(03-11-2024 08:16 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Maybe so. I just don’t think they will kick anyone in the p4 out. Gotta have some bottom of the barrel teams to slap around. Plus, would be lawsuits out the a$$. It’s one thing to tell 30-40 teams in the MWC, the MAC and AAC to go jump. Quite another to tell Vandy or BC or Northwestern

Yea they ain’t kicking out members.. Just some good ones being left out when their conferences get shut down.. I still say when this happens all of Colleges not in with the big boys should not play them, let them beat up on themselves.. I know you lose money on buy games but tell them to stick it where the sun don’t shine..

(03-11-2024 09:42 PM)tigergg Wrote:  

(03-11-2024 08:16 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Maybe so. I just don’t think they will kick anyone in the p4 out. Gotta have some bottom of the barrel teams to slap around. Plus, would be lawsuits out the a$$. It’s one thing to tell 30-40 teams in the MWC, the MAC and AAC to go jump. Quite another to tell Vandy or BC or Northwestern

Yea they ain’t kicking out members.. Just some good ones being left out when their conferences get shut down.. I still say when this happens all of Colleges not in with the big boys should not play them, let them beat up on themselves.. I know you lose money on buy games but tell them to stick it where the sun don’t shine..

They have already proven they don't give a crap about traditional opponents or regional rivalries with the latest moves. It's just one of the next dominos in the line to get knocked down. The only thing they might do otherwise would be to cut the shares of the dead weight schools so that the more "marketable" teams get their proper due for the worth they bring. The network(s) contracts are with the conferences, not the NCAA, so the networks will control who does what.

Lawsuits? Sure, but contracts can be broken and threats to sue can fly, but in the end they will get their way and the lawyers will make their money. Don't expect the NCAA to step in, because this group is ready to pull the plug and leave the NCAA because the NCAA can't stop them from pulling up stakes and starting their own pro football minor league with simple university-based affiliations.

I agree, when this happens, we only play those in our tier, and let them eat their own.

I agree about not playing the break away schools but that will never happen. They will dangle the money and all the little whores will line up to take it.

(03-11-2024 11:26 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  I agree about not playing the break away schools but that will never happen. They will dangle the money and all the little whores will line up to take it.

They might decide not to play us.

Another thread dominated by Miserables. Is it the weather or what?

You talk about being left out of money, playoffs, recruiting, scheduling, etc. if it goes to 64 teams from the Big 3-4. I ask you...what is different from today?

We've never had a shot at the playoffs - until the next 2 years.
We've never had the big money - but we've made do and have a "newish" stadium coming.
We've never gotten 4-star recruits - but made our bones from talent evaluation - they still can't take them all.
They don't want to play us now - unless we go on the road.

But still, we've had some good times cheering for Memphis. Why will that be any different?

They can take them all. Small schools that evaluate and develop talent and late bloomers will have many of those players ripped away from them each off-season.

(03-09-2024 09:34 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(03-08-2024 11:18 PM)dcg141 Wrote:  That's the number being floated as "God Tier" in college football. Do we make that cut?

Of course not. We wouldn't make the cut if it was 84.

I think we’d make it at 80. But it’s close

(03-12-2024 09:57 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Another thread dominated by Miserables. Is it the weather or what?

You talk about being left out of money, playoffs, recruiting, scheduling, etc. if it goes to 64 teams from the Big 3-4. I ask you...what is different from today?

We've never had a shot at the playoffs - until the next 2 years.
We've never had the big money - but we've made do and have a "newish" stadium coming.
We've never gotten 4-star recruits - but made our bones from talent evaluation - they still can't take them all.
They don't want to play us now - unless we go on the road.

But still, we've had some good times cheering for Memphis. Why will that be any different?

What has changed is the money gap is going to increase exponentially at a time where paying players directly is on the table. The landscape is about to change dramatically. Its question of where that leaves the G5. Do they split off completely in football and form a new division and play only other G5's? Will there be enough money left for the G5 to keep football wo drastic cutbacks? I think most people are thinking that there is going to be a few minor adjustments but the powers that be are about to upend the game as we know it now. We may find ourselves with FCS type budgets and recruits. Now that division has fans and they run football programs but its a totally different thing that what most G5's are used to.

(03-12-2024 02:18 PM)dcg141 Wrote:  

(03-12-2024 09:57 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Another thread dominated by Miserables. Is it the weather or what?

You talk about being left out of money, playoffs, recruiting, scheduling, etc. if it goes to 64 teams from the Big 3-4. I ask you...what is different from today?

We've never had a shot at the playoffs - until the next 2 years.
We've never had the big money - but we've made do and have a "newish" stadium coming.
We've never gotten 4-star recruits - but made our bones from talent evaluation - they still can't take them all.
They don't want to play us now - unless we go on the road.

But still, we've had some good times cheering for Memphis. Why will that be any different?

What has changed is the money gap is going to increase exponentially at a time where paying players directly is on the table. The landscape is about to change dramatically. Its question of where that leaves the G5. Do they split off completely in football and form a new division and play only other G5's? Will there be enough money left for the G5 to keep football wo drastic cutbacks? I think most people are thinking that there is going to be a few minor adjustments but the powers that be are about to upend the game as we know it now. We may find ourselves with FCS type budgets and recruits. Now that division has fans and they run football programs but its a totally different thing that what most G5's are used to.

So recruits is your biggest concern. How many top recruits are we getting today? How many 5- and 4-star football recruits have we ever landed over our entire history? I think 3, maybe, over 40 years of rankings. We won't be able to land a recruit that Old Miss or UTK really wants. And this is different from today, how?

Again. They can't take everyone to just those 64 schools. There have always been fringe, underrated players and there always will be. We may be stuck with playing our G5 opponents with 3-star players. And this is different from today, how?

I agree we need to find a way out of the AAC to improve our status. And am confident that this and the previous admins are doing everything possible. But I'll still be a fan no matter what league we are in.

It's different today because almost every player that Memphis finds as a diamond in the rough and develops will simply be bought out by a P4 school. That is the difference.

What’s really going to suck is when those 64-70 schools comprise what is now the NCAA tournament. They’ll take away the one thing some non power schools can compete in.

(03-13-2024 09:26 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  It's different today because almost every player that Memphis finds as a diamond in the rough and develops will simply be bought out by a P4 school. That is the difference.

It seems you relish in being the stick-in-the-mud type but that's always been the case regarding crootin' against P5. Except now its done above the table instead of underneath. Programs like Memphis always have to hype up playing time. Sure, NIL might not be as sweet but if your goal is to make it to the NFL they're going to need tape and if you're sitting behind 3 upperclassmen dudes and getting no PT then is that better? Again, not every kid will buy that argument but its not a bad one. I also wouldn't blame a kid for taking the money and chilling on the bench for 3 years. That's the beauty of the free market. Make your own decisions/mistakes.

I'm not being miserable I'm just trying to see what's coming. The rest of college football IMO should stop waiting and be more proactive about their future. Stop letting the SEC dictate literally everything going forward. They are not about sharing any revenue. Even if they expand the pie they are going to take the loins share of it. I think everyone else are going to have find other sources of income. Streaming services, possibly even trying to get the Saudis interested in challenging the current power structure. They seem like they like buying their way into the sports world. Thinking out of the box needs to start happening.

Here is why the SEC is pushing this deal so hard right now. They are smart and know that NIL is a threat to them as well. Its why they are actively trying to dry up any sources of revenue for anyone else. They know that any school or conference is just one blank check away from making a run at them. Kids are gonna start going to the highest bidder and now that its legal they are vulnerable and they know it. There is money out there beyond the Fox, ESPN, SEC ecosphere. The rest of college football needs to find out who is interested. Their future depends on it with a doubt.

(03-13-2024 10:32 AM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  

(03-13-2024 09:26 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  It's different today because almost every player that Memphis finds as a diamond in the rough and develops will simply be bought out by a P4 school. That is the difference.

It seems you relish in being the stick-in-the-mud type but that's always been the case regarding crootin' against P5. Except now its done above the table instead of underneath. Programs like Memphis always have to hype up playing time. Sure, NIL might not be as sweet but if your goal is to make it to the NFL they're going to need tape and if you're sitting behind 3 upperclassmen dudes and getting no PT then is that better? Again, not every kid will buy that argument but its not a bad one. I also wouldn't blame a kid for taking the money and chilling on the bench for 3 years. That's the beauty of the free market. Make your own decisions/mistakes.

NIL is a complete and total game changer for the haves. They have only just begun to figure out how to use it.

There is money out there, private equity frim, a spurned wanna be NFL owner we need to start looking for it. Its now the wild, wild west and the sooner everyone accepts reality the better. Stop waiting for someone else to determine our future. Its now pro football and it needs to be treated that way. Start using the LB to generate income, concerts ect. Gonna be way cheaper to buy your way into the playoffs via a G5 route.

(03-13-2024 07:16 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(03-13-2024 10:32 AM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  

(03-13-2024 09:26 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  It's different today because almost every player that Memphis finds as a diamond in the rough and develops will simply be bought out by a P4 school. That is the difference.

It seems you relish in being the stick-in-the-mud type but that's always been the case regarding crootin' against P5. Except now its done above the table instead of underneath. Programs like Memphis always have to hype up playing time. Sure, NIL might not be as sweet but if your goal is to make it to the NFL they're going to need tape and if you're sitting behind 3 upperclassmen dudes and getting no PT then is that better? Again, not every kid will buy that argument but its not a bad one. I also wouldn't blame a kid for taking the money and chilling on the bench for 3 years. That's the beauty of the free market. Make your own decisions/mistakes.

NIL is a complete and total game changer for the haves. They have only just begun to figure out how to use it.

Okay, kinda like when they would just offer a recruit money in a bag or a car or a house since the beginning of big time college sports? Honestly, if watching/following the Tigers causes you so much negativity why do it? All you post on here is doom and gloom stuff. If following the Tigers meant I waste my time to get online and just post piss mist all day I'd probably find a new hobby.

There will be a draft for college players.
Only select institutions will be allowed to draft players.
There will be contracts, salary caps and salary bands all imposed by these institutions.