(02-09-2024 10:44 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(02-09-2024 09:03 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The Hardaway brothers only played 16 of 200 minutes (8%). The main issue with the close win does not lie with them

The Tiger's narrow victory can be mainly traced to missed free throws. Memphis only made 51.6%. A normal conversion (e.g., 75%) would probably have resulted in a comfortable win.

Pierre, who many wished to ride the pine, was one of the FT culprits (1-4), but scored nine of his ten points from three (3 of 4 shooting).

It isn't a coincidence that 3 large Temple* runs happened when Jayden was subbed in.

A juicy (although false) narrative is like black mold - tough to kill

1st Half
In 16:44 (7-2 Tigers)
Out 14:44 (11-9 Tigers)

In 10:36 (17-13 Tigers)
Out 7:12 (26-16 Tigers)

In 58 Sec (45-27 Tigers)
Out end of half (45-27 Tigers)

2nd Half
In 13:48 (55-42 Tigers)
Out 9:19 (63-54 Tigers)

In 1:18 (76-70 Tigers)
Out 1:11 (76-70 Tigers)

In 54 Sec (77-70 Tigers)
Out game over (84-77 Tigers)

https://dxbhsrqyrr690.cloudfront.net/sid...345848.pdf

He scored 0 points, and 0 rebounds in 11 minutes. He's a fifth year senior going backwards.

In 21-22 he shot 46.2 percent from 3. The next year he was 33 percent. This year he's 1/2 what he was in 21-22 at 23.1 percent.

He has no athleticism, rarely scores inside the arc. What the hell are we arguing about?

Does any Memphis fan not see when Penny puts his kids in, the energy of the team gets sucked out of the building?

(02-09-2024 04:44 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  He scored 0 points, and 0 rebounds in 11 minutes. He's a fifth year senior going backwards.

In 21-22 he shot 46.2 percent from 3. The next year he was 33 percent. This year he's 1/2 what he was in 21-22 at 23.1 percent.

He has no athleticism, rarely scores inside the arc. What the hell are we arguing about?

Does any Memphis fan not see when Penny puts his kids in, the energy of the team gets sucked out of the building?

Apparently so.

I haven’t been on this board long, but that dude is a serious Penny truther, despite what everyone else sees.

He probably still has his 90s Penny shoes and magic jersey hanging in the closet.

(02-08-2024 10:56 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-08-2024 05:58 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  No AAC team in any sport has started conference play 5-0 before falling to 5-5. Tigers are a 6.5 point road favorite to avoid that fate.

Memphis just 1.5 back of 4th place SMU for the bye.

Uh, Memphis did not start 5-0. They started 4-0, lost 4 straight, then won their last game for 5-4.

Sorry, my bad. I’ve been pretty busy the last couple weeks and haven’t been to follow as closely as I’d been.

Congrats Tigers, let’s see if we can get you back to the right side of the bubble.

(02-09-2024 10:00 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  I haven’t been on this board long, but that dude is a serious Penny truther, despite what everyone else sees.

He probably still has his 90s Penny shoes and magic jersey hanging in the closet.

Your inexperience explains your ignorance on the subject. My posting record demonstrates my loyalty is not to any one coach but to my alma mater and to the program I have supported for 50 years. I would not bat an eye if Penny was replaced by someone with reasonable assurance of better success.

I do not believe nepotism was a material contributing reason for the Tiger’s seven point margin over Temple and I backed up my assertion in this thread rather than insult the posters with whom I disagree.

(02-09-2024 04:44 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  He scored 0 points, and 0 rebounds in 11 minutes. He's a fifth year senior going backwards.

In 21-22 he shot 46.2 percent from 3. The next year he was 33 percent. This year he's 1/2 what he was in 21-22 at 23.1 percent.

He has no athleticism, rarely scores inside the arc. What the hell are we arguing about?

Does any Memphis fan not see when Penny puts his kids in, the energy of the team gets sucked out of the building?

Sure, most TIGER fans see exactly what is going on. Nepotism RULES; Jayden WILL get his minutes regardless. The head coach does not see any issue.

How any other coach in America would assess Jayden's efforts

(02-09-2024 01:25 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(02-09-2024 10:44 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(02-09-2024 09:03 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The Hardaway brothers only played 16 of 200 minutes (8%). The main issue with the close win does not lie with them

The Tiger's narrow victory can be mainly traced to missed free throws. Memphis only made 51.6%. A normal conversion (e.g., 75%) would probably have resulted in a comfortable win.

Pierre, who many wished to ride the pine, was one of the FT culprits (1-4), but scored nine of his ten points from three (3 of 4 shooting).

It isn't a coincidence that 3 large Temple* runs happened when Jayden was subbed in.

A juicy (although false) narrative is like black mold - tough to kill

1st Half
In 16:44 (7-2 Tigers)
Out 14:44 (11-9 Tigers)

In 10:36 (17-13 Tigers)
Out 7:12 (26-16 Tigers)

In 58 Sec (45-27 Tigers)
Out end of half (45-27 Tigers)

2nd Half
In 13:48 (55-42 Tigers)
Out 9:19 (63-54 Tigers)

In 1:18 (76-70 Tigers)
Out 1:11 (76-70 Tigers)

In 54 Sec (77-70 Tigers)
Out game over (84-77 Tigers)

https://dxbhsrqyrr690.cloudfront.net/sid...345848.pdf

Rather than look at blanket scores you should probably go rewatch the game. The sub for David Jones at the beginning of the game, the sub at the end of the half, and the 2nd half sub midway where Temple blasted him several straight possessions and he pouted down the court absolutely killed our momentum and he got pulled quickly but the damage of him being on the court had already been done. We were on track to obliterate Temple and his insertion was an obvious turning point each time.

(02-10-2024 10:35 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(02-09-2024 01:25 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(02-09-2024 10:44 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(02-09-2024 09:03 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The Hardaway brothers only played 16 of 200 minutes (8%). The main issue with the close win does not lie with them

The Tiger's narrow victory can be mainly traced to missed free throws. Memphis only made 51.6%. A normal conversion (e.g., 75%) would probably have resulted in a comfortable win.

Pierre, who many wished to ride the pine, was one of the FT culprits (1-4), but scored nine of his ten points from three (3 of 4 shooting).

It isn't a coincidence that 3 large Temple* runs happened when Jayden was subbed in.

A juicy (although false) narrative is like black mold - tough to kill

1st Half
In 16:44 (7-2 Tigers)
Out 14:44 (11-9 Tigers)

In 10:36 (17-13 Tigers)
Out 7:12 (26-16 Tigers)

In 58 Sec (45-27 Tigers)
Out end of half (45-27 Tigers)

2nd Half
In 13:48 (55-42 Tigers)
Out 9:19 (63-54 Tigers)

In 1:18 (76-70 Tigers)
Out 1:11 (76-70 Tigers)

In 54 Sec (77-70 Tigers)
Out game over (84-77 Tigers)

https://dxbhsrqyrr690.cloudfront.net/sid...345848.pdf

Rather than look at blanket scores you should probably go rewatch the game. The sub for David Jones at the beginning of the game, the sub at the end of the half, and the 2nd half sub midway where Temple blasted him several straight possessions and he pouted down the court absolutely killed our momentum and he got pulled quickly but the damage of him being on the court had already been done. We were on track to obliterate Temple and his insertion was an obvious turning point each time.

Ok, but it is inaccurate to state “ 3 large Temple* runs happened when Jayden was subbed in” . While Jayden played, the Tigers lost one net point.

JQ logged 39 minutes. Young was injured. Malcolm has stamina limitations. Jourdain (4) and Tomlin (fouled out) had foul trouble. The Tigers thrive on creating energy sapping turnovers (it worked - Tempe had seven more turnovers than Memphis). Who would you have substituted instead of Jayden keeping in mind Penny would have been roundly criticized had Pierre flopped?

IMO, Penny needs to shorten the rotation when feasible to build chemistry, but in the Temple game the main issue was missed free throws.

(02-10-2024 11:33 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 10:35 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(02-09-2024 01:25 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(02-09-2024 10:44 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(02-09-2024 09:03 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The Hardaway brothers only played 16 of 200 minutes (8%). The main issue with the close win does not lie with them

The Tiger's narrow victory can be mainly traced to missed free throws. Memphis only made 51.6%. A normal conversion (e.g., 75%) would probably have resulted in a comfortable win.

Pierre, who many wished to ride the pine, was one of the FT culprits (1-4), but scored nine of his ten points from three (3 of 4 shooting).

It isn't a coincidence that 3 large Temple* runs happened when Jayden was subbed in.

A juicy (although false) narrative is like black mold - tough to kill

1st Half
In 16:44 (7-2 Tigers)
Out 14:44 (11-9 Tigers)

In 10:36 (17-13 Tigers)
Out 7:12 (26-16 Tigers)

In 58 Sec (45-27 Tigers)
Out end of half (45-27 Tigers)

2nd Half
In 13:48 (55-42 Tigers)
Out 9:19 (63-54 Tigers)

In 1:18 (76-70 Tigers)
Out 1:11 (76-70 Tigers)

In 54 Sec (77-70 Tigers)
Out game over (84-77 Tigers)

https://dxbhsrqyrr690.cloudfront.net/sid...345848.pdf

Rather than look at blanket scores you should probably go rewatch the game. The sub for David Jones at the beginning of the game, the sub at the end of the half, and the 2nd half sub midway where Temple blasted him several straight possessions and he pouted down the court absolutely killed our momentum and he got pulled quickly but the damage of him being on the court had already been done. We were on track to obliterate Temple and his insertion was an obvious turning point each time.

Ok, but it is inaccurate to state “ 3 large Temple* runs happened when Jayden was subbed in” . While Jayden played, the Tigers lost one net point.

JQ logged 39 minutes. Young was injured. Malcolm has stamina limitations. Jourdain (4) and Tomlin (fouled out) had foul trouble. The Tigers thrive on creating energy sapping turnovers (it worked - Tempe had seven more turnovers than Memphis). Who would you have substituted instead of Jayden keeping in mind Penny would have been roundly criticized had Pierre flopped?

IMO, Penny needs to shorten the rotation when feasible to build chemistry, but in the Temple game the main issue was missed free throws.

It is entirely accurate that Jayden's insertion led to Temple runs.

(02-10-2024 11:35 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 11:33 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 10:35 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(02-09-2024 01:25 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(02-09-2024 10:44 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  It isn't a coincidence that 3 large Temple* runs happened when Jayden was subbed in.

A juicy (although false) narrative is like black mold - tough to kill

1st Half
In 16:44 (7-2 Tigers)
Out 14:44 (11-9 Tigers)

In 10:36 (17-13 Tigers)
Out 7:12 (26-16 Tigers)

In 58 Sec (45-27 Tigers)
Out end of half (45-27 Tigers)

2nd Half
In 13:48 (55-42 Tigers)
Out 9:19 (63-54 Tigers)

In 1:18 (76-70 Tigers)
Out 1:11 (76-70 Tigers)

In 54 Sec (77-70 Tigers)
Out game over (84-77 Tigers)

https://dxbhsrqyrr690.cloudfront.net/sid...345848.pdf

Rather than look at blanket scores you should probably go rewatch the game. The sub for David Jones at the beginning of the game, the sub at the end of the half, and the 2nd half sub midway where Temple blasted him several straight possessions and he pouted down the court absolutely killed our momentum and he got pulled quickly but the damage of him being on the court had already been done. We were on track to obliterate Temple and his insertion was an obvious turning point each time.

Ok, but it is inaccurate to state “ 3 large Temple* runs happened when Jayden was subbed in” . While Jayden played, the Tigers lost one net point.

JQ logged 39 minutes. Young was injured. Malcolm has stamina limitations. Jourdain (4) and Tomlin (fouled out) had foul trouble. The Tigers thrive on creating energy sapping turnovers (it worked - Tempe had seven more turnovers than Memphis). Who would you have substituted instead of Jayden keeping in mind Penny would have been roundly criticized had Pierre flopped?

IMO, Penny needs to shorten the rotation when feasible to build chemistry, but in the Temple game the main issue was missed free throws.

It is entirely accurate that Jayden's insertion led to Temple runs.

It is not accurate or at least causation cannot be quantified to my knowledge. There were possible other causes for the lapses after Jayden hit the bench including; others were subbed at the same time as Jayden, the team relaxed in general (a common occurrence unfortunately), and the players on the court during Temple’s run bear some responsibility.

(02-09-2024 11:22 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(02-09-2024 10:00 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  I haven’t been on this board long, but that dude is a serious Penny truther, despite what everyone else sees.

He probably still has his 90s Penny shoes and magic jersey hanging in the closet.

Your inexperience explains your ignorance on the subject. My posting record demonstrates my loyalty is not to any one coach but to my alma mater and to the program I have supported for 50 years. I would not bat an eye if Penny was replaced by someone with reasonable assurance of better success.

I do not believe nepotism was a material contributing reason for the Tiger’s seven point margin over Temple and I backed up my assertion in this thread rather than insult the posters with whom I disagree.

Interesting. When I saw the Tigers play in Bartow, after about 10 minutes of game time I realized that they were probably the most talented team that we had played that year (including FAU), but the worst coached by a pretty wide margin. I NEVER thought I'd see a team out-sloppy the Blazers, but Penny said hold my beer.

(02-10-2024 11:53 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 11:35 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 11:33 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 10:35 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(02-09-2024 01:25 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  A juicy (although false) narrative is like black mold - tough to kill

1st Half
In 16:44 (7-2 Tigers)
Out 14:44 (11-9 Tigers)

In 10:36 (17-13 Tigers)
Out 7:12 (26-16 Tigers)

In 58 Sec (45-27 Tigers)
Out end of half (45-27 Tigers)

2nd Half
In 13:48 (55-42 Tigers)
Out 9:19 (63-54 Tigers)

In 1:18 (76-70 Tigers)
Out 1:11 (76-70 Tigers)

In 54 Sec (77-70 Tigers)
Out game over (84-77 Tigers)

https://dxbhsrqyrr690.cloudfront.net/sid...345848.pdf

Rather than look at blanket scores you should probably go rewatch the game. The sub for David Jones at the beginning of the game, the sub at the end of the half, and the 2nd half sub midway where Temple blasted him several straight possessions and he pouted down the court absolutely killed our momentum and he got pulled quickly but the damage of him being on the court had already been done. We were on track to obliterate Temple and his insertion was an obvious turning point each time.

Ok, but it is inaccurate to state “ 3 large Temple* runs happened when Jayden was subbed in” . While Jayden played, the Tigers lost one net point.

JQ logged 39 minutes. Young was injured. Malcolm has stamina limitations. Jourdain (4) and Tomlin (fouled out) had foul trouble. The Tigers thrive on creating energy sapping turnovers (it worked - Tempe had seven more turnovers than Memphis). Who would you have substituted instead of Jayden keeping in mind Penny would have been roundly criticized had Pierre flopped?

IMO, Penny needs to shorten the rotation when feasible to build chemistry, but in the Temple game the main issue was missed free throws.

It is entirely accurate that Jayden's insertion led to Temple runs.

It is not accurate or at least causation cannot be quantified to my knowledge. There were possible other causes for the lapses after Jayden hit the bench including; others were subbed at the same time as Jayden, the team relaxed in general (a common occurrence unfortunately), and the players on the court during Temple’s run bear some responsibility.

Bruh did you even watch the game? lol...You aren't going to find anyone else arguing that Jayden wasn't directly responsible for several runs and terrible play. Disclaimer I am absolutely a Jayden hater because its way too obvious he has always sucked, but his play in this game was way too over the top even for me. Sure we missed a million free throws, but we likely wouldn't have been in that position if Penny's sons didn't play considering Walton was the only other player to post a negative game score.

(02-10-2024 12:06 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 11:53 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 11:35 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 11:33 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 10:35 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  Rather than look at blanket scores you should probably go rewatch the game. The sub for David Jones at the beginning of the game, the sub at the end of the half, and the 2nd half sub midway where Temple blasted him several straight possessions and he pouted down the court absolutely killed our momentum and he got pulled quickly but the damage of him being on the court had already been done. We were on track to obliterate Temple and his insertion was an obvious turning point each time.

Ok, but it is inaccurate to state “ 3 large Temple* runs happened when Jayden was subbed in” . While Jayden played, the Tigers lost one net point.

JQ logged 39 minutes. Young was injured. Malcolm has stamina limitations. Jourdain (4) and Tomlin (fouled out) had foul trouble. The Tigers thrive on creating energy sapping turnovers (it worked - Tempe had seven more turnovers than Memphis). Who would you have substituted instead of Jayden keeping in mind Penny would have been roundly criticized had Pierre flopped?

IMO, Penny needs to shorten the rotation when feasible to build chemistry, but in the Temple game the main issue was missed free throws.

It is entirely accurate that Jayden's insertion led to Temple runs.

It is not accurate or at least causation cannot be quantified to my knowledge. There were possible other causes for the lapses after Jayden hit the bench including; others were subbed at the same time as Jayden, the team relaxed in general (a common occurrence unfortunately), and the players on the court during Temple’s run bear some responsibility.

Bruh did you even watch the game? lol...You aren't going to find anyone else arguing that Jayden wasn't directly responsible for several runs and terrible play. Disclaimer I am absolutely a Jayden hater because its way too obvious he has always sucked, but his play in this game was way too over the top even for me. Sure we missed a million free throws, but we likely wouldn't have been in that position if Penny's sons didn't play considering Walton was the only other player to post a negative game score.

Employing the “argumentum ad populum” fallacy will not persuade me, sorry.

You have not offered an alternative to not playing Jayden in the Temple game. Any alternative is a venture into the unknown to at least some extent. What we do know is missed free throws cost the Tigers points and denied them a comfortable double digit margin.. When comparing the unknown with the known for causation, I usually go with the known.

BTW, I have watched nearly every Tiger game available to me for 50 years.

(02-10-2024 12:44 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 12:06 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 11:53 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 11:35 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 11:33 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Ok, but it is inaccurate to state “ 3 large Temple* runs happened when Jayden was subbed in” . While Jayden played, the Tigers lost one net point.

JQ logged 39 minutes. Young was injured. Malcolm has stamina limitations. Jourdain (4) and Tomlin (fouled out) had foul trouble. The Tigers thrive on creating energy sapping turnovers (it worked - Tempe had seven more turnovers than Memphis). Who would you have substituted instead of Jayden keeping in mind Penny would have been roundly criticized had Pierre flopped?

IMO, Penny needs to shorten the rotation when feasible to build chemistry, but in the Temple game the main issue was missed free throws.

It is entirely accurate that Jayden's insertion led to Temple runs.

It is not accurate or at least causation cannot be quantified to my knowledge. There were possible other causes for the lapses after Jayden hit the bench including; others were subbed at the same time as Jayden, the team relaxed in general (a common occurrence unfortunately), and the players on the court during Temple’s run bear some responsibility.

Bruh did you even watch the game? lol...You aren't going to find anyone else arguing that Jayden wasn't directly responsible for several runs and terrible play. Disclaimer I am absolutely a Jayden hater because its way too obvious he has always sucked, but his play in this game was way too over the top even for me. Sure we missed a million free throws, but we likely wouldn't have been in that position if Penny's sons didn't play considering Walton was the only other player to post a negative game score.

Employing the “argumentum ad populum” fallacy will not persuade me, sorry.

You have not offered an alternative to not playing Jayden in the Temple game. Any alternative is a venture into the unknown to at least some extent. What we do know is missed free throws cost the Tigers points and denied them a comfortable double digit margin.. When comparing the unknown with the known for causation, I usually go with the known.

BTW, I have watched nearly every Tiger game available to me for 50 years.

It isn't my job to convince you. Jayden was already the 2nd lowest rated player on the team in the metrics ahead of Ashton. He turned in the worst game on the team per said metrics, but your eyeballs should have told you that. Believe whatever your feelings say you should.

Did anyone watch this game?

(02-10-2024 12:49 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 12:44 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 12:06 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 11:53 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 11:35 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  It is entirely accurate that Jayden's insertion led to Temple runs.

It is not accurate or at least causation cannot be quantified to my knowledge. There were possible other causes for the lapses after Jayden hit the bench including; others were subbed at the same time as Jayden, the team relaxed in general (a common occurrence unfortunately), and the players on the court during Temple’s run bear some responsibility.

Bruh did you even watch the game? lol...You aren't going to find anyone else arguing that Jayden wasn't directly responsible for several runs and terrible play. Disclaimer I am absolutely a Jayden hater because its way too obvious he has always sucked, but his play in this game was way too over the top even for me. Sure we missed a million free throws, but we likely wouldn't have been in that position if Penny's sons didn't play considering Walton was the only other player to post a negative game score.

Employing the “argumentum ad populum” fallacy will not persuade me, sorry.

You have not offered an alternative to not playing Jayden in the Temple game. Any alternative is a venture into the unknown to at least some extent. What we do know is missed free throws cost the Tigers points and denied them a comfortable double digit margin.. When comparing the unknown with the known for causation, I usually go with the known.

BTW, I have watched nearly every Tiger game available to me for 50 years.

It isn't my job to convince you. Jayden was already the 2nd lowest rated player on the team in the metrics ahead of Ashton. He turned in the worst game on the team per said metrics, but your eyeballs should have told you that. Believe whatever your feelings say you should.

You are the one expressing hateful feelings, not me. I hate no one save the evil things evil people do.

You have not presented an alternative. Easy to criticize, hard to do….

Carry on.

(02-10-2024 12:49 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 12:44 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 12:06 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 11:53 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 11:35 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  It is entirely accurate that Jayden's insertion led to Temple runs.

It is not accurate or at least causation cannot be quantified to my knowledge. There were possible other causes for the lapses after Jayden hit the bench including; others were subbed at the same time as Jayden, the team relaxed in general (a common occurrence unfortunately), and the players on the court during Temple’s run bear some responsibility.

Bruh did you even watch the game? lol...You aren't going to find anyone else arguing that Jayden wasn't directly responsible for several runs and terrible play. Disclaimer I am absolutely a Jayden hater because its way too obvious he has always sucked, but his play in this game was way too over the top even for me. Sure we missed a million free throws, but we likely wouldn't have been in that position if Penny's sons didn't play considering Walton was the only other player to post a negative game score.

Employing the “argumentum ad populum” fallacy will not persuade me, sorry.

You have not offered an alternative to not playing Jayden in the Temple game. Any alternative is a venture into the unknown to at least some extent. What we do know is missed free throws cost the Tigers points and denied them a comfortable double digit margin.. When comparing the unknown with the known for causation, I usually go with the known.

BTW, I have watched nearly every Tiger game available to me for 50 years.

It isn't my job to convince you. Jayden was already the 2nd lowest rated player on the team in the metrics ahead of Ashton. He turned in the worst game on the team per said metrics, but your eyeballs should have told you that. Believe whatever your feelings say you should.

You are the one expressing hateful feelings, not me. I hate nothing save the evil things evil people do.

You have not presented an alternative. Easy to criticize, hard to do….

Carry on.

(02-10-2024 12:58 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  Did anyone watch this game?

Memphis fans did. Waiting for impending doom, lol.

(02-10-2024 01:37 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 12:49 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 12:44 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 12:06 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(02-10-2024 11:53 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  It is not accurate or at least causation cannot be quantified to my knowledge. There were possible other causes for the lapses after Jayden hit the bench including; others were subbed at the same time as Jayden, the team relaxed in general (a common occurrence unfortunately), and the players on the court during Temple’s run bear some responsibility.

Bruh did you even watch the game? lol...You aren't going to find anyone else arguing that Jayden wasn't directly responsible for several runs and terrible play. Disclaimer I am absolutely a Jayden hater because its way too obvious he has always sucked, but his play in this game was way too over the top even for me. Sure we missed a million free throws, but we likely wouldn't have been in that position if Penny's sons didn't play considering Walton was the only other player to post a negative game score.

Employing the “argumentum ad populum” fallacy will not persuade me, sorry.

You have not offered an alternative to not playing Jayden in the Temple game. Any alternative is a venture into the unknown to at least some extent. What we do know is missed free throws cost the Tigers points and denied them a comfortable double digit margin.. When comparing the unknown with the known for causation, I usually go with the known.

BTW, I have watched nearly every Tiger game available to me for 50 years.

It isn't my job to convince you. Jayden was already the 2nd lowest rated player on the team in the metrics ahead of Ashton. He turned in the worst game on the team per said metrics, but your eyeballs should have told you that. Believe whatever your feelings say you should.

You are the one expressing hateful feelings, not me. I hate nothing save the evil things evil people do.

You have not presented an alternative. Easy to criticize, hard to do….

Carry on.

"Hateful feelings" lol. Ok softy, take your participation trophy.