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RE: Where Does EMu Basketball Go Moving Forward?
(03-06-2023 03:08 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(03-06-2023 01:12 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(03-06-2023 12:40 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  im concerned acuff may leave.

Maybe he sits a year and goes to UofD. Kampe wouldn’t take him because Oakland plays O and D

Splaining: I commented on this in Steve’s player movement thread if you are interested.

Luckey: is TyCuff a D2 player? Why are you so hard on him for a couple missed plays? … You have just been “Wrathed by FanBoy” 03-lmfao

Never said he was a D2 player just not a good D1 defensive player.
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(03-06-2023 08:00 AM)EagleSam Wrote:  
(03-05-2023 08:00 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(03-05-2023 07:39 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  
(03-05-2023 07:30 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(03-05-2023 06:46 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  I applaud BGSU!!


Post: #21RE: Final Day of the Men's Regular Season
BGSU fired head coach Michael Huger with 2 years left on his contract.

EMU must fire Heath!

Heath has been at EMU only two years. Don't fire established coach after two years.

The only time a coach is fired after two seasons is an unproven coach who is hired and clearly over his head. Heath was the G-League coach of the year two years ago so he is hardly someone EMU got from the D-II ranks who has never coached at the higher ranks.
He's 18-44 with only 15 D1 wins in two seasons! C'mon, an experienced coach as you said at the MAC level shouldn't have results like that sorry. Look at Boals at Ohio U, Burno at N Illinois, Groce at Akron, he lost 11 players when he took over, Tod K at Toledo A decade ago, and ROB MURPHY at EMU, he won the MAC West, and went 30-36! Heath's is 26 games under .500 over 15 seasons! That tells you everything! EMU needs to find A WINNER......Maybe, Heath will do it next season, but this past year is the worst season I've witnessed, and I've been following EMU since the 80's! No excuses if he's a SEASONED/PROVEN coach.

I'm not going to defend Stan's record or performance; it has been found wanting to say the least. Please, however, do not point to the fact that Murphy won a "division championship". The MAC held on to the division format far too long, it led to coaches holding onto their jobs with mediocre results. The 9-7 record Murph achieved that season would have translated into a TIE for FIFTH PLACE in the MAC without the divisional format. Hardly noteworthy.

Pretty noteworthy that Murphy took over a completely bare cupboard and put a competitive product out there immediately. Murphy’s problem was that he never grew from that. One year of massive overachieving (as you noted, we finished 5th…but were predicted to finish 12th) followed by many years of underachieving. So many frustrating losses that should’ve easily been wins over the course of a decade.

And I’d still take all of that over what I watched this year.

I desperately want to find something to disagree with in your post, but I simply cannot.

Stan recruited better offensive talent and his guys do shoot free throws, but I see little schematic improvements in his offensive strategy.

Stan's teams get murdered by offensive rebounds like Murphy's did. Murph played the zone, and that problem is endemic when block-out responsibility is undefined. Heath's guys just seem to lack effort. As for defense, there is zero comparison. Murph's teams came to play D every night, this season's team just simply expended little effort on that side of the court.

I hate to say it, but we may have replaced Rick Rasnick with Jeff Woodruff, once again.
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(03-06-2023 11:36 AM)RamyEMU Wrote:  I am going to walk a tight rope here between: honoring Steve’s suggested decorum of integrity to facts, and also acknowledging Jerry’s suggestion that nothing of what we say here has any bearing on anything. So…

TOTALLY SPECULATING HERE:
Emoni Bates has already decided to enter the NBA draft. My reasoning is as follows. “the Vanzee” and “SideLines- Eastern Michigan” are pretty reasonably informed (or at least are on top of a lot of stuff) as non-traditional journalists. They both suggested that GA was willing to endorse (ie, pay) Emoni Bates to stay another year. And did so after the year was over. I think these were deliberate “leaks”. Probably did not want to say it while Emoni Bates was still playing here. But now that he isn’t coming back, GA wanted other potential recruits to know that there are some deep pockets related to EMU. And may even have exaggerated how much they endorsed Emoni Bates as kind of an advertisement of such. I don’t think GA is out there trying to buy a basketball team , but rather are putting themselves in a position to act if another opportunity presents itself. (Emoni Bates was rare in that he was an available talent, open to EMU, and most importantly a bridge to the Ypsi community. Not many are going to possess those factors)

Just my thoughts. I enjoyed having Emoni Bates on the team, despite the lack of results (I never fully blamed him for that- it was a group effort). But if my logic here is correct, ‘79, Super, and Jerry can all rest assured that Emoni Bates is leaving EMU next year.

Please do not imply that Super and I are always of like mind. He actually created a THREAD titled with my first name solely to whine about my disparaging comments as to his views. Poke him all you want, but don't group the guy with me, please.
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RE: Where Does EMu Basketball Go Moving Forward?
(03-07-2023 07:15 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  Please do not imply that Super and I are always of like mind. He actually created a THREAD titled with my first name solely to whine about my disparaging comments as to his views. Poke him all you want, but don't group the guy with me, please.

I assume you intended that as a joke. But I edited my original post just in case. I meant nothing by it. Just some seemed to like Emoni Bates more than others.

With the season now in reflection, the cold stretch he went through to close out the season, and with the realization “maybe” he was NOT actually a student athlete, I am much more critical of his performance. No more “Wrath of Fanboy”.

But I will always remember that 15 year old boy at the height of his fame and promise, responded to a scholarship offer extended from then Coach Murphy with a tweet something to the effect, “Blessed to receive an offer from EMU my Hometown University.” Even back then, he treated us as one of the big boys. Even if he was paid to be here, I do think he wanted to be here. I think he wanted to help EMU. I just don’t think he was able to- at least not on the court. I wish him the best. And if he succeeds, I believe he wiill Not forget Ypsi and EMU.
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RE: Where Does EMu Basketball Go Moving Forward?
(03-06-2023 09:20 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(03-06-2023 03:08 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(03-06-2023 01:12 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(03-06-2023 12:40 PM)dansplaining Wrote:  im concerned acuff may leave.

Maybe he sits a year and goes to UofD. Kampe wouldn’t take him because Oakland plays O and D

Splaining: I commented on this in Steve’s player movement thread if you are interested.

Luckey: is TyCuff a D2 player? Why are you so hard on him for a couple missed plays? … You have just been “Wrathed by FanBoy” 03-lmfao

Never said he was a D2 player just not a good D1 defensive player.

I've had pent-up views about how a player should play perimeter defense and it differs from how most players defends. Here's my view.

First, players hardly ever defend a drive and therefore that responsibility should be on a big playing inside to defend the rim against comers. A big should be first line of defense against a driver coming from any direction, with another big behind the first big at the rim as the second line of defense. I call such defense an umbrella defense.

Secondly, a perimeter defender should try to deny a good shooter
from receiving a pass, and if he is looking for a pass force him further beyond the three point line so if they shoot they have to make a longer and more difficult three-point shot which should dissuade them from shooting three's.

A perimeter defender should extend the defense in order to disrupt the opponent from running their half-court plays.

I'm also for a defender pressuring their offensive opponent, looking to steal his dribble or knock the ball out of hands with a downward motion when when the ball is exposed.

Kansas State!s PG playing against MSU had 5 steals by smothering the player he was guarding. That's how an on-ball defender should play. He stole both the opponent's dribble and on another occasion knocked the ball out of his hands when he held it.

His five steals gave his team 5 scoring opportunities they would not have otherwise had and at the same time denied MSU 5 scoring opportunities they otherwise would have had.

They most important thing a defender can do before a player shoots the ball is get his forearm two feet in front of the shooter!s eyes to keep him from having a clear view of the hoop and making it difficult for the shooter to calculate the distance and exact location of the hoop.

With 3-pointers worth more than 2-pointers such makes little sense.

Perimeter defenders should get in shooter's grill to prevent a three ball from being shot and to force him to dribble as it's much harder to score on a jumper off the dribble.
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(01-23-2023 10:54 AM)RamyEMU Wrote:  I think last years team was more talented then we gave it credit for. In addition to Noah, there were 4 players that went on to play professionally overseas some playing very well (Monty, Spottesville, NScott, and Binelli). We had 2 other players transfer to decent D1 programs (McBride and Mo Njie). We had a 7’ former p5 center in Okongo. With the exception of Noah and Mo Njie everyone else I listed was a 4th or 5th year player.

This year we reasonably thought we were improving talent level. Perhaps we exagerated it, or maybe they are young. We have 4 third year players in Golson, Noah, Tyson, and a slowly developing Jihad. Lovejoy, Geeter, and Randle never played a college game before. Billingsley and Emoni (has he turned 19 yet?) are second year players that are still developing their game to differing degrees. If everyone comes back (not expecting them to), how do these guys look next year? Maybe horrible still. Or maybe they look as talented as we were expecting them to be. I don’t know. Time will tell.

But it does not feel like last years team should have finished the season with a 3-14 record in the back half of the season. And this years team does not feel like it should have started 4-15. I don’t think Coach Heath’s schemes and management of the team has been working either of these two years. This is not to say he can’t make it work going forward (he has some legit successes in his past. Sorry, ‘Glory, we don’t agree on this). But whatever he has been doing at EMU up until now clearly isn’t working.

Excellent assessment of the last two seasons.
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RE: Where Does EMu Basketball Go Moving Forward?
(03-07-2023 07:15 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(03-06-2023 11:36 AM)RamyEMU Wrote:  I am going to walk a tight rope here between: honoring Steve’s suggested decorum of integrity to facts, and also acknowledging Jerry’s suggestion that nothing of what we say here has any bearing on anything. So…

TOTALLY SPECULATING HERE:
Emoni Bates has already decided to enter the NBA draft. My reasoning is as follows. “the Vanzee” and “SideLines- Eastern Michigan” are pretty reasonably informed (or at least are on top of a lot of stuff) as non-traditional journalists. They both suggested that GA was willing to endorse (ie, pay) Emoni Bates to stay another year. And did so after the year was over. I think these were deliberate “leaks”. Probably did not want to say it while Emoni Bates was still playing here. But now that he isn’t coming back, GA wanted other potential recruits to know that there are some deep pockets related to EMU. And may even have exaggerated how much they endorsed Emoni Bates as kind of an advertisement of such. I don’t think GA is out there trying to buy a basketball team , but rather are putting themselves in a position to act if another opportunity presents itself. (Emoni Bates was rare in that he was an available talent, open to EMU, and most importantly a bridge to the Ypsi community. Not many are going to possess those factors)

Just my thoughts. I enjoyed having Emoni Bates on the team, despite the lack of results (I never fully blamed him for that- it was a group effort). But if my logic here is correct, ‘79, Super, and Jerry can all rest assured that Emoni Bates is leaving EMU next year.

Please do not imply that Super and I are always of like mind. He actually created a THREAD titled with my first name solely to whine about my disparaging comments as to his views. Poke him all you want, but don't group the guy with me, please.
You're the true whiner on here! All you ever did was whine about my grammar and spelling! Get spell check you whine! Get gammer checker! You are a jerk! Yes I saw your post to me on twitter. You are a know nothing piece of garbage! 07-coffee3
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RE: Where Does EMu Basketball Go Moving Forward?
(03-29-2023 06:51 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  
(03-07-2023 07:15 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(03-06-2023 11:36 AM)RamyEMU Wrote:  I am going to walk a tight rope here between: honoring Steve’s suggested decorum of integrity to facts, and also acknowledging Jerry’s suggestion that nothing of what we say here has any bearing on anything. So…

TOTALLY SPECULATING HERE:
Emoni Bates has already decided to enter the NBA draft. My reasoning is as follows. “the Vanzee” and “SideLines- Eastern Michigan” are pretty reasonably informed (or at least are on top of a lot of stuff) as non-traditional journalists. They both suggested that GA was willing to endorse (ie, pay) Emoni Bates to stay another year. And did so after the year was over. I think these were deliberate “leaks”. Probably did not want to say it while Emoni Bates was still playing here. But now that he isn’t coming back, GA wanted other potential recruits to know that there are some deep pockets related to EMU. And may even have exaggerated how much they endorsed Emoni Bates as kind of an advertisement of such. I don’t think GA is out there trying to buy a basketball team , but rather are putting themselves in a position to act if another opportunity presents itself. (Emoni Bates was rare in that he was an available talent, open to EMU, and most importantly a bridge to the Ypsi community. Not many are going to possess those factors)

Just my thoughts. I enjoyed having Emoni Bates on the team, despite the lack of results (I never fully blamed him for that- it was a group effort). But if my logic here is correct, ‘79, Super, and Jerry can all rest assured that Emoni Bates is leaving EMU next year.

Please do not imply that Super and I are always of like mind. He actually created a THREAD titled with my first name solely to whine about my disparaging comments as to his views. Poke him all you want, but don't group the guy with me, please.
You're the true whiner on here! All you ever did was whine about my grammar and spelling! Get spell check you whine! Get gammer checker! You are a jerk! Yes I saw your post to me on twitter. You are a know nothing piece of garbage! 07-coffee3

I have NEVER made a Twitter post in my life! While I may be a jerk and whiner and in need of spell check and "gammer" checker as you recommended, please be advised of such in regard to Twitter. I would suggest you that perhaps reduce the alcohol content of that "tea" emoji, you consistently post along with your feckless posts. I admire your passion for EMU sports and wonder why you have to be such an arrogant assho-e and act so sanctimoniously.
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RE: Where Does EMu Basketball Go Moving Forward?
(03-29-2023 07:13 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(03-29-2023 06:51 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  
(03-07-2023 07:15 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(03-06-2023 11:36 AM)RamyEMU Wrote:  I am going to walk a tight rope here between: honoring Steve’s suggested decorum of integrity to facts, and also acknowledging Jerry’s suggestion that nothing of what we say here has any bearing on anything. So…

TOTALLY SPECULATING HERE:
Emoni Bates has already decided to enter the NBA draft. My reasoning is as follows. “the Vanzee” and “SideLines- Eastern Michigan” are pretty reasonably informed (or at least are on top of a lot of stuff) as non-traditional journalists. They both suggested that GA was willing to endorse (ie, pay) Emoni Bates to stay another year. And did so after the year was over. I think these were deliberate “leaks”. Probably did not want to say it while Emoni Bates was still playing here. But now that he isn’t coming back, GA wanted other potential recruits to know that there are some deep pockets related to EMU. And may even have exaggerated how much they endorsed Emoni Bates as kind of an advertisement of such. I don’t think GA is out there trying to buy a basketball team , but rather are putting themselves in a position to act if another opportunity presents itself. (Emoni Bates was rare in that he was an available talent, open to EMU, and most importantly a bridge to the Ypsi community. Not many are going to possess those factors)

Just my thoughts. I enjoyed having Emoni Bates on the team, despite the lack of results (I never fully blamed him for that- it was a group effort). But if my logic here is correct, ‘79, Super, and Jerry can all rest assured that Emoni Bates is leaving EMU next year.

Please do not imply that Super and I are always of like mind. He actually created a THREAD titled with my first name solely to whine about my disparaging comments as to his views. Poke him all you want, but don't group the guy with me, please.
You're the true whiner on here! All you ever did was whine about my grammar and spelling! Get spell check you whine! Get gammer checker! You are a jerk! Yes I saw your post to me on twitter. You are a know nothing piece of garbage! 07-coffee3

I have NEVER made a Twitter post in my life! While I may be a jerk and whiner and in need of spell check and "gammer" checker as you recommended, please be advised of such in regard to Twitter. I would suggest you that perhaps reduce the alcohol content of that "tea" emoji, you consistently post along with your feckless posts. I admire your passion for EMU sports and wonder why you have to be such an arrogant assho-e and act so sanctimoniously.
I'm sorry but "gammer checker" had me spitting my Diet Coke! OMG and the alcohol spiked "tea" emoji had me rolling! Come to think of it, his precious "tea" emoji makes a lot more sense now! 03-lmfao
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(03-29-2023 07:41 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  
(03-29-2023 07:13 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(03-29-2023 06:51 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  
(03-07-2023 07:15 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(03-06-2023 11:36 AM)RamyEMU Wrote:  I am going to walk a tight rope here between: honoring Steve’s suggested decorum of integrity to facts, and also acknowledging Jerry’s suggestion that nothing of what we say here has any bearing on anything. So…

TOTALLY SPECULATING HERE:
Emoni Bates has already decided to enter the NBA draft. My reasoning is as follows. “the Vanzee” and “SideLines- Eastern Michigan” are pretty reasonably informed (or at least are on top of a lot of stuff) as non-traditional journalists. They both suggested that GA was willing to endorse (ie, pay) Emoni Bates to stay another year. And did so after the year was over. I think these were deliberate “leaks”. Probably did not want to say it while Emoni Bates was still playing here. But now that he isn’t coming back, GA wanted other potential recruits to know that there are some deep pockets related to EMU. And may even have exaggerated how much they endorsed Emoni Bates as kind of an advertisement of such. I don’t think GA is out there trying to buy a basketball team , but rather are putting themselves in a position to act if another opportunity presents itself. (Emoni Bates was rare in that he was an available talent, open to EMU, and most importantly a bridge to the Ypsi community. Not many are going to possess those factors)

Just my thoughts. I enjoyed having Emoni Bates on the team, despite the lack of results (I never fully blamed him for that- it was a group effort). But if my logic here is correct, ‘79, Super, and Jerry can all rest assured that Emoni Bates is leaving EMU next year.

Please do not imply that Super and I are always of like mind. He actually created a THREAD titled with my first name solely to whine about my disparaging comments as to his views. Poke him all you want, but don't group the guy with me, please.
You're the true whiner on here! All you ever did was whine about my grammar and spelling! Get spell check you whine! Get gammer checker! You are a jerk! Yes I saw your post to me on twitter. You are a know nothing piece of garbage! 07-coffee3

I have NEVER made a Twitter post in my life! While I may be a jerk and whiner and in need of spell check and "gammer" checker as you recommended, please be advised of such in regard to Twitter. I would suggest you that perhaps reduce the alcohol content of that "tea" emoji, you consistently post along with your feckless posts. I admire your passion for EMU sports and wonder why you have to be such an arrogant assho-e and act so sanctimoniously.
I'm sorry but "gammer checker" had me spitting my Diet Coke! OMG and the alcohol spiked "tea" emoji had me rolling! Come to think of it, his precious "tea" emoji makes a lot more sense now! 03-lmfao

Im sorry to see your reading abilities and comprehension failing. Please get help. I don't drink any alcohol. 07-coffee3
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Offer H Dickinson 1 million to come 5 miles down the street! It's A dream, but make A NIL offer!
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(03-31-2023 05:40 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  Offer H Dickinson 1 million to come 5 miles down the street! It's A dream, but make A NIL offer!

Honestly, I think that number might be a bit low to what Hunter is looking for.
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(03-31-2023 05:40 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  Offer H Dickinson 1 million to come 5 miles down the street! It's A dream, but make A NIL offer!
I'll kick in $20. Make it another $20 for Emoni to stay.
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(03-07-2023 05:56 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  I hate to say it, but we may have replaced Rick Rasnick with Jeff Woodruff, once again.

Wait . . . that wasn't Brandon Bowdry last season?
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(03-31-2023 05:40 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  Offer H Dickinson 1 million to come 5 miles down the street! It's A dream, but make A NIL offer!
No thanks. As cocky and brash as Dickinson is, it is telling that he refuses to leave college and enter the draft. Scared?
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(04-01-2023 10:41 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  
(03-31-2023 05:40 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  Offer H Dickinson 1 million to come 5 miles down the street! It's A dream, but make A NIL offer!
No thanks. As cocky and brash as Dickinson is, it is telling that he refuses to leave college and enter the draft. Scared?

Dickinson is smart. He makes a million dollars in college knowing he’s not good enough to play in the NBA and that his professional basketball career is destined for Europe making a poultry $500k per season lol
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Dickinson might be a worse defensive player than Bates.
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I’m not sure if you’ve noticed during the final 4, but the strength of all of the players at all positions. The Florida Atlantic and SDSU guards were pretty thick. I don’t want to be negative about our guards but I’ll just add do we have an off season weight training program for EMU basketball? Or do we just run the weight training video in September going thru the motions lifting a few weights and then posting it online? Culture is incredibly important when building a successful team, business etc and I didn’t see any physical growth from the returning players. Certainly our backcourt has professional potential but which league they play could be determined by their physical attributes.
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(04-02-2023 09:22 AM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(04-01-2023 10:41 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  
(03-31-2023 05:40 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  Offer H Dickinson 1 million to come 5 miles down the street! It's A dream, but make A NIL offer!
No thanks. As cocky and brash as Dickinson is, it is telling that he refuses to leave college and enter the draft. Scared?

Dickinson is smart. He makes a million dollars in college knowing he’s not good enough to play in the NBA and that his professional basketball career is destined for Europe making a poultry $500k per season lol

Nailed it! He saw what happened to Luka Garza who was a superior post talent. He is now a free agent of sorts looking for the most lucrative NIL deal possible as the next two years probably will be the highest wage earnings years of his life. Yes, Bob he is scared of the NBA, he knows his game does not translate well to The League and two more years in college will only deprecate his value as he will be a relatively "old" prospect at age 25. Like Lucky said, he is smart.
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