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(04-18-2024 09:55 AM)b2b Wrote:  This seems to be more about how they're classifying R1 than it does any sort of higher performance at the 3 schools.

clt isn't sure about ecu or fau, but Charlotte is growing research $ and programs
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(04-17-2024 02:39 PM)PSCNiner Wrote:  
(04-17-2024 10:25 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
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(04-16-2024 11:36 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  I think we’ve been R2 for around 30 years, pirates correct me if I’m wrong. Wasn’t a primary focus of the university until recently from what I’ve been told. So probably since Dr Roger’s took over that it was moved to the front of other priorities I’m guessing. So maybe 4 or 5 years max?

Spot on. The mission of the University has been to serve an underfunded and often ignored region of the state of NC that has been impacted by adversely.

Dr. Rogers who is a son of ENC has done a fantastic job that is starting to pay dividends impacting the region and the University. Whether it's his leadership of the AAC, work with Carnegie, work with Intersect East, or Mr. Beast he is very effective leader who will advance East Carolina and ENC.

His second time at ECU in a leadership role as well so he has a wholistic knowledge of ECU’s mission, history, and operating environment. His wife is a double ECU alum and adjunct professor and comes from an ECU family. They’re ECU people and they honestly care about the University. And what you see is really who they are, they’re very grounded and genuine. IMHO ECU has not been in a better position from a leadership standpoint since Leo Jenkins. And we all know Leo’s legacy. Hell the entire UNC system outside of the evil twins in the Triangle owe their university status to Leo and his fight for university status for ECU.

Uhh, not Charlotte (or UNCG) as we were both in the UNC System well before ECU.

Ok buddy hope you feel better 03-lmfao

Thats a pretty lame response. I'm sorry it upset you that I corrected your false statement.
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(04-18-2024 10:55 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  
(04-18-2024 09:55 AM)b2b Wrote:  This seems to be more about how they're classifying R1 than it does any sort of higher performance at the 3 schools.

clt isn't sure about ecu or fau, but Charlotte is growing research $ and programs

Hyster-Yale in connection with Intersect East and ECU recently announced a 6 acre research facility that is going to attract lots of research dollars in partnership with ECU.
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clt says 6 acres? is that an ant research facility?
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(04-19-2024 06:48 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says 6 acres? is that an ant research facility?

Perhaps it will be 100 stories tall.
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(04-19-2024 08:10 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  
(04-19-2024 06:48 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says 6 acres? is that an ant research facility?

Perhaps it will be 100 stories tall.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=w...1AZeRnn4GF

Above is a link. Hyster-Yale is leasing 53,400 square feet and the facility will house their consolidated research division located directly across from ECU's new BioTech facility. It will employ 120 and locally they employ 1400 in their North American manufacturing facility already in Greenville.
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(04-19-2024 08:28 AM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  
(04-19-2024 08:10 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  
(04-19-2024 06:48 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says 6 acres? is that an ant research facility?

Perhaps it will be 100 stories tall.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=w...1AZeRnn4GF

Above is a link. Hyster-Yale is leasing 53,400 square feet and the facility will house their consolidated research division located directly across from ECU's new BioTech facility. It will employ 120 and locally they employ 1400 in their North American manufacturing facility already in Greenville.

Hyster Yale is a big, global company building truck lifts (think forklifts). That industry is moving to robotics so I am sure that research is a key part of their process, and they have a plant where they build the forklifts in Greenville, NC, just on the other side of the airport from the ECU campus. As a North Carolinian, I am happy for this.

Hyster Yale has their Experience Center in Charlotte where they bring dealers and employees for education and events.
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(04-19-2024 06:48 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says 6 acres? is that an ant research facility?


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(04-19-2024 02:52 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  
(04-19-2024 08:28 AM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  
(04-19-2024 08:10 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  
(04-19-2024 06:48 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says 6 acres? is that an ant research facility?

Perhaps it will be 100 stories tall.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=w...1AZeRnn4GF

Above is a link. Hyster-Yale is leasing 53,400 square feet and the facility will house their consolidated research division located directly across from ECU's new BioTech facility. It will employ 120 and locally they employ 1400 in their North American manufacturing facility already in Greenville.

Hyster Yale is a big, global company building truck lifts (think forklifts). That industry is moving to robotics so I am sure that research is a key part of their process, and they have a plant where they build the forklifts in Greenville, NC, just on the other side of the airport from the ECU campus. As a North Carolinian, I am happy for this.

Hyster Yale has their Experience Center in Charlotte where they bring dealers and employees for education and events.

I learned how to use a fork on a Hyster. Smelled like a ***** but a good forklift. Not as good as the Toyota but good nonetheless.
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(04-18-2024 01:45 PM)PSCNiner Wrote:  
(04-17-2024 04:45 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(04-17-2024 02:39 PM)PSCNiner Wrote:  
(04-17-2024 10:25 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(04-16-2024 01:16 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  Spot on. The mission of the University has been to serve an underfunded and often ignored region of the state of NC that has been impacted by adversely.

Dr. Rogers who is a son of ENC has done a fantastic job that is starting to pay dividends impacting the region and the University. Whether it's his leadership of the AAC, work with Carnegie, work with Intersect East, or Mr. Beast he is very effective leader who will advance East Carolina and ENC.

His second time at ECU in a leadership role as well so he has a wholistic knowledge of ECU’s mission, history, and operating environment. His wife is a double ECU alum and adjunct professor and comes from an ECU family. They’re ECU people and they honestly care about the University. And what you see is really who they are, they’re very grounded and genuine. IMHO ECU has not been in a better position from a leadership standpoint since Leo Jenkins. And we all know Leo’s legacy. Hell the entire UNC system outside of the evil twins in the Triangle owe their university status to Leo and his fight for university status for ECU.

Uhh, not Charlotte (or UNCG) as we were both in the UNC System well before ECU.

Ok buddy hope you feel better 03-lmfao

Thats a pretty lame response. I'm sorry it upset you that I corrected your false statement.

I wasn’t upset because it doesn’t matter when it happened for either school or any other UNC school for that matter. I simply misspoke because I didn’t have all of the contextual information because I don’t give a **** enough to look it up and I still don’t. It wasn’t said with malice. I was simply talking about a chancellor we had in the 60’s that was literally at war with the university system and the state legislature for his entire tenure.

FYI, I as the OP extended congrats to your school on gaining R1. I didn’t have to
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This is one example of the uphill battle East Carolina has faced with Chapel Hill, this particular account about gaining university status. I say Chapel Hill because the main characters here opposing East Carolina were Gov. Dan Moore, future State Supreme Court Justice, Jim Exum, Watts Hill, Jr.-chairman of the Board of Higher Education and Bill Friday-first president of the UNC system, all UNC alumni.

From a 2007 interview with Sen. Robert Morgan...

Quote:Morgan soon found out there were some powerful interests plotting against the bill’s ultimate passage.

“I came home from Raleigh one night,” he recalled. “We all stayed in the old Sir Walter Hotel and when I got back about midnight, there was a car sitting in front of the Sir Walter Hotel. There was a black lady, Dr. Helen Edmonds, who was a professor at North Carolina Central and really a renowned expert in international affairs.

“I can’t remember the black gentleman’s name, but they were two of the three people who were running North Carolina Central in the absence of a president, while they were searching for a president.”

Morgan was about to learn how devious, intense and nasty the efforts had become to suppress East Carolina’s bid to become a university.

“Dr. Edmonds said to me, she said, ‘I promised myself last night that I wouldn’t put my head on a pillow again until I told you what they’re trying to do to you. They had a meeting in the Governor’s office with Governor Moore, with Watts Hill, Jr., and the President of the university, Dr. Friday’ – (aside) we’re good friends (Morgan and Friday) now after all these years.”

“She said they had a meeting on how to defeat East Carolina’s efforts to be a university. They said to the Governor that they should send out a message to all of the black colleges – the Governor and Watts Hill, Jr., as chairman of the board of higher education to all of the black colleges – North Carolina Central, Elizabeth City State, A&T in Greensboro, etc., directing them to ask that they put the black colleges in it, too.

“See, we’d already passed it in the Senate. She went on to say, ‘At North Carolina Central, we refuse to do it because we knew they were not interested in us in improving our education. They were just interested in using us to kill East Carolina’s efforts,’ because – you know – black feeling was still pretty strong in ‘67.

“The premise was Senator Morgan will never agree to accept black institutions as part of the regional university concept and that will kill East Carolina’s efforts to be a university and it will get rid of Morgan as a politician, too.”

Morgan shared what he had been told of the plan with Jenkins.

“We decided the best thing to do was do nothing right then because we’d already passed it in the Senate,” Morgan said. “Well, the next day when it was in the House on the second reading, Jim Exum, who was the representative from Greensboro who was later Chief Justice of the (state) Supreme Court, and Mr. Phillips, who was a representative there, introduced an amendment to add A&T – the other black colleges wouldn’t do it – to the regional university concept.

“It was a big debate and the House adjourned about 3 o’clock.”

Morgan was waiting outside to talk with Exum.

“I said, ‘Now Jim, before we go out here to this meeting, let’s count our votes now. Let’s make sure we’ve got enough votes to pass this on the third reading tomorrow.’ He said, ‘I’m not going to vote for it tomorrow. I’m going to vote against it tomorrow.’ I said, ‘Jim.’ He said, ‘I added that because I knew you wouldn’t accept it and that’s the way to kill the bill.’
“I said, ‘Jim, you are a racist SOB.’ I don’t usually use that phrase – that’s the only time I used it that I know of. I said, ‘I knew what you were doing all the time.’ I said, ‘I had that information. You did it thinking you were going to destroy East Carolina’s bill.’ But I said, ‘Let me tell you something. A&T is going to be a university tomorrow – whether you want it or not – because we’ve got the votes to pass it.’ “

Morgan said the House passed the amended bill the following day and sent it back to the Senate to approve the addition of A&T. Morgan said the bill received final approval on July 1, 1967. Morgan said he made the only speech of his legislative career from the Senate podium, welcoming A&T to university status, along with East Carolina, because both institutions knew what it was like to deal with bias.
https://bonesvillemedia.com/the-battle-f...tells-all/

It's been the same fight for everything ECU had to build including the medical school, dental school, nursing school, etc.
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(04-22-2024 12:06 AM)mikeinoki Wrote:  This is one example of the uphill battle East Carolina has faced with Chapel Hill, this particular account about gaining university status. I say Chapel Hill because the main characters here opposing East Carolina were Gov. Dan Moore, future State Supreme Court Justice, Jim Exum, Watts Hill, Jr.-chairman of the Board of Higher Education and Bill Friday-first president of the UNC system, all UNC alumni.

From a 2007 interview with Sen. Robert Morgan...

Quote:Morgan soon found out there were some powerful interests plotting against the bill’s ultimate passage.

“I came home from Raleigh one night,” he recalled. “We all stayed in the old Sir Walter Hotel and when I got back about midnight, there was a car sitting in front of the Sir Walter Hotel. There was a black lady, Dr. Helen Edmonds, who was a professor at North Carolina Central and really a renowned expert in international affairs.

“I can’t remember the black gentleman’s name, but they were two of the three people who were running North Carolina Central in the absence of a president, while they were searching for a president.”

Morgan was about to learn how devious, intense and nasty the efforts had become to suppress East Carolina’s bid to become a university.

“Dr. Edmonds said to me, she said, ‘I promised myself last night that I wouldn’t put my head on a pillow again until I told you what they’re trying to do to you. They had a meeting in the Governor’s office with Governor Moore, with Watts Hill, Jr., and the President of the university, Dr. Friday’ – (aside) we’re good friends (Morgan and Friday) now after all these years.”

“She said they had a meeting on how to defeat East Carolina’s efforts to be a university. They said to the Governor that they should send out a message to all of the black colleges – the Governor and Watts Hill, Jr., as chairman of the board of higher education to all of the black colleges – North Carolina Central, Elizabeth City State, A&T in Greensboro, etc., directing them to ask that they put the black colleges in it, too.

“See, we’d already passed it in the Senate. She went on to say, ‘At North Carolina Central, we refuse to do it because we knew they were not interested in us in improving our education. They were just interested in using us to kill East Carolina’s efforts,’ because – you know – black feeling was still pretty strong in ‘67.

“The premise was Senator Morgan will never agree to accept black institutions as part of the regional university concept and that will kill East Carolina’s efforts to be a university and it will get rid of Morgan as a politician, too.”

Morgan shared what he had been told of the plan with Jenkins.

“We decided the best thing to do was do nothing right then because we’d already passed it in the Senate,” Morgan said. “Well, the next day when it was in the House on the second reading, Jim Exum, who was the representative from Greensboro who was later Chief Justice of the (state) Supreme Court, and Mr. Phillips, who was a representative there, introduced an amendment to add A&T – the other black colleges wouldn’t do it – to the regional university concept.

“It was a big debate and the House adjourned about 3 o’clock.”

Morgan was waiting outside to talk with Exum.

“I said, ‘Now Jim, before we go out here to this meeting, let’s count our votes now. Let’s make sure we’ve got enough votes to pass this on the third reading tomorrow.’ He said, ‘I’m not going to vote for it tomorrow. I’m going to vote against it tomorrow.’ I said, ‘Jim.’ He said, ‘I added that because I knew you wouldn’t accept it and that’s the way to kill the bill.’
“I said, ‘Jim, you are a racist SOB.’ I don’t usually use that phrase – that’s the only time I used it that I know of. I said, ‘I knew what you were doing all the time.’ I said, ‘I had that information. You did it thinking you were going to destroy East Carolina’s bill.’ But I said, ‘Let me tell you something. A&T is going to be a university tomorrow – whether you want it or not – because we’ve got the votes to pass it.’ “

Morgan said the House passed the amended bill the following day and sent it back to the Senate to approve the addition of A&T. Morgan said the bill received final approval on July 1, 1967. Morgan said he made the only speech of his legislative career from the Senate podium, welcoming A&T to university status, along with East Carolina, because both institutions knew what it was like to deal with bias.
https://bonesvillemedia.com/the-battle-f...tells-all/

It's been the same fight for everything ECU had to build including the medical school, dental school, nursing school, etc.

1967, kind of blows up the well before ECU bullshite don’t it….

Morgan is every bit the legend Jenkins is and deserves more credit in the ECU “mythology”. Thanks for sharing, I hadn’t seen that particular accounting of the events before. Good stuff.
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Congrats to those three schools
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(04-22-2024 07:50 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  1967, kind of blows up the well before ECU bullshite don’t it….

Morgan is every bit the legend Jenkins is and deserves more credit in the ECU “mythology”. Thanks for sharing, I hadn’t seen that particular accounting of the events before. Good stuff.

This is long, but lots of info about UNC's efforts to stop the creation of the medical school. From "William Friday: Power, Purpose, and American Higher Education" in the chapter "The East Carolina Challenge." It's a Google Books preview, but most of it is there.

https://books.google.com/books?id=CZD4AA...&q&f=false
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(04-22-2024 04:52 PM)mikeinoki Wrote:  
(04-22-2024 07:50 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  1967, kind of blows up the well before ECU bullshite don’t it….

Morgan is every bit the legend Jenkins is and deserves more credit in the ECU “mythology”. Thanks for sharing, I hadn’t seen that particular accounting of the events before. Good stuff.

This is long, but lots of info about UNC's efforts to stop the creation of the medical school. From "William Friday: Power, Purpose, and American Higher Education" in the chapter "The East Carolina Challenge." It's a Google Books preview, but most of it is there.

https://books.google.com/books?id=CZD4AA...&q&f=false

Great read. Thank you for sharing that
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(04-19-2024 02:52 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  
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(04-19-2024 06:48 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says 6 acres? is that an ant research facility?

Perhaps it will be 100 stories tall.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=w...1AZeRnn4GF

Above is a link. Hyster-Yale is leasing 53,400 square feet and the facility will house their consolidated research division located directly across from ECU's new BioTech facility. It will employ 120 and locally they employ 1400 in their North American manufacturing facility already in Greenville.

Hyster Yale is a big, global company building truck lifts (think forklifts). That industry is moving to robotics so I am sure that research is a key part of their process, and they have a plant where they build the forklifts in Greenville, NC, just on the other side of the airport from the ECU campus. As a North Carolinian, I am happy for this.

Hyster Yale has their Experience Center in Charlotte where they bring dealers and employees for education and events.

The automated fork truck industry is bigger than many even know. It began in 1956, and Charlotte holds a big presence in the industry (multiple companies located in Charlotte) with many grads working in it. I am a big fan of Hyster Yale in Greenville as I designed and installed one of their automated production lines and have supplied manufacturing support equipment there for many years. Great people working there.

I think it is important for the state of NC economically to have both Charlotte and ECU reach R1 status.
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(04-24-2024 04:43 AM)Dowless Wrote:  
(04-19-2024 02:52 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  
(04-19-2024 08:28 AM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  
(04-19-2024 08:10 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  
(04-19-2024 06:48 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says 6 acres? is that an ant research facility?

Perhaps it will be 100 stories tall.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=w...1AZeRnn4GF

Above is a link. Hyster-Yale is leasing 53,400 square feet and the facility will house their consolidated research division located directly across from ECU's new BioTech facility. It will employ 120 and locally they employ 1400 in their North American manufacturing facility already in Greenville.

Hyster Yale is a big, global company building truck lifts (think forklifts). That industry is moving to robotics so I am sure that research is a key part of their process, and they have a plant where they build the forklifts in Greenville, NC, just on the other side of the airport from the ECU campus. As a North Carolinian, I am happy for this.

Hyster Yale has their Experience Center in Charlotte where they bring dealers and employees for education and events.

The automated fork truck industry is bigger than many even know. It began in 1956, and Charlotte holds a big presence in the industry (multiple companies located in Charlotte) with many grads working in it. I am a big fan of Hyster Yale in Greenville as I designed and installed one of their automated production lines and have supplied manufacturing support equipment there for many years. Great people working there.

I think it is important for the state of NC economically to have both Charlotte and ECU reach R1 status.

It is important for both as UNC system schools and indeed why I offered congrats as the OP. IMHO it is a big win considering the headwinds always blowing out of the triangle for other UNC schools even if largely symbolic from a prestige standpoint considering it simply reflects the amount of research conducted.
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clt says a UNC CHeat grad told us that if we wanted football, we should pull for them

that didn't go well
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