(07-23-2022 02:17 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Why the hell is the OP even a question?

Wake would be first up for whatever ACC/Magnolia league would be put together if the ACC fell apart.

Spit ballin', but a Conference of east coast P5 rejects could still be worth $20 million-ish in media rights. The basketball wouldn't be bad either and would command big time bball tourney sponsors. The snooty ACC leftovers could probably even get some football attention with an Army/Navy add.

Wake
BC
'Cuse
Pitt
Army
Navy
Temple
UConn
UMass
Tulane
USF


Get a little hold on each big east coast state/area

NY
Mass
Penn
DMV
NC
FL

No way to cal that ACC

(07-23-2022 11:15 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 10:36 AM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(07-21-2022 02:32 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  The way things are looking, the Deacs could be a FunBelt option. It would definitely give us a major global brand. Thoughts??

You don't take private schools, so CUSA should get first crack so they can be with Liberty, another private school. This also means Duke would be off limit to you, as well as Vanderbilt, Syracuse, and Boston College.

Lol. Yep…..none of those schools fit our MO, geographically, private -vs- public, etc. We just had to add to that list the rotten ethics, nothing but a diploma mill, and some other things, as to why we didn’t want LU in the SBC. In fact, that’s why no other conf except CICU wanted u in their conference. Lucky for you they were in a death spiral and had no other choice but to make a deal with the devil.

What you are saying about no Sun Belt schools wanting Liberty is laughably 100% untrue. Majority at least of the better teams did want them.

(07-23-2022 03:41 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 11:15 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 10:36 AM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(07-21-2022 02:32 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  The way things are looking, the Deacs could be a FunBelt option. It would definitely give us a major global brand. Thoughts??

You don't take private schools, so CUSA should get first crack so they can be with Liberty, another private school. This also means Duke would be off limit to you, as well as Vanderbilt, Syracuse, and Boston College.

Lol. Yep…..none of those schools fit our MO, geographically, private -vs- public, etc. We just had to add to that list the rotten ethics, nothing but a diploma mill, and some other things, as to why we didn’t want LU in the SBC. In fact, that’s why no other conf except CICU wanted u in their conference. Lucky for you they were in a death spiral and had no other choice but to make a deal with the devil.

What you are saying about no Sun Belt schools wanting Liberty is laughably 100% untrue. Majority at least of the better teams did want them.

You’re the one that’s being silly. Just stop with your claims that are wholly the product of your imagination.

I'd give the Norfolk State game at home for a game at Liberty if Liberty could offer JMU a decent number of tickets

(07-23-2022 02:25 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 02:17 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Why the hell is the OP even a question?

Wake would be first up for whatever ACC/Magnolia league would be put together if the ACC fell apart.

Spit ballin', but a Conference of east coast P5 rejects could still be worth $20 million-ish in media rights. The basketball wouldn't be bad either and would command big time bball tourney sponsors. The snooty ACC leftovers could probably even get some football attention with an Army/Navy add.

Wake
BC
'Cuse
Pitt
Army
Navy
Temple
UConn
UMass
Tulane
USF


Get a little hold on each big east coast state/area

NY
Mass
Penn
DMV
NC
FL

IMO ACC remnants would not look beyond the Atlantic Coast for replacements. Army and Navy would be great additions, if the academy schools wanted to join. USF would not fit in with (as you shared the “snooty”) ACC profile.

As I shared in another thread UMass, UConn and Temple would be almost automatic adds. I had also suggested Delaware fits the ACC profile, but so does W&M or Richmond. Those last three would be FCS call-ups, but their academics are great, and the schools have the budgets and facilities to compete in all sports.

I could see something like:

Duke
Wake
Syracuse
Boston College
GT
Army
Navy
Temple
UMass
UConn
Richmond
Delaware

(07-23-2022 03:41 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 11:15 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 10:36 AM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(07-21-2022 02:32 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  The way things are looking, the Deacs could be a FunBelt option. It would definitely give us a major global brand. Thoughts??

You don't take private schools, so CUSA should get first crack so they can be with Liberty, another private school. This also means Duke would be off limit to you, as well as Vanderbilt, Syracuse, and Boston College.

Lol. Yep…..none of those schools fit our MO, geographically, private -vs- public, etc. We just had to add to that list the rotten ethics, nothing but a diploma mill, and some other things, as to why we didn’t want LU in the SBC. In fact, that’s why no other conf except CICU wanted u in their conference. Lucky for you they were in a death spiral and had no other choice but to make a deal with the devil.

What you are saying about no Sun Belt schools wanting Liberty is laughably 100% untrue. Majority at least of the better teams did want them.

There are like 3 better teams in the original voting SBC prior to expansion. So 2 out of 3 wanted you. So 2 Sunbelt teams wanted you. That's laughably 100% untrue? That's what I call very close to true by your statement.

Mentioning you is not the same things as wanting you. If they hadn't even mentioned Liberty and discussed it I would be disappointed that they didn't do their diligence. All options should have been weighed. And you were. And you were found wanting, not wanted. This nonsense that Liberty was everyone's choice but we let you slip away to CUSA is ridiculous. If you were wanted here by at least 5 members and the influential members, by your statement, then you would be in the Sunbelt. Now bugger off.

(07-23-2022 03:41 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 11:15 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 10:36 AM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(07-21-2022 02:32 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  The way things are looking, the Deacs could be a FunBelt option. It would definitely give us a major global brand. Thoughts??

You don't take private schools, so CUSA should get first crack so they can be with Liberty, another private school. This also means Duke would be off limit to you, as well as Vanderbilt, Syracuse, and Boston College.

Lol. Yep…..none of those schools fit our MO, geographically, private -vs- public, etc. We just had to add to that list the rotten ethics, nothing but a diploma mill, and some other things, as to why we didn’t want LU in the SBC. In fact, that’s why no other conf except CICU wanted u in their conference. Lucky for you they were in a death spiral and had no other choice but to make a deal with the devil.

What you are saying about no Sun Belt schools wanting Liberty is laughably 100% untrue. Majority at least of the better teams did want them.

Obviously not, because if you were wanted, you'd be in the Sun Belt. Now, you are just on ESBeIn!

(07-23-2022 05:19 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 03:41 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 11:15 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 10:36 AM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(07-21-2022 02:32 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  The way things are looking, the Deacs could be a FunBelt option. It would definitely give us a major global brand. Thoughts??

You don't take private schools, so CUSA should get first crack so they can be with Liberty, another private school. This also means Duke would be off limit to you, as well as Vanderbilt, Syracuse, and Boston College.

Lol. Yep…..none of those schools fit our MO, geographically, private -vs- public, etc. We just had to add to that list the rotten ethics, nothing but a diploma mill, and some other things, as to why we didn’t want LU in the SBC. In fact, that’s why no other conf except CICU wanted u in their conference. Lucky for you they were in a death spiral and had no other choice but to make a deal with the devil.

What you are saying about no Sun Belt schools wanting Liberty is laughably 100% untrue. Majority at least of the better teams did want them.

Obviously not, because if you were wanted, you'd be in the Sun Belt. Now, you are just on ESBeIn!

That's not how it works. Most all the teams have to agree to take you and that wasn't the case. That doesn't mean they weren't wanted by some teams.

(07-23-2022 06:26 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 05:19 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 03:41 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 11:15 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 10:36 AM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  You don't take private schools, so CUSA should get first crack so they can be with Liberty, another private school. This also means Duke would be off limit to you, as well as Vanderbilt, Syracuse, and Boston College.

Lol. Yep…..none of those schools fit our MO, geographically, private -vs- public, etc. We just had to add to that list the rotten ethics, nothing but a diploma mill, and some other things, as to why we didn’t want LU in the SBC. In fact, that’s why no other conf except CICU wanted u in their conference. Lucky for you they were in a death spiral and had no other choice but to make a deal with the devil.

What you are saying about no Sun Belt schools wanting Liberty is laughably 100% untrue. Majority at least of the better teams did want them.

Obviously not, because if you were wanted, you'd be in the Sun Belt. Now, you are just on ESBeIn!

That's not how it works. Most all the teams have to agree to take you and that wasn't the case. That doesn't mean they weren't wanted by some teams.

Dude, just stop it. Go sell your crazy shite somewhere else where someone may be stupid/ignorant enough to buy what you are trying to sell.

(07-23-2022 05:16 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 02:25 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 02:17 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Why the hell is the OP even a question?

Wake would be first up for whatever ACC/Magnolia league would be put together if the ACC fell apart.

Spit ballin', but a Conference of east coast P5 rejects could still be worth $20 million-ish in media rights. The basketball wouldn't be bad either and would command big time bball tourney sponsors. The snooty ACC leftovers could probably even get some football attention with an Army/Navy add.

Wake
BC
'Cuse
Pitt
Army
Navy
Temple
UConn
UMass
Tulane
USF


Get a little hold on each big east coast state/area

NY
Mass
Penn
DMV
NC
FL

IMO ACC remnants would not look beyond the Atlantic Coast for replacements. Army and Navy would be great additions, if the academy schools wanted to join. USF would not fit in with (as you shared the “snooty”) ACC profile.

As I shared in another thread UMass, UConn and Temple would be almost automatic adds. I had also suggested Delaware fits the ACC profile, but so does W&M or Richmond. Those last three would be FCS call-ups, but their academics are great, and the schools have the budgets and facilities to compete in all sports.

I could see something like:

Duke
Wake
Syracuse
Boston College
GT
Army
Navy
Temple
UMass
UConn
Richmond
Delaware

I thought RU was moving to the ODAC

(07-23-2022 07:03 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 05:16 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 02:25 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 02:17 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Why the hell is the OP even a question?

Wake would be first up for whatever ACC/Magnolia league would be put together if the ACC fell apart.

Spit ballin', but a Conference of east coast P5 rejects could still be worth $20 million-ish in media rights. The basketball wouldn't be bad either and would command big time bball tourney sponsors. The snooty ACC leftovers could probably even get some football attention with an Army/Navy add.

Wake
BC
'Cuse
Pitt
Army
Navy
Temple
UConn
UMass
Tulane
USF


Get a little hold on each big east coast state/area

NY
Mass
Penn
DMV
NC
FL

IMO ACC remnants would not look beyond the Atlantic Coast for replacements. Army and Navy would be great additions, if the academy schools wanted to join. USF would not fit in with (as you shared the “snooty”) ACC profile.

As I shared in another thread UMass, UConn and Temple would be almost automatic adds. I had also suggested Delaware fits the ACC profile, but so does W&M or Richmond. Those last three would be FCS call-ups, but their academics are great, and the schools have the budgets and facilities to compete in all sports.

I could see something like:

Duke
Wake
Syracuse
Boston College
GT
Army
Navy
Temple
UMass
UConn
Richmond
Delaware

I thought RU was moving to the ODAC

(07-23-2022 07:00 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 06:26 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 05:19 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 03:41 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  What you are saying about no Sun Belt schools wanting Liberty is laughably 100% untrue. Majority at least of the better teams did want them.

Obviously not, because if you were wanted, you'd be in the Sun Belt. Now, you are just on ESBeIn!

That's not how it works. Most all the teams have to agree to take you and that wasn't the case. That doesn't mean they weren't wanted by some teams.

Dude, just stop it. Go sell your crazy shite somewhere else where someone may be stupid/ignorant enough to buy what you are trying to sell.

The story makes little sense on a number of levels. First off, since when does someone inquiring about a conference application get a list of who was on board and who wasn't along with their yea or nay? For the sake of argument, we could assume LU had somebody on their side as an assumed "yes," but if that school then reported back to LU specifying who did not lend support, that's a pretty serious breech of confidence regarding internal matters. Secondly, the notion that the line would fall along who's successful right now and who's not is just silly. Nobody in any conference ever has made a decision on a potential new addition based upon their own ability to compete with someone who is ostensibly an asset. The point of expansion is to add value and raise the collective bar.

As a poster alluded to in another thread, somebody at LU decided to sell an un-provable "too many schools there were afraid of us" narrative in place of the simpler (and obviously factual since they're not here) "not enough schools there wanted us" narrative as a form of consolation. I mean, hey, we all know it can't be Liberty being unattractive in some way or even just a bad fit for any reason. It's got to be everybody else's unreasonableness.

(07-23-2022 03:41 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 11:15 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 10:36 AM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(07-21-2022 02:32 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  The way things are looking, the Deacs could be a FunBelt option. It would definitely give us a major global brand. Thoughts??

You don't take private schools, so CUSA should get first crack so they can be with Liberty, another private school. This also means Duke would be off limit to you, as well as Vanderbilt, Syracuse, and Boston College.

Lol. Yep…..none of those schools fit our MO, geographically, private -vs- public, etc. We just had to add to that list the rotten ethics, nothing but a diploma mill, and some other things, as to why we didn’t want LU in the SBC. In fact, that’s why no other conf except CICU wanted u in their conference. Lucky for you they were in a death spiral and had no other choice but to make a deal with the devil.

What you are saying about no Sun Belt schools wanting Liberty is laughably 100% untrue. Majority at least of the better teams did want them.

C'mon, Bubba, get real. Name one Sun Belt school (before last realignment) that wanted Liberty. You are terribly mistaken about what you are spreading. Liberty was almost a verboten word on this message board before the last 4 newbies joined in. Don't kid yourself and act as if anyone in the Sun Belt Conference were in the least bit interested.

(07-23-2022 03:41 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 11:15 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 10:36 AM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(07-21-2022 02:32 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  The way things are looking, the Deacs could be a FunBelt option. It would definitely give us a major global brand. Thoughts??

You don't take private schools, so CUSA should get first crack so they can be with Liberty, another private school. This also means Duke would be off limit to you, as well as Vanderbilt, Syracuse, and Boston College.

Lol. Yep…..none of those schools fit our MO, geographically, private -vs- public, etc. We just had to add to that list the rotten ethics, nothing but a diploma mill, and some other things, as to why we didn’t want LU in the SBC. In fact, that’s why no other conf except CICU wanted u in their conference. Lucky for you they were in a death spiral and had no other choice but to make a deal with the devil.

What you are saying about no Sun Belt schools wanting Liberty is laughably 100% untrue. Majority at least of the better teams did want them.

(07-23-2022 06:26 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 05:19 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 03:41 PM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 11:15 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 10:36 AM)sstaedtler88 Wrote:  You don't take private schools, so CUSA should get first crack so they can be with Liberty, another private school. This also means Duke would be off limit to you, as well as Vanderbilt, Syracuse, and Boston College.

Lol. Yep…..none of those schools fit our MO, geographically, private -vs- public, etc. We just had to add to that list the rotten ethics, nothing but a diploma mill, and some other things, as to why we didn’t want LU in the SBC. In fact, that’s why no other conf except CICU wanted u in their conference. Lucky for you they were in a death spiral and had no other choice but to make a deal with the devil.

What you are saying about no Sun Belt schools wanting Liberty is laughably 100% untrue. Majority at least of the better teams did want them.

Obviously not, because if you were wanted, you'd be in the Sun Belt. Now, you are just on ESBeIn!

That's not how it works. Most all the teams have to agree to take you and that wasn't the case. That doesn't mean they weren't wanted by some teams.

Yes, that is exactly how it works. 10 voting members. 2/3 vote needed. So that’s 7 schools. YOU WERENT WANTED l!

CUSA was desperate or they wouldn’t even be there.

(07-23-2022 07:03 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 05:16 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 02:25 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 02:17 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Why the hell is the OP even a question?

Wake would be first up for whatever ACC/Magnolia league would be put together if the ACC fell apart.

Spit ballin', but a Conference of east coast P5 rejects could still be worth $20 million-ish in media rights. The basketball wouldn't be bad either and would command big time bball tourney sponsors. The snooty ACC leftovers could probably even get some football attention with an Army/Navy add.

Wake
BC
'Cuse
Pitt
Army
Navy
Temple
UConn
UMass
Tulane
USF


Get a little hold on each big east coast state/area

NY
Mass
Penn
DMV
NC
FL

IMO ACC remnants would not look beyond the Atlantic Coast for replacements. Army and Navy would be great additions, if the academy schools wanted to join. USF would not fit in with (as you shared the “snooty”) ACC profile.

As I shared in another thread UMass, UConn and Temple would be almost automatic adds. I had also suggested Delaware fits the ACC profile, but so does W&M or Richmond. Those last three would be FCS call-ups, but their academics are great, and the schools have the budgets and facilities to compete in all sports.

I could see something like:

Duke
Wake
Syracuse
Boston College
GT
Army
Navy
Temple
UMass
UConn
Richmond
Delaware

I thought RU was moving to the ODAC

If ODAC refuses, Patriot is plan B. Lots of fan buzz about RU and WM to patriot. Its like Ivy-light and makes them feel good. Plus they might win again.

If Delaware gets their crap together in 5 years, they might move, though I see them more likely in the MAC. The AD put out a big letter about why SBC is not a good fit for them, which ought to end any discussion of adding them.

(07-28-2022 07:27 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 07:03 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 05:16 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 02:25 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 02:17 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Why the hell is the OP even a question?

Wake would be first up for whatever ACC/Magnolia league would be put together if the ACC fell apart.

Spit ballin', but a Conference of east coast P5 rejects could still be worth $20 million-ish in media rights. The basketball wouldn't be bad either and would command big time bball tourney sponsors. The snooty ACC leftovers could probably even get some football attention with an Army/Navy add.

Wake
BC
'Cuse
Pitt
Army
Navy
Temple
UConn
UMass
Tulane
USF


Get a little hold on each big east coast state/area

NY
Mass
Penn
DMV
NC
FL

IMO ACC remnants would not look beyond the Atlantic Coast for replacements. Army and Navy would be great additions, if the academy schools wanted to join. USF would not fit in with (as you shared the “snooty”) ACC profile.

As I shared in another thread UMass, UConn and Temple would be almost automatic adds. I had also suggested Delaware fits the ACC profile, but so does W&M or Richmond. Those last three would be FCS call-ups, but their academics are great, and the schools have the budgets and facilities to compete in all sports.

I could see something like:

Duke
Wake
Syracuse
Boston College
GT
Army
Navy
Temple
UMass
UConn
Richmond
Delaware

I thought RU was moving to the ODAC

If ODAC refuses, Patriot is plan B. Lots of fan buzz about RU and WM to patriot. Its like Ivy-light and makes them feel good. Plus they might win again.

If Delaware gets their crap together in 5 years, they might move, though I see them more likely in the MAC. The AD put out a big letter about why SBC is not a good fit for them, which ought to end any discussion of adding them.

HARD PASS on the Blue Hens. We need to just sit n=back and bide our time for now. Teams will eventually approach us. FBS teams...

(07-28-2022 07:38 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(07-28-2022 07:27 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 07:03 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 05:16 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  

(07-23-2022 02:25 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Spit ballin', but a Conference of east coast P5 rejects could still be worth $20 million-ish in media rights. The basketball wouldn't be bad either and would command big time bball tourney sponsors. The snooty ACC leftovers could probably even get some football attention with an Army/Navy add.

Wake
BC
'Cuse
Pitt
Army
Navy
Temple
UConn
UMass
Tulane
USF


Get a little hold on each big east coast state/area

NY
Mass
Penn
DMV
NC
FL

IMO ACC remnants would not look beyond the Atlantic Coast for replacements. Army and Navy would be great additions, if the academy schools wanted to join. USF would not fit in with (as you shared the “snooty”) ACC profile.

As I shared in another thread UMass, UConn and Temple would be almost automatic adds. I had also suggested Delaware fits the ACC profile, but so does W&M or Richmond. Those last three would be FCS call-ups, but their academics are great, and the schools have the budgets and facilities to compete in all sports.

I could see something like:

Duke
Wake
Syracuse
Boston College
GT
Army
Navy
Temple
UMass
UConn
Richmond
Delaware

I thought RU was moving to the ODAC

If ODAC refuses, Patriot is plan B. Lots of fan buzz about RU and WM to patriot. Its like Ivy-light and makes them feel good. Plus they might win again.

If Delaware gets their crap together in 5 years, they might move, though I see them more likely in the MAC. The AD put out a big letter about why SBC is not a good fit for them, which ought to end any discussion of adding them.

HARD PASS on the Blue Hens. We need to just sit n=back and bide our time for now. Teams will eventually approach us. FBS teams...

I'll harken back to a post where someone forgot about The Herd the other day and say that we should be the farthest team North...nothing above us (checks the map for Memphis)