gone to 3 straight bowls, won them all... he has not moved on...

BFS is very strong....

But I think the circumstances are different. When Fuente got here, we were arguably the worst team in FBS. So I don't think he has to do multiple 10-win seasons before he starts drawing interest from other schools.

But I return to my original premise, which is that two more years could possibly tell the tale for Fuente at Memphis. If he doesn't make a bowl in the next two seasons, he could be in trouble. If he does, he could be looking at other job offers. And obviously, if he misses by a lot, he's gone, and if he turns it around big time, he's likely gone.

So the tipping point is somewhere in the middle. It could still go either way.

It can also be argued somewhat persuasively, that he has already had the equivalent of two 8 win seasons at Memphis.

(07-28-2014 08:46 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-27-2014 08:39 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-27-2014 04:49 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(07-26-2014 05:11 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-26-2014 05:05 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  Going to a bowl game with 6 wins is not going to get anyone a big promotion unless your dad was a legendary coach and utk is hiring again ...


look at the records of coaches that are hired from 1,000,000 non-BCS jobs to BCS $2 - $3 million jobs, they are conference champs and 10 win coaches; not coaches going to 2 straight bowls with a 6 and 8 win seasons .. Tommy West thought he was going to parlay an 8 win season to a SEC job and he did not even come close to getting the bottom of the barrel job.

I don't think just one will get him a promotion, either, but back to back bowls might, considering the program was arguably the worst in FBS when he got here.

look at the coaches that get the next step jobs.. they win 10 games or more before they get the big-time offers... the coach at UL-Layfayette has gone to 3 straight bowls, won them all... he has not moved on...

BFS is very strong....

But I think the circumstances are different. When Fuente got here, we were arguably the worst team in FBS. So I don't think he has to do multiple 10-win seasons before he starts drawing interest from other schools.

But I return to my original premise, which is that two more years could possibly tell the tale for Fuente at Memphis. If he doesn't make a bowl in the next two seasons, he could be in trouble. If he does, he could be looking at other job offers. And obviously, if he misses by a lot, he's gone, and if he turns it around big time, he's likely gone.

So the tipping point is somewhere in the middle. It could still go either way.

It can also be argued somewhat persuasively, that he has already had the equivalent of two 8 win seasons at Memphis.

Hmm, I wouldn't go that far. Last season, we absolutely tanked the last 2 games, and we never pulled off any of the big upsets that we came close on.

(07-28-2014 08:46 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-27-2014 08:39 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-27-2014 04:49 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(07-26-2014 05:11 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-26-2014 05:05 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  Going to a bowl game with 6 wins is not going to get anyone a big promotion unless your dad was a legendary coach and utk is hiring again ...


look at the records of coaches that are hired from 1,000,000 non-BCS jobs to BCS $2 - $3 million jobs, they are conference champs and 10 win coaches; not coaches going to 2 straight bowls with a 6 and 8 win seasons .. Tommy West thought he was going to parlay an 8 win season to a SEC job and he did not even come close to getting the bottom of the barrel job.

I don't think just one will get him a promotion, either, but back to back bowls might, considering the program was arguably the worst in FBS when he got here.

look at the coaches that get the next step jobs.. they win 10 games or more before they get the big-time offers... the coach at UL-Layfayette has gone to 3 straight bowls, won them all... he has not moved on...

BFS is very strong....

But I think the circumstances are different. When Fuente got here, we were arguably the worst team in FBS. So I don't think he has to do multiple 10-win seasons before he starts drawing interest from other schools.

But I return to my original premise, which is that two more years could possibly tell the tale for Fuente at Memphis. If he doesn't make a bowl in the next two seasons, he could be in trouble. If he does, he could be looking at other job offers. And obviously, if he misses by a lot, he's gone, and if he turns it around big time, he's likely gone.

So the tipping point is somewhere in the middle. It could still go either way.

It can also be argued somewhat persuasively, that he has already had the equivalent of two 8 win seasons at Memphis.

I'm not sure what this means. Is this like getting a moral victory? Because those make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. You know, when we are supposed to lose by 30 and only lose by 10 ... and there were two bad calls that "absolutely cost us the game".

Maybe we could email Bob W and ask him to put an asterisk on the last two seasons in the media guide that says "Equivalent to 8 wins".

We will win at least 6 games this year.

If we win our first conference game (at Cincy), "b" will be starting threads about which school's are trying to hire Fuente away.

(07-28-2014 08:58 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 08:46 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-27-2014 08:39 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-27-2014 04:49 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(07-26-2014 05:11 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I don't think just one will get him a promotion, either, but back to back bowls might, considering the program was arguably the worst in FBS when he got here.

look at the coaches that get the next step jobs.. they win 10 games or more before they get the big-time offers... the coach at UL-Layfayette has gone to 3 straight bowls, won them all... he has not moved on...

BFS is very strong....

But I think the circumstances are different. When Fuente got here, we were arguably the worst team in FBS. So I don't think he has to do multiple 10-win seasons before he starts drawing interest from other schools.

But I return to my original premise, which is that two more years could possibly tell the tale for Fuente at Memphis. If he doesn't make a bowl in the next two seasons, he could be in trouble. If he does, he could be looking at other job offers. And obviously, if he misses by a lot, he's gone, and if he turns it around big time, he's likely gone.

So the tipping point is somewhere in the middle. It could still go either way.

It can also be argued somewhat persuasively, that he has already had the equivalent of two 8 win seasons at Memphis.

Hmm, I wouldn't go that far. Last season, we absolutely tanked the last 2 games, and we never pulled off any of the big upsets that we came close on.

Agree 100%. Those last two games didn't do Fuente any favors. I was a pretty big believer in what he was doing up until then. Now a little bit of doubt has crept in. I'm still on board, but I'm a bit more cautious.

(07-28-2014 09:11 AM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(07-28-2014 08:46 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-27-2014 08:39 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-27-2014 04:49 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(07-26-2014 05:11 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I don't think just one will get him a promotion, either, but back to back bowls might, considering the program was arguably the worst in FBS when he got here.

look at the coaches that get the next step jobs.. they win 10 games or more before they get the big-time offers... the coach at UL-Layfayette has gone to 3 straight bowls, won them all... he has not moved on...

BFS is very strong....

But I think the circumstances are different. When Fuente got here, we were arguably the worst team in FBS. So I don't think he has to do multiple 10-win seasons before he starts drawing interest from other schools.

But I return to my original premise, which is that two more years could possibly tell the tale for Fuente at Memphis. If he doesn't make a bowl in the next two seasons, he could be in trouble. If he does, he could be looking at other job offers. And obviously, if he misses by a lot, he's gone, and if he turns it around big time, he's likely gone.

So the tipping point is somewhere in the middle. It could still go either way.

It can also be argued somewhat persuasively, that he has already had the equivalent of two 8 win seasons at Memphis.

I'm not sure what this means. Is this like getting a moral victory? Because those make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. You know, when we are supposed to lose by 30 and only lose by 10 ... and there were two bad calls that "absolutely cost us the game".

Maybe we could email Bob W and ask him to put an asterisk on the last two seasons in the media guide that says "Equivalent to 8 wins".

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