(07-08-2014 10:02 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 10:01 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  Every thread turns into some sort of ECU pissing match, jeez.

The first post was basically trying to start one, so where else would this go?

I didn't even see that. Pretty lame...

Back to Tulane....

(07-08-2014 10:04 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 10:02 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 10:01 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  Every thread turns into some sort of ECU pissing match, jeez.

The first post was basically trying to start one, so where else would this go?

Well with the defensiveness of ECU fans, there's only one direction apparently.

Was there any point other than to start a fight to take a shot at ECU in a thread that should have nothing to do with ECU? I have no problem with having a pissing match, but let's just be honest about when one is getting started. If ECU fans were derailing a thread we weren't mentioned in then sure we are being "defensive" and making everything about us. OP took a shot at us in the first post so this is a smack thread and will be treated as such.

(07-08-2014 10:07 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 10:04 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 10:02 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 10:01 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  Every thread turns into some sort of ECU pissing match, jeez.

The first post was basically trying to start one, so where else would this go?

Well with the defensiveness of ECU fans, there's only one direction apparently.

Was there any point other than to start a fight to take a shot at ECU in a thread that should have nothing to do with ECU? I have no problem with having a pissing match, but let's just be honest about when one is getting started. If ECU fans were derailing a thread we weren't mentioned in then sure we are being "defensive" and making everything about us. OP took a shot at us in the first post so this is a smack thread and will be treated as such.

Responding plays right into a troll's hands.

(07-08-2014 09:48 AM)Mitch Rapp Wrote:  wavefan12 hit the nail on the head. There is a ton of purple and puke in NOLA but many are not bleeders of those colors. They just need a team to root for and love football. If Tulane can give the locals a winning football program that plays an attractive schedule you will see the interests skyrocket. You will have many more people that just love football begin to support Tulane football. They may not become diehards but you will see them be more invested in what is happening Uptown.

As to CliftonAve's comment here

Quote:Rutgers has a few things going for it that Tulane does not:
1) It is the flagship school of their state (they do not have to compete with LSU or even Louisiana-Lafayette like Tulane does).

Ummm NO. We do not compete with ULaLa for anything. They will be put back in their rightful place shortly. Hell, if we had a decent high school offense last year we would have demolished them in the bowl game.

And if your auntie had balls, she'd be your uncle.

Andddd.... back to Tulane. Good job Wave! Way to invest.

(07-08-2014 10:02 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 09:48 AM)Mitch Rapp Wrote:  wavefan12 hit the nail on the head. There is a ton of purple and puke in NOLA but many are not bleeders of those colors. They just need a team to root for and love football. If Tulane can give the locals a winning football program that plays an attractive schedule you will see the interests skyrocket. You will have many more people that just love football begin to support Tulane football. They may not become diehards but you will see them be more invested in what is happening Uptown.

I think that true for a lot of programs that have been down of late. Memphis football actually averaged 40K for a couple of seasons (I think the mid 2000s) before we tanked. Interest is coming back now but there's still a lot of work that needs to be done.

Memphis and Tulane's position in their respective cities are similar, IMO. I don't know what is holding back Memphis FBall. I thought it was facilities but am I wrong in saying that the LB is very close to campus. Do you have an IPF?

With the success of Bball, one would think Memphis has the fans lined up if they can give them a compelling/winning product. If Memphis could get anywhere close to Louisville's FBall success, you would go straight to the top of the B12 wish list, no? It just seems obvious. Though there are rumors that the no "on-campus" FBall stadium is a bit of a deal breaker with the B12.

(07-08-2014 10:13 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 09:48 AM)Mitch Rapp Wrote:  wavefan12 hit the nail on the head. There is a ton of purple and puke in NOLA but many are not bleeders of those colors. They just need a team to root for and love football. If Tulane can give the locals a winning football program that plays an attractive schedule you will see the interests skyrocket. You will have many more people that just love football begin to support Tulane football. They may not become diehards but you will see them be more invested in what is happening Uptown.

As to CliftonAve's comment here

Quote:Rutgers has a few things going for it that Tulane does not:
1) It is the flagship school of their state (they do not have to compete with LSU or even Louisiana-Lafayette like Tulane does).

Ummm NO. We do not compete with ULaLa for anything. They will be put back in their rightful place shortly. Hell, if we had a decent high school offense last year we would have demolished them in the bowl game.

And if your auntie had balls, she'd be your uncle.

ULL has zero impact in the NOLA market, none.

The bowl game QB play was horrific. Montana's INT was the worst throw I have ever seen in a a live FBall game, including high school.

Since we are talking tv markets

CFBs top 25 rated tv markets

(07-08-2014 10:16 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  ULL has zero impact in the NOLA market, none.

Don't feed it

(07-08-2014 10:16 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  ULL has zero impact in the NOLA market, none.

Sure, keep telling yourself that and you'll feel better.

(07-08-2014 10:04 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 10:02 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 10:01 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  Every thread turns into some sort of ECU pissing match, jeez.

The first post was basically trying to start one, so where else would this go?

Well with the defensiveness of Memphis fans, there's only one direction apparently.

(07-08-2014 10:23 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 10:16 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  ULL has zero impact in the NOLA market, none.

Sure, keep telling yourself that and you'll feel better.

I have lived here for 7 years and go to the bars every Sat, literally never seen a ULL game on TV (probably because the Sun Belt is a joke) and can;t remember a ULL shirt, did see a bum in one the other day (on second thought maybe it was a graduate).

Even with the great baseball season, I never heard one person mention ULL, not one. You are absolutely fooling yourself, like most ULL fans. I mean seriously, CUSA took La Tech over you, La Tech!!!!

They should just figure out a way to merge ULL with Texas Tech, then drop a nuclear bomb on the combined campuses.

(07-08-2014 10:29 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 10:23 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 10:16 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  ULL has zero impact in the NOLA market, none.

Sure, keep telling yourself that and you'll feel better.

I have lived here for 7 years and go to the bars every Sat, literally never seen a ULL game on TV (probably because the Sun Belt is a joke) and can;t remember a ULL shirt, did see a bum in one the other day (on second thought maybe it was a graduate).

Even with the great baseball season, I never heard one person mention ULL, not one. You are absolutely fooling yourself, like most ULL fans. I mean seriously, CUSA took La Tech over you, La Tech!!!!

They should just figure out a way to merge ULL with Texas Tech, then drop a nuclear bomb on the combined campuses.

Wow, you really don't like ULL and Texas Tech

Is there bad blood between Tulane and Texas Tech?

(07-08-2014 10:29 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 10:23 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 10:16 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  ULL has zero impact in the NOLA market, none.

Sure, keep telling yourself that and you'll feel better.

I have lived here for 7 years and go to the bars every Sat, literally never seen a ULL game on TV (probably because the Sun Belt is a joke) and can;t remember a ULL shirt, did see a bum in one the other day (on second thought maybe it was a graduate).

Even with the great baseball season, I never heard one person mention ULL, not one. You are absolutely fooling yourself, like most ULL fans. I mean seriously, CUSA took La Tech over you, La Tech!!!!

They should just figure out a way to merge ULL with Texas Tech, then drop a nuclear bomb on the combined campuses.

That's a lot of hostility coming from someone who feels zero impact by the Cajun program. Odd.

(07-08-2014 10:33 AM)Thelonious Jerk Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 10:29 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 10:23 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 10:16 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  ULL has zero impact in the NOLA market, none.

Sure, keep telling yourself that and you'll feel better.

I have lived here for 7 years and go to the bars every Sat, literally never seen a ULL game on TV (probably because the Sun Belt is a joke) and can;t remember a ULL shirt, did see a bum in one the other day (on second thought maybe it was a graduate).

Even with the great baseball season, I never heard one person mention ULL, not one. You are absolutely fooling yourself, like most ULL fans. I mean seriously, CUSA took La Tech over you, La Tech!!!!

They should just figure out a way to merge ULL with Texas Tech, then drop a nuclear bomb on the combined campuses.

Wow, you really don't like ULL and Texas Tech

Is there bad blood between Tulane and Texas Tech?

It was joking. Basically their fans are the absolute worst.

(07-08-2014 09:25 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 08:12 AM)CalallenStang Wrote:  

(07-07-2014 08:52 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Gotta admit, I was angry at the addition of Tulane at first. But truth be told, they deserve just as much an invite as SMU... and with their financial commitment to athletics, one could argue even more so.

I'd love to hear you explain this.

I like the Tulane addition, but SMU is in the #5 DMA while Tulane is in the #51 DMA, SMU has had overall more success in football with a longer financial commitment to athletics than Tulane, and SMU has a greater commitment in men's basketball than Tulane.

Not flaming Tulane at all, because I'm glad they are here. Just stating a few facts.

Though LSU has a clear impact in NOLA, the locals are fiercely loyal to their city and I believe will quickly become TU fans with some sustained success. Being the only D1 Fball program in one of the most fertile recruiting areas matters and the Dallas/Ft Worth market is just so saturated. Nevermind the fact that TCU to the B12 closed a ton of doors for SMU. If we committed to our coaches and facilities like SMU, watch out. NOLA is about the last centerpiece college FBall city without a P5 school. An annual B12 or ACC championship game in the Dome is enticing to fans and the corporate folks.

I don't doubt anything you've said about Tulane. But - the success of SMU attracting the casual Dallas fan in basketball shows that the college sports market isn't completely saturated in DFW either. There are a lot of unaffiliateds and people who went to school on the East and West coast who live in Dallas. Granted, they can go watch TCU, but no one on this side of the Metroplex wants to make that drive regularly - it's a 40 minute drive each way from Downtown Dallas to TCU. For comparison, start from downtown NOLA and that same time gets you halfway to Baton Rouge. So SMU may not bring the entire DFW metro - which I think is your point - but the chunk it does bring is still a very large metro area even compared to the NOLA metro - whose population is only about half that of Dallas County alone.

That being said, I'd put Tulane higher on the list for the Big 12 than SMU solely because the Big 12 doesn't need this market like they need a new market. Of course, I'd have put Houston above TCU for the same reason, so what do I know.

But this topic of conversation isn't about future prospects - it is about what each school brings to the AAC - see Kruciff's post above. The bottom line is that while Tulane brings a lot, SMU brings just a little more - which is why SMU got the invite before Tulane did.

(07-08-2014 10:35 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 10:29 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 10:23 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 10:16 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  ULL has zero impact in the NOLA market, none.

Sure, keep telling yourself that and you'll feel better.

I have lived here for 7 years and go to the bars every Sat, literally never seen a ULL game on TV (probably because the Sun Belt is a joke) and can;t remember a ULL shirt, did see a bum in one the other day (on second thought maybe it was a graduate).

Even with the great baseball season, I never heard one person mention ULL, not one. You are absolutely fooling yourself, like most ULL fans. I mean seriously, CUSA took La Tech over you, La Tech!!!!

They should just figure out a way to merge ULL with Texas Tech, then drop a nuclear bomb on the combined campuses.

That's a lot of hostility coming from someone who feels zero impact by the Cajun program. Odd.

Hey dummy, I said ULL has no impact in NOLA. I in fact am a living person and not a city, I know that concept can get confusing to a Cajun fan.

The hostility is because your fanbase is awful and terribly annoying, not because I feel threatened or care. This basically goes for everyone who deals with you people, though the tail gait food at ULL is top notch. However, for the sake of LA, I do hope you can establish some sort of decent academic reputation and actually get rated by Us News.

(07-08-2014 10:38 AM)CalallenStang Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 09:25 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(07-08-2014 08:12 AM)CalallenStang Wrote:  

(07-07-2014 08:52 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Gotta admit, I was angry at the addition of Tulane at first. But truth be told, they deserve just as much an invite as SMU... and with their financial commitment to athletics, one could argue even more so.

I'd love to hear you explain this.

I like the Tulane addition, but SMU is in the #5 DMA while Tulane is in the #51 DMA, SMU has had overall more success in football with a longer financial commitment to athletics than Tulane, and SMU has a greater commitment in men's basketball than Tulane.

Not flaming Tulane at all, because I'm glad they are here. Just stating a few facts.

Though LSU has a clear impact in NOLA, the locals are fiercely loyal to their city and I believe will quickly become TU fans with some sustained success. Being the only D1 Fball program in one of the most fertile recruiting areas matters and the Dallas/Ft Worth market is just so saturated. Nevermind the fact that TCU to the B12 closed a ton of doors for SMU. If we committed to our coaches and facilities like SMU, watch out. NOLA is about the last centerpiece college FBall city without a P5 school. An annual B12 or ACC championship game in the Dome is enticing to fans and the corporate folks.

I don't doubt anything you've said about Tulane. But - the success of SMU attracting the casual Dallas fan in basketball shows that the college sports market isn't completely saturated in DFW either. There are a lot of unaffiliateds and people who went to school on the East and West coast who live in Dallas. Granted, they can go watch TCU, but no one on this side of the Metroplex wants to make that drive regularly - it's a 40 minute drive each way from Downtown Dallas to TCU. For comparison, start from downtown NOLA and that same time gets you halfway to Baton Rouge. So SMU may not bring the entire DFW metro - which I think is your point - but the chunk it does bring is still a very large metro area even compared to the NOLA metro - whose population is only about half that of Dallas County alone.

That being said, I'd put Tulane higher on the list for the Big 12 than SMU solely because the Big 12 doesn't need this market like they need a new market. Of course, I'd have put Houston above TCU for the same reason, so what do I know.

But this topic of conversation isn't about future prospects - it is about what each school brings to the AAC - see Kruciff's post above. The bottom line is that while Tulane brings a lot, SMU brings just a little more - which is why SMU got the invite before Tulane did.

Good points and because the DFW is so huge, perhaps the FBall numbers for SMU could equal TU (if both were winning) but obviously there are other factors (new recruiting in roads, new market, destination city etc). It would just take a huge amount of success in Bball AND Fball to get their commissioners/presidents attention on SMU. This is not to attack SMU as I am envious of your dedication and hope the best. The only course of action is the ACC at this point and academically SMU fits but I don't think the league will get so far west. Should be interesting, with TCU being down SMU can really make an impact in the market.

(07-08-2014 10:39 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  However, for the sake of LA, I do hope you can establish some sort of decent academic reputation and actually get rated by Us News.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand this is why we were voted to be The Genius wrestler and not something cooler.

Drives me insane when Tulane fans get fed up and then take the talk this direction.

And stop feeding the cajun! You know how they get