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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
Just read the article, here are my thoughts...

I cringe when he hear him say things like this:

Quote:I learned I can handle any situation. I promise you that,” Fleck said of 2013. “Any situation you go through makes you tougher. I’ve never been one to let the circumstance dictate my behavior. I learned that I’m true to that...

What I learned about myself was that I can do it. I can definitely do it. I’ve weathered the storm, and I’ve come out better. I’ve continued to change, and it’s been a lot of fun.”

He really needs to stop using the "I" word. It does occasionally come across as a little self-serving. The other side to that, is we don't know the context of the question. It just doesn't do himself any favors.

Also really don't like this statement:

Quote:I probably would have ranked us sixth in the West. Eastern Michigan beat us. We didn’t beat anybody in our division. They should have ranked us sixth.

I understand being cautious here, but I'd rather see him come out with a little more confidence. I get what he's saying, but it comes across very poorly.
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
I really think this guy should be beating CMU this year, not to mention EMU, Miami, and Idaho. No excuses. We should have beaten CMU last year, the other three had more pathetic programs than us and have first year coaches.

Throw in the 1AA school Murray State, and this coach has a five win schedule and only has to steal a couple more, and he's a hero. Anything less and I think he's a waste.
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 09:06 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 09:01 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 08:18 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  I want WMU to win first, but I don't think this guy represents us well.

What's more important to you: The way the student athletes he coaches feel about him, or everyone else including alums and fans? Serious question, bet you don't have the guts to answer it truthfully.

I care less if anyone likes him, alumni, players, other coaches, BP, HJ, the numerous people who were yelling at him from the stands at the game I went to last year, you name it......If he had a plan, didn't come across as a stooge and won, none of that would matter.

Only you and Willie Loman worry about being "well liked".

Then you are okay with having a plan, winning, and accepting this "stooge" when it happens?
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
For the record Peej says some variation of the word "I" 21 times in just those couple quotes in this article.
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 09:16 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  Just read the article, here are my thoughts...

I cringe when he hear him say things like this:

Quote:I learned I can handle any situation. I promise you that,” Fleck said of 2013. “Any situation you go through makes you tougher. I’ve never been one to let the circumstance dictate my behavior. I learned that I’m true to that...

What I learned about myself was that I can do it. I can definitely do it. I’ve weathered the storm, and I’ve come out better. I’ve continued to change, and it’s been a lot of fun.”

He really needs to stop using the "I" word. It does occasionally come across as a little self-serving. The other side to that, is we don't know the context of the question. It just doesn't do himself any favors.

Also really don't like this statement:

Quote:I probably would have ranked us sixth in the West. Eastern Michigan beat us. We didn’t beat anybody in our division. They should have ranked us sixth.

I understand being cautious here, but I'd rather see him come out with a little more confidence. I get what he's saying, but it comes across very poorly.

You're like the last person here to realize he's about him and himself only. Welcome.
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 09:19 PM)Doo Wrote:  For the record Peej says some variation of the word "I" 21 times in just those couple quotes in this article.

Made me 03-puke

We're the stupid ones, he's making 400 large to snow a few key people.
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 09:19 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  You're like the last person here to realize he's about him and himself only. Welcome.

Of course it's about him. He has an ego, sure. But in order for "him" to be successful, WMU has to be successful. 03-idea
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 09:16 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  Just read the article, here are my thoughts...

I cringe when he hear him say things like this:

Quote:I learned I can handle any situation. I promise you that,” Fleck said of 2013. “Any situation you go through makes you tougher. I’ve never been one to let the circumstance dictate my behavior. I learned that I’m true to that...

What I learned about myself was that I can do it. I can definitely do it. I’ve weathered the storm, and I’ve come out better. I’ve continued to change, and it’s been a lot of fun.”



He really needs to stop using the "I" word. It does occasionally come across as a little self-serving. The other side to that, is we don't know the context of the question. It just doesn't do himself any favors.

Also really don't like this statement:

Quote:I probably would have ranked us sixth in the West. Eastern Michigan beat us. We didn’t beat anybody in our division. They should have ranked us sixth.

I understand being cautious here, but I'd rather see him come out with a little more confidence. I get what he's saying, but it comes across very poorly.


HJ he wanted preseason last place because of his WTF motto, and for future talking points and potential spin. If we win he can say "we were picked last" if we lose he can say "everyone knew we would struggle"
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 09:16 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  Just read the article, here are my thoughts...

I cringe when he hear him say things like this:

Quote:I learned I can handle any situation. I promise you that,” Fleck said of 2013. “Any situation you go through makes you tougher. I’ve never been one to let the circumstance dictate my behavior. I learned that I’m true to that...

What I learned about myself was that I can do it. I can definitely do it. I’ve weathered the storm, and I’ve come out better. I’ve continued to change, and it’s been a lot of fun.”

He really needs to stop using the "I" word. It does occasionally come across as a little self-serving. The other side to that, is we don't know the context of the question. It just doesn't do himself any favors.

Also really don't like this statement:

Quote:I probably would have ranked us sixth in the West. Eastern Michigan beat us. We didn’t beat anybody in our division. They should have ranked us sixth.

I understand being cautious here, but I'd rather see him come out with a little more confidence. I get what he's saying, but it comes across very poorly.

True though, at least he is being honest. EMU Coaches: "How the hell do we get ranked below a team we beat on our own division"
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
ahem!! (throat clear)....ahem!! ME ME MEMEMEME!!!!
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 09:18 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  I really think this guy should be beating CMU this year, not to mention EMU, Miami, and Idaho. No excuses. We should have beaten CMU last year, the other three had more pathetic programs than us and have first year coaches.

Throw in the 1AA school Murray State, and this coach has a five win schedule and only has to steal a couple more, and he's a hero. Anything less and I think he's a waste.

Finally got an answer out of you for this years expectations! And I totally agree! Someone keep this response handy so we can refer to it in November...DB might call Fleck a HERO...wow that is BIG NEWS coming from DB.
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
He would be and I would be the first to admit it, I'd even help him pack and move too. 03-thumbsup
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Really disappointed in our local media also that there is nothing up yet on media day. That's across the board too. Pretty sad when I have to revert to Hustle Belt and 247sports for WMU media day info.
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(07-23-2014 09:32 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  Really disappointed in our local media also that there is nothing up yet on media day. That's across the board too. Pretty sad when I have to revert to Hustle Belt and 247sports for WMU media day info.


Their copy was slow to be delivered, the "I" key was stuck! 03-lmfao
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(07-23-2014 09:29 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  He would be and I would be the first to admit it, I'd even help him pack and move too. 03-thumbsup

Now that's funny! 01-ncaabbs
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There's nothing new to read.

Look at what I did, look at the greatest class in MAC history etc...
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(07-23-2014 09:34 PM)Doo Wrote:  There's nothing new to read.

Look at what I did, look at the greatest class in MAC history etc...

How much higher is this class, taking in account the kid from OSU who was in that calc isn't coming here, than the next highest class in MAC history?

Facts?
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(07-23-2014 09:32 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  Really disappointed in our local media also that there is nothing up yet on media day. That's across the board too. Pretty sad when I have to revert to Hustle Belt and 247sports for WMU media day info.

Local FOX channel just said they are going to have a segment during sports on PJ at the MAC media day.
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
Phil Steele (after the shakedown) has it ranked #69. Certainly someone has beaten that.
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(07-23-2014 09:36 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 09:34 PM)Doo Wrote:  There's nothing new to read.

Look at what I did, look at the greatest class in MAC history etc...

How much higher is this class, taking in account the kid from OSU who was in that calc isn't coming here, than the next highest class in MAC history?

Facts?

You should try something new by doing a little of your own research instead on relying on others to do it for you. Just a suggestion.
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