How does Macon look?????

(04-02-2024 04:39 PM)NIU1981 Wrote:  Hampton has shown a propensity to throw it to the other team. He had a chance to win the job last year when they benched Rocky and couldn't stop turning it over. I think coach is just referring to that. Hampton will probably start if he can protect the football.

Exactly how I was taking it too. A little cleaner, and coach speak-y, than to say “hey Hampton - stop throwing dumb ******* picks “

The team needs to pass to run. We have nice players on the outside who can help stretch the defense and give brown lanes. Barnes up a seam - Rudolph on a number of routes and crossers, and the new kid from APB has wiggle. He was a nice return man too. There are weapons. Don’t pass it to the other team and we’ll be fine. But…you still have to throw downfield to make the whole thing work.

(04-02-2024 08:23 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(04-02-2024 04:39 PM)NIU1981 Wrote:  Hampton has shown a propensity to throw it to the other team. He had a chance to win the job last year when they benched Rocky and couldn't stop turning it over. I think coach is just referring to that. Hampton will probably start if he can protect the football.

Exactly how I was taking it too. A little cleaner, and coach speak-y, than to say “hey Hampton - stop throwing dumb ******* picks “

The team needs to pass to run. We have nice players on the outside who can help stretch the defense and give brown lanes. Barnes up a seam - Rudolph on a number of routes and crossers, and the new kid from APB has wiggle. He was a nice return man too. There are weapons. Don’t pass it to the other team and we’ll be fine. But…you still have to throw downfield to make the whole thing work.

Yep, pretty much sums it up.

https://x.com/ddceddiecarifio/status/177...aiWqpvQq1Q

Good thread on today’s practice. Sounds like the QB competition is mostly Hampton and Macon right now.

(04-04-2024 10:02 AM)7 Wrote:  https://x.com/ddceddiecarifio/status/177...aiWqpvQq1Q

Good thread on today’s practice. Sounds like the QB competition is mostly Hampton and Macon right now.

I don’t have a horse in the race - nice to see whomever it is will be there for more than a season.

(04-04-2024 10:02 AM)7 Wrote:  https://x.com/ddceddiecarifio/status/177...aiWqpvQq1Q

Good thread on today’s practice. Sounds like the QB competition is mostly Hampton and Macon right now.

I'm sensing a long season. On the bright side the transfer portal re-opens on 4/16.

(04-04-2024 11:37 AM)mustangfootball2004 Wrote:  

(04-04-2024 10:02 AM)7 Wrote:  https://x.com/ddceddiecarifio/status/177...aiWqpvQq1Q

Good thread on today’s practice. Sounds like the QB competition is mostly Hampton and Macon right now.

I'm sensing a long season. On the bright side the transfer portal re-opens on 4/16.

If Macon can run then go with him. The forward pass is not in the NIU playbook.

I’m going to regret this, but I have one last chance in me for Hampton. There has to be something there the coaches see. I can live with a FEW interceptions early as long as he is putting points up.

(04-04-2024 12:34 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  I’m going to regret this, but I have one last chance in me for Hampton. There has to be something there the coaches see. I can live with a FEW interceptions early as long as he is putting points up.

I think with us playing WIU to start will make hampton look "good" and then we go into ND. Which then could lose whatever confidence he gained from the game prior.

I still think he has talent, as you saw in the Kentucky game that we almost won with him behind center. He throws a nice ball and probably a stronger arm the Rocky. At-least we can say the kid got every opportunity to prove he would be the guy if he doesn't succeed.

(04-04-2024 11:37 AM)mustangfootball2004 Wrote:  

(04-04-2024 10:02 AM)7 Wrote:  https://x.com/ddceddiecarifio/status/177...aiWqpvQq1Q

Good thread on today’s practice. Sounds like the QB competition is mostly Hampton and Macon right now.

I'm sensing a long season. On the bright side the transfer portal re-opens on 4/16.

Based on…?

I think this might be the best defense hammock has ever had. The offense is plug and play. I am confident this season will be Hammock’s best. Next season? Cross that bridge when we get there. 33 seniors gone…and these dudes are like super duper seniors.

(04-04-2024 01:21 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(04-04-2024 11:37 AM)mustangfootball2004 Wrote:  

(04-04-2024 10:02 AM)7 Wrote:  https://x.com/ddceddiecarifio/status/177...aiWqpvQq1Q

Good thread on today’s practice. Sounds like the QB competition is mostly Hampton and Macon right now.

I'm sensing a long season. On the bright side the transfer portal re-opens on 4/16.

Based on…?

I think this might be the best defense hammock has ever had. The offense is plug and play. I am confident this season will be Hammock’s best. Next season? Cross that bridge when we get there. 33 seniors gone…and these dudes are like super duper seniors.

The current QB situation. I hope I'm wrong. Maybe Hampton and Macon got better. If the QB isn't good, I don't think it'll matter how good the defense is.

Hope Macon wins the job. I've seen enough of Hampton, unless something has drastically changed he isn't an FBS level QB. He's lost every game he has played significant snaps or started. He looked bad vs Tulsa last season and only played garbage time vs Nebraska when they didn't care because the game was a blowout. 2022 season when he played the most he played poorly. He basically gave Toledo a bunch of points with two pick 6s and 4 total INTs.

(04-04-2024 07:22 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Hope Macon wins the job. I've seen enough of Hampton, unless something has drastically changed he isn't an FBS level QB. He's lost every game he has played significant snaps or started. He looked bad vs Tulsa last season and only played garbage time vs Nebraska when they didn't care because the game was a blowout. 2022 season when he played the most he played poorly. He basically gave Toledo a bunch of points with two pick 6s and 4 total INTs.

Let me try to make a case for Hampton. It's going to take some creative thinking but I feel it's necessary. If he ends up the starter we have to try to find an up-side(my guess is he does become the starter).

Hampton has had 3 horrible games in limited action. Thats why his career stats are pretty blah. His first start vs WMU in 21. Last game of the season. Crap weather if I remember. Hampton's first game action in 2 years. Meaningless game with guys just trying to not get hurt before MACC. I can excuse this performance. The Tulsa game in 23....pretty bad. No excuse there. But then you had the Toledo game in 22. Horrible. Hampton didnt take another snap that season so I'm wondering if something happened to him in that game.

The main reason I'm using the hurt excuse in that Toledo game is because he was just coming off 3 pretty good games prior. He had just started against Vandy, Kentucky and Ball state and was a combined 42/73(58%) 514 yards, 5 tds to 2 ints with the team averaging 30pts/game. And even if he wasn't hurt...maybe Toledo threw some looks at him that he just wasn't ready for.

Garbage time or not, Hampton did go 6-8 for 50 yards and a TD at Nebraska. So oddly enough most of his best action has been against P5 opponents. The guy only has 160 passes in his career....that's roughly 5 to 6 games and it's been spread out over 3 seasons. He could go into fall camp being #1 for the first time in his career and maybe take the next step. He has the arm...just needs to brains.

(04-04-2024 11:06 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(04-04-2024 07:22 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Hope Macon wins the job. I've seen enough of Hampton, unless something has drastically changed he isn't an FBS level QB. He's lost every game he has played significant snaps or started. He looked bad vs Tulsa last season and only played garbage time vs Nebraska when they didn't care because the game was a blowout. 2022 season when he played the most he played poorly. He basically gave Toledo a bunch of points with two pick 6s and 4 total INTs.

Let me try to make a case for Hampton. It's going to take some creative thinking but I feel it's necessary. If he ends up the starter we have to try to find an up-side(my guess is he does become the starter).

Hampton has had 3 horrible games in limited action. Thats why his career stats are pretty blah. His first start vs WMU in 21. Last game of the season. Crap weather if I remember. Hampton's first game action in 2 years. Meaningless game with guys just trying to not get hurt before MACC. I can excuse this performance. The Tulsa game in 23....pretty bad. No excuse there. But then you had the Toledo game in 22. Horrible. Hampton didnt take another snap that season so I'm wondering if something happened to him in that game.

The main reason I'm using the hurt excuse in that Toledo game is because he was just coming off 3 pretty good games prior. He had just started against Vandy, Kentucky and Ball state and was a combined 42/73(58%) 514 yards, 5 tds to 2 ints with the team averaging 30pts/game. And even if he wasn't hurt...maybe Toledo threw some looks at him that he just wasn't ready for.

Garbage time or not, Hampton did go 6-8 for 50 yards and a TD at Nebraska. So oddly enough most of his best action has been against P5 opponents. The guy only has 160 passes in his career....that's roughly 5 to 6 games and it's been spread out over 3 seasons. He could go into fall camp being #1 for the first time in his career and maybe take the next step. He has the arm...just needs to brains.

I dont think it even requires too much creative thinking. He has done good things. He needs reps - remember he didn’t have a senior year of High School. Hammock screwed up by not getting the kid reps more than he did. These guys who missed their senior years don’t have the timing or experience you need to be successful. The only way to get this is to play - Hammock didn’t offer him too much Time.

(04-04-2024 11:06 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(04-04-2024 07:22 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Hope Macon wins the job. I've seen enough of Hampton, unless something has drastically changed he isn't an FBS level QB. He's lost every game he has played significant snaps or started. He looked bad vs Tulsa last season and only played garbage time vs Nebraska when they didn't care because the game was a blowout. 2022 season when he played the most he played poorly. He basically gave Toledo a bunch of points with two pick 6s and 4 total INTs.

Let me try to make a case for Hampton. It's going to take some creative thinking but I feel it's necessary. If he ends up the starter we have to try to find an up-side(my guess is he does become the starter).

Hampton has had 3 horrible games in limited action. Thats why his career stats are pretty blah. His first start vs WMU in 21. Last game of the season. Crap weather if I remember. Hampton's first game action in 2 years. Meaningless game with guys just trying to not get hurt before MACC. I can excuse this performance. The Tulsa game in 23....pretty bad. No excuse there. But then you had the Toledo game in 22. Horrible. Hampton didnt take another snap that season so I'm wondering if something happened to him in that game.

The main reason I'm using the hurt excuse in that Toledo game is because he was just coming off 3 pretty good games prior. He had just started against Vandy, Kentucky and Ball state and was a combined 42/73(58%) 514 yards, 5 tds to 2 ints with the team averaging 30pts/game. And even if he wasn't hurt...maybe Toledo threw some looks at him that he just wasn't ready for.

Garbage time or not, Hampton did go 6-8 for 50 yards and a TD at Nebraska. So oddly enough most of his best action has been against P5 opponents. The guy only has 160 passes in his career....that's roughly 5 to 6 games and it's been spread out over 3 seasons. He could go into fall camp being #1 for the first time in his career and maybe take the next step. He has the arm...just needs to brains.

Wasn't it also Quinyon Mitchell picking off multiple passes? He's a class above most MAC players. In retrospect the picks are a combination of many factors, one being a superb DB

(04-05-2024 08:07 AM)epicbret Wrote:  

(04-04-2024 11:06 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(04-04-2024 07:22 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Hope Macon wins the job. I've seen enough of Hampton, unless something has drastically changed he isn't an FBS level QB. He's lost every game he has played significant snaps or started. He looked bad vs Tulsa last season and only played garbage time vs Nebraska when they didn't care because the game was a blowout. 2022 season when he played the most he played poorly. He basically gave Toledo a bunch of points with two pick 6s and 4 total INTs.

Let me try to make a case for Hampton. It's going to take some creative thinking but I feel it's necessary. If he ends up the starter we have to try to find an up-side(my guess is he does become the starter).

Hampton has had 3 horrible games in limited action. Thats why his career stats are pretty blah. His first start vs WMU in 21. Last game of the season. Crap weather if I remember. Hampton's first game action in 2 years. Meaningless game with guys just trying to not get hurt before MACC. I can excuse this performance. The Tulsa game in 23....pretty bad. No excuse there. But then you had the Toledo game in 22. Horrible. Hampton didnt take another snap that season so I'm wondering if something happened to him in that game.

The main reason I'm using the hurt excuse in that Toledo game is because he was just coming off 3 pretty good games prior. He had just started against Vandy, Kentucky and Ball state and was a combined 42/73(58%) 514 yards, 5 tds to 2 ints with the team averaging 30pts/game. And even if he wasn't hurt...maybe Toledo threw some looks at him that he just wasn't ready for.

Garbage time or not, Hampton did go 6-8 for 50 yards and a TD at Nebraska. So oddly enough most of his best action has been against P5 opponents. The guy only has 160 passes in his career....that's roughly 5 to 6 games and it's been spread out over 3 seasons. He could go into fall camp being #1 for the first time in his career and maybe take the next step. He has the arm...just needs to brains.

Wasn't it also Quinyon Mitchell picking off multiple passes? He's a class above most MAC players. In retrospect the picks are a combination of many factors, one being a superb DB

Mitchell had a career 6 INTs in 46 games played...four of them were in one game against Hampton.

(04-05-2024 08:25 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(04-05-2024 08:07 AM)epicbret Wrote:  

(04-04-2024 11:06 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(04-04-2024 07:22 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  Hope Macon wins the job. I've seen enough of Hampton, unless something has drastically changed he isn't an FBS level QB. He's lost every game he has played significant snaps or started. He looked bad vs Tulsa last season and only played garbage time vs Nebraska when they didn't care because the game was a blowout. 2022 season when he played the most he played poorly. He basically gave Toledo a bunch of points with two pick 6s and 4 total INTs.

Let me try to make a case for Hampton. It's going to take some creative thinking but I feel it's necessary. If he ends up the starter we have to try to find an up-side(my guess is he does become the starter).

Hampton has had 3 horrible games in limited action. Thats why his career stats are pretty blah. His first start vs WMU in 21. Last game of the season. Crap weather if I remember. Hampton's first game action in 2 years. Meaningless game with guys just trying to not get hurt before MACC. I can excuse this performance. The Tulsa game in 23....pretty bad. No excuse there. But then you had the Toledo game in 22. Horrible. Hampton didnt take another snap that season so I'm wondering if something happened to him in that game.

The main reason I'm using the hurt excuse in that Toledo game is because he was just coming off 3 pretty good games prior. He had just started against Vandy, Kentucky and Ball state and was a combined 42/73(58%) 514 yards, 5 tds to 2 ints with the team averaging 30pts/game. And even if he wasn't hurt...maybe Toledo threw some looks at him that he just wasn't ready for.

Garbage time or not, Hampton did go 6-8 for 50 yards and a TD at Nebraska. So oddly enough most of his best action has been against P5 opponents. The guy only has 160 passes in his career....that's roughly 5 to 6 games and it's been spread out over 3 seasons. He could go into fall camp being #1 for the first time in his career and maybe take the next step. He has the arm...just needs to brains.

Wasn't it also Quinyon Mitchell picking off multiple passes? He's a class above most MAC players. In retrospect the picks are a combination of many factors, one being a superb DB

Mitchell had a career 6 INTs in 46 games played...four of them were in one game against Hampton.

And?

Are you about to say he's not a terrific DB, and that after the NIU game he was thrown at frequently? Because that's why he did have many picks after that. Teams avoided the man.

(04-05-2024 09:31 AM)epicbret Wrote:  Are you about to say he's not a terrific DB, and that after the NIU game he was thrown at frequently? Because that's why he did have many picks after that. Teams avoided the man.

Not saying he isn't a good player but how bad is Hampton to have given Mitchell two-thirds of all his career INTs in one game? Hampton stares down his receivers.

(04-05-2024 09:31 AM)epicbret Wrote:  Are you about to say he's not a terrific DB, and that after the NIU game he was thrown at frequently? Because that's why he did have many picks after that. Teams avoided the man.

Good point. A more Experienced QB doesn’t look to his side. It was probably just the first read and Hampton was on auto pilot.