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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 08:19 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 08:14 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 07:59 PM)Doo Wrote:  What new facilities did we build? I'm pretty confident we just remodeled...right?


Always spinning, nothing straight forward.

Anxiously awaiting touring those new facilities next HC!! 03-2thumbsup

Now you're ragging him on semantics?

Does his bowel movements meet your standard?

You're the one monitoring your stool samples these days, I'm not to that point yet. 03-lmfao
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 08:19 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 08:14 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 07:59 PM)Doo Wrote:  What new facilities did we build? I'm pretty confident we just remodeled...right?


Always spinning, nothing straight forward.

Anxiously awaiting touring those new facilities next HC!! 03-2thumbsup

Now you're ragging him on semantics?

Does his bowel movements meet your standard?

Oh wait that's not a DB quote, that's a Doo quote 03-shhhh 03-lmfao03-lmfao

Boy oh boy, you got me!! Now admit Doo just had you guys REELING with facts and details. 05-nono
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
Fall Camp will be interesting. I'm hoping to watch a few practices because I have a feeling there might be some scrapping going on. At least there should be.
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 08:24 PM)jubbasubba Wrote:  Fall Camp will be interesting. I'm hoping to watch a few practices because I have a feeling there might be some scrapping going on. At least there should be.

If I'm an upperclassman I'm crushing some Freshmen who were promised spots.
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 08:20 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 08:19 PM)Chipdip2 Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 08:14 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 07:59 PM)Doo Wrote:  What new facilities did we build? I'm pretty confident we just remodeled...right?


Always spinning, nothing straight forward.

Anxiously awaiting touring those new facilities next HC!! 03-2thumbsup

Now you're ragging him on semantics?

Does his bowel movements meet your standard?

You're the one monitoring your stool samples these days, I'm not to that point yet. 03-lmfao

Good rebuttal Ron........
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
I said yet. Wait, you can go there but I can't? 03-idea
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 08:12 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 08:08 PM)Cant make this sh t up Wrote:  You know that Fleck wont get an ultimatum at least not without seeing how this 2014 class pans out. Lets throw the 2015 class in there as well because he has recruited kids in this class to further plug the rest of the boat holes.

DB give a win/loss record for us that is acceptable to you that shows us moving to the next level over the next several years.

Fair Enough?

If he recruits 2015 kids by promising them starting jobs like he did 2014, his well will run dry. Even his smarmy bs only goes so far.

I think his recruiting strategy will definitely have to change with the 2016 class, not necessarily with some of the 2015 kids though. Still think that the 2015 class plugs the holes of the 2014 class and whatever other positions Fleck feels that Cubits guys are gonna have to GO...
Saying this knowing that you think someone else will be recruiting that 2016 class.
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
There won't be any Cubit guys in 2016.
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
I'm ok with Fleck winning and leaving. Then go out and find a "coach" and have him hold onto the wheel. Because if we are winning with these recruits we will continue to win when we hire a real "coach".

Create a BGSU situation. New coach, with old coaches recruits who moves up in the football world, predicted to win the MAC again with old coaches players. Several years ago same situation with NIU, and twice with CMU until they hired Eeyore Dan...03-zzz
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 08:32 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  There won't be any Cubit guys in 2016.

True, but the 2013 class would still be credited to Cubit...whatever is left of them
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So CMU is so bad with Dan they're a sure win?
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 08:43 PM)Cant make this sh t up Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 08:32 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  There won't be any Cubit guys in 2016.

True, but the 2013 class would still be credited to Cubit...whatever is left of them

Fleck won't keep any around for that long. Even one of the GA's left, to be a GA!!!

Richter got a job in Missouri btw, surprised to see that hasn't been posted here.
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
Peej could always talk a few Illinois guys into transferring so we can have a few Cubit recruits to blame things on... 03-wink. Just kidding....relax.
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Wait, do non-qualifiers count? 03-idea
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 08:43 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  So CMU is so bad with Dan they're a sure win?

No. .500, middle of the PAC...that's not what Kelly or Jones did up there... that's my point. Kelly and then Jones had it going...then Eeyore gets job and screws with the steering wheel and crashes it and then has been trying to fix it for 5 fn years.

Fine by me.

That's what you want right? Dislike Fleck but want WMU to win...then get Fleck the hell out of town and find a real "coach" to keep us winning like CMU did with Jones.
And I am not comparing Fleck to Kelly 05-nono Just a scenario for your vision of Western.
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(07-23-2014 08:18 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  I want WMU to win first, but I don't think this guy represents us well.

What's more important to you: The way the student athletes he coaches feel about him, or everyone else including alums and fans? Serious question, bet you don't have the guts to answer it truthfully.
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 08:44 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  Even one of the GA's left, to be a GA!!!

We've already gone over this. Engel left for Miami because he has a history with Martin at GVSU from back in the day. But keep fishing.
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(07-23-2014 09:01 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 08:44 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  Even one of the GA's left, to be a GA!!!

We've already gone over this. Engel left for Miami because he has a history with Martin at GVSU from back in the day. But keep fishing.

Yeah, but that's not what I was talking about here.
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(07-23-2014 08:59 PM)Cant make this sh t up Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 08:43 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  So CMU is so bad with Dan they're a sure win?

No. .500, middle of the PAC...that's not what Kelly or Jones did up there... that's my point. Kelly and then Jones had it going...then Eeyore gets job and screws with the steering wheel and crashes it and then has been trying to fix it for 5 fn years.

Fine by me.

That's what you want right? Dislike Fleck but want WMU to win...then get Fleck the hell out of town and find a real "coach" to keep us winning like CMU did with Jones.
And I am not comparing Fleck to Kelly 05-nono Just a scenario for your vision of Western.

That's a win/win attempt by you. You want to criticize CMU for having Dan but then you don't have the stones to say we should beat them after losing a game we should have won last year. If we're improving, we should beat CMU, right?
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RE: Confirmation that Fleck is starting 14 true freshman.,,
(07-23-2014 09:01 PM)Hoekjeness Wrote:  
(07-23-2014 08:18 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  I want WMU to win first, but I don't think this guy represents us well.

What's more important to you: The way the student athletes he coaches feel about him, or everyone else including alums and fans? Serious question, bet you don't have the guts to answer it truthfully.

I care less if anyone likes him, alumni, players, other coaches, BP, HJ, the numerous people who were yelling at him from the stands at the game I went to last year, you name it......If he had a plan, didn't come across as a stooge and won, none of that would matter.

Only you and Willie Loman worry about being "well liked".
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