(12-06-2022 01:57 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  2017 USF UCF 4.644 million

Why would y'all not want to keep this game?

2022 USF UCF 329k

Because USF has fallen off a cliff and may never recover

(12-06-2022 01:57 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  2017 USF UCF 4.644 million

Why would y'all not want to keep this game?

2022 UCF USF 329k viewers

But thanks -- looking that up highlighted that the 2022 SunBelt CCG on ESPN was nearly identical to a 1-10 AAC team on ESPN2 (up against rivalry weekend games which combined for more viewers than the SEC CCG)

(12-06-2022 11:04 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Conference Championship Weekend Viewership:

SEC 10,894,000
B10 10,699,000
B12 9,413,000
P12 5,967,000
ACC 3,467,000
American 2,695,000
mwc 1,938,000
MAC 721,000
SWAC 391,000
Sun Belt 332,000


Initial analysis - As expected for SEC/B10. P12 a record for them -- it was on its own and a playoff play-in game for USC (narrator - they did not).
I think that THAT result meant more eyeballs for TCU-KState (narrator GO WILDCATS!) in addition to not having competition.
I'll pull all the AAC CCG numbers in a minute...but that's good for us. Not great. Not bad. Just kinda good.

mwc -- REALLY good number for them. When there were no stakes and against both the American (with NY6 implications) and the SEC.
Looks like it came at the expense of the Sun Belt.

I look forward to hearing from the Fact Free FunBelt Fans about their going head-to-head with the SWAC on a better network and losing

Well, it looks like the Sun Belt board has discovered the info on sportsmediawatch
And the thread title does say "Brutal"
And one poster laments going up against two "P5" -- they clearly mean the SEC and the American.

However -
The problem is that the SEC is in the Sun Belt geographic footprint - they'd do better against the Big 10 I guess.
And the Argentina- Australia soccer World Cup clearly killed them.

None have yet acknowledged that the Sun Belt on ESPN went head to head vs the SWAC on ESPN2 and LOST.

Yea, they are waiting for you to go over there and put ‘em out of their misery.

(12-06-2022 11:04 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Conference Championship Weekend Viewership:

SEC 10,894,000
B10 10,699,000
B12 9,413,000
P12 5,967,000
ACC 3,467,000
American 2,695,000
mwc 1,938,000
MAC 721,000
SWAC 391,000
Sun Belt 332,000


Initial analysis - As expected for SEC/B10. P12 a record for them -- it was on its own and a playoff play-in game for USC (narrator - they did not).
I think that THAT result meant more eyeballs for TCU-KState (narrator GO WILDCATS!) in addition to not having competition.
I'll pull all the AAC CCG numbers in a minute...but that's good for us. Not great. Not bad. Just kinda good.

mwc -- REALLY good number for them. When there were no stakes and against both the American (with NY6 implications) and the SEC.
Looks like it came at the expense of the Sun Belt.

I look forward to hearing from the Fact Free FunBelt Fans about their going head-to-head with the SWAC on a better network and losing

clt says the lowly sunbelt numbers are sad

(12-06-2022 04:20 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  However -
The problem is that the SEC is in the Sun Belt geographic footprint - they'd do better against the Big 10 I guess.
And the Argentina- Australia soccer World Cup clearly killed them.

None have yet acknowledged that the Sun Belt on ESPN went head to head vs the SWAC on ESPN2 and LOST.

I do think they would benefit from moving to a time slot with less competition, but the AAC game was between two schools also in the SEC footprint and survived the experience.

(12-06-2022 11:04 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Conference Championship Weekend Viewership:

SEC 10,894,000
B10 10,699,000
B12 9,413,000
P12 5,967,000
ACC 3,467,000
American 2,695,000
mwc 1,938,000
MAC 721,000
SWAC 391,000
Sun Belt 332,000


Initial analysis - As expected for SEC/B10. P12 a record for them -- it was on its own and a playoff play-in game for USC (narrator - they did not).
I think that THAT result meant more eyeballs for TCU-KState (narrator GO WILDCATS!) in addition to not having competition.
I'll pull all the AAC CCG numbers in a minute...but that's good for us. Not great. Not bad. Just kinda good.

mwc -- REALLY good number for them. When there were no stakes and against both the American (with NY6 implications) and the SEC.
Looks like it came at the expense of the Sun Belt.

I look forward to hearing from the Fact Free FunBelt Fans about their going head-to-head with the SWAC on a better network and losing

(12-06-2022 04:54 PM)MeepMeep Wrote:  Yea, they are waiting for you to go over there and put ‘em out of their misery.

I saw that.

Same post someone FINALLY acknowledged being behind the SWAC.

IF anyone heads over there, let everyone know (that was the poster anxious for my arrival) that I posted the numbers here four hours before their thread, but it's Army Week so I ain't got time for SWAC/SunBelt level numbers.

(12-06-2022 05:11 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 04:54 PM)MeepMeep Wrote:  Yea, they are waiting for you to go over there and put ‘em out of their misery.

I saw that.

Same post someone FINALLY acknowledged being behind the SWAC.

IF anyone heads over there, let everyone know (that was the poster anxious for my arrival) that I posted the numbers here four hours before their thread, but it's Army Week so I ain't got time for SWAC/SunBelt level numbers.

I read somewhere today that College Gameday wasn’t going to Army/Navy after 7 years in a row. Wonder what World Cup match will be happening that day.

EDIT: England vs France. Yikes.

(12-06-2022 11:04 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Conference Championship Weekend Viewership:

SEC 10,894,000
B10 10,699,000
B12 9,413,000
P12 5,967,000
ACC 3,467,000
American 2,695,000
mwc 1,938,000
MAC 721,000
SWAC 391,000
Sun Belt 332,000


Initial analysis - As expected for SEC/B10. P12 a record for them -- it was on its own and a playoff play-in game for USC (narrator - they did not).
I think that THAT result meant more eyeballs for TCU-KState (narrator GO WILDCATS!) in addition to not having competition.
I'll pull all the AAC CCG numbers in a minute...but that's good for us. Not great. Not bad. Just kinda good.

mwc -- REALLY good number for them. When there were no stakes and against both the American (with NY6 implications) and the SEC.
Looks like it came at the expense of the Sun Belt.

I look forward to hearing from the Fact Free FunBelt Fans about their going head-to-head with the SWAC on a better network and losing

Those are pretty good B 12 numbers considering neither Texas or Oklahoma were in the game.

(12-06-2022 05:33 PM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 11:04 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Conference Championship Weekend Viewership:

SEC 10,894,000
B10 10,699,000
B12 9,413,000
P12 5,967,000
ACC 3,467,000
American 2,695,000
mwc 1,938,000
MAC 721,000
SWAC 391,000
Sun Belt 332,000


Initial analysis - As expected for SEC/B10. P12 a record for them -- it was on its own and a playoff play-in game for USC (narrator - they did not).
I think that THAT result meant more eyeballs for TCU-KState (narrator GO WILDCATS!) in addition to not having competition.
I'll pull all the AAC CCG numbers in a minute...but that's good for us. Not great. Not bad. Just kinda good.

mwc -- REALLY good number for them. When there were no stakes and against both the American (with NY6 implications) and the SEC.
Looks like it came at the expense of the Sun Belt.

I look forward to hearing from the Fact Free FunBelt Fans about their going head-to-head with the SWAC on a better network and losing

Those are pretty good B 12 numbers considering neither Texas or Oklahoma were in the game.

There was a reason the got $30+ million foe their new deal......

(12-06-2022 05:16 PM)MeepMeep Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 05:11 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 04:54 PM)MeepMeep Wrote:  Yea, they are waiting for you to go over there and put ‘em out of their misery.

I saw that.

Same post someone FINALLY acknowledged being behind the SWAC.

IF anyone heads over there, let everyone know (that was the poster anxious for my arrival) that I posted the numbers here four hours before their thread, but it's Army Week so I ain't got time for SWAC/SunBelt level numbers.

I read somewhere today that College Gameday wasn’t going to Army/Navy after 7 years in a row. Wonder what World Cup match will be happening that day.

EDIT: England vs France. Yikes.

In the COVID-addled 2020 season, Army-Navy kept its date (had to do it up at Sad Hogwarts) but had competition from other games: head-to-head UNC-Miami, Wisconsin-Iowa, Oklahoma State-Baylor; other timeslots LSU-UF, USC-UCLA, Alabama-Arkansas, Michigan State-Penn State.

We fell all the way to 4.91 million viewers and won the weekend.

I'm not concerned that real red-blooded Americans might forego America's Game to watch some frogs and pommies writhe around on Middle Eastern grass after someone breathes on them.

I'd like to see us back over 8 million, but we might be just short of that again.

There seems to be a divide on the Sun Belt forum between the CUSA transplants (who are saying that this is a problem and the conference just has to do better) and the SBC natives (who think it's unfair and bad luck).

(12-06-2022 05:33 PM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 11:04 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Conference Championship Weekend Viewership:

SEC 10,894,000
B10 10,699,000
B12 9,413,000
P12 5,967,000
ACC 3,467,000
American 2,695,000
mwc 1,938,000
MAC 721,000
SWAC 391,000
Sun Belt 332,000


Initial analysis - As expected for SEC/B10. P12 a record for them -- it was on its own and a playoff play-in game for USC (narrator - they did not).
I think that THAT result meant more eyeballs for TCU-KState (narrator GO WILDCATS!) in addition to not having competition.
I'll pull all the AAC CCG numbers in a minute...but that's good for us. Not great. Not bad. Just kinda good.

mwc -- REALLY good number for them. When there were no stakes and against both the American (with NY6 implications) and the SEC.
Looks like it came at the expense of the Sun Belt.

I look forward to hearing from the Fact Free FunBelt Fans about their going head-to-head with the SWAC on a better network and losing

Those are pretty good B 12 numbers considering neither Texas or Oklahoma were in the game.

Pretty good? They basically equaled P12 and ACC combined.

(12-06-2022 11:04 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Conference Championship Weekend Viewership:

SEC 10,894,000
B10 10,699,000
B12 9,413,000
P12 5,967,000
ACC 3,467,000
American 2,695,000
mwc 1,938,000
MAC 721,000
SWAC 391,000
Sun Belt 332,000


Initial analysis - As expected for SEC/B10. P12 a record for them -- it was on its own and a playoff play-in game for USC (narrator - they did not).
I think that THAT result meant more eyeballs for TCU-KState (narrator GO WILDCATS!) in addition to not having competition.
I'll pull all the AAC CCG numbers in a minute...but that's good for us. Not great. Not bad. Just kinda good.

mwc -- REALLY good number for them. When there were no stakes and against both the American (with NY6 implications) and the SEC.
Looks like it came at the expense of the Sun Belt.

I look forward to hearing from the Fact Free FunBelt Fans about their going head-to-head with the SWAC on a better network and losing

I brought up the thread where they were discussing whether they were going to get the ABC slot for their championship game at the expense of the AAC. I mentioned that they literally got beat by an FCS conference on a lessor channel at the same time slot last weekend. I asked if they still felt Disney was gonna give them that slot. Basically got a stern warning by their mod not to belittle them. Honestly, it was a valid question considering the topic of that thread and all the talk of them overtaking the AAC in everything........so pure speculation on fantasy facts are a allowed, but when time passes and solid facts do appear, you cannot bring them up because it is considered belittling or flaming......gotcha.

(12-07-2022 10:09 AM)otown Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 11:04 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Conference Championship Weekend Viewership:

SEC 10,894,000
B10 10,699,000
B12 9,413,000
P12 5,967,000
ACC 3,467,000
American 2,695,000
mwc 1,938,000
MAC 721,000
SWAC 391,000
Sun Belt 332,000


Initial analysis - As expected for SEC/B10. P12 a record for them -- it was on its own and a playoff play-in game for USC (narrator - they did not).
I think that THAT result meant more eyeballs for TCU-KState (narrator GO WILDCATS!) in addition to not having competition.
I'll pull all the AAC CCG numbers in a minute...but that's good for us. Not great. Not bad. Just kinda good.

mwc -- REALLY good number for them. When there were no stakes and against both the American (with NY6 implications) and the SEC.
Looks like it came at the expense of the Sun Belt.

I look forward to hearing from the Fact Free FunBelt Fans about their going head-to-head with the SWAC on a better network and losing

I brought up the thread where they were discussing whether they were going to get the ABC slot for their championship game at the expense of the AAC. I mentioned that they literally got beat by an FCS conference on a lessor channel at the same time slot last weekend. I asked if they still felt Disney was gonna give them that slot. Basically got a stern warning by their mod not to belittle them. Honestly, it was a valid question considering the topic of that thread and all the talk of them overtaking the AAC in everything........so pure speculation on fantasy facts are a allowed, but when time passes and solid facts do appear, you cannot bring them up because it is considered belittling or flaming......gotcha.

Yeah, I remember talking about that thread in the "Totem Pole" thread....oh, how we laughed and laughed...

It does seem like a legitimate question -- here is the 2022 CCG datapoint, so how do you foresee you get from today to this vision of surpassing the AAC on the field and in Disney's opinion? I guess they're still stinging a little.

I was starting to feel sorry for them. I almost went over to cheer them up:
Hey, guys, it isn't your LOWEST-viewed championship ever!
Hey, guys, the decline from last year was LESS THAN 25% !
Hey, guys, the SWAC won't always beat you - once Coach Prime is gone, you should leapfrog them!

Then they started yapping again and that feeling went away.

clt says lowly sunbelt fans aren't watching the World Cup

The next five years are going to be great.

(10-20-2022 09:59 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(10-20-2022 09:40 AM)shere khan Wrote:  P2

P2
M3
G5

P2
Pm3
Gm1
G4

(12-07-2022 03:44 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-07-2022 10:09 AM)otown Wrote:  

(12-06-2022 11:04 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Conference Championship Weekend Viewership:

SEC 10,894,000
B10 10,699,000
B12 9,413,000
P12 5,967,000
ACC 3,467,000
American 2,695,000
mwc 1,938,000
MAC 721,000
SWAC 391,000
Sun Belt 332,000


Initial analysis - As expected for SEC/B10. P12 a record for them -- it was on its own and a playoff play-in game for USC (narrator - they did not).
I think that THAT result meant more eyeballs for TCU-KState (narrator GO WILDCATS!) in addition to not having competition.
I'll pull all the AAC CCG numbers in a minute...but that's good for us. Not great. Not bad. Just kinda good.

mwc -- REALLY good number for them. When there were no stakes and against both the American (with NY6 implications) and the SEC.
Looks like it came at the expense of the Sun Belt.

I look forward to hearing from the Fact Free FunBelt Fans about their going head-to-head with the SWAC on a better network and losing

I brought up the thread where they were discussing whether they were going to get the ABC slot for their championship game at the expense of the AAC. I mentioned that they literally got beat by an FCS conference on a lessor channel at the same time slot last weekend. I asked if they still felt Disney was gonna give them that slot. Basically got a stern warning by their mod not to belittle them. Honestly, it was a valid question considering the topic of that thread and all the talk of them overtaking the AAC in everything........so pure speculation on fantasy facts are a allowed, but when time passes and solid facts do appear, you cannot bring them up because it is considered belittling or flaming......gotcha.

Yeah, I remember talking about that thread in the "Totem Pole" thread....oh, how we laughed and laughed...

It does seem like a legitimate question -- here is the 2022 CCG datapoint, so how do you foresee you get from today to this vision of surpassing the AAC on the field and in Disney's opinion? I guess they're still stinging a little.

I was starting to feel sorry for them. I almost went over to cheer them up:
Hey, guys, it isn't your LOWEST-viewed championship ever!
Hey, guys, the decline from last year was LESS THAN 25% !
Hey, guys, the SWAC won't always beat you - once Coach Prime is gone, you should leapfrog them!

Then they started yapping again and that feeling went away.

And now....

The "Brutal SBC CCG Viewership Numbers" thread has become a discussion of colored fields.