Eagle's Cliff
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RE: Future SBC baseball tournaments
Bad part about neutral sites is probably drawing just parents and real fanatics that take off work to go. Fans might pile in on the weekend. I like the idea of rotating between Montgomery and Asheville if that's even doable. Chattanooga might make a nice location too. Texas State is flying either way. Not sure how Coastal and our new northern mates would travel
(This post was last modified: 05-18-2022 06:15 AM by Eagle's Cliff.)
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RE: Future SBC baseball tournaments
(05-18-2022 06:11 AM)Eagles Cliff Wrote: Bad part about neutral sites is probably drawing just parents and real fanatics that take off work to go. Fans might pile in on the weekend. I like the idea of rotating between Montgomery and Asheville if that's even doable. Chattanooga might make a nice location too. Texas State is flying either way. Not sure how Coastal and our new northern mates would travel
Another excuse to find myself in Asheville? Why I mean, if you must twist my arm I suppose.
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CoastalAlum2011
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RE: Future SBC baseball tournaments
(05-18-2022 06:37 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: (05-18-2022 06:11 AM)Eagles Cliff Wrote: Bad part about neutral sites is probably drawing just parents and real fanatics that take off work to go. Fans might pile in on the weekend. I like the idea of rotating between Montgomery and Asheville if that's even doable. Chattanooga might make a nice location too. Texas State is flying either way. Not sure how Coastal and our new northern mates would travel
Another excuse to find myself in Asheville? Why I mean, if you must twist my arm I suppose.
Huh? Asheville sucks.
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RE: Future SBC baseball tournaments
(05-18-2022 06:58 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote: (05-18-2022 06:37 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: (05-18-2022 06:11 AM)Eagles Cliff Wrote: Bad part about neutral sites is probably drawing just parents and real fanatics that take off work to go. Fans might pile in on the weekend. I like the idea of rotating between Montgomery and Asheville if that's even doable. Chattanooga might make a nice location too. Texas State is flying either way. Not sure how Coastal and our new northern mates would travel
Another excuse to find myself in Asheville? Why I mean, if you must twist my arm I suppose.
Huh? Asheville sucks.
Lot of your new and old division mates are fond of Asheville. SoCon basketball was there for seems like decades. Lots of fans traveled there and we always had a great time. It's charming. But I guess we could go to "the beach" and reenact some GTA V.
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CoastalAlum2011
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RE: Future SBC baseball tournaments
(05-18-2022 07:12 AM)MUther Wrote: (05-18-2022 06:58 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote: (05-18-2022 06:37 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: (05-18-2022 06:11 AM)Eagles Cliff Wrote: Bad part about neutral sites is probably drawing just parents and real fanatics that take off work to go. Fans might pile in on the weekend. I like the idea of rotating between Montgomery and Asheville if that's even doable. Chattanooga might make a nice location too. Texas State is flying either way. Not sure how Coastal and our new northern mates would travel
Another excuse to find myself in Asheville? Why I mean, if you must twist my arm I suppose.
Huh? Asheville sucks.
Lot of your new and old division mates are fond of Asheville. SoCon basketball was there for seems like decades. Lots of fans traveled there and we always had a great time. It's charming. But I guess we could go to "the beach" and reenact some GTA V.
You mean “the beach” where half of your alumni base either live, have a vacation home in, or vacation at every year?
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RE: Future SBC baseball tournaments
(05-18-2022 06:58 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote: (05-18-2022 06:37 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: (05-18-2022 06:11 AM)Eagles Cliff Wrote: Bad part about neutral sites is probably drawing just parents and real fanatics that take off work to go. Fans might pile in on the weekend. I like the idea of rotating between Montgomery and Asheville if that's even doable. Chattanooga might make a nice location too. Texas State is flying either way. Not sure how Coastal and our new northern mates would travel
Another excuse to find myself in Asheville? Why I mean, if you must twist my arm I suppose.
Huh? Asheville sucks.
No offense my man but when it comes to vacation towns I'd rather find myself in Asheville than Myrtle, especially in the spring (around when the baseball tournament would be). Plenty of good breweries and good hiking, sounds like a good time for me.
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05-18-2022 07:30 AM |
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CoastalAlum2011
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RE: Future SBC baseball tournaments
I don’t support any neutral site for any sports’ conference tournament.
The ACC and SEC can pull it off because of a massive walmart fan base. The SBC, nor any other G5 really can.
Reward the regular season champ with home field / court advantage and watch attendance soar.
People say that gives it a “small time” feel to host on campus. I say that there is no “smaller” feel than having a tournament at a neutral site where less than 1k people attend.
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05-18-2022 08:22 AM |
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SkullyMaroo
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RE: Future SBC baseball tournaments
(05-18-2022 08:22 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote: I don’t support any neutral site for any sports’ conference tournament.
The ACC and SEC can pull it off because of a massive walmart fan base. The SBC, nor any other G5 really can.
Reward the regular season champ with home field / court advantage and watch attendance soar.
People say that gives it a “small time” feel to host on campus. I say that there is no “smaller” feel than having a tournament at a neutral site where less than 1k people attend.
Sometimes the regular season winner isn’t known until the last series of the year. Logistically speaking that’s a nightmare for an AD to plan for.
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RE: Future SBC baseball tournaments
(05-18-2022 06:58 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote: (05-18-2022 06:37 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote: (05-18-2022 06:11 AM)Eagles Cliff Wrote: Bad part about neutral sites is probably drawing just parents and real fanatics that take off work to go. Fans might pile in on the weekend. I like the idea of rotating between Montgomery and Asheville if that's even doable. Chattanooga might make a nice location too. Texas State is flying either way. Not sure how Coastal and our new northern mates would travel
Another excuse to find myself in Asheville? Why I mean, if you must twist my arm I suppose.
Huh? Asheville sucks.
No way man...it's the Paris of the South...women with hair under their arms and all.
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05-18-2022 12:27 PM |
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RE: Future SBC baseball tournaments
(05-18-2022 09:12 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: (05-18-2022 08:22 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote: I don’t support any neutral site for any sports’ conference tournament.
The ACC and SEC can pull it off because of a massive walmart fan base. The SBC, nor any other G5 really can.
Reward the regular season champ with home field / court advantage and watch attendance soar.
People say that gives it a “small time” feel to host on campus. I say that there is no “smaller” feel than having a tournament at a neutral site where less than 1k people attend.
Sometimes the regular season winner isn’t known until the last series of the year. Logistically speaking that’s a nightmare for an AD to plan for.
An AD should be planning for it if they’re in contention to win the regular season title.
It’s possible to do. Not necessarily a walk in the park, but it isn’t an impossible task. And the upside to making it happen is worth it.
Just my opinion.
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05-18-2022 12:39 PM |
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RE: Future SBC baseball tournaments
How many teams go to the Sun Belt Baseball Tourney? Will that change next season?
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05-18-2022 12:40 PM |
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RE: Future SBC baseball tournaments
Instead of Asheville, how about we go 1 hour south to Greenville, SC? It's like Asheville minus the grunge and a much better ballpark.
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05-18-2022 01:00 PM |
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RE: Future SBC baseball tournaments
(05-18-2022 01:00 PM)JTApps1 Wrote: Instead of Asheville, how about we go 1 hour south to Greenville, SC? It's like Asheville minus the grunge and a much better ballpark.
While like I said, I’d much rather it be on the campus of the regular season champ, if we have to do a neutral site, THIS is the answer. Agreed 100%.
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05-18-2022 01:02 PM |
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RE: Future SBC baseball tournaments
There's a ton of minor league parks that can be used.. Maybe one year find one on the east side of the conference and the next season find one on the west side.
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RE: Future SBC baseball tournaments
(05-18-2022 12:39 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote: (05-18-2022 09:12 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: (05-18-2022 08:22 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote: I don’t support any neutral site for any sports’ conference tournament.
The ACC and SEC can pull it off because of a massive walmart fan base. The SBC, nor any other G5 really can.
Reward the regular season champ with home field / court advantage and watch attendance soar.
People say that gives it a “small time” feel to host on campus. I say that there is no “smaller” feel than having a tournament at a neutral site where less than 1k people attend.
Sometimes the regular season winner isn’t known until the last series of the year. Logistically speaking that’s a nightmare for an AD to plan for.
An AD should be planning for it if they’re in contention to win the regular season title.
It’s possible to do. Not necessarily a walk in the park, but it isn’t an impossible task. And the upside to making it happen is worth it.
Just my opinion.
Not to be argumentative at all, but look at this year's CUSA tournament. Even with our announcement in October that we would be leaving for the SBC (before we announced leaving early) many CUSA programs and fans wanted the tournament moved from Hattiesburg to anywhere else. The reason it wasn't moved is because the logistics of hosting eight baseball programs over a week for the tournament are hard to shift without a lot of lead time. USM has been organizing this tournament for over a year. CUSA wanted to move it but couldn't organize in time to shift it away, even with nearly nine months' notice. I agree with you in concept, but in reality that's a hard thing to pull off.
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RE: Future SBC baseball tournaments
(05-18-2022 01:30 PM)FairwayEagle Wrote: (05-18-2022 12:39 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote: (05-18-2022 09:12 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: (05-18-2022 08:22 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote: I don’t support any neutral site for any sports’ conference tournament.
The ACC and SEC can pull it off because of a massive walmart fan base. The SBC, nor any other G5 really can.
Reward the regular season champ with home field / court advantage and watch attendance soar.
People say that gives it a “small time” feel to host on campus. I say that there is no “smaller” feel than having a tournament at a neutral site where less than 1k people attend.
Sometimes the regular season winner isn’t known until the last series of the year. Logistically speaking that’s a nightmare for an AD to plan for.
An AD should be planning for it if they’re in contention to win the regular season title.
It’s possible to do. Not necessarily a walk in the park, but it isn’t an impossible task. And the upside to making it happen is worth it.
Just my opinion.
Not to be argumentative at all, but look at this year's CUSA tournament. Even with our announcement in October that we would be leaving for the SBC (before we announced leaving early) many CUSA programs and fans wanted the tournament moved from Hattiesburg to anywhere else. The reason it wasn't moved is because the logistics of hosting eight baseball programs over a week for the tournament are hard to shift without a lot of lead time. USM has been organizing this tournament for over a year. CUSA wanted to move it but couldn't organize in time to shift it away, even with nearly nine months' notice. I agree with you in concept, but in reality that's a hard thing to pull off.
Exactly.
Without knowing a ton about what all it takes, I imagine besides making sure your park is ready for the influx and parking is situated, there's also the task of blocking out of hotels. It's done for bowl games and I imagine the same is done for tournaments and local hotels have to be prepared for an influx of fans. You don't want fans possibly staying in shady hotels on the shady side of town.
I could be wrong.
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RE: Future SBC baseball tournaments
(05-18-2022 12:39 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote: (05-18-2022 09:12 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: (05-18-2022 08:22 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote: I don’t support any neutral site for any sports’ conference tournament.
The ACC and SEC can pull it off because of a massive walmart fan base. The SBC, nor any other G5 really can.
Reward the regular season champ with home field / court advantage and watch attendance soar.
People say that gives it a “small time” feel to host on campus. I say that there is no “smaller” feel than having a tournament at a neutral site where less than 1k people attend.
Sometimes the regular season winner isn’t known until the last series of the year. Logistically speaking that’s a nightmare for an AD to plan for.
An AD should be planning for it if they’re in contention to win the regular season title.
It’s possible to do. Not necessarily a walk in the park, but it isn’t an impossible task. And the upside to making it happen is worth it.
Just my opinion.
If the league isn’t decided until the final weekend, you would have 3 days to book flights and hotels to house 9 baseball teams and support staff, find umpires and all the people required to run a tournament. You would almost guarantee no fans except the home team would be there. It’s certainly not practical and basically impossible. It’s either neutral site or you bid to host way in advance. Also given that baseball plays 3 games series, you could have 3-4-5 teams all trying to plan to host the tournament and arrange their travel plans for the other 3-4 possible locations. Won’t work.
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RE: Future SBC baseball tournaments
(05-18-2022 01:30 PM)FairwayEagle Wrote: CUSA wanted to move it but couldn't organize in time
Imagine that.
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RE: Future SBC baseball tournaments
(05-18-2022 02:37 PM)HarborPointe Wrote: (05-18-2022 01:30 PM)FairwayEagle Wrote: CUSA wanted to move it but couldn't organize in time
Imagine that.
You're not insinuating they couldn't organize an event in which two or more parties are engaged in consensual activities of an adult nature in an establishment where you could purchase such services are you?
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RE: Future SBC baseball tournaments
(05-18-2022 02:37 PM)HarborPointe Wrote: (05-18-2022 01:30 PM)FairwayEagle Wrote: CUSA wanted to move it but couldn't organize in time
Imagine that.
They had the right to reorganize the tournament, but they didn't have the ability.
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