How can a school be in D2 for all sports except one?! I guess you can get a waiver for anything.

It's a common thing. Only football and basketball can't do that. You see a lot of DII teams in men's hockey and other minor sports. Occasionally, men's soccer and baseball will have one or more, but right now that's just DBU.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NC...n_I_sports

(01-26-2023 12:55 AM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  It's a common thing. Only football and basketball can't do that. You see a lot of DII teams in men's hockey and other minor sports. Occasionally, men's soccer and baseball will have one or more, but right now that's just DBU.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NC...n_I_sports

Perhaps what happened with Trinity tennis is that they couldn't continue at D-1 after their other sports dropped down to Division III. While they were in the Southland Conference with Arlington, Arkansas State, Lamar Tech and Abilene Christian, Trinity was strong in all sports at the D-1 level - not just Tennis.

Trinity never technically was DI. They dropped out when the Southland started moving up to the University Division in the early 1970’s. Their program was still College Division then.

Trinity, Trinity... what a tennis powerhouse long ago. Today, ACU women beat then 7-0.

(01-21-2023 05:58 PM)UTArlingtonMaverick Wrote:  

(01-20-2023 04:13 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  UTA is one of those programs that look like they would be fun scheduling rather often across all sports.

Thank you.

We seem to schedule UC schools in men's basketball with some degree of regularity. For instance, I remember watching Irvine and Davis at College Park Center not too long ago. Pretty sure we played at Santa Barbara recently, and, of course, we were able to help Berkeley out this year by offering ourselves as their first win of the season.

Yes. Nov 2021. We don't talk about that one

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/box...rbara.html

UCSB and UTA have met three times overall since both becoming D1 programs. 1970 (SB) , then in 2019 (Arlington) and the aforementioned '21.

(01-20-2023 08:44 PM)RT98 Wrote:  

(01-20-2023 04:13 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  UTA is one of those programs that look like they would be fun scheduling rather often across all sports.

I believe this should happen. Gaucho sports all seem to be very solid

Baseball especially. Too bad UTA doesn't sponsor men's soccer because they could probably make some noise nationally in no time, if they ever fielded a team.

(01-30-2023 11:41 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  

(01-20-2023 08:44 PM)RT98 Wrote:  

(01-20-2023 04:13 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  UTA is one of those programs that look like they would be fun scheduling rather often across all sports.

I believe this should happen. Gaucho sports all seem to be very solid

Baseball especially. Too bad UTA doesn't sponsor men's soccer because they could probably make some noise nationally in no time, if they ever fielded a team.

Thank you. I have been saying this for a long time. We have a very international student body and it seems Soccer is the Worlds sport. Your baseball always seems to be really good, but your basketball also seems quite good

(01-31-2023 07:13 AM)RT98 Wrote:  

(01-30-2023 11:41 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  

(01-20-2023 08:44 PM)RT98 Wrote:  

(01-20-2023 04:13 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  UTA is one of those programs that look like they would be fun scheduling rather often across all sports.

I believe this should happen. Gaucho sports all seem to be very solid

Baseball especially. Too bad UTA doesn't sponsor men's soccer because they could probably make some noise nationally in no time, if they ever fielded a team.

Thank you. I have been saying this for a long time. We have a very international student body and it seems Soccer is the Worlds sport. Your baseball always seems to be really good, but your basketball also seems quite good

I think there are around 5,000 international students at UTA. many local schools have soccer games at maverick stadium and soccer doesnt require much of an investment in gear so I think it would be an easy add.

Would adding men’s soccer mean no football? If you add both, there will need to be multiple women sports added.

(01-30-2023 11:38 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  

(01-21-2023 05:58 PM)UTArlingtonMaverick Wrote:  

(01-20-2023 04:13 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  UTA is one of those programs that look like they would be fun scheduling rather often across all sports.

Thank you.

We seem to schedule UC schools in men's basketball with some degree of regularity. For instance, I remember watching Irvine and Davis at College Park Center not too long ago. Pretty sure we played at Santa Barbara recently, and, of course, we were able to help Berkeley out this year by offering ourselves as their first win of the season.

Yes. Nov 2021. We don't talk about that one

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/box...rbara.html

UCSB and UTA have met three times overall since both becoming D1 programs. 1970 (SB) , then in 2019 (Arlington) and the aforementioned '21.

Interesting. I was at the 2019 game. Let's hope we play again relatively soon. Fabulous university, UCSB is. And I like to hang-out with fabulous.

(01-31-2023 11:15 AM)TexanFan Wrote:  Would adding men’s soccer mean no football? If you add both, there will need to be multiple women sports added.

Not necessarily. UT-RGV will have both men's soccer and football. They're adding swimming as well.

I just noticed UTA does not have women's soccer. That would have to be included if football returns.

(01-31-2023 12:24 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  

(01-31-2023 11:15 AM)TexanFan Wrote:  Would adding men’s soccer mean no football? If you add both, there will need to be multiple women sports added.

Not necessarily. UT-RGV will have both men's soccer and football. They're adding swimming as well.

I just noticed UTA does not have women's soccer. That would have to be included if football returns.

I think a few years ago there was talk about adding womens soccer after golf. dont know why that has not yet happened. The golf team is now headquartered at the Texas Rangers golf club which used to be Ditto. they recently spent 33 million redoing the course and upgrading the facilities.

The Student senate has scheduled a referendum on 3 & 4 April regarding athletics expansion, including football. Perhaps UTA will follow the example set by UTRGV. Lots of us hope so.

I just know we remember the good old days and would like to be playing football with our neighbors down the road.

There is not enough interest in UTA football to add it. We are surrounded by the Dallas cowboys. TcU SMU people aren't going to care about our football we need to become competitive in basketball and baseball[/align]

You're wrong, 98. UTA is no more "surrounded" than are Tulane, Rice or UCLA, to name a few. Success at other sports like baseball or basketball has no bearing on whether or not football will be successful. SMU and TCU cared enough about UTA football to often schedule games with us in the past. Need I remind you that Arlington defeated TCU twice in the 70s and at all the TCU or SMU games UTA brought crowds that exceeded many of those schools' other out of conference games?

It's too bad you don't believe we can do it, but if you don't like the idea, by all means stay away. I predict the students will vote overwhelmingly in favor of football at UTA, and that we will be successful.

Having football will put UTA on the map and make the University "Tier One" in athletics, to go along with our academic "Tier One" excellence.

SFA is good at basketball and football. Sam is good at baseball and football. ACU is competitive in all three. UTRGV hasn’t been competitive in basketball overall and they started a team, which plays in a year and a half. Competitiveness in one sport has zero bearing on anything else.

The City of Houston has three pro sports teams ant the highest level, a couple of other lower tier pro sports leagues and several colleges, all sponsoring football. Crowded sports market is an excuse and nothing else. When our basketball was winning, we drew crowds. If you are going to say I can’t afford a UTA football game because I’m going to the Cowboys, you probably can’t afford the Cowboys either.

Speaking of basketball, there’s the NBA team down the road, three DI programs in the area, along with a handful of DII, DIII, NAIA and juco programs. We just can’t compete and should drop that sport too.

The only argument the anti-football crowd makes that has any reasoning is budget/cost. Anything else is an argument pulled out of thin air to try and back up a viewpoint, rather than the viewpoint formed by the available data.

There’s another avenue for men’s soccer, there’s an example with a school still technically in the WAC, and it might be more fun.

I’ll start by saying that Brigham Young, who didn’t want to have a scholarship men’s program back in the early 2000s, decided to enter a team in what was then the Premier Development League… now USL League Two. That level is not considered professional, and a lot of college players use the level for summer ball. BTW, I would venture they’re getting better competition there than in the college season. That lasted from 2003 to 2017, and they’re back playing club soccer now.

So… darned if there wasn’t a team in the US Open Cup this week named UDA NMSU. It’s apparently the New Mexico State club team (or so), they joined the very amateur UPSL, qualified for this year’s cup through that route, and Wednesday they beat USL-2 team Park City Red Wolves in the first round of the cup proper. The game was even broadcast through Aggie Vision and got redistributed through the new Open Cup media provider. In a couple weeks, they travel up to Albuquerque and play USL Championship (fully professional) side New Mexico United.

So many people make that “we have all sorts of foreigners at our school” argument, but that rarely leads to a successful program, and if anything, athletics was the last reason a large number of them go to college. Just saying there’s another route.

Interesting. We do see lots of foreign athletes in certain sports. UTA has no American tennis players, men or women. Soccer would be similar, I guess, since futbol is more popular in other countries. My grandson is perhaps the only American soccer player on his college team, and the coaches are all foreigners. I presume that if Oxford decided to sponsor American football, most of the coaches and players would be Americans. That's just how it is.