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(12-29-2023 01:51 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  My wife lost both her parents within a month in November. She didn’t think she could deal with Christmas morning without them for the first time in her life. So she and I took a relaxing trip to Charleston. Loved it…..but

I picked up Covid somewhere along the way. No Liberty Bowl and not likely for APSU. Thank goodness for chicken soup, big screen tvs and remote controls.

Happy New Year to all. Bright sky’s and joyful experiences for you all.

Sounds like the story of an anti-vaxxer. I've lost count to how many boosters I've had, even got the latest back in October. Since then I've travelled to the west cost, Mexico, and numerous Asian countries. I returned from my trip with a very mild frog in my throat which lasted for maybe a half week. That could have been covid or something else, but look.. the boosters paid off. The mild frog didn't affect me going to games, work, parties or anything. One night of a slight fever after some of the shots was well worth not having to deal with the full effects of getting covid, and I'm in my 50's. I'm surprised covid is even still a thing.
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(12-29-2023 08:21 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  
(12-29-2023 08:10 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(12-29-2023 07:33 PM)TylerTiger Wrote:  
(12-29-2023 06:02 PM)Crazier Wrote:  
(12-29-2023 05:58 PM)TylerTiger Wrote:  Bold to suggest “people who died were going to die with or without” based entirely on some hypothetical you’ve conspired to create to make yourself feel better about your position but, each to their own.

Did that hurt your feelings? This how I know most people are still reading information from 2021 about the shots. There's a reason the federal government back off the shots.

Didn’t hurt my feelings. Just think you’re an imbecile pulling crap out of your hat due to your lack of education. There is a reason - 70%+ are vaccinated and at least 80% have one shot. Herd immunity can handle the rest - like most vaccines tend to do. Now we just deal with updated vaccines like the Flu.

Now, go enjoy the win. I know I shall. Happy New Year!

Despite mountains of evidence that the "vaccine" is ineffective, and even potentially dangerous, people like you still spread fear through your irrational positions. Propagandists love people like you.

Only if you’re selective in who you read and believe. Propaganda exists on both sides of this issue. Lots of bad research and false claims came from the anti crowd.

If you don’t want to get a vax don’t. If I’m wrong it’s only on me. If you’re wrong then others can suffer. I tell atheists the same thing.

Issue I've seen is too many that rely on anecdotal evidence without proof of causality.

Using anecdotal evidence you can claim that water causes cancer because everyone over the age of 1 who's died from cancer has consumed water in some form.

Herd immunity works only by eliminating the weakest members of the herd.

Only those that survive gain antibody immunity.

Covid has constantly been ranked 4th in the US for cause of death.
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(12-29-2023 08:24 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(12-29-2023 08:07 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  
(12-29-2023 07:40 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  Why the eff is anyone still taking a covid test?

I have three young grandchildren. I’m out in the world around people with health issues. I treat it the same as the flu or stomach virus or any other ailment. Knowledge is power. If I can keep someone else from suffering I figure it is the right, smart and compassionate thing to do. Try it sometime.

That's all very noble but in the case of COVID, getting the mRNA shot, not a vaccine btw, doesn't stop you from becoming infected by the virus nor does it stop you from spreading it. If you truly feel that knowledge is power then you may wish to revisit your education (conditioning) regarding COVID.

But, you do you. I respect that you have a right to do with your body what you will.

I apologize for allowing myself to be sucked into a sidebar that has nothing to do with your in laws. Again, my condolences.

Loose terminology using vax. It’s a shot in the arm. Your description is unfortunately debatable. Anti Vader’s just need to pay attention to their own bodies and leave the rest alone.

Thanks for your condolences.
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(12-30-2023 04:42 AM)Indigo Wrote:  
(12-29-2023 01:51 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  My wife lost both her parents within a month in November. She didn’t think she could deal with Christmas morning without them for the first time in her life. So she and I took a relaxing trip to Charleston. Loved it…..but

I picked up Covid somewhere along the way. No Liberty Bowl and not likely for APSU. Thank goodness for chicken soup, big screen tvs and remote controls.

Happy New Year to all. Bright sky’s and joyful experiences for you all.

Sounds like the story of an anti-vaxxer. I've lost count to how many boosters I've had, even got the latest back in October. Since then I've travelled to the west cost, Mexico, and numerous Asian countries. I returned from my trip with a very mild frog in my throat which lasted for maybe a half week. That could have been covid or something else, but look.. the boosters paid off. The mild frog didn't affect me going to games, work, parties or anything. One night of a slight fever after some of the shots was well worth not having to deal with the full effects of getting covid, and I'm in my 50's. I'm surprised covid is even still a thing.

Wrong. I’ve had every booster. Not sure how got anti from the post other than jumping to conclusions.
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(12-30-2023 07:26 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  
(12-29-2023 08:24 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(12-29-2023 08:07 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  
(12-29-2023 07:40 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  Why the eff is anyone still taking a covid test?

I have three young grandchildren. I’m out in the world around people with health issues. I treat it the same as the flu or stomach virus or any other ailment. Knowledge is power. If I can keep someone else from suffering I figure it is the right, smart and compassionate thing to do. Try it sometime.

That's all very noble but in the case of COVID, getting the mRNA shot, not a vaccine btw, doesn't stop you from becoming infected by the virus nor does it stop you from spreading it. If you truly feel that knowledge is power then you may wish to revisit your education (conditioning) regarding COVID.

But, you do you. I respect that you have a right to do with your body what you will.

I apologize for allowing myself to be sucked into a sidebar that has nothing to do with your in laws. Again, my condolences.

Loose terminology using vax. It’s a shot in the arm. Your description is unfortunately debatable. Anti Vader’s just need to pay attention to their own bodies and leave the rest alone.

Thanks for your condolences.

I think that perhaps my reactions comes from all the abuse I took from people who were pressing me to get the jab. Now many of those same vaxxed people have had the virus multiple times with more serious consequences than I've faced as an "unvaxxed" after having it 4 times. I was told too many times that I was a danger to myself, my community and even to humanity itself. I was subjected to opinions that I and others like me should be barred from participating in any way in the public forum. I was told I shouldn't even be allowed out in public at all, no visits to the grocery store, need something from the pharmacy? Nah. You're unclean.

In short, otherwise rational and reasonable people suddenly became unhinged in their treatment of anyone who wasn't standing in line with them.

If I was a sensitive person I would still be offended by the treatment I received because I didn't get in line with the rest. Luckily I have very thick skin and I don't offend easily. But I do remember.

Your admonition that "Anti Vaxer’s just need to pay attention to their own bodies and leave the rest alone" is spot on. It equally applies to vax supporters as well. I completely agree that it's your body to unnecessarily pollute with untested pharmacology 05-stirthepot

Seriously though, I don't begrudge anyone who received any of the shots, it's not my business and certainly not my place to point a finger and deride someone for their decision. But, I can participate in a discussion on the topic and I can express my disagreement with the overall concept, correct? That's rhetorical btw as I know you'll agree that open discourse is a good thing.

There are some here, I don't believe you to be among them, who would seek to silence anyone with whom they disagree and I find that antithetical to a free and open society. This site is a microcosm of our nation as a whole so I think the same standards should apply.

Sorry for the rant.
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Sincere condolences. That's rough. I had covid for the third time in November. I had the first two shots but won't do it again. Our "leaders" say, "If you get vaccinated, you won't get covid. Period."

Rrrrrrrrriiiiiiiggggghhhttttt.
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The government trying to force everyone to get the shot is definitely one of the most frightening events of my lifetime.
They now try to talk around it or say they didn't try to force it on everyone but they did and they used flawed science to try and force it through.
No shots and never had Covid. Doctor has told me to never get an MRNA type shot.
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(12-30-2023 05:42 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(12-29-2023 08:21 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  
(12-29-2023 08:10 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(12-29-2023 07:33 PM)TylerTiger Wrote:  
(12-29-2023 06:02 PM)Crazier Wrote:  Did that hurt your feelings? This how I know most people are still reading information from 2021 about the shots. There's a reason the federal government back off the shots.

Didn’t hurt my feelings. Just think you’re an imbecile pulling crap out of your hat due to your lack of education. There is a reason - 70%+ are vaccinated and at least 80% have one shot. Herd immunity can handle the rest - like most vaccines tend to do. Now we just deal with updated vaccines like the Flu.

Now, go enjoy the win. I know I shall. Happy New Year!

Despite mountains of evidence that the "vaccine" is ineffective, and even potentially dangerous, people like you still spread fear through your irrational positions. Propagandists love people like you.

Only if you’re selective in who you read and believe. Propaganda exists on both sides of this issue. Lots of bad research and false claims came from the anti crowd.

If you don’t want to get a vax don’t. If I’m wrong it’s only on me. If you’re wrong then others can suffer. I tell atheists the same thing.

Issue I've seen is too many that rely on anecdotal evidence without proof of causality.

Using anecdotal evidence you can claim that water causes cancer because everyone over the age of 1 who's died from cancer has consumed water in some form.

Herd immunity works only by eliminating the weakest members of the herd.

Only those that survive gain antibody immunity.

Covid has constantly been ranked 4th in the US for cause of death.

skewered data.
We'll never really know how many people have died from Covid...as people who died from other issues but HAD Covid (even tho Covid was not the cause of their death) were counted as Covid deaths (early on anyway)
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(12-29-2023 08:50 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Starting to become the political board here even after a nice win.

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Starting ? It’s always been a political board. I’m sorry the OP lost his in laws but if everyone started a thread on here about lost relatives there wouldn’t be anything left. Is the OP more special that the rest of us? Once again my prayers to the family, but they both lived into their 90s. Go to St Jude and ask those kids if they’d take 90 plus years
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(12-30-2023 09:38 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  
(12-30-2023 05:42 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(12-29-2023 08:21 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  
(12-29-2023 08:10 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(12-29-2023 07:33 PM)TylerTiger Wrote:  Didn’t hurt my feelings. Just think you’re an imbecile pulling crap out of your hat due to your lack of education. There is a reason - 70%+ are vaccinated and at least 80% have one shot. Herd immunity can handle the rest - like most vaccines tend to do. Now we just deal with updated vaccines like the Flu.

Now, go enjoy the win. I know I shall. Happy New Year!

Despite mountains of evidence that the "vaccine" is ineffective, and even potentially dangerous, people like you still spread fear through your irrational positions. Propagandists love people like you.

Only if you’re selective in who you read and believe. Propaganda exists on both sides of this issue. Lots of bad research and false claims came from the anti crowd.

If you don’t want to get a vax don’t. If I’m wrong it’s only on me. If you’re wrong then others can suffer. I tell atheists the same thing.

Issue I've seen is too many that rely on anecdotal evidence without proof of causality.

Using anecdotal evidence you can claim that water causes cancer because everyone over the age of 1 who's died from cancer has consumed water in some form.

Herd immunity works only by eliminating the weakest members of the herd.

Only those that survive gain antibody immunity.

Covid has constantly been ranked 4th in the US for cause of death.

skewered data.
We'll never really know how many people have died from Covid...as people who died from other issues but HAD Covid (even tho Covid was not the cause of their death) were counted as Covid deaths (early on anyway)
Exactly. There’s no way of knowing how many healthy people died just because of Covid. If somebody had a comorbidity they were already struggling with and died with Covid you can’t say Covid killed them. If you have diabetes and are in ill health already there are numerous ailments that could kill you but they wouldn’t be the main reason.
Best thing to do is exercise and control what you can. Lose weight. Eat healthy. Unfortunately there’s nothing you can do about the main factor in whether people died or not and that’s age. There aren’t any Delorean time machines coming out.
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(12-30-2023 09:47 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
(12-29-2023 08:50 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Starting to become the political board here even after a nice win.

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Starting ? It’s always been a political board. I’m sorry the OP lost his in laws but if everyone started a thread on here about lost relatives there wouldn’t be anything left. Is the OP more special that the rest of us? Once again my prayers to the family, but they both lived into their 90s. Go to St Jude and ask those kids if they’d take 90 plus years

Bingo. You knocked it out of the park. Close it down.
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(12-30-2023 09:38 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  
(12-30-2023 05:42 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(12-29-2023 08:21 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  
(12-29-2023 08:10 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(12-29-2023 07:33 PM)TylerTiger Wrote:  Didn’t hurt my feelings. Just think you’re an imbecile pulling crap out of your hat due to your lack of education. There is a reason - 70%+ are vaccinated and at least 80% have one shot. Herd immunity can handle the rest - like most vaccines tend to do. Now we just deal with updated vaccines like the Flu.

Now, go enjoy the win. I know I shall. Happy New Year!

Despite mountains of evidence that the "vaccine" is ineffective, and even potentially dangerous, people like you still spread fear through your irrational positions. Propagandists love people like you.

Only if you’re selective in who you read and believe. Propaganda exists on both sides of this issue. Lots of bad research and false claims came from the anti crowd.

If you don’t want to get a vax don’t. If I’m wrong it’s only on me. If you’re wrong then others can suffer. I tell atheists the same thing.

Issue I've seen is too many that rely on anecdotal evidence without proof of causality.

Using anecdotal evidence you can claim that water causes cancer because everyone over the age of 1 who's died from cancer has consumed water in some form.

Herd immunity works only by eliminating the weakest members of the herd.

Only those that survive gain antibody immunity.

Covid has constantly been ranked 4th in the US for cause of death.

skewered data.
We'll never really know how many people have died from Covid...as people who died from other issues but HAD Covid (even tho Covid was not the cause of their death) were counted as Covid deaths (early on anyway)

There is a prime example of the misinformation that was put out.

Conspiracy kooks twisted what was actually said and spread the twisted information.

What was actually said that if a person with COVID dies, and YOU CANNOT FIND ANOTHER CAUSE OF DEATH then list it as a COVID death.

They did not list auto accident victims or gun shot victims as COVID deaths.
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(12-30-2023 01:48 AM)TylerTiger Wrote:  
(12-30-2023 12:04 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  
(12-29-2023 08:10 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(12-29-2023 07:33 PM)TylerTiger Wrote:  
(12-29-2023 06:02 PM)Crazier Wrote:  Did that hurt your feelings? This how I know most people are still reading information from 2021 about the shots. There's a reason the federal government back off the shots.

Didn’t hurt my feelings. Just think you’re an imbecile pulling crap out of your hat due to your lack of education. There is a reason - 70%+ are vaccinated and at least 80% have one shot. Herd immunity can handle the rest - like most vaccines tend to do. Now we just deal with updated vaccines like the Flu.

Now, go enjoy the win. I know I shall. Happy New Year!

Despite mountains of evidence that the "vaccine" is ineffective, and even potentially dangerous, people like you still spread fear through your irrational positions. Propagandists love people like you.

https://thehighwire.com/editorial/japane...-man-made/

Two problems:

1: The actual paper (which is linked) does not suggest the virus or any of its variants were synthesized or man-made. So using someone’s half-assed article on an opinion site is not research. (Even the study itself clarifies that is not the paper’s conclusion).

2: The study was also not peer-viewed. Zenodo (where it was published) is an open repository of papers and data.

Also, to TigerBlue4Ever - no one is pushing fear here. I’m telling you that they’re misinformed and trapped in a political bubble incapable of doing basic research because they’re uneducated on how to research (as EarthBoundMisfit performed wonderfully in showing). The vaccine isn’t ineffective. It does what it is intended to do - help spread protection against a novel virus. Anyone who thinks vaccines are meant to be 100% foolproof are not only morons, but devoid of any sense of historical understanding. That includes Democrats who tried to push it as 100%

But you’d rather live in your own personal biases than just deal with reason and reality, then peddle your bias as being rational and other people as irrational. I don’t care if you or anyone gets the vaccine. I do care when people use their political leanings to pinch hit for actual thought processes.
http://https://publichealthcollaborative...-man-made/

the men who put out that paper are well known, and respected in their field. rockstars
Think about the implication for a moment...why would you put a lifetime of work and peer respect on the line to publish something untrue?

Also you proved you did not read the papers when statements like this pervade it...

"The analysis showed that Omicron variants were formed by an entirely new mechanism that cannot be explained by previous biology, and knowing how the SARS CoV 2 variants were formed prompts a reconsideration of the SARS CoV 2 pandemic."

"Each variant is considered to have arisen through an independent evolutionary pathway from isolates with the D614G mutation in the S protein. Concerning the genetic variation in the S protein of these variants, most of the mutations were non synonymous (Fig. 1). There were no synonymous mutations in the Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, or Mu variants, but only one each in the Lambda and Omicron variants. Among these variants, the Omicron variant (BA.1 lineage), which shows the greatest accumulation of mutations in the S protein, is primarily non synonymous in the S protein and has only one synonymous mutation, at c25000u. The synonymous/non-synonymous ratio is abnormal, considering how human coronaviruses have mutated (See Supplemental Figure 1)"

Surprisingly, we found that Omicron BA.10.1 isolates were detected at all mutation sites except N501Y (Fig. 119
2A). In the BA.1 lineage of the Omicron variant, there are Omicron isolates (BA.1.1) with the R346K mutation seen in the Mu(m) variant (termed B.1.621),
i.e. BA.1_S can be defined as BA.1.1_S:K346R. We also performed a BLAST search for isolates with amino acid sequences of BA.10.1.1_S:OaaXXXWaa, as
described in Methods. As a result, Omicron BA.1.1 subset
0.1 isolates were detected at all mutation sites except S373P (Fig. 2B). Similar to the BA.1 lineage of the Omicron variant, in the BA.2 lineage of the Omicron variant,
isolates of BA.20.1 were found at all mutant sites except T478K and P681H in the S protein (Supplemental Figure 2). The presence of these isolates refutes the establishment of Omicron strains through a continuous evolutionary process by accumulating mutations. So, we could not determine which mutation occurred first or
last to form the Omicron variants. As shown in Fig. 2B, over half of the BA.1.10.1 isolates have the synonymous mutation c21595u detected in the S protein. However, this does not help explain the order in which the c21595u mutation arose. Curiously, in BA.1 strain isolates, this c21595u mutation was only detected in SARS CoV 2_human_USA_ID CDC LC0481844_2022 (GenBank: OM409228.1) and SARS CoV-
2_human_USA_MI CDC ASC210597972_2022 (GenBank: OM396816.1).
These isolates commonly lack the G339D mutation. This synonymous mutation is in a mutation prone hotspot location. Still, if the same mutation occurred independently in different isolates, it is highly unnatural for the proportion of c21595u occurrences to be significantly biased in the Omicron variants BA.1.1 0.1

"These results suggest that the establishment of BA.10.1 and BA.1.10.1 isolates
occurred independently. On the other hand, if reversion mutations caused each of these isolates with one amino acid different to the Wuhan type, these isolates could be detected by examining an astronomical number of isolates.
However, these virus strains were detected in the number of sequenced whole genomes (a limited number), rather than in astronomical numbers examined. The fact that most of these mutations occurred without synonymous mutations (Fig. 2) suggests that none of them arose as a result of trial and error random mutations in nature."

"Despite the accumulation of many mutations in the S protein of Omicron mutants, most of the mutations are non-synonymous, with only one synonymous mutation of c25000u, which is highly unnatural, leading to the hypothesis that the Omicron mutants were artificially synthesized. The following results presented in this study may support the hypothesis that the Omicron variants were artificially synthesized rather than naturally occurring"

I could post more....but we already know you did not read it...so what would be the point?


Whatever your belief, viruses mutate in a pretty standard way. Virologists can pinpoint the genetic branches of each virus, and see how it differs from an earlier or later variant of said virus. When they say that they cannot tell which variant came first because variants SHOULD have the same genetic structure for the most part...but in this instance they didn't, then you know something isn't right.
When you keep seeing the words 'unnatural' and 'abnormal' pop up in a virology paper, take note...because they don't make many appearances in a truly natural virus study.
When you see the phrase "suggests that none of them arose as a result of trial and error random mutations in nature."...that in itself suggests man-made.
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I can't believe people are still arguing over covid. Amazing.
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It is not difficult if people just step back and look...
Follow the power grab
Follow the money
Do not follow the hysteria

The fact that the government took such extreme measures in an attempt to indiscriminately force a vaccine on the entire population without knowing any side or long-term effects should scare the piss out of anyone. They shut down businesses (small businesses, the big money people got to stay open and get richer), they forced people to stay home, they shut down our entire education system, they attempted to bar people without shots from traveling (and successfully did on some levels), they conspired with the major social media outlets to sensor information that was counter to what they were pushing, they openly demonized people who questioned the shots and encouraged us as people to demonize and ostracize those that did not follow the government orders. It is quite sad that it is really never discussed how many people lost their businesses, jobs, and livelihoods due to government forced shutdowns. We never discuss at length or in depth the unbelievable negative impact the shut down had and will continue to have on millions of our children's education. It does not take a nutty conspiracy theorist to sit back and recognize that is not the agenda of a government working in the best interest of the greater population.
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RE: Covid strikes again.
All of the above.

But it might be the first time big Pharma and Gov united as one

In my industry we have been Fighting with the FDA and big Pharma for decades.

At one point the fda coupled with big Pharma tried to take vitamin c off the market and make it a prescription.

This is just the first time most of you have noticed the real focus —- money and power drive the bus

Don’t let it drive you into a raging lunatic on either side. lol. We immediately have much less power to make changes when we splinter into groups of haters.
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RE: Covid strikes again.
(12-30-2023 11:34 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  


Innocence made fools out of us all.
lol
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