(10-29-2023 11:08 AM)R40 Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 11:06 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 11:00 AM)R40 Wrote:  There is one other possibility that you do not realize. You can't read.

I don't support any team. I just follow college football.

Good for you. Since you've only ever posted on the CUSA Board, it does beg the question about you allegiances. I'm sure the numerous other boards would benefit greatly from your intellect and deep football knowledge.

Yes, they would. They would not like it any better than you do though.

Right you are. My cup runneth over with pure enlightenment from your posts.

Can we get a mod for this R40 guy?

(10-29-2023 11:12 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 11:08 AM)R40 Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 11:06 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 11:00 AM)R40 Wrote:  There is one other possibility that you do not realize. You can't read.

I don't support any team. I just follow college football.

Good for you. Since you've only ever posted on the CUSA Board, it does beg the question about you allegiances. I'm sure the numerous other boards would benefit greatly from your intellect and deep football knowledge.

Yes, they would. They would not like it any better than you do though.

Right you are. My cup runneth over with pure enlightenment from your posts.

We have something in common.

WKU and MTSU had an opportunity to go to the MAC but did not want to.

No, they didn't!!! They had an opportunity to go to the MAC but THEY DIDN'T WANT TO!!!

Ok, fine.

(10-29-2023 11:15 AM)smith79jordan Wrote:  Can we get a mod for this R40 guy?

Just ignore his posts.

(10-29-2023 11:15 AM)R40 Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 11:12 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 11:08 AM)R40 Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 11:06 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 11:00 AM)R40 Wrote:  There is one other possibility that you do not realize. You can't read.

I don't support any team. I just follow college football.

Good for you. Since you've only ever posted on the CUSA Board, it does beg the question about you allegiances. I'm sure the numerous other boards would benefit greatly from your intellect and deep football knowledge.

Yes, they would. They would not like it any better than you do though.

Right you are. My cup runneth over with pure enlightenment from your posts.

We have something in common.

WKU and MTSU had an opportunity to go to the MAC but did not want to.

No, they didn't!!! They had an opportunity to go to the MAC but THEY DIDN'T WANT TO!!!

Ok, fine.

WKU wanted to go to the MAC. MTSU did not want to. Big difference there.

(10-29-2023 08:48 AM)R40 Wrote:  If they wanted Delaware, why didn't they just bring them in to begin with and bring Kennesaw later? Delaware is a MAC school. MTSU and WKU both turned down the MAC because they don't want to play Delawares. Maybe they are willing to do it every other year with one team. Delaware adds nothing to the league unless they want more games for TV. They are already playing two games at the same time. They don't have room for more games unless a team is really going to bring something.

This conference has made some really smart decisions. I can't see it but would never rule anything out in this weird world of college football.

You don't know what you are talking about. Stick to Tarleton/Texas info.

Interesting fact.

UMASS is only a 5H 15m bus ride from the University of Delaware (UD).

UD may be MORE open to joining CUSA in all sports with UMASS coming along---- vice versa for UMASS.

WKU wanted to got to the MAC because CUSA at the time was falling apart. MTSU did not want to go to the MAC because the MAC wanted WKU and MTSU to say in the conference for 25 years. MAC wanted 2 schools or no schools they had to come as a pair.

(10-29-2023 04:42 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Interesting fact.

UMASS is only a 5H 15m bus ride from the University of Delaware (UD).

UD may be MORE open to joining CUSA in all sports with UMASS coming along---- vice versa for UMASS.

I think this would be a HR for CUSA, to the point I think UMASS all sports would be a solid add for any G5 conference (sans MWC). I'm not very familiar with Deleware athletics but it's a very good academic school that is the university of a US president. How many G5 schools can claim that?

(10-29-2023 05:18 PM)BlazintheAtl1 Wrote:  

(10-29-2023 04:42 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Interesting fact.

UMASS is only a 5H 15m bus ride from the University of Delaware (UD).

UD may be MORE open to joining CUSA in all sports with UMASS coming along---- vice versa for UMASS.

I think this would be a HR for CUSA, to the point I think UMASS all sports would be a solid add for any G5 conference (sans MWC). I'm not very familiar with Deleware athletics but it's a very good academic school that is the university of a US president. How many G5 schools can claim that?

UMASS would be grounding into a double play down by a run in the bottom of the ninth. They suck in football and basketball is mediocre. Lobby for them to get into the AAC if you love them that much.

(10-29-2023 08:42 AM)SlyFox Wrote:  Let the record show that I was voice crying in the wilderness for Delaware consideration on this forum not that long ago. They are easily the best candidate even with their geographic challenges.

Keep in mind that UD fans live in a tiny bubble where ging south of DC or north of Penn State or, heaven forbid, west of the Philly suburbs is so far from beyond their current realities in life. Why else would they live in that state in the first place? So the idea of flying teams to Las Cruces or El Paso might as well be Bangkok or Sydney in their minds. When you are used to having every team in your league in short driving distance, it takes a paradigm shift in thinking. As most everyone on here has learned as you moved from tight regional leagues to CUSA, it is an adjustment. But one that most all of us would acknowledge was worth the pain points.

Yes. You were correct. I just had doubts at the time (and still do) about Delaware being interested in CUSA.

IMO CUSA would take Delaware.

But--will THEY say yes? Geography, Cultural fit, etc..

The collapse of the CAA around them plus the big success of neighbor JMU (and Liberty) along with the recently watered down fcs division has spurred their interest even more in FBS.

The SBC is full and not interested.

The MAC is slow to decide and requires another team to "pair-up".

CUSA says, YES.

It all comes down to how Bad and how Soon they want FBS from my viewpoint.

In case you missed it. Here are some statistics with a few revisions.

University of DELAWARE

--land grant, sea grant, and space grant university, Newark, Delaware--not far from Philadelphia

-- 35 minutes from Philadelphia Intl. Airport

-- 4H 45m trip average from Liberty (possible travel partner)

--Enrollment--22,000

--R1 University, ranked #76-- US News

--Delaware, 2020 Census--population increase 10.2%

-- Media market--#4 in U.S.

ATHLETIC BUDGET/Revenue>> 48M--- 1st in FCS

FCS playoffs (last decade only); 3-3, '18, '20, '22; 2003 FCS Champs, Three time FCS Runner-Up

Football Attendance-- 2022--16,900 --8th in FCS

Athletic Ticket Revenue--1.6M -- 9th in FCS

Facilities-- Excellent currently And a proposed 85M end zone facility and IPF close to approval

Current Rank (as of 10-23) -- 5th in FCS (7-1), 1st in CAA

nickname- Blue Hens

short reference- "UD"

5H trip average to UMASS

Delaware doesnt have a perfect fit in any conference. AAC would be their best but its already big. The 3 which keep coming up CUSA, MAC or SBC all have issues. MAC is a ways to most schools as is CUSA. SBC does have a few schools somewhat close. Just nothing looks like a slamdunk.

Just wondering if Delaware is choosing between the MAC and CUSA, would the MAC demand they agree to the same type of GOR they had reportedly asked WKU/MTSU sign? My guess is if true, that helps CUSA.

Other than academics, not sure the MAC is a better fit for Delaware.
Is CUSA looking for more than Delaware in the Mid NE to NE? If 3 others are coming along it may make CUSA the oblivous option.

The good thing is that whether they do or don’t join, CUSA will be just fine. It’s not like last time when we were on life support. More teams would be great, but we can thrive without them.

#invitethefightingbluehensminutemencolonelsbearstocusa

(10-30-2023 09:20 AM)army56mike Wrote:  More teams would be great

I'm not trolling here, I"m really asking, but why?

Why would more teams be great?

Count me among those folks who have always felt Delaware and UMass have great potential in sports. Whether either or both would be appropriate additions to CUSA 4.0 is really a BIG UNKNOWN!!!

(10-30-2023 06:50 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Delaware doesnt have a perfect fit in any conference. AAC would be their best but its already big. The 3 which keep coming up CUSA, MAC or SBC all have issues. MAC is a ways to most schools as is CUSA. SBC does have a few schools somewhat close. Just nothing looks like a slamdunk.

As a WKU fan--I can understand--we are a border state. You just have to do the best you can--this is why UD is taking a strong look at CUSA. We Might be their only choice at this moment.

(10-30-2023 07:07 AM)Baldspot Wrote:  Just wondering if Delaware is choosing between the MAC and CUSA, would the MAC demand they agree to the same type of GOR they had reportedly asked WKU/MTSU sign? My guess is if true, that helps CUSA.

MAC is very leery of losing teams. They will insist on a long GOR. IMO that helps CUSA.

(10-30-2023 07:49 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Other than academics, not sure the MAC is a better fit for Delaware.
Is CUSA looking for more than Delaware in the Mid NE to NE? If 3 others are coming along it may make CUSA the obvious option.

ONE other may be coming along--but I doubt it. UMASS?? I think CUSA is determined Not to go above twelve.

(10-30-2023 09:20 AM)army56mike Wrote:  The good thing is that whether they do or don’t join, CUSA will be just fine. It’s not like last time when we were on life support. More teams would be great, but we can thrive without them.

I concur. Ten is fine for now if nobody joins.

Delaware should have a standing invite and better have had it since the fall of 2021, or CUSA is unserious about climbing back up the G5 football hierarchy. All sports, fb-only is acceptable if that’s their stipulation (why would it be given the current state of the CAA), but preferably all sports.

They’re the only FCS school that would raise the profile of the league upon entry.

I still don’t believe they’d actually join CUSA due to academic snobbery and unfamiliarity of opponents/schools. But many here predicted that they’d sour on the new CAA, and that seems to be coming to fruiting faster than expected. Maybe this is a step. Let’s just hope the SBC or AAC don’t have interest and the Hens really are ready to take the plunge they’ve turned away from for years.

Would rather pair UD with EKU, Mo State, SFA, or nobody else at all than UMass.