(04-15-2014 01:28 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  ECU had been mentioned for many years to join the old BE. Tulane seems to come out of nowhere. If Tulane was not located in New Orleans, do not think they are in the AAC. Sports have been horrendous at Tulane for a decade, so it was not their athletic program that got them the nvite. I like Tulane, they have a great deal of potential. My question is when, when will Tulane use their considerable resources and excellent location to make a real splash in terms of athletics. At this point, they are just another small wealthy school that has not learned to leverage it's assets for athletic success.

Maybe we should spend $100m on a brand new fully paid for football stadium and basketball facility.

(04-15-2014 02:56 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  If there's no regulation, could a conference have a 4 team playoff?

Doubt it.

I think what's going to happen is that leagues will be allowed to a have a championship game (note the singular) regardless of (1) how many teams are in the league, and of (2) type, presence or absence of divisional alignment within the conference.

(04-15-2014 05:40 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 02:56 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  If there's no regulation, could a conference have a 4 team playoff?

Doubt it.

I think what's going to happen is that leagues will be allowed to a have a championship game (note the singular) regardless of (1) how many teams are in the league, and of (2) type, presence or absence of divisional alignment within the conference.

I just cant see the leagues with 12 teams allowing the Big12 to get away with that. They had to expand to have a CG, if that rule doesn't exist they may not have. I think they're deregulate but I think the 12 team minimum will remain.

(04-16-2014 09:00 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  I just cant see the leagues with 12 teams allowing the Big12 to get away with that. They had to expand to have a CG, if that rule doesn't exist they may not have. I think they're deregulate but I think the 12 team minimum will remain.

This time around, most conferences went to 14 teams. Only the PAC12 could have a problem for this reason.

I believe the thinking for going to 14 is with the playoffs in mind. If an ACC conference champ and a BigXII conference champ are viewed nearly even, the tie should go to the champion of the bigger conference.

(04-16-2014 09:00 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 05:40 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 02:56 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  If there's no regulation, could a conference have a 4 team playoff?

Doubt it.

I think what's going to happen is that leagues will be allowed to a have a championship game (note the singular) regardless of (1) how many teams are in the league, and of (2) type, presence or absence of divisional alignment within the conference.

I just cant see the leagues with 12 teams allowing the Big12 to get away with that. They had to expand to have a CG, if that rule doesn't exist they may not have. I think they're deregulate but I think the 12 team minimum will remain.

Well that is what is going on. The XII wouldn't be supporting it if there were a 12 team requirement that went with it. The American and SunBelt also support it for the same reason. PLus, as noted above, Bowlsby has said as much about not having a 12-team requirement. The measure appears headed for quick passage and there are no objections. So why push it?

(04-17-2014 11:15 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

(04-16-2014 09:00 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 05:40 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 02:56 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  If there's no regulation, could a conference have a 4 team playoff?

Doubt it.

I think what's going to happen is that leagues will be allowed to a have a championship game (note the singular) regardless of (1) how many teams are in the league, and of (2) type, presence or absence of divisional alignment within the conference.

I just cant see the leagues with 12 teams allowing the Big12 to get away with that. They had to expand to have a CG, if that rule doesn't exist they may not have. I think they're deregulate but I think the 12 team minimum will remain.

Well that is what is going on. The XII wouldn't be supporting it if there were a 12 team requirement that went with it. The American and SunBelt also support it for the same reason. PLus, as noted above, Bowlsby has said as much about not having a 12-team requirement. The measure appears headed for quick passage and there are no objections. So why push it?

The Big12 was denied their request to host a champ game with less than 12 just a year ago. What has changed that the NCAA would flip flop on that in 12 months?

(04-17-2014 11:19 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 11:15 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

(04-16-2014 09:00 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 05:40 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 02:56 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  If there's no regulation, could a conference have a 4 team playoff?

Doubt it.

I think what's going to happen is that leagues will be allowed to a have a championship game (note the singular) regardless of (1) how many teams are in the league, and of (2) type, presence or absence of divisional alignment within the conference.

I just cant see the leagues with 12 teams allowing the Big12 to get away with that. They had to expand to have a CG, if that rule doesn't exist they may not have. I think they're deregulate but I think the 12 team minimum will remain.

Well that is what is going on. The XII wouldn't be supporting it if there were a 12 team requirement that went with it. The American and SunBelt also support it for the same reason. PLus, as noted above, Bowlsby has said as much about not having a 12-team requirement. The measure appears headed for quick passage and there are no objections. So why push it?

The Big12 was denied their request to host a champ game with less than 12 just a year ago. What has changed that the NCAA would flip flop on that in 12 months?

P5 autonomy demands have changed the paradigm. The NCAA has basically backed off and let the P5 conferences determine how their champions are crowned, including the wish of the Big12 to have a CCG, without the 12 team minimum. The autonomy would also allow larger conferences to determine which conference mates they would have to schedule every year, or at whatever frequency they choose.

(04-17-2014 11:15 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  

(04-16-2014 09:00 AM)FrancisDrake Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 05:40 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 02:56 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  If there's no regulation, could a conference have a 4 team playoff?

Doubt it.

I think what's going to happen is that leagues will be allowed to a have a championship game (note the singular) regardless of (1) how many teams are in the league, and of (2) type, presence or absence of divisional alignment within the conference.

I just cant see the leagues with 12 teams allowing the Big12 to get away with that. They had to expand to have a CG, if that rule doesn't exist they may not have. I think they're deregulate but I think the 12 team minimum will remain.

Well that is what is going on. The XII wouldn't be supporting it if there were a 12 team requirement that went with it. The American and SunBelt also support it for the same reason. PLus, as noted above, Bowlsby has said as much about not having a 12-team requirement. The measure appears headed for quick passage and there are no objections. So why push it?

The American doesn't support it "for the same reason." The American already has arranged to get to 12 members specifically to hold a CCG, so it makes no sense for the American to now support a rule that allows for a CCG without 12 members.

The obvious reason why the American supports the rule is to ensure that further expansion of the "P5" conferences doesn't occur. The most obvious route for expansion was demanding the Big XII actually get to 12 teams and likely swiping one or two AAC teams. If the B12 doesn't have to expand, then the AAC holds onto it's current roster. THAT is the reason the American supports this rule.

Yet another example of how this particular conference doesn't help it's members, especially Cincinnati.

(04-15-2014 05:40 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 02:56 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  If there's no regulation, could a conference have a 4 team playoff?

Doubt it.

I think what's going to happen is that leagues will be allowed to a have a championship game (note the singular) regardless of (1) how many teams are in the league, and of (2) type, presence or absence of divisional alignment within the conference.

I wonder if you could schedule a flex week as part of your schedule for the first round.
So say you had 12 teams. Designate an 8 game conference schedule + 1 week of flex. After the first 8 games, the 9th game is set for all teams in the conference (you could even mandate a week in between be an OOC week). 2 of those games represent the first round of the CC, the other 4 are consolation. The deregulation of choosing teams for the CCG would allow you to pick the winners of those 9th conference games, even if they don't have the best records or are from the same division.
This could really boost a TV contract's value.