(11-28-2022 11:29 AM)RuckleSt Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 11:26 AM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 11:23 AM)RuckleSt Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 10:50 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Wisconsin has top 10 resources without the insane instant expectations.

It's actually a BIG job - and not just a run of the mill P5.

Cincy isn't a dead end job; they'll figure it out in a few years and get back to winning 8-9 a year in a tougher league.

Paul Chryst won 10+ games in 4 of his 7 seasons, went to 3 NY6 bowls and won 2, won the Big Ten West in 3 of his 7 seasons, went 6-1 in bowl games, and had an overall record of 67-26. The insane instant expectations are there, but probably not as insane as Michigan and OSU.

And we won't fire our coach from taking a 12-1 team down to 6-6 two years in a row.

Do you think most of the Memphis fanbase is ready to move on?

The majority, yes.

Fickell interviewed with WI the day after the ECU game. Lol

All coaches are sluts.

(11-28-2022 12:02 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Fickell interviewed with WI the day after the ECU game. Lol

All coaches are sluts.

But Fickell just *loves* Ohio! I mean who doesn’t? So hard to leave.

(11-28-2022 11:23 AM)RuckleSt Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 10:50 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Wisconsin has top 10 resources without the insane instant expectations.

It's actually a BIG job - and not just a run of the mill P5.

Cincy isn't a dead end job; they'll figure it out in a few years and get back to winning 8-9 a year in a tougher league.

Paul Chryst won 10+ games in 4 of his 7 seasons, went to 3 NY6 bowls and won 2, won the Big Ten West in 3 of his 7 seasons, went 6-1 in bowl games, and had an overall record of 67-26. The insane instant expectations are there, but probably not as insane as Michigan and OSU.

This is why I think Fickell’s honeymoon at wisconsin will be short and the heat will be turned up early. The lack of discipline i harped on all year will bite him in the butt. Some of this is just gut feeling on my part, but I’m thinking this won’t be the best ending for Fickell - other than the money.

(11-28-2022 12:05 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 12:02 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Fickell interviewed with WI the day after the ECU game. Lol

All coaches are sluts.

But Fickell just *loves* Ohio! I mean who doesn’t? So hard to leave.

"Memphis is where I want to be".

John Calipari

Cinn please please please hire Dion

(11-28-2022 09:17 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 11:40 PM)TripleA Wrote:  By the way, I agree with UC fans who say Wisconsin is a bit weird. Is Wisconsin that much better than Michigan State, which he turned down?

I guess I could see it with divisions, but not going forward.

As a Big Ten guy that is neutral between anyone that isn't Illinois, yes, Wisconsin is absolutely a better job than Michigan State. Glaringly, MSU will never be better than #2 in its own home state, whereas Wisconsin actually has locked-in universal home state support that is only matched by Nebraska. I mean this literally: when Facebook did its study of the top college football fan bases in every county in the country, the only 2 schools in the nation to be the #1 school in *every* county in its own home state were Nebraska and Wisconsin (and the State of Wisconsin has nearly 3 times as many people along with a major TV market and their support spills over the state border into the Chicago area).

Here is what I stated on the Realignment Board:

... I think this forum weirdly underrates the Wisconsin job assuming that they’re actually going to pay market rate for top coaches (which they didn’t before but now seem to want to do considering the Michael Corleone-type midseason firing of Paul Chryst earlier this year).

Wisconsin has been the most consistent program in the Big Ten outside of Ohio State over the past 15 years, has a large and super-loyal fan base, is located in one of the best college towns in America, is a top academic school that produces a disproportionately wealthy alumni base, and is only a couple of hours away from the Chicago area for recruiting purposes.

I think Wisconsin can be described as “low key” compared to some of the outwardly bombastic fan bases and athletic departments that you’ll find at Ohio State, Michigan or several of the SEC schools. Wisconsin has a low key massive athletic department (fueled by selling out every football and basketball game plus the largest hockey attendance most years) with a low key huge and loyal fan base that owns its home state (e.g. when Facebook analyzed the favorite college football team in each county in the nation, the only 2 schools that owned *every* county in its home state were the not surprising Nebraska and maybe the more surprising Wisconsin) with a low key academic powerhouse of a school (e.g. its strength across graduate departments is on par with Michigan and Northwestern without the snobbery) and low key consistently successful on-the-field football program for the past 30 years across multiple coaches.

To me as an Illinois fan, a top Wisconsin program is a lot scarier to me than anyone else in the current Big Ten West because they actually have all of the assets of a place like Michigan but without the pretentious superiority complex.

Sorry for you to type all that, but I didn't really make myself clear. That's way too far into the weeds of something that only a B1G fan would know.

I'm sure Fickell saw a difference, or he wouldn't have said no to MSU and yes to Wisconsin.

I just meant that to an outside fan, who was told that Fickell would only leave for Notre Dame or Ohio State, he either changed his criteria, or he was tricking folks. Michigan State isn't one of those two. Neither is Wisconsin.

And to me, there's a wide gap in perception to most non-B10 fans like me. When a coach leaves a perception like Fickell did, it can't just be about money and resources, it has to be intangible things that pull at a coach's heartstrings.

I don't see that with Fickell and Wisconsin, and if it was there, why did nobody know it, but they knew about the other two? Doesn't make sense.

(11-28-2022 09:20 AM)Owls9878 Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 10:43 PM)ECU#7 Wrote:  This is like Christmas morning in November. Suck it Cinn fans. Can't wait to see you sitting at home this time next year with no bowl. The new doormat of the B12

The level of butt hurt from Cindy fans is palpable.

Ehhh…While change always causes anxiety, I’m not sure there’s an extraordinary amount of “butthurt” as you call it.

We’ve been on this ride before and it’s not like coaches don’t move on. Fortunately, the overall trajectory of UC football has been up over the last 25 years, and there’s no reason to expect that won’t continue.

It’s not like UC is an AAC bottom dweller playing in empty NFL stadiums…that was literally decades ago. Some schools elevated…others did not.

(11-28-2022 01:55 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 09:20 AM)Owls9878 Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 10:43 PM)ECU#7 Wrote:  This is like Christmas morning in November. Suck it Cinn fans. Can't wait to see you sitting at home this time next year with no bowl. The new doormat of the B12

The level of butt hurt from Cindy fans is palpable.

Ehhh…While change always causes anxiety, I’m not sure there’s an extraordinary amount of “butthurt” as you call it.

We’ve been on this ride before and it’s not like coaches don’t move on. Fortunately, the overall trajectory of UC football has been up over the last 25 years, and there’s no reason to expect that won’t continue.

It’s not like UC is an AAC bottom dweller playing in empty NFL stadiums…that was literally decades ago. Some schools elevated…others did not.

Problem is the trajectory of the program is down bigly after the past three days. You don’t just move on from losing the best coach in school history and the heart and soul of the program. Just need to accept the facts. Coupled with a loss to Tulane. Timing couldn’t be worse either with the transfer portal and conference move.

But hey, I’m sure things will be fine

(11-28-2022 01:55 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 09:20 AM)Owls9878 Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 10:43 PM)ECU#7 Wrote:  This is like Christmas morning in November. Suck it Cinn fans. Can't wait to see you sitting at home this time next year with no bowl. The new doormat of the B12

The level of butt hurt from Cindy fans is palpable.

Ehhh…While change always causes anxiety, I’m not sure there’s an extraordinary amount of “butthurt” as you call it.

We’ve been on this ride before and it’s not like coaches don’t move on. Fortunately, the overall trajectory of UC football has been up over the last 25 years, and there’s no reason to expect that won’t continue.

It’s not like UC is an AAC bottom dweller playing in empty NFL stadiums…that was literally decades ago. Some schools elevated…others did not.

I agree with all that. The issue for me is UC fans bragging that Fickell would only leave for ND or OSU, then he left anyway.

I think unless you're Alabama or Ohio State or a few others, coaches will always leve for what they perceive as a better gig.

(11-28-2022 02:48 PM)Owls9878 Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:55 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 09:20 AM)Owls9878 Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 10:43 PM)ECU#7 Wrote:  This is like Christmas morning in November. Suck it Cinn fans. Can't wait to see you sitting at home this time next year with no bowl. The new doormat of the B12

The level of butt hurt from Cindy fans is palpable.

Ehhh…While change always causes anxiety, I’m not sure there’s an extraordinary amount of “butthurt” as you call it.

We’ve been on this ride before and it’s not like coaches don’t move on. Fortunately, the overall trajectory of UC football has been up over the last 25 years, and there’s no reason to expect that won’t continue.

It’s not like UC is an AAC bottom dweller playing in empty NFL stadiums…that was literally decades ago. Some schools elevated…others did not.

Problem is the trajectory of the program is down bigly after the past three days. You don’t just move on from losing the best coach in school history and the heart and soul of the program. Just need to accept the facts. Coupled with a loss to Tulane. Timing couldn’t be worse either with the transfer portal and conference move.

But hey, I’m sure things will be fine

If only I was a Temple fan where I could play my games in an NFL stadium with 200 people in attendance

(11-28-2022 03:06 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:55 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 09:20 AM)Owls9878 Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 10:43 PM)ECU#7 Wrote:  This is like Christmas morning in November. Suck it Cinn fans. Can't wait to see you sitting at home this time next year with no bowl. The new doormat of the B12

The level of butt hurt from Cindy fans is palpable.

Ehhh…While change always causes anxiety, I’m not sure there’s an extraordinary amount of “butthurt” as you call it.

We’ve been on this ride before and it’s not like coaches don’t move on. Fortunately, the overall trajectory of UC football has been up over the last 25 years, and there’s no reason to expect that won’t continue.

It’s not like UC is an AAC bottom dweller playing in empty NFL stadiums…that was literally decades ago. Some schools elevated…others did not.

I agree with all that. The issue for me is UC fans bragging that Fickell would only leave for ND or OSU, then he left anyway.

I think unless you're Alabama or Ohio State or a few others, coaches will always leve for what they perceive as a better gig.

Some uc fans thought that. Some thought the list was probably larger than that. I always said you never know what is in a coaches head and what they are looking for. I thought thy list was small but based on his obvious consideration of Michigan state two years ago his taking Wisconsin didn't shock me.

Uc will be fine. They've done this many times. Fickell wasn't some unprecedented coach in terms of success. I'd argue Kelly had as good a run of success (or better when you consider stiffer competition Kelly faced). What made fickell unique is he stuck around 6 years so you really got a feel for what a fickell program would look like long term. Uc is a great job. They just need to find the right guy going forward.

(11-28-2022 02:48 PM)Owls9878 Wrote:  Problem is the trajectory of the program is down bigly after the past three days. You don’t just move on from losing the best coach in school history and the heart and soul of the program. Just need to accept the facts. Coupled with a loss to Tulane. Timing couldn’t be worse either with the transfer portal and conference move.

But hey, I’m sure things will be fine

This is a sad, bitter little post from someone who clearly knows nothing about the UC football program.

(11-28-2022 02:48 PM)Owls9878 Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:55 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 09:20 AM)Owls9878 Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 10:43 PM)ECU#7 Wrote:  This is like Christmas morning in November. Suck it Cinn fans. Can't wait to see you sitting at home this time next year with no bowl. The new doormat of the B12

The level of butt hurt from Cindy fans is palpable.

Ehhh…While change always causes anxiety, I’m not sure there’s an extraordinary amount of “butthurt” as you call it.

We’ve been on this ride before and it’s not like coaches don’t move on. Fortunately, the overall trajectory of UC football has been up over the last 25 years, and there’s no reason to expect that won’t continue.

It’s not like UC is an AAC bottom dweller playing in empty NFL stadiums…that was literally decades ago. Some schools elevated…others did not.

Problem is the trajectory of the program is down bigly after the past three days. You don’t just move on from losing the best coach in school history and the heart and soul of the program. Just need to accept the facts. Coupled with a loss to Tulane. Timing couldn’t be worse either with the transfer portal and conference move.

But hey, I’m sure things will be fine

People thought there wouldn't be life after Brian Kelly either. Worry bout yo'self lmao

(11-28-2022 02:48 PM)Owls9878 Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:55 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 09:20 AM)Owls9878 Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 10:43 PM)ECU#7 Wrote:  This is like Christmas morning in November. Suck it Cinn fans. Can't wait to see you sitting at home this time next year with no bowl. The new doormat of the B12

The level of butt hurt from Cindy fans is palpable.

Ehhh…While change always causes anxiety, I’m not sure there’s an extraordinary amount of “butthurt” as you call it.

We’ve been on this ride before and it’s not like coaches don’t move on. Fortunately, the overall trajectory of UC football has been up over the last 25 years, and there’s no reason to expect that won’t continue.

It’s not like UC is an AAC bottom dweller playing in empty NFL stadiums…that was literally decades ago. Some schools elevated…others did not.

Problem is the trajectory of the program is down bigly after the past three days. You don’t just move on from losing the best coach in school history and the heart and soul of the program. Just need to accept the facts. Coupled with a loss to Tulane. Timing couldn’t be worse either with the transfer portal and conference move.

But hey, I’m sure things will be fine

Well I was at the game against Tulane, and at times it looked like UC just dialed it in.

Part of this is that football isn’t the meaning of my life and whatever happens happens. I’ve had the feeling for a couple months that Fickell was leaving so it’s not like I am surprised. For this cycle, Fickell may have peaked.

Next.

(11-28-2022 03:06 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:55 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 09:20 AM)Owls9878 Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 10:43 PM)ECU#7 Wrote:  This is like Christmas morning in November. Suck it Cinn fans. Can't wait to see you sitting at home this time next year with no bowl. The new doormat of the B12

The level of butt hurt from Cindy fans is palpable.

Ehhh…While change always causes anxiety, I’m not sure there’s an extraordinary amount of “butthurt” as you call it.

We’ve been on this ride before and it’s not like coaches don’t move on. Fortunately, the overall trajectory of UC football has been up over the last 25 years, and there’s no reason to expect that won’t continue.

It’s not like UC is an AAC bottom dweller playing in empty NFL stadiums…that was literally decades ago. Some schools elevated…others did not.

I agree with all that. The issue for me is UC fans bragging that Fickell would only leave for ND or OSU, then he left anyway.

I think unless you're Alabama or Ohio State or a few others, coaches will always leve for what they perceive as a better gig.

Facts

(11-28-2022 03:06 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:55 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 09:20 AM)Owls9878 Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 10:43 PM)ECU#7 Wrote:  This is like Christmas morning in November. Suck it Cinn fans. Can't wait to see you sitting at home this time next year with no bowl. The new doormat of the B12

The level of butt hurt from Cindy fans is palpable.

Ehhh…While change always causes anxiety, I’m not sure there’s an extraordinary amount of “butthurt” as you call it.

We’ve been on this ride before and it’s not like coaches don’t move on. Fortunately, the overall trajectory of UC football has been up over the last 25 years, and there’s no reason to expect that won’t continue.

It’s not like UC is an AAC bottom dweller playing in empty NFL stadiums…that was literally decades ago. Some schools elevated…others did not.

I agree with all that. The issue for me is UC fans bragging that Fickell would only leave for ND or OSU, then he left anyway.

I think unless you're Alabama or Ohio State or a few others, coaches will always leve for what they perceive as a better gig.

Well he didn’t get ND and who is sure OSU would take him. Those two were mentioned because those were the clear top two. He denied others before he chose Wisconsin, so it’s not like he wasn’t picky.

Wisconsin is a wealthy, major program with a huge, loyal fan base and a great football history. So stop pretending Fickell made a huge concession to go there.

(11-28-2022 03:38 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 02:48 PM)Owls9878 Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:55 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 09:20 AM)Owls9878 Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 10:43 PM)ECU#7 Wrote:  This is like Christmas morning in November. Suck it Cinn fans. Can't wait to see you sitting at home this time next year with no bowl. The new doormat of the B12

The level of butt hurt from Cindy fans is palpable.

Ehhh…While change always causes anxiety, I’m not sure there’s an extraordinary amount of “butthurt” as you call it.

We’ve been on this ride before and it’s not like coaches don’t move on. Fortunately, the overall trajectory of UC football has been up over the last 25 years, and there’s no reason to expect that won’t continue.

It’s not like UC is an AAC bottom dweller playing in empty NFL stadiums…that was literally decades ago. Some schools elevated…others did not.

Problem is the trajectory of the program is down bigly after the past three days. You don’t just move on from losing the best coach in school history and the heart and soul of the program. Just need to accept the facts. Coupled with a loss to Tulane. Timing couldn’t be worse either with the transfer portal and conference move.

But hey, I’m sure things will be fine

Well I was at the game against Tulane, and at times it looked like UC just dialed it in.

Part of this is that football isn’t the meaning of my life and whatever happens happens. I’ve had the feeling for a couple months that Fickell was leaving so it’s not like I am surprised. For this cycle, Fickell may have peaked.

Next.

Same thing happened with Fuente at Memphis. Memphis was 8-0 the night of the Navy game. Navy steamrolled us in our own crib. Our team looked lost the whole game. We ended the season 8-4, and lost the bowl game.

Everyone knew something was going on. Not sure what exactly, but there were insiders that did.

These things take weeks to unfold. I'm sure Fickell was working this for a while.

So who replaces Fickell?

A friend from Cincinnati says it may be Urban Meyer ....

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