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Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
Must be nice not having to win a position battle.
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
Explains the recruiting. Let's see if that is sustainable.
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
"A lot of those fighters are back..."

(...but 14 will be replaced by freshmen I recruited this year).

Also - "5,000 more people per game"?

Obviously he's not talking about home games.
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
This guy was quiet this spring/summer, it was refreshing. He opens his mouth at media day, sounds like a d0uche, contradicts himself and effectively erases all the positive of his being quiet in two sentences.

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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 07:17 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  "A lot of those fighters are back..."

(...but 14 will be replaced by freshmen I recruited this year).

Also - "5,000 more people per game"?

Obviously he's not talking about home games.

His fighters will be loud and proud on the sidelines! 03-2thumbsup

Seriously. What's wrong with him?
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
DB, straight up, what do you want WMU to do? Fleck is the coach. He is under contract. I was never in favor of Cubit being fired, but that doesn't change the facts of our current program.

Again, straight answer, what do you want WMU to do or change given the current set of circumstances?

I am not drinking the Fleck Kool-aide, but I don't see the point of being negative.
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
14 freshmen will start a game at some point in the season. Not all at the same time.

Competition for positions will determine who and WHEN they start or even start.

Playing time may be more appropriate of a statement.

GO BRONCOS. Season is just around the corner.
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 07:43 PM)wmutkelaw Wrote:  DB, straight up, what do you want WMU to do? Fleck is the coach. He is under contract. I was never in favor of Cubit being fired, but that doesn't change the facts of our current program.

Again, straight answer, what do you want WMU to do or change given the current set of circumstances?

I am not drinking the Fleck Kool-aide, but I don't see the point of being negative.

Give him an ultimatum for this season. He improves greatly towards the stated goal of taking us to the next level or we make a change.

And in the meantime, tell him to STFU, he's an embarrassment.

Anything else is just self serving bs from Dunn about why the change was made. Own it, man up.
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
What new facilities did we build? I'm pretty confident we just remodeled...right?


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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
He talks about 10 seniors, 14 juniors, 30 newcomers...are there really 20 "others". Interesting math equation. Need to look at that roster again. 24 "upper classman" is crazy, guess that's what winter house cleaning does for yah.
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 07:12 PM)jubbasubba Wrote:  Must be nice not having to win a position battle.
http://coachingsearch.247sports.com/Arti...n-29795669

I doubt that means just offense and defense. Likely refers to special teams PR, KR, LS.

At least 1 at DB
2 at LB
2 at DE
1 DT
1 TE
2 OL
1 RB- Which will probably be by committee
1 or 2 at WR when he's running 4 wide

I think Jon Henry or Ishmail would have an edge over a freshmen like Asante Brown, but if all things are equal, he'll probably go with Brown.

Other than those two if the freshmen has a edge in speed, and body type, what has he got to lose by getting them on the field experience.
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 07:55 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 07:43 PM)wmutkelaw Wrote:  DB, straight up, what do you want WMU to do? Fleck is the coach. He is under contract. I was never in favor of Cubit being fired, but that doesn't change the facts of our current program.

Again, straight answer, what do you want WMU to do or change given the current set of circumstances?

I am not drinking the Fleck Kool-aide, but I don't see the point of being negative.

Give him an ultimatum for this season. He improves greatly towards the stated goal of taking us to the next level or we make a change.

And in the meantime, tell him to STFU, he's an embarrassment.

Anything else is just self serving bs from Dunn about why the change was made. Own it, man up.

Fair enough.
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
I won't even go that far, I said that my expectations were that we were more competitive than last year, as in not looking "buffoonish" or lame in terms of preparation. These guys were fighting hard and many times it was more than obvious that their coaches had failed them.

I'll take that or he should be gone and Dunn should own it, if not, Dunn is as jive and Peej and it's easy to see why he swallowed the Peej line hook, line and sinker on the Skype interview. The biggest sucker for a sales bs pitch is another sales bs artist.
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 07:14 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  Explains the recruiting. Let's see if that is sustainable.

You can only hope and pray that is unsustainable, and your dream comes true for you.........


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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 08:08 PM)Cant make this sh t up Wrote:  You know that Fleck wont get an ultimatum at least not without seeing how this 2014 class pans out. Lets throw the 2015 class in there as well because he has recruited kids in this class to further plug the rest of the boat holes.

DB give a win/loss record for us that is acceptable to you that shows us moving to the next level over the next several years.

Fair Enough?

If he recruits 2015 kids by promising them starting jobs like he did 2014, his well will run dry. Even his smarmy bs only goes so far.
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 08:11 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 07:14 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  Explains the recruiting. Let's see if that is sustainable.

You can only hope and pray it comes true for you.........


"Please lord, let him suck, so I can crown myself Kingchit here on Turd Island."

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Told you rocking chair man, I want him to win and leave.

I don't trust his type, never did, but I've seen that kind of bs succeed in the short term.

You can only hope it does here.
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 07:59 PM)Doo Wrote:  What new facilities did we build? I'm pretty confident we just remodeled...right?


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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 08:13 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 08:11 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 07:14 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  Explains the recruiting. Let's see if that is sustainable.

You can only hope and pray it comes true for you.........


"Please lord, let him suck, so I can crown myself Kingchit here on Turd Island."

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Told you rocking chair man, I want him to win and leave.

I don't trust his type, never did, but I've seen that kind of bs succeed in the short term.

You can only hope it does here.

That's your win win answer, but I've stopped buying that you really want him to win. I think it's equally important to you to be right about him, that he was a bad hire and cant coach. You're longing for the day when you can all tell us, "I told ya so."
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 08:17 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 08:13 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 08:11 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 07:14 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  Explains the recruiting. Let's see if that is sustainable.

You can only hope and pray it comes true for you.........


"Please lord, let him suck, so I can crown myself Kingchit here on Turd Island."

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Told you rocking chair man, I want him to win and leave.

I don't trust his type, never did, but I've seen that kind of bs succeed in the short term.

You can only hope it does here.

That's your win win answer, but I've stopped buying that you really want him to win. I think it's equally important to you to be right about him, that he was a bad hire and cant coach. You're longing for the day when you can all tell us, "I told ya so."

You forget I didn't like the Donewald firing and was behind Mac 100%. I want WMU to win first, but I don't think this guy represents us well.

I want him to win and go. THAT is win win. Nice try at the juxtaposition though. 03-thumbsup
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 08:14 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 07:59 PM)Doo Wrote:  What new facilities did we build? I'm pretty confident we just remodeled...right?


Always spinning, nothing straight forward.

Anxiously awaiting touring those new facilities next HC!! 03-2thumbsup

Now you're ragging him on semantics?

Does his bowel movements meet your standard?

Oh wait that's not a DB quote, that's a Doo quote 03-shhhh 03-lmfao03-lmfao
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