(01-03-2013 01:49 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Yes, I'm aware, I was stating I personally agree with that system by referencing swim and dive, but the existing system, like any other suggested change to the system, has its flaws.

So you're saying MT's claim to greatness is based on a flawed system? I know the fact WKU has won almost double the number of team championships in the last 12 years isn't flawed.

Just messing with ya buddy. No offense...just friendly banter.

Btw, since Denver is gone, I think there are now only 2 men's swimming/diving teams and 5 womens swimming/diving teams in the league. Odd.

(01-03-2013 01:57 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(01-03-2013 01:49 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Yes, I'm aware, I was stating I personally agree with that system by referencing swim and dive, but the existing system, like any other suggested change to the system, has its flaws.

So you're saying MT's claim to greatness is based on a flawed system? I know the fact WKU has won almost double the number of team championships in the last 12 years isn't flawed.

Just messing with ya buddy. No offense...just friendly banter.

Btw, since Denver is gone, I think there are now only 2 men's swimming/diving teams and 5 womens swimming/diving teams in the league. Odd.

have any of those swimming/diving teams produced gold medal olympians lately?

In the interest of fairness, Denver had the best overall athletic program in the belt, they just didn't sponsor enough Sun Belt sports for them to prove it in the Buba's cup.

(01-03-2013 02:18 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  In the interest of fairness, Denver had the best overall athletic program in the belt, they just didn't sponsor enough Sun Belt sports for them to prove it in the Buba's cup.

You are absolutely correct there. Denver had a great sports program in most sports...even those that played in the Sun Belt and those that weren't (skiing for example).

Denver also had one of the largest athletic budgets and weren't funneling a disproportionate amount of that budget into football like most of us. I'm in no way saying that I wish we were a non-football school, but in a lot schools cases, funding football causes other sports to suffer.

(01-03-2013 02:52 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Denver also had one of the largest athletic budgets and weren't funneling a disproportionate amount of that budget into football like most of us. I'm in no way saying that I wish we were a non-football school, but in a lot schools cases, funding football causes other sports to suffer.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't a large part of that due to the fact that Denver is a private school vs being a public one (scholarship cost were much higher due to private school tuition)?

Regardless, they tore it up in skiing.

(01-03-2013 02:13 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(01-03-2013 01:57 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(01-03-2013 01:49 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Yes, I'm aware, I was stating I personally agree with that system by referencing swim and dive, but the existing system, like any other suggested change to the system, has its flaws.

So you're saying MT's claim to greatness is based on a flawed system? I know the fact WKU has won almost double the number of team championships in the last 12 years isn't flawed.

Just messing with ya buddy. No offense...just friendly banter.

Btw, since Denver is gone, I think there are now only 2 men's swimming/diving teams and 5 womens swimming/diving teams in the league. Odd.

have any of those swimming/diving teams produced gold medal olympians lately?

Go Tops!

(01-01-2013 02:40 PM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  If CUSA does lose teams (USM, Marshall etc.) to the Big East, CUSA would be crazy to expand to 12 programs. Also, its not a lock that they will come after SBC programs. The only SBC program I truly see being taken is Ga. State, for the market. Other than that, I see CUSA going after JMU and Delaware.

Believe they would expand back to 12 at least.

(01-03-2013 02:52 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Denver also had one of the largest athletic budgets and weren't funneling a disproportionate amount of that budget into football like most of us. I'm in no way saying that I wish we were a non-football school, but in a lot schools cases, funding football causes other sports to suffer.

They spend their disproportionate amount of money on hockey.

(01-03-2013 04:09 PM)Journeyman22 Wrote:  

(01-03-2013 02:52 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Denver also had one of the largest athletic budgets and weren't funneling a disproportionate amount of that budget into football like most of us. I'm in no way saying that I wish we were a non-football school, but in a lot schools cases, funding football causes other sports to suffer.

They spend their disproportionate amount of money on hockey.

Man, I wish that was a big sport in our region.

Hockey is the greatest sport on Earth. Opinion of course.

The NHL lockout has me going through withdrawal.

(01-03-2013 11:22 AM)Eagles Cliff Wrote:  How did Georgia Southern start a program from scratch in the 1980's and pass MTSU on the field in less than 5 years?

You outrecruited us in 1981? Good job.

Again, you're on an SBC board begging for an invite while we're off to CUSA. And all of a sudden MT is supposed to be worried about you outrecruiting us?

Please forgive me if I don't take you seriously at the moment.

(01-03-2013 04:12 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  Man, I wish that was a big sport in our region.

Hockey is the greatest sport on Earth. Opinion of course.

The NHL lockout has me going through withdrawal.

You and me both. It's going to get worse now that football is ending. I think they'll have a deal by the 11th though.

I know MT had a pretty successful club hockey team when I was there, but I don't know what they've been doing since.

(01-03-2013 04:12 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(01-03-2013 04:09 PM)Journeyman22 Wrote:  

(01-03-2013 02:52 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Denver also had one of the largest athletic budgets and weren't funneling a disproportionate amount of that budget into football like most of us. I'm in no way saying that I wish we were a non-football school, but in a lot schools cases, funding football causes other sports to suffer.

They spend their disproportionate amount of money on hockey.

Man, I wish that was a big sport in our region.

Hockey is the greatest sport on Earth. Opinion of course. ..."

A-friggin'-MEN, bruh! Having grown up in Alaska, I can tell you I miss D-I hockey terribly... it's the "college football" of the South... huge arenas filled to capacity, scalpers charging MORE than face value for tickets, rivalries that trivialize the Alabama-Auburn thang (fans of Alaska & Alaska-Anchorage - oftentimes voted the NUMBER ONE rivalry in all of sports, BTW - and other rivalries have actually been known to feloniously ASSAULT each each other after games)...

Yup... D-I hockey -- the best level of the best sport EVER!

(01-03-2013 01:09 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(01-03-2013 11:22 AM)Eagles Cliff Wrote:  

(01-03-2013 09:24 AM)RaiderDoug Wrote:  How about you actually get in the conference first before you state how easily you'll be able to outrecruit CUSA teams.

Georgia Southern is not Georgia State. We don't have to be FBS to out recruit MTSU. How did Georgia Southern start a program from scratch in the 1980's and pass MTSU on the field in less than 5 years?

The following are listed on the 2012 MTSU Depth Chart:

61 Jadareius Hamlin OL Forsyth, GA 150 miles to S'Boro
70 Roberto Loya OL Douglas, GA 105 miles to S'Boro
90 Jimmy Staten DL Waycross, GA 99 miles to S'Boro
52 Ykeem Wells LB Buena Vista, GA 184 miles to S'boro

That doesn't count the 20 or so other players in our backyard that will have an in-state FBS option on a beautiful campus full of pretty girls in a college town and a packed stadium on Saturdays.

Well I guess we might as well go ahead and stop recruiting Georgia...

Let's see...

Arthur Williams-Seale, AL 72 miles from Troy, 145 miles from UAB, 250 miles from USA, 340 miles from MT

Herbert King- Miami, FL same city as FIU, 48 miles from FAU, 238 miles from UCF, 884 miles from MT

Khari Burke- Plantation, FL 23 miles from FAU, 32 miles from FIU, 210 miles from UCF, 855 miles from MT

Austin Grammar- Tuscaloosa, AL 58 miles from UAB, 150 miles from Troy, 183 miles from Southern Miss, 226 miles from USA, 250 miles from MT

Shaun White- Pensacola, FL 58 miles from USA, 146 miles from Troy 160 miles from Southern Miss, 253 miles from UAB, 313 miles from Louisiana, 445 miles from MT


Do I need to go on? We'll get ours. You worry about getting invited to FBS first and then worry about keeping your cute little stadium filled when you're no longer winning double digit games on a regular basis.

Southern hubris is laughable. I actually hope they make that FBS jump so that they will get a dose of humble pie. Being a big fish in a puddle isnt the same as being a guppy in the Pacific Ocean.

(01-04-2013 10:49 AM)panama Wrote:  Southern hubris is laughable. I actually hope they make that FBS jump so that they will get a dose of humble pie. Being a big fish in a puddle isnt the same as being a guppy in the Pacific Ocean.

Your ignorance is pardoned for not being associated with a school that has a good history in anything related to athletics. There are several Top-tier FCS schools that could do well in Go5 Conferences.

Georgia Southern may well get a slice of humble pie, but our football program has always been told by "smart" people that we can't or won't succeed. An interim coach and a doofus named Brian Van Gorder are responsible for our only two losing seasons.

When Ark St., WKU, MTSU, ULM, Troy, and Texas St. had the same number of scholarships Ga Southern did just fine competing against them. Why should we think we won't do fine in FBS against the Go5?

I look forward to the opportunity to prove ourselves from the bottom up and earn respect on the field. You see, when your school doesn't share downtown Atlanta with crackheads and homeless people, you actually have to prove your worth to a conference just like you have to fight and scrap for every dollar you get from the USG.

There are many advantages to being UGA Night School, but having a beautiful campus with great Athletic tradition and loyal alumni aren't among them. Will it be as early as 2014 when da dome echos with the chant of GEORGIA - SOUTHERN and WHOSE HOUSE - OUR HOUSE?

I have a lot of respect for every member of the SBC and how they've grown their programs because I know how hard it is to fight for market share against Big State U. I look forward to developing a good rivalry with Ga State, but don't disrespect my school when we've had to work 100x harder to accomplish 1000x more.

Yes and yet there you sit. Even Georgia Regents University is snickering at you. You guys dont even hear how pompous you sound and how ungrounded in reality you are.Oh yes we are a nigh school,and a day school and a national research university and a few other things. Dont think that you are slighting us. Most of us see no shame in working and going to school at the same time. But hey enpugh about me.

Playoffs are over.

Its a new year.

So...

Where's that invite again?

(01-04-2013 01:39 PM)panama Wrote:  Yes and yet there you sit. Even Georgia Regents University is snickering at you. You guys dont even hear how pompous you sound and how ungrounded in reality you are.Oh yes we are a nigh school,and a day school and a national research university and a few other things. Dont think that you are slighting us. Most of us see no shame in working and going to school at the same time. But hey enpugh about me.

I'll give you 100:1 that it's coming and another 100:1 that Ga State won't have a winning football season until at least 2017 and another 100:1 that Ga state will never be better than UAB-Atlanta

When is the SB going to send out invites, next week? Cannot think of any school that would join the Belt that are out there except for some FCS schools and NMSU and maybe Idaho. Maybe those schools don't want in.

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(01-04-2013 02:54 PM)KingKong Wrote:  When is the SB going to send out invites, next week? Cannot think of any school that would join the Belt that are out there except for some FCS schools and NMSU and maybe Idaho. Maybe those schools don't want in.

Those schools may be waiting to see how it all shakes out much like the conference leaders are now.

Before if the Sun Belt was "stable" with the current 10 + GSU App would have joined (80% confidence). Now if offered they may be hesitant to join as CUSA may poach 2-4 members depending what happens. That could either be a great or terrible thing depending on which members and their replacements.

We went from 2 variables in early December to 12 now, timing really is everything.