Given time ga state may be the biggest program in the sunbelt.

(01-05-2013 03:06 PM)panama Wrote:  Georgia Southern assumes in 15 years they will be in the SEC East. They see no ceiling

Did a rock just get thrown in a glass house, what was that noise?

(01-05-2013 08:51 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(01-05-2013 03:06 PM)panama Wrote:  Georgia Southern assumes in 15 years they will be in the SEC East. They see no ceiling

Did a rock just get thrown in a glass house, what was that noise?

Stop co-signing for GS. No GSU fan has ever said anything as crazy as the Southern ramblings. All you can all me on is saying in 2009 that we would go from start-up to FBS in under 5 years.

Not you personally, although your claims have homer written all over them as everyone's does, but there are GA St. Fans that have said similar things and worse. I've since threads to your main message board linked from here.

You guys sound better when you dont co-sign Georgia Southern. Georgia Southern posts are universally met with an eyeroll on here. And Idoubt there is a more vehement critic of GSU Athletics than I am. Just ask Cheryl.

Here it goes...

Im very proud of what Marshall done in IAA. We had some great teams. We had some great kids that played in our 87, 91 and 92 title runs.

But none of those players would crack our starting line up now. Not even QB Michael Payton (Walter Payton winner) or RB Chris Parker (Walter Payton runner up 3 times, 2nd team SoCon 1 time 1st team SoCon 3 times). No way Payton would beat out Rakeem Cato and would probably not beat backup Blake Frohnapfel. Chris Parker would not beat out Kevin Grooms (Number 19 RB in the nation). Also our TE in 92 was Mike Bartrum who played TE and long snapper in the NFL for 13 seasons would not beat out Gator Hoskins. Although that would probably be the most contested position.

Do IAA programs get great players sometimes, yes. Do they upset IA programs, yes. Do they beat the top of IA or the top of IA conferences, not usually. Most of the wins you can see at any given year at the end of the year you see those wins over usually 1-3 win teams.

GSU Eagles, Im sure he is very proud of GA Southern. But I think GA Southern would struggle at 1st moving up and may have to change the triple option again. I know its GA Southerns identity, but there is a reason only a handful of programs run it in IA. Its not that sucessful in IA. Heck take a look at what Rice done to Air Force just last week in the military bowl.

(01-06-2013 12:51 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  Here it goes...

Im very proud of what Marshall done in IAA. We had some great teams. We had some great kids that played in our 87, 91 and 92 title runs.

But none of those players would crack our starting line up now. Not even QB Michael Payton (Walter Payton winner) or RB Chris Parker (Walter Payton runner up 3 times, 2nd team SoCon 1 time 1st team SoCon 3 times). No way Payton would beat out Rakeem Cato and would probably not beat backup Blake Frohnapfel. Chris Parker would not beat out Kevin Grooms (Number 19 RB in the nation). Also our TE in 92 was Mike Bartrum who played TE and long snapper in the NFL for 13 seasons would not beat out Gator Hoskins. Although that would probably be the most contested position.

Do IAA programs get great players sometimes, yes. Do they upset IA programs, yes. Do they beat the top of IA or the top of IA conferences, not usually. Most of the wins you can see at any given year at the end of the year you see those wins over usually 1-3 win teams.

GSU Eagles, Im sure he is very proud of GA Southern. But I think GA Southern would struggle at 1st moving up and may have to change the triple option again. I know its GA Southerns identity, but there is a reason only a handful of programs run it in IA. Its not that sucessful in IA. Heck take a look at what Rice done to Air Force just last week in the military bowl.

Marshall sure had a lot of success the first two years in FBS, much more than now, which makes one think the team in your final FCS and first FBS seasons are better than now.

As far as rice over Air Force, let's not forget the severe recruiting difficulties they have to work with. The academies will always have a talent shortfall.

Every fanbase has fans that aren't in touch with reality when it comes to their team, but I would enjoy moving to a FBS conference with GSU. They have an excellent football tradition and just fun to hate.

I hope you and peudo GSU are happy together in a conference

(01-06-2013 01:23 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(01-06-2013 12:51 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  Here it goes...

Im very proud of what Marshall done in IAA. We had some great teams. We had some great kids that played in our 87, 91 and 92 title runs.

But none of those players would crack our starting line up now. Not even QB Michael Payton (Walter Payton winner) or RB Chris Parker (Walter Payton runner up 3 times, 2nd team SoCon 1 time 1st team SoCon 3 times). No way Payton would beat out Rakeem Cato and would probably not beat backup Blake Frohnapfel. Chris Parker would not beat out Kevin Grooms (Number 19 RB in the nation). Also our TE in 92 was Mike Bartrum who played TE and long snapper in the NFL for 13 seasons would not beat out Gator Hoskins. Although that would probably be the most contested position.

Do IAA programs get great players sometimes, yes. Do they upset IA programs, yes. Do they beat the top of IA or the top of IA conferences, not usually. Most of the wins you can see at any given year at the end of the year you see those wins over usually 1-3 win teams.

GSU Eagles, Im sure he is very proud of GA Southern. But I think GA Southern would struggle at 1st moving up and may have to change the triple option again. I know its GA Southerns identity, but there is a reason only a handful of programs run it in IA. Its not that sucessful in IA. Heck take a look at what Rice done to Air Force just last week in the military bowl.

Marshall sure had a lot of success the first two years in FBS, much more than now, which makes one think the team in your final FCS and first FBS seasons are better than now.

As far as rice over Air Force, let's not forget the severe recruiting difficulties they have to work with. The academies will always have a talent shortfall.

The idea that their final FCS team years ago would be better than their full FBS CUSA team is just beyond delusional. I say delusional because I am giving you credit for being a better fan and evaluator of football talent than to make that comment out of football ignorance. The top FCS programs will never get the same level of player of even the SBC or CUSA year in and out. Simply is not going to happen.

The teams Marshall had the first three years in 1-A were very good, they outscored opponents by 200 points each season. One could argue those were the best days of Marshall.

I know you think becoming an FBS program is an automatic fix or betterment of a program, but it's a little more complicated than that.

(01-06-2013 02:15 PM)panama Wrote:  I hope you and peudo GSU are happy together in a conference

Thanks that means a lot.

(01-06-2013 02:40 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  The teams Marshall had the first three years in 1-A were very good, they outscored opponents by 200 points each season. One could argue those were the best days of Marshall.

I know you think becoming an FBS program is an automatic fix or betterment of a program, but it's a little more complicated than that.

Apples to Oranges. Those teams were better in FCS. Comparing Apples to Apples is to compare Marshall's first couple of FBS teams to their team in FBS now. You simply are not going to get the same caliber of player in FCS that you get in FBS. As soon as you announce FBS and start recruiting for FBS the caliber of recruit goes up immediately because you're offering FBS as an inducement. Better players is why the SBC was able to do what it did against the SEC and ACC this year. Better players is why UAB was able to take Tennessee to OT and Mississippi State down to the last minute in 2010. We're seeing that difference as we speak as this new staff tackles recruiting for the SBC. All of a sudden youre in front of 3 stars and 4 stars and there is no FCS school that is on front of 3 stars and 4 stars.

Please stop!

(01-06-2013 02:20 PM)panama Wrote:  

(01-06-2013 01:23 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(01-06-2013 12:51 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  Here it goes...

Im very proud of what Marshall done in IAA. We had some great teams. We had some great kids that played in our 87, 91 and 92 title runs.

But none of those players would crack our starting line up now. Not even QB Michael Payton (Walter Payton winner) or RB Chris Parker (Walter Payton runner up 3 times, 2nd team SoCon 1 time 1st team SoCon 3 times). No way Payton would beat out Rakeem Cato and would probably not beat backup Blake Frohnapfel. Chris Parker would not beat out Kevin Grooms (Number 19 RB in the nation). Also our TE in 92 was Mike Bartrum who played TE and long snapper in the NFL for 13 seasons would not beat out Gator Hoskins. Although that would probably be the most contested position.

Do IAA programs get great players sometimes, yes. Do they upset IA programs, yes. Do they beat the top of IA or the top of IA conferences, not usually. Most of the wins you can see at any given year at the end of the year you see those wins over usually 1-3 win teams.

GSU Eagles, Im sure he is very proud of GA Southern. But I think GA Southern would struggle at 1st moving up and may have to change the triple option again. I know its GA Southerns identity, but there is a reason only a handful of programs run it in IA. Its not that sucessful in IA. Heck take a look at what Rice done to Air Force just last week in the military bowl.

Marshall sure had a lot of success the first two years in FBS, much more than now, which makes one think the team in your final FCS and first FBS seasons are better than now.

As far as rice over Air Force, let's not forget the severe recruiting difficulties they have to work with. The academies will always have a talent shortfall.

The idea that their final FCS team years ago would be better than their full FBS CUSA team is just beyond delusional. I say delusional because I am giving you credit for being a better fan and evaluator of football talent than to make that comment out of football ignorance. The top FCS programs will never get the same level of player of even the SBC or CUSA year in and out. Simply is not going to happen.

You are right Panama. Marshall is much more talented today than the 1996 FCS team that went 15-0 and blew everyone out. I am sure Randy Moss wouldn't even crack the starting lineup on today's team.

(01-06-2013 03:18 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(01-06-2013 02:20 PM)panama Wrote:  

(01-06-2013 01:23 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(01-06-2013 12:51 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  Here it goes...

Im very proud of what Marshall done in IAA. We had some great teams. We had some great kids that played in our 87, 91 and 92 title runs.

But none of those players would crack our starting line up now. Not even QB Michael Payton (Walter Payton winner) or RB Chris Parker (Walter Payton runner up 3 times, 2nd team SoCon 1 time 1st team SoCon 3 times). No way Payton would beat out Rakeem Cato and would probably not beat backup Blake Frohnapfel. Chris Parker would not beat out Kevin Grooms (Number 19 RB in the nation). Also our TE in 92 was Mike Bartrum who played TE and long snapper in the NFL for 13 seasons would not beat out Gator Hoskins. Although that would probably be the most contested position.

Do IAA programs get great players sometimes, yes. Do they upset IA programs, yes. Do they beat the top of IA or the top of IA conferences, not usually. Most of the wins you can see at any given year at the end of the year you see those wins over usually 1-3 win teams.

GSU Eagles, Im sure he is very proud of GA Southern. But I think GA Southern would struggle at 1st moving up and may have to change the triple option again. I know its GA Southerns identity, but there is a reason only a handful of programs run it in IA. Its not that sucessful in IA. Heck take a look at what Rice done to Air Force just last week in the military bowl.

Marshall sure had a lot of success the first two years in FBS, much more than now, which makes one think the team in your final FCS and first FBS seasons are better than now.

As far as rice over Air Force, let's not forget the severe recruiting difficulties they have to work with. The academies will always have a talent shortfall.

The idea that their final FCS team years ago would be better than their full FBS CUSA team is just beyond delusional. I say delusional because I am giving you credit for being a better fan and evaluator of football talent than to make that comment out of football ignorance. The top FCS programs will never get the same level of player of even the SBC or CUSA year in and out. Simply is not going to happen.

You are right Panama. Marshall is much more talented today than the 1996 FCS team that went 15-0 and blew everyone out. I am sure Randy Moss wouldn't even crack the starting lineup on today's team.

Wow man, so Randy Moss means that team was better than FBS teams.

Got it.

(01-06-2013 03:11 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  Please stop!

I am man. I am done, Where is the exit door on this conference, Because eventually someone is going to invite these guys.

(01-06-2013 03:24 PM)panama Wrote:  

(01-06-2013 03:18 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(01-06-2013 02:20 PM)panama Wrote:  

(01-06-2013 01:23 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(01-06-2013 12:51 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  Here it goes...

Im very proud of what Marshall done in IAA. We had some great teams. We had some great kids that played in our 87, 91 and 92 title runs.

But none of those players would crack our starting line up now. Not even QB Michael Payton (Walter Payton winner) or RB Chris Parker (Walter Payton runner up 3 times, 2nd team SoCon 1 time 1st team SoCon 3 times). No way Payton would beat out Rakeem Cato and would probably not beat backup Blake Frohnapfel. Chris Parker would not beat out Kevin Grooms (Number 19 RB in the nation). Also our TE in 92 was Mike Bartrum who played TE and long snapper in the NFL for 13 seasons would not beat out Gator Hoskins. Although that would probably be the most contested position.

Do IAA programs get great players sometimes, yes. Do they upset IA programs, yes. Do they beat the top of IA or the top of IA conferences, not usually. Most of the wins you can see at any given year at the end of the year you see those wins over usually 1-3 win teams.

GSU Eagles, Im sure he is very proud of GA Southern. But I think GA Southern would struggle at 1st moving up and may have to change the triple option again. I know its GA Southerns identity, but there is a reason only a handful of programs run it in IA. Its not that sucessful in IA. Heck take a look at what Rice done to Air Force just last week in the military bowl.

Marshall sure had a lot of success the first two years in FBS, much more than now, which makes one think the team in your final FCS and first FBS seasons are better than now.

As far as rice over Air Force, let's not forget the severe recruiting difficulties they have to work with. The academies will always have a talent shortfall.

The idea that their final FCS team years ago would be better than their full FBS CUSA team is just beyond delusional. I say delusional because I am giving you credit for being a better fan and evaluator of football talent than to make that comment out of football ignorance. The top FCS programs will never get the same level of player of even the SBC or CUSA year in and out. Simply is not going to happen.

You are right Panama. Marshall is much more talented today than the 1996 FCS team that went 15-0 and blew everyone out. I am sure Randy Moss wouldn't even crack the starting lineup on today's team.

Wow man, so Randy Moss means that team was better than FBS teams.

Got it.

http://www.oocities.org/marshallfan99/sag96fteam.html

(01-06-2013 03:36 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  http://www.oocities.org/marshallfan99/sag96fteam.html

Haha...Sagarin

:lock:

Time to lock this thread up. We're not getting anywhere.