(02-22-2024 05:13 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  This absolutely inhales vigorously if true.

Game changer.

Concerned.

Again based on what? What is he going to bring Elliot did not. Not a fan of Elliot's style of coaching but nobody can dispute his competence when it came to know the game of football. I get he may have been a really good guy at GS but the legend that is Dell in some folks mind is laughable as of today, you have absolutely nothing to base it on. Since his debut in college football in 2013 he has not made it past RB coach as his main position. To me that is slightly concerning. I dont want to hear about recruiting at thUGA, Hellen Keller could get five stars at thUGA with NIL and she is dead. He is no different than 90% of all G5 hires slightly better or worse than a coin flip hire most of the time. Fritz and Chadwell's resumes is what you should look for but sadly starting at the bottom and working your way up is not valued enough. I think JMU probably had the best on paper hire.

(02-22-2024 10:17 AM)JCGSU Wrote:  I am not saying he sucks or cant be good but there is zero evidence for either position. That is the difference I am not saying either way but the excitement is not based on anything tangible for HC. The fanatic position is to say he has no chance if not a fan of GSU and he is a "homerun" hire on the other side. Both are equally ridiculous. We all know media opinions are based on click bait, pandering, pushing buttons etc etc Sallee is a regional goober that has done nothing as well he is the Dell McGee of writers lol. I dont think he breaks 100K a year. Not rooting against the guy just saying nothing to hate or love about it at this point.

I just gave you a reason why we should be excited for this hire, you didn't acknowledge it for some reason. He's going to put his arms around Atlanta and bring athletes here playing for the home team- don't overlook this, that's going to be huge in building an identity for a young program. He has extensive inroads around GA high schools that Shawn Elliott never had. He already has relationships in coaching circles that's treated like a fraternity in the industry.

Here's why I think McGee is an upgrade over his predecessor.
- We need a CEO-type head coach, not just a ball coach. We need a popular guy in town like Dell McGee to win over Atlanta business leaders and boosters to raise funds. We need a charismatic guy who can connect with the fanbase to increase attendance. We need a locally renowned guy that ATL radio and TV personalities already adore, so he can promote GSU football around town. We need someone who can demand the respect and attention from this generation of 18-22 years old who wants to maintain positive relationships on and off the field.
- Prior coordinator experience wasn't a limiting factor, because we dont necessarily need a head coach who wants to micromanage the Xs and Os. He can hire coordinators who can bring their own system, then prepare to promote from within for continuity. McGee may still provide big-picture inputs on what had worked previously in Kirby Smart's meeting rooms. We need him to create highly functional football infrastructure internally, then delegate responsibilities to each person's strength in his staff.

Well, GSU getting a coach that will actually live in Georgia is already an upgrade. I'd say this would be a win, especially with the spot they are in.

(02-21-2024 11:16 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  Must be fake news. AppManDG says GSU is "not very appealing to coaches" in his exact words. Couldn't possibly lure a huge college football name like Dell McGee from a perennial National Championship powerhouse program while taking a PAYCUT. Couldn't possibly be EAGER to work in downtown Atlanta when he's already LIVING THE LIFE in rural town like Athens.

(but seriously, Dell Mcgee was most likely Charlie Cobb's first choice since the day after Shawn Elliott left town + the talk is that McGee absolutely nailed the interview)

Huge College Football name? Maybe in Georgia, but nobody I've talked to has ever heard of him. Fifty years old, so he probably saw this as his best shot to landing a HC gig. Good for him. Funny that Cobb goes after a Georgia Southern guy to turn the Panthers ship around. Guess we'll have to wait and see if he is the guy that can finally get a win over the Mountaineers.

(02-22-2024 09:18 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(02-21-2024 11:16 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  Must be fake news. AppManDG says GSU is "not very appealing to coaches" in his exact words. Couldn't possibly lure a huge college football name like Dell McGee from a perennial National Championship powerhouse program while taking a PAYCUT. Couldn't possibly be EAGER to work in downtown Atlanta when he's already LIVING THE LIFE in rural town like Athens.

(but seriously, Dell Mcgee was most likely Charlie Cobb's first choice since the day after Shawn Elliott left town + the talk is that McGee absolutely nailed the interview)

Huge College Football name? Maybe in Georgia, but nobody I've talked to has ever heard of him. Fifty years old, so he probably saw this as his best shot to landing a HC gig. Good for him. Funny that Cobb goes after a Georgia Southern guy to turn the Panthers ship around. Guess we'll have to wait and see if he is the guy that can finally get a win over the Mountaineers.

At this stage Dell is more a UGA guy than a Southern guy, having logged 8 years between the hedges and having a short but successful 3 year stint in Statesboro.

What has always impressed me about Dell was the work he did at the high school level, winning around 90 games in 8 years along with a state championship, in his hometown and in the midst of a region that Carver had previously been a whipping dog. Prior to his arrival they hadn't had a winning season in a decade, and in 3 years they won the title, in 2008 I believe.

He clearly has the ability to engage and connect with the players, and doing it in this new NIL era will be something different, but I wouldn't count him out.

Many outside the state of Georgia won't remember McGee banning UGA from recruiting his campus in 2009 when UGA pulled Devin Burns scholarship offer late, but it made significant waves and got Richt's attention quickly. Ultimately it impacted other players who were juniors, like Isaiah Crowell that year but by their senior season it got ironed out.

(02-22-2024 09:18 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(02-21-2024 11:16 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  Must be fake news. AppManDG says GSU is "not very appealing to coaches" in his exact words. Couldn't possibly lure a huge college football name like Dell McGee from a perennial National Championship powerhouse program while taking a PAYCUT. Couldn't possibly be EAGER to work in downtown Atlanta when he's already LIVING THE LIFE in rural town like Athens.

(but seriously, Dell Mcgee was most likely Charlie Cobb's first choice since the day after Shawn Elliott left town + the talk is that McGee absolutely nailed the interview)

Huge College Football name? Maybe in Georgia, but nobody I've talked to has ever heard of him. Fifty years old, so he probably saw this as his best shot to landing a HC gig. Good for him. Funny that Cobb goes after a Georgia Southern guy to turn the Panthers ship around. Guess we'll have to wait and see if he is the guy that can finally get a win over the Mountaineers.

I don't know about that one chief. You're losing all credibility in this conversation if a serious college football fan has never heard of McGee at least in passing. He's an absolute legend from high school to college ranks. Don't make me pull out the long list of former and current NFL athletes credited with McGee's recruitment and mentorship. When McGee's name leaked about this job, GSU received the most media attention it ever had since beating Tennessee, and I have no delusion that it had more to do with McGee's reputation than us.

(02-23-2024 11:31 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(02-22-2024 09:18 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(02-21-2024 11:16 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  Must be fake news. AppManDG says GSU is "not very appealing to coaches" in his exact words. Couldn't possibly lure a huge college football name like Dell McGee from a perennial National Championship powerhouse program while taking a PAYCUT. Couldn't possibly be EAGER to work in downtown Atlanta when he's already LIVING THE LIFE in rural town like Athens.

(but seriously, Dell Mcgee was most likely Charlie Cobb's first choice since the day after Shawn Elliott left town + the talk is that McGee absolutely nailed the interview)

Huge College Football name? Maybe in Georgia, but nobody I've talked to has ever heard of him. Fifty years old, so he probably saw this as his best shot to landing a HC gig. Good for him. Funny that Cobb goes after a Georgia Southern guy to turn the Panthers ship around. Guess we'll have to wait and see if he is the guy that can finally get a win over the Mountaineers.

I don't know about that one chief. You're losing all credibility in this conversation if a serious college football fan has never heard of McGee at least in passing. He's an absolute legend from high school to college ranks. Don't make me pull out the long list of former and current NFL athletes credited with McGee's recruitment and mentorship. When McGee's name leaked about this job, GSU received the most media attention it ever had since beating Tennessee, and I have no delusion that it had more to do with McGee's reputation than us.

I consider myself fairly affluent in college football. Being in Mississippi, with 2 other SEC programs (though UGA has been in the East and the MS teams in the SEC West), I do not recognize his name. When I saw his name, the first thing that came to mind was computers. That is not to minimize his abilities or the job he will do. He just is not recognized by many outside the state of Georgia. And that really does not matter.

(02-23-2024 12:23 PM)Eagleholic Wrote:  

(02-23-2024 11:31 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(02-22-2024 09:18 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(02-21-2024 11:16 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  Must be fake news. AppManDG says GSU is "not very appealing to coaches" in his exact words. Couldn't possibly lure a huge college football name like Dell McGee from a perennial National Championship powerhouse program while taking a PAYCUT. Couldn't possibly be EAGER to work in downtown Atlanta when he's already LIVING THE LIFE in rural town like Athens.

(but seriously, Dell Mcgee was most likely Charlie Cobb's first choice since the day after Shawn Elliott left town + the talk is that McGee absolutely nailed the interview)

Huge College Football name? Maybe in Georgia, but nobody I've talked to has ever heard of him. Fifty years old, so he probably saw this as his best shot to landing a HC gig. Good for him. Funny that Cobb goes after a Georgia Southern guy to turn the Panthers ship around. Guess we'll have to wait and see if he is the guy that can finally get a win over the Mountaineers.

I don't know about that one chief. You're losing all credibility in this conversation if a serious college football fan has never heard of McGee at least in passing. He's an absolute legend from high school to college ranks. Don't make me pull out the long list of former and current NFL athletes credited with McGee's recruitment and mentorship. When McGee's name leaked about this job, GSU received the most media attention it ever had since beating Tennessee, and I have no delusion that it had more to do with McGee's reputation than us.

I consider myself fairly affluent in college football. Being in Mississippi, with 2 other SEC programs (though UGA has been in the East and the MS teams in the SEC West), I do not recognize his name. When I saw his name, the first thing that came to mind was computers. That is not to minimize his abilities or the job he will do. He just is not recognized by many outside the state of Georgia. And that really does not matter.

You haven't heard of the assistant head coach/run-game coordinator of the national championship team in back to back years? Even during the broadcast, his name was featured for creating a RB factory at UGA to the NFL, as part of the TV analysts' talking points on national TV.

Well perhaps UGA doesn't dominate daily sports conversations until your ears bleed as you get further away from the heart of the Southeast toward Mississippi and North Carolina. I wouldn't call myself a UGA fan in the slightest, but it's a familiar name nonetheless. If you listen to sports radio during commutes or read the sports columns even casually, it's a frequently mentioned name.

This guy covers UGA, but he said everything I wanted to say. Georgia State needs someone who can put a wall around Atlanta, even just Fulton County. Too many out-of-state programs look at Atlanta as a juicy recruiting buffet. There's no reason Georgia State should be 111th in recruiting for 2024.

How much are ya'll looking to put into assistant pool?

(02-22-2024 10:45 PM)Eagle22 Wrote:  

(02-22-2024 09:18 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(02-21-2024 11:16 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  Must be fake news. AppManDG says GSU is "not very appealing to coaches" in his exact words. Couldn't possibly lure a huge college football name like Dell McGee from a perennial National Championship powerhouse program while taking a PAYCUT. Couldn't possibly be EAGER to work in downtown Atlanta when he's already LIVING THE LIFE in rural town like Athens.

(but seriously, Dell Mcgee was most likely Charlie Cobb's first choice since the day after Shawn Elliott left town + the talk is that McGee absolutely nailed the interview)

Huge College Football name? Maybe in Georgia, but nobody I've talked to has ever heard of him. Fifty years old, so he probably saw this as his best shot to landing a HC gig. Good for him. Funny that Cobb goes after a Georgia Southern guy to turn the Panthers ship around. Guess we'll have to wait and see if he is the guy that can finally get a win over the Mountaineers.

At this stage Dell is more a UGA guy than a Southern guy, having logged 8 years between the hedges and having a short but successful 3 year stint in Statesboro.

What has always impressed me about Dell was the work he did at the high school level, winning around 90 games in 8 years along with a state championship, in his hometown and in the midst of a region that Carver had previously been a whipping dog. Prior to his arrival they hadn't had a winning season in a decade, and in 3 years they won the title, in 2008 I believe.

He clearly has the ability to engage and connect with the players, and doing it in this new NIL era will be something different, but I wouldn't count him out.

Many outside the state of Georgia won't remember McGee banning UGA from recruiting his campus in 2009 when UGA pulled Devin Burns scholarship offer late, but it made significant waves and got Richt's attention quickly. Ultimately it impacted other players who were juniors, like Isaiah Crowell that year but by their senior season it got ironed out.

I value your opinion my friend, so I'll go with what you said. Interesting he was hired by UGA after he banned them from recruiting his school.

(02-23-2024 11:31 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  

(02-22-2024 09:18 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(02-21-2024 11:16 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  Must be fake news. AppManDG says GSU is "not very appealing to coaches" in his exact words. Couldn't possibly lure a huge college football name like Dell McGee from a perennial National Championship powerhouse program while taking a PAYCUT. Couldn't possibly be EAGER to work in downtown Atlanta when he's already LIVING THE LIFE in rural town like Athens.

(but seriously, Dell Mcgee was most likely Charlie Cobb's first choice since the day after Shawn Elliott left town + the talk is that McGee absolutely nailed the interview)

Huge College Football name? Maybe in Georgia, but nobody I've talked to has ever heard of him. Fifty years old, so he probably saw this as his best shot to landing a HC gig. Good for him. Funny that Cobb goes after a Georgia Southern guy to turn the Panthers ship around. Guess we'll have to wait and see if he is the guy that can finally get a win over the Mountaineers.

I don't know about that one chief. You're losing all credibility in this conversation if a serious college football fan has never heard of McGee at least in passing. He's an absolute legend from high school to college ranks. Don't make me pull out the long list of former and current NFL athletes credited with McGee's recruitment and mentorship. When McGee's name leaked about this job, GSU received the most media attention it ever had since beating Tennessee, and I have no delusion that it had more to do with McGee's reputation than us.

I'm a serious App State and Sun Belt fan not necessarily a P4 or Georgia fan. The semi-pro P4 does not interest me at all. I'm glad Cobb has apparently gotten the guy a lot of GA State fans wanted. Best of luck with him.

(02-22-2024 06:11 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  I dont want to hear about recruiting at thUGA, Hellen Keller could get five stars at thUGA with NIL and she is dead.

I'm glad you specified why she would struggle there, I wasn't sure what you were getting at.

I mean, you're right overall about McGee. We'll wait and see, just like we do with every new head coach ever (except for Kirby Smart, that MFer was ready to roll).

It is a hire that inspires a lot of hope, however, and I'll definitely take it over like 99.9% of the first-time college HCs we could have reasonably landed.

Has this even been confirmed though? Don't wanna jump the gun. (Sorry for being slow, couple of busy days here...)

EDIT: Didn't see it in my quick look through the thread, but has it even been mentioned that his son is a Panther?

EDIT again: From the Score ATL article...what an interesting little mix of facts to get wrong...
"Now as a first time head coach in the college ranks, McGee comes to Atlanta and will look to add his own touch to the Georgia State Football program who finished with a 6-7 record last season with a 23-21 loss to Buffalo in the Camellia Bowl."

(02-23-2024 03:02 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(02-22-2024 10:45 PM)Eagle22 Wrote:  

(02-22-2024 09:18 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(02-21-2024 11:16 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  Must be fake news. AppManDG says GSU is "not very appealing to coaches" in his exact words. Couldn't possibly lure a huge college football name like Dell McGee from a perennial National Championship powerhouse program while taking a PAYCUT. Couldn't possibly be EAGER to work in downtown Atlanta when he's already LIVING THE LIFE in rural town like Athens.

(but seriously, Dell Mcgee was most likely Charlie Cobb's first choice since the day after Shawn Elliott left town + the talk is that McGee absolutely nailed the interview)

Huge College Football name? Maybe in Georgia, but nobody I've talked to has ever heard of him. Fifty years old, so he probably saw this as his best shot to landing a HC gig. Good for him. Funny that Cobb goes after a Georgia Southern guy to turn the Panthers ship around. Guess we'll have to wait and see if he is the guy that can finally get a win over the Mountaineers.

At this stage Dell is more a UGA guy than a Southern guy, having logged 8 years between the hedges and having a short but successful 3 year stint in Statesboro.

What has always impressed me about Dell was the work he did at the high school level, winning around 90 games in 8 years along with a state championship, in his hometown and in the midst of a region that Carver had previously been a whipping dog. Prior to his arrival they hadn't had a winning season in a decade, and in 3 years they won the title, in 2008 I believe.

He clearly has the ability to engage and connect with the players, and doing it in this new NIL era will be something different, but I wouldn't count him out.

Many outside the state of Georgia won't remember McGee banning UGA from recruiting his campus in 2009 when UGA pulled Devin Burns scholarship offer late, but it made significant waves and got Richt's attention quickly. Ultimately it impacted other players who were juniors, like Isaiah Crowell that year but by their senior season it got ironed out.

I value your opinion my friend, so I'll go with what you said. Interesting he was hired by UGA after he banned them from recruiting his school.

They saw someone doing his job well, and not intimidated by a bigger, stronger entity and said, :We want him on our team." Perfectly normal in the business world. It's why all the "G5 ADs and Presidents won't stand up to P4 conferences because they want to work there someday" makes zero sense. Do we think the highest paying jobs will go to people they've seen roll over at the slightest pressure?Slive was C-USA's first Commissioner before the SEC hired him away. They wanted him because he was making waves with C-USA and he proved to be cut throat for the SEC once they hired him. The SEC would never hire a G5 Commissioner that rolled over when they pressured him. Likewise, their schools won't hire a weak G5 AD pr President. They want someone who will challenge Senators for their schools.

We finally got a coach familiar with the state on a personal level. Curry was an Atlanta guy but was past his prime as a coach. Trent Miles was a Midwest guy and well we've discussed Elliot's shortfalls. At our level you win with QB play and speed on defense. Hopefully he can get us both.

(02-23-2024 02:13 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  How much are ya'll looking to put into assistant pool?

TBD, I think that was one of the details that McGee was negotiating until late Friday.

Official. Now the fun part of assembling the staff.

Ok...Georgia St fans. Do you think this will be an improvement over what you had. It was a gut punch how Elliot left...are you gonna make lemonade out of this?

I’ll reserve judgement until I see the results.

What I know: he won’t have one foot here and another in SC. And he will recruit metro Atlanta.

What I don’t know: his ability to run a program and his ability to adjust from UGA’s built-in advantages to our unique challenges

I actually liked Elliott. A lot. I think had he lived here full-time and recruited locally, he’d have a conference title in his pocket. But he didn’t…and he doesn’t.

I don’t think McGee is going to be Elliott. I think his strengths and weaknesses will be different, and my guess is the net result will be the net same.

Just my $0.02. We will see.

(02-25-2024 11:02 AM)OsageJ Wrote:  Ok...Georgia St fans. Do you think this will be an improvement over what you had. It was a gut punch how Elliot left...are you gonna make lemonade out of this?

The real guy punch was when I heard Shawn Elliott made a trip to Columbia, SC at least once a week, sometimes twice a week, for personal reasons. Then the dots connected why we had more HS recruits around Columbia, not Atlanta. He could've bought a million dollar house near Buckhead and enrolled his children in places like Westminster. I just dont feel any sympathy about him giving a story about putting in 100k miles in his new truck from 2021.

In that press conference at USC, I believe he was genuine about his love for Columbia and the state of South Carolina. I'm happy for him to find employment in a place he loves.

We just need a guy with the same passion about Atlanta and Georgia. In that sense, I'm pretty sure 99% of the GSU fans believe this is an upgrade.