(04-21-2024 11:25 AM)maximus Wrote:  Buy land, gold, guns, and ammo.

If you aren't, you're gonna wish you did.



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The only useful thing you listed is ammunition.

(04-21-2024 11:25 AM)maximus Wrote:  Buy land, gold, guns, and ammo.

If you aren't, you're gonna wish you did.

(04-21-2024 11:29 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(04-21-2024 11:25 AM)maximus Wrote:  Buy land, gold, guns, and ammo.

If you aren't, you're gonna wish you did.

The only useful thing you listed is ammunition.

Gold is quite optional if you have enough ammo. If the worst case happens, people will be more than happy to trade almost anything for it.

Mike Johnson’s Spending Bill Includes $300 Million For Border Patrol In Ukraine, None For America

Quote:Included in the spending bill backed by Speaker of the House Mike Johnson was a line item for hundreds of millions of dollars to support Ukrainian border patrol agents, yet none was provided for border patrol in America or other new, border defense initiatives of the sort Speaker Johnson promised that he would demand before passing Ukraine aid.

Specifically, in December of 2023, Speaker Johnson pledged, “I made this very clear. Again from the very beginning when I was handed the gavel, we needed clarity on what we’re doing in Ukraine, and how we’ll have proper oversight of the spending of precious taxpayer dollars and American citizens.”

At the time, Speaker Johnson also said, “And we needed a transformative change at the border. Thus far, we’ve gotten neither. The Senate has been MIA on this. The House passed H.R. 2, six months ago, more than six months ago. It’s been sitting and collecting dust on Chuck Schumer’s desk. I have told him personally, I’ve told the National Security Adviser, the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense, that these are our conditions because these are the conditions of the American people. And we are resolute on that. It is not the House’s issue right now. The issue is with the White House and the Senate, and I implore them to do their job because the time is urgent. And we do want to do the right thing here with that,”

Yet that promise was left by the wayside with Speaker Johnson’s spending bill, one that was passed on Friday, April 19. In the bill, which was passed by 151 House Republicans and 165 House Democrats, $95 billion was appropriated for foreign countries. Included in that was a whopping $61 billion for Ukraine and its war effort.

Included in Ukraine’s grab bag of aid is $300 million for Ukrainian border patrol. Specifically, the spending package provides, “For an additional amount for ‘‘International Narcotics Control and Law Enforcement’’, $300,000,000, to remain available until September 30, 2025, for assistance for Ukraine and countries impacted by the situation in Ukraine: Provided, That such funds may be made available to support the State Border Guard Service of Ukraine and National Police of Ukraine, including units supporting or under the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: Provided further, That such amount is designated by the Congress as being for an emergency requirement pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(i) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.” Ukraine’s State Border Guard Service is its equivalent of America’s Border Patrol.

Posting about Speaker Johnson on X (formerly Twitter), Rep. Thomas Massie said, “I just told Mike Johnson in conference that I’m cosponsoring the Motion to Vacate that was introduced by @RepMTG. He should pre-announce his resignation (as Boehner did), so we can pick a new Speaker without ever being without a GOP Speaker.”

Speaker Johnson, for his part, insisted that he would not be resigning, saying, “I am not resigning. And it is, in my view, an absurd notion that someone would bring a vacate motion.” He continued, “We’re simply here trying to do our job.”

They don't give a chit about us or this country. They're simply up there getting as rich as possible.

(04-21-2024 08:46 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  It will be interesting to see what history is written about our moment in time. Will we help stop a tyrants aggression? Will Europe see another devastating war? Will Americans once again die on European soil? Will there be a nuclear exchange? Will aid to Ukraine actually be the straw that breaks America’s financial back? Will our actions now dictate China’s future military aggression?
Only time will tell what the results of decisions being made now will bring.

Frankly, I think history will eventually see it as nothing more than the reverse mirror image of Vietnam. This time its the Russians who are sending their young men to die in some difficult to explain foreign war (we Ruskies jsut gotta stop those gay demon nazis) and its the US that is simply sitting on the sidelines sending weapons and material to the Russian opponent. Basically, the US is mostly sending old antiquated equipment and ammo that is aging out and about to require replacement. So, rather than it being disposed of, we are sending it to Ukraine and letting them use it to blow up front line Russian equipment while we refresh our stores with newer more modern equipment and ammo. Every Russian tank and weapons system destroyed in Ukraine is a Russian tank and weapon system that we will never have to face in Europe---not to mention its equipment that the Russians cant use to make mischief elsewhere (like Africa or in the Middle East).

The Ukrainians have begun hitting Russian refineries. In response, the Russian began hitting Ukrainian power plants (which has been a bit more effective now that Ukraine is starting to run low on defensive SAM missiles). In what may be an interesting view of the future, yesterday---Ukraine returned the favor and began hitting Russian power plants. The Ukrainians already have drones capable of carrying a 400 pound war head over 1500 kilometers into Russia. Jet versions of these drones are now entering production that will be much more difficult to intercept---basically becoming cheap small cruise missiles. Within a few months, a domestically produced new long range version of the Neptune cruise missile with a 1000 pound war head and a 1000 kilometer range will start chilling out in the Russian skies. I just dont see this war lasting much longer once the Russian infrastructure starts taking the same kind of beating that the Ukrainian infrastructure has been absorbing.

(04-21-2024 04:10 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

Bingo.

/thread.

(04-21-2024 04:43 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

^
^even on this board. Its so frustrating to be so far ahead of everyine else.


Im patient slavitards

(04-21-2024 03:13 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-21-2024 08:46 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  It will be interesting to see what history is written about our moment in time. Will we help stop a tyrants aggression? Will Europe see another devastating war? Will Americans once again die on European soil? Will there be a nuclear exchange? Will aid to Ukraine actually be the straw that breaks America’s financial back? Will our actions now dictate China’s future military aggression?
Only time will tell what the results of decisions being made now will bring.

Frankly, I think history will eventually see it as nothing more than the reverse mirror image of Vietnam. This time its the Russians who are sending their young men to die in some difficult to explain foreign war (we Ruskies jsut gotta stop those gay demon nazis) and its the US that is simply sitting on the sidelines sending weapons and material to the Russian opponent. Basically, the US is mostly sending old antiquated equipment and ammo that is aging out and about to require replacement. So, rather than it being disposed of, we are sending it to Ukraine and letting them use it to blow up front line Russian equipment while we refresh our stores with newer more modern equipment and ammo. Every Russian tank and weapons system destroyed in Ukraine is a Russian tank and weapon system that we will never have to face in Europe---not to mention its equipment that the Russians cant use to make mischief elsewhere (like Africa or in the Middle East).

The Ukrainians have begun hitting Russian refineries. In response, the Russian began hitting Ukrainian power plants (which has been a bit more effective now that Ukraine is starting to run low on defensive SAM missiles). In what may be an interesting view of the future, yesterday---Ukraine returned the favor and began hitting Russian power plants. The Ukrainians already have drones capable of carrying a 400 pound war head over 1500 kilometers into Russia. Jet versions of these drones are now entering production that will be much more difficult to intercept---basically becoming cheap small cruise missiles. Within a few months, a domestically produced new long range version of the Neptune cruise missile with a 1000 pound war head and a 1000 kilometer range will start chilling out in the Russian skies. I just dont see this war lasting much longer once the Russian infrastructure starts taking the same kind of beating that the Ukrainian infrastructure has been absorbing.

So what

(04-21-2024 11:29 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(04-21-2024 11:25 AM)maximus Wrote:  Buy land, gold, guns, and ammo.

If you aren't, you're gonna wish you did.



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The only useful thing you listed is ammunition.

You'll find out one day

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(04-21-2024 03:13 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-21-2024 08:46 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  It will be interesting to see what history is written about our moment in time. Will we help stop a tyrants aggression? Will Europe see another devastating war? Will Americans once again die on European soil? Will there be a nuclear exchange? Will aid to Ukraine actually be the straw that breaks America’s financial back? Will our actions now dictate China’s future military aggression?
Only time will tell what the results of decisions being made now will bring.

Frankly, I think history will eventually see it as nothing more than the reverse mirror image of Vietnam. This time its the Russians who are sending their young men to die in some difficult to explain foreign war (we Ruskies jsut gotta stop those gay demon nazis) and its the US that is simply sitting on the sidelines sending weapons and material to the Russian opponent. Basically, the US is mostly sending old antiquated equipment and ammo that is aging out and about to require replacement. So, rather than it being disposed of, we are sending it to Ukraine and letting them use it to blow up front line Russian equipment while we refresh our stores with newer more modern equipment and ammo. Every Russian tank and weapons system destroyed in Ukraine is a Russian tank and weapon system that we will never have to face in Europe---not to mention its equipment that the Russians cant use to make mischief elsewhere (like Africa or in the Middle East).

The Ukrainians have begun hitting Russian refineries. In response, the Russian began hitting Ukrainian power plants (which has been a bit more effective now that Ukraine is starting to run low on defensive SAM missiles). In what may be an interesting view of the future, yesterday---Ukraine returned the favor and began hitting Russian power plants. The Ukrainians already have drones capable of carrying a 400 pound war head over 1500 kilometers into Russia. Jet versions of these drones are now entering production that will be much more difficult to intercept---basically becoming cheap small cruise missiles. Within a few months, a domestically produced new long range version of the Neptune cruise missile with a 1000 pound war head and a 1000 kilometer range will start chilling out in the Russian skies. I just dont see this war lasting much longer once the Russian infrastructure starts taking the same kind of beating that the Ukrainian infrastructure has been absorbing.

I'm not sure who the idiot Republican was on ABC today. But the announcer was saying the Republicans so want the Russians to win they won't fund Ukraine. He didn't correct him at all, just went into why it was good to vote for it.

I don't watch these shows, but my wife often has them on.

I think its very short-sighted and dangerous to let the Russians have their way in Ukraine, but other than Shere Khan and Todor and Tucker, I don't think any of you oppose it because you "want" Russia to win.

(04-21-2024 10:40 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-21-2024 03:13 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-21-2024 08:46 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  It will be interesting to see what history is written about our moment in time. Will we help stop a tyrants aggression? Will Europe see another devastating war? Will Americans once again die on European soil? Will there be a nuclear exchange? Will aid to Ukraine actually be the straw that breaks America’s financial back? Will our actions now dictate China’s future military aggression?
Only time will tell what the results of decisions being made now will bring.

Frankly, I think history will eventually see it as nothing more than the reverse mirror image of Vietnam. This time its the Russians who are sending their young men to die in some difficult to explain foreign war (we Ruskies jsut gotta stop those gay demon nazis) and its the US that is simply sitting on the sidelines sending weapons and material to the Russian opponent. Basically, the US is mostly sending old antiquated equipment and ammo that is aging out and about to require replacement. So, rather than it being disposed of, we are sending it to Ukraine and letting them use it to blow up front line Russian equipment while we refresh our stores with newer more modern equipment and ammo. Every Russian tank and weapons system destroyed in Ukraine is a Russian tank and weapon system that we will never have to face in Europe---not to mention its equipment that the Russians cant use to make mischief elsewhere (like Africa or in the Middle East).

The Ukrainians have begun hitting Russian refineries. In response, the Russian began hitting Ukrainian power plants (which has been a bit more effective now that Ukraine is starting to run low on defensive SAM missiles). In what may be an interesting view of the future, yesterday---Ukraine returned the favor and began hitting Russian power plants. The Ukrainians already have drones capable of carrying a 400 pound war head over 1500 kilometers into Russia. Jet versions of these drones are now entering production that will be much more difficult to intercept---basically becoming cheap small cruise missiles. Within a few months, a domestically produced new long range version of the Neptune cruise missile with a 1000 pound war head and a 1000 kilometer range will start chilling out in the Russian skies. I just dont see this war lasting much longer once the Russian infrastructure starts taking the same kind of beating that the Ukrainian infrastructure has been absorbing.

I'm not sure who the idiot Republican was on ABC today. But the announcer was saying the Republicans so want the Russians to win they won't fund Ukraine. He didn't correct him at all, just went into why it was good to vote for it.

I don't watch these shows, but my wife often has them on.

I think its very short-sighted and dangerous to let the Russians have their way in Ukraine, but other than Shere Khan and Todor and Tucker, I don't think any of you oppose it because you "want" Russia to win.

There has always been a pretty solid group of folks in the US that preferred isolationism. We kinda unintentionally became a super-power after WWII and found that a firm hand internationally enforcing the American Rules Based Order seemed to keep the World Wars to a minimum. Being the worlds reserve currency was a nice reward for being the worlds police force---but the reality is we didnt need to be the world reserve currency. In fact, I'd say the world needed us way more than we needed them at that time.

We could really have probably walked away from our role as the enforcement mechanism of the American Rules Based Order as recently as George HW Bush years----certainly we could have done it prior to 1971 before getting off the gold standard. But our recent credit card spending spree has positioned us where we pretty much need to be the worlds reserve currency as much as the world needs us to enforce some level of order. I think we are wed to this system at this point---at least until we get handle on our debt. If we get the debt under control---then we can again think about walking away from the rest of the world and not worry about the negative financial implications of no longer being the worlds reserve currency. Until then---we are probably stuck in this role.